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No more discussing; let's just get right to it-

Game of the Year

Nominees

  • Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
  • The Last Of Us
  • Gran Turismo 6
  • Bioshock Infinite
  • Grand Theft Auto V
  • Tomb Raider

Winner: The Last Of Us

Okay, so we probably didn't surprise you this time. But it's a testament to the greatness of The Last Of Us that it still won relatively easily, despite the likes of Bioshock Infinite and Grand Theft Auto V. From start to finish, the gripping, desperate, post-apocalyptic adventure kept us playing, through awful yet necessary psychological adaptations and transformations. At no point did we feel taken out of the experience; the pacing was nigh-on flawless, the third-person action had weight but remained immaculately responsive, the sense of urgency was incredible, and the story and characters put the bow on this amazing package.

It's also worth noting that TLoU was a very important game in a number of ways. Firstly, the combination of standard third-person action and a survival/horror mechanic was unique and intoxicating. It pressured us to be vigilant but above all else, it kept us on edge. That's precisely what Joel and Ellie would've felt, right? Constant pressure to survive. Secondly, as we noted earlier with Ellie winning Best Character, gaming really needed a female role that was identifiable, honorable, sympathetic, but above all else, realistic. When we look back in coming years, I'm sure we'll look to Ashley Johnson's performance and Naughty Dog's character creation as revolutionary for the industry.

Also, don't forget about Bill, the character GLAAD just honored as one of the "most intriguing new LGBT characters in 2013." It's yet another reason to respect and honor Naughty Dog's tremendous achievement. It had its flaws; the AI could be questionable and the story was somewhat predictable but other than that, this was a stunning production. Drop-dead visuals, convincing and professional acting, challenging and emotional gameplay, and a singularly compelling environment; this one had it all. In fact, TLoU felt "next-gen" before the new generation even got here. And given the lackluster PS4 and Xbox One launches, TLoU seems even more remarkable.

When we sit, perched on the edges of our seats, anxiously anticipating the next turn of events, we're taking part in a memorable virtual adventure. The Last Of Us gripped us faster, harder and more relentlessly than any other game in 2013 and as such, it's our Game of the Year winner. Well, couple that with all the aforementioned reasons. ;)

Happy New Year to everyone and here's to a great 2014!

1/2/2014 PSXE Staff

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Comments (178 posts)

ethird1
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 8:08:31 PM
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The Last of Us is the single most overrated game of this generation. Most people played it one time and quit.

Dragon's Crown is 10 times the game and 100 times more fun and has 1000 times the replayability.

End of line.

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paulinacio
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 8:22:02 PM

lol I hope that was sarcasm!! Just because a game wasn't your kinda of game doesn't mean it is instantly a "overrated game". I think GTAV was a overrated game even tho I love it.. I felt let down in many areas of the game whereas with TLOU it was PHENOMENAL all the way thru

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rogers71
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 8:42:28 PM

Thank you for that. I haven't laughed that hard in years. I think I pulled a muscle. Woooooo!!!! Wait, you weren't being serious I hope. Awwww, who cares. That's stupidly funny. Thanks again. Way to kick off the year.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 8:54:23 PM

Please ignore this. Most should know by know that he's just an ass.

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Shams
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 9:52:19 PM

Ben, arguing for Dragon's Crown as GOTY over TLOU sounds as asinine as arguing for TLOU's visuals and "clarity" over the visually best title of next gen, KZ:SF. Even AC:BF (next gen) beats out TLOU. Even Uncharted 3 (granted not 2013) beats out TLOU.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 10:21:07 PM

Shams: The Last Of Us did things on an artistic and design level that Shadow Fall absolutely did not. Only in terms of sheer detail does SF win; there are about a half-dozen other elements involved when determining best overall graphics.

The only thing that's "asinine" is thinking that visuals are only about how sharp a picture is. And if you think Uncharted 3 looks better than TLoU, you need glasses. I'm sorry, but it's not really even close, as much as I love Uncharted 3.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 10:37:10 PM

Shadow Fall looks really nice and clean like a slick star wars clinical laboratory but TLoU is on a whole other visual level in so many ways. Even just the characters, they were really alive right down to the pain in their faces. In Shadow Fall people don't even blink and the environments lack a range of detail.

And it's just silly to think a 1080p version of the multiplat Black Flag achieves more.

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Killa Tequilla
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 11:28:02 PM

I don't know how to reply to this

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Jawknee
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 11:37:07 PM

TLOU > Uncharted 3.

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Temjin001
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 11:46:29 PM

I think it's important to note how much the appearance of visual quality can change based on how far you're sitting from the tv.
Last of Us looks outstanding when I actually have my butt on the couch. But if I move forward, onto the floor and closer to my TV, I can see a whole lot of lower res stuff I couldn't recognize from before. Suddenly it doesn't seem so impressive at that point.
It's probably best to play TLoU at an ideal distance, as Naughty Dog would have intended it to be viewed from.

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Jawknee
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 12:09:15 AM

That's pretty much every game though. Especially of you have a large screen. Even God of War 3 and Wind Waker HD(which is 1080p native) gets pixelated when up close.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 12:37:33 AM

Temjin, that's basically meaningless. I can do that with any game, including Shadow Fall.

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Temjin001
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 1:16:21 AM

hey, sorry to confuse. I'm just pointing out that perhaps TLoU doesn't look so good to master shams because he may be sitting a lot closer or something. I'm not trying to persuade anyone different of their opinion. And I'm not suggesting one should be seen better over another. good heavens

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infamousgodV2_0
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 7:23:38 AM

@ ethird1
Thank you. Im glad im not the only 1 who thinks that. The Last of Us is the most overrated, over hyped game of 2013 period. I just didn't see the hype to me it looks like a cross between Heavy Rain & Dead Rising.

I knew this site was gonna pick the last of us because its a sony friendly site and no1 can say and thing bad and gets ignored if they do. go ahead fanboys keep riding sonys dk. i'll enjoy all my games on all my systems Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo & PC. because fanboyism is so 1990's. My Game of the year goes to GTA 5

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Shams
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 8:51:23 AM

Well, World, I guess inFamous 1 has both of them beat, b/c even the eyes of npc's blink, if that's your metric of "range of detail".

Ben, I don't think you need to check your eyes as much as your agenda, but to each his own. Whatever generates discussion, right?

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Underdog15
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 8:57:13 AM

Shams, while I think detail is a piece of the puzzle, it has to HAS to come down to more than just polygons, resolution, and frame rates. If that's all that visuals boil down to, then we could get some REALLY boring and uninteresting visuals getting top scores.

I think TLOU gets the nod because, not only does it have top notch graphics for a PS3 (it really, REALLY does.) look at the entire presentation. It's not exactly a bland world. How many visual models do you think had to be created for it? Think about the emotion they were able to relay through the characters. The whole thing was visually artistic. Even the diversity of all 4 seasons is enough to show the complexity of the visual presentation.

I'm not sure I agree with you at all, really. And bringing agenda into it... I mean, come on man... Surely you can piece together a better argument for your point of view than to just do the politically correct version of name calling.

@infamousgod
Why did a site like Gamespot have their readers overwhelmingly defeat GTA5 and all other titles in favour of TLOU? You can't possibly think it's a stretch for TLOU to win high honours from anyone....

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Shams
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 9:01:04 AM

Jawknee, I agree TLOU is a better game than Uncharted 3, I even agree that TLOU is GOTY (though I wouldn't call eThird an "ass" for prefering Dragon's Crown), but I don't think TLOU beat out the concurrently developed Uncharted 3 in terms of visuals (nor was ND even trying to), let alone Killzone:SF. KZ:SF, without a doubt in my mind, is visually the best console game I've ever played.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 9:08:16 AM

It was just an example. In any case I'd be surprised if you could find another site that agrees with your opinion. I was the most vocal opposer of The Last of Us but even I can see what's right in front of me.

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Shams
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 9:11:09 AM

Underdog, if Ben mentioned "artistic direction", or even impressive use of least technical resources, or something or the other, I would've given the benefit of the doubt.

But let's not play naive here, or play obsequious. And, I didn't call anyone an "ass", speaking of name calling. Anyhow, I'm not declaring war over something as petty as this. So whatever floats your boat, guys.

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Shams
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 9:24:23 AM

World, I don't consult sites, metacritic, or online aggregate scores to form my own impression of a game. But FYI, I'm not the only one who thinks KZ:SF has the best visuals of any console game, period, and I don't understand why that would be a surprise. Also, I understand "blinking eyes" was just one and not the only example (which mind you, some characters have it, some do not). So is 1080p resolution.

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Underdog15
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 10:22:51 AM

Sure he mentioned it, Shams. He didn't specifically say "Artistic direction", but it was pretty darn close. Here's a quote:

"Shams: The Last Of Us did things on an artistic and design level that Shadow Fall absolutely did not. Only in terms of sheer detail does SF win; there are about a half-dozen other elements involved when determining best overall graphics."

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xenris
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 10:30:00 AM

I get the thumbs down this guy is receiving but honestly let him have his opinion.

I'm honestly in the same boat is this guy although to less of an extreme in that I think TLoU was over rated.

I personally had more FUN playing Dragons Crown, Rayman Legends, Guacamelee, this year than I did playing TLoU.

From a pure gameplay perspective TLoU got boring for me, the gameplay was very basic and never evolved much or demanded enough of me.

I loved the atmosphere, the story and the characters though, but about half way through the game I didn't want to play it anymore and just wanted to watch and see what happens.

This has happened in other games before, where I just want to see where the story is going and don't want to play the game anymore.

I still think its like an 8 or more out of ten, because I did really like the multiplayer.

But I don't think its fair to rip on someone who liked Dragons Crown more than TLoU, because honestly they are different games and Dragons Crown will appeal hugely to certain people over TLoU.

Just my 2 cents.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 10:34:57 AM

Shams: Shut it. The instant you said "agenda" was the instant you lost all credibility in any argument. It doesn't even make any sense. TLoU and Shadow Fall are both Sony exclusives, remember? What, I have an "agenda" based specifically around Naughty Dog? Am I receiving some sort of payment that I'm unaware of?

We gave TLoU Best Graphics. We are HARDLY the only site to do that, even with Shadow Fall in the running. I explained very clearly what involves a graphical analysis, which you straight-up ignored. The only "agenda" I have is to deliver awards that seem the most accurate; you, on the other hand, don't seem to want to admit that you can't analyze a visual presentation for beans.

Then, when you realize you're way out of your element, you resort to the "agenda" argument. I spend many hours doing these every year (and by the way, David collaborated on these, so it wasn't just me) and I don't appreciate such adolescent claims. Got it?

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Underdog15
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 10:40:22 AM

I can see that, Xenris. That makes sense to me. For a lot of games, the story is the reason I play them. And normally, and admittedly, my favorite games tend to be the ones, not necessarily with the best story or plot points, but the ones with the best characters.

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xenris
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 11:00:31 AM

Exactly. I have two types of games I like. Ones with excellent stories that blend the gameplay just enough to make it something you can't get from a movie.

And then games that have little to no story and are just about the gameplay, and the challenge of overcoming.

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Temjin001
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 11:23:52 AM

sometimes sites do best technical and most artistic just for graphics.

i'd maybe pick these PS games for technical
KZ SF
Crysis 3
GoW: A
TLoU
GTAV

for artistic i'd maybe pick
Rayman Legends
Tearaway
DmC
The Puppeteer
Bioshock

EDIT: these are in no particular order


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Jawknee
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 11:47:13 AM

"tems Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo & PC. because fanboyism is so 1990's. My Game of the year goes to GTA 5"

No one cares. Buh-bye!

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Shams
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 4:11:58 PM

Thanks Underdog. I somehow missed that bit. I stand corrected.

Ben, out of my element (was that a "Big Lebowski" reference?) and resorting to name calling? Kettle calling pot black. I understand you're on edge. But when are you not? You call people names, tell them to check their eyes, then call others adolescent for reacting in kind. Respect goes both ways, but whatever. Kudos to you and your helpers on the awards, even though your attitude could use a little work.

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Shams
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 5:07:11 PM

World, yes there are some rather sparse "lab" stages in KZ:SF. But there are plenty of organic stages with effulgent lighting, foliage, texture detail, and magnificent vistas, as far the eye can see, the likes of some of which i haven't even seen on my pc. Without giving too much away, towards the end of the game, I was perusing a Vektan courtyard with spider bot, and my mind was blown seeing up close the heart-achingly detailed rock textures, light reflecting from leaves, foliage and water.

Once again, I apologize for missing out on the commentary of artistic direction. I do think that's debatable, cause you're comparing a post apocalyptic setting with a far distant futuristic one. Purely technically speaking though, I don't think there's any room for debate. But to each, his own. I just firmly believe in giving credit where it's due. And GG should get it's due.

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Shams
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 5:10:18 PM

You may have hit the nail on the head, Sensei Temjin. I sit only a few feet from my 42" screen.

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slow and smart
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 5:43:21 PM

ethird1:Is that you mister flatline?


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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 9:53:11 PM

Shams: My attitude? You accuse me of having an agenda for the awards. What do you want me to do? Pat you on the back and say, "aw, that's okay, it's just your opinion"? After all the work I went to?

I didn't call you any name. I said you were out of your element and based on what you said concerning graphics, you are. That's not an insult; it seems to be a statement of fact. If you can't handle that, it's not my problem.

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Temjin001
Saturday, January 04, 2014 @ 1:29:37 AM

yah, I notice they have the texture resolution set to a level where it's ideal at about 8-10' from screen but it rapidly degrades even at 7-6' on my 40" LCD. Which btw, LCD sorta blows at a darker game like this. Black levels come nowhere near Plasma quality.
But anyway, ND appears to be using smart and consistent usage of very limited memory resources.
Something like Shadowfall will be using far higher resolution bitmaps, maybe like 4096x4096, and with the pixel resolution clocking in at a full 1920x1080. That would mean being able to move quite a bit closer before the image integrity breaks apart and begins to look crappier. In fact, some may be sitting too far back when playing some high res games on PS4 and they won't be discerning the added detail of the higher res assets etc.

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Temjin001
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 8:59:52 PM
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http://kotaku.com/here-is-a-video-of-joel-from-the-last-of-us-doing-the-b-1478821423


....sorry I just had to do this once.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 10:45:31 PM

I do not remember that in the game.

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ZettaiSeigi
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 11:06:28 PM

It's because Joel actually didn't. Naughty Dog made that for the Spike VGX where they were awarded the Studio of the Year.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 9:09:36 AM

aww that was nice of them

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Temjin001
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 9:01:12 PM
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Looks like a lot of great games to play.

Was Rayman Legends considered in this lineup?
That seemed like a real strong title worthy of something.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 9:21:53 PM

I still consider that a 2012 game.

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Temjin001
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 9:30:45 PM

why?
Origins was in 2011.
Legends, a brand new adventure, was a few months ago, in Summer of 2013.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 10:19:07 PM

Yeah, sorry, but I never played it.

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Jawknee
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 11:35:45 PM

Rayman Legends looks pretty fantastic. I may pick it up once it drops in price.

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Temjin001
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 11:41:41 PM

The demo was fantastic. I think the game holds like a 90% metacritic rating or something. Probably best platformer of the year, outside of Nintendo's platform.

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infamousgodV2_0
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 7:27:12 AM

@ Ben
This is why i hardly this site seriously you don't all the games u can. Rayman Legends is better then the last of us

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Underdog15
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 9:06:49 AM

oooooooohhhhh. I see, infamousgod. You're one of those people.

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xenris
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 10:22:37 AM

I was harping on Ben to play Rayman Legends forever in the comments section. It is a very well crafted platformer, and definitely should have been on this list.

What about Guacamelee? Another amazing platformer game that seemed to be overlooked here.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 10:37:34 AM

Wasn't overlooked at all. Was nominated for Best Vita Game.

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xenris
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 11:02:27 AM

Oh sorry Ben I honestly didn't catch that :P

I don't have a vita so I kind of skimmed over that award section.

You should have had a best action platformer category :)

I think there were enough of them this year to make it its own category. Guacemelee, Knack, Rayman, Terraway, Puppateer etc.

Something to think about next year, if we get some more decent platformers.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 11:05:26 AM

I think we did have Best Platformer at one point but they just started to disappear. I honestly didn't realize how many great ones came out in 2013, but I also don't like the idea of sometimes having an award, and sometimes not.

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Underdog15
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 11:08:42 AM

I wonder if it'll be more commonplace with indie devs getting to be more commonplace and respected.

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Jawknee
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 11:30:54 AM

"@ Ben
This is why i hardly this site seriously you don't all the games u can. Rayman Legends is better then the last of us"

My goodness this is an inane post. Go away.

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bigrailer19
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 9:19:50 PM
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Awesome list. I'm excited to see KZ and Knack receive some recognition as well as some kind words.

Personally for me Knack is the most underrated game. I've been playing it for a week and am on chapter 8 now and the game is nothing short of brilliant fun. Any old school fans will love this game. It's a total throwback.

Best online for me goes to BF4 or KZ. KZ is tighter and more balanced, however it's hard to ignore BF4 ' size and accomplishments in creating what the title implies... an online battlefield.

GoTY yeah it should rightfully go to TLoU. Good job guys at PSXE. An p the year in the books.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 10:44:57 PM

Knack seems to bring in many varying opinions, nobody who played Metro didn't like it, and Gran Turismo seems to be undergoing a flurry of ignorant reviewing practices so that's kind of where the weight went.

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bigrailer19
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 11:19:02 PM

Yeah Knack is my choice lol. While Metro and GT got good reviews Knack did not. It was very underrated in that sense. I think Knack is suffering from the same ordeal GT is regarding reviews. But every person I've discussed the game with has enjoyed it atleast to the point that they don't regret buying it. So underrated it is.

There's actually a lot of games that one could go to. I'm good with any on that list.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 9:11:55 AM

If it's any consolation it is my informed opinion that critics just aren't picking up on the fact that there is a great deal of old school influence in Knack and they are writing that off as unimaginative. The same goes for Shadow Fall imo.

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bigrailer19
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 11:53:34 AM

Your 100 percent correct. I think the same thing. I think reviewers were expecting some sort of new age platform because it was OK n the PS4.

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bigrailer19
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 1:19:14 PM

I hate my phone; my explanation was supposed to read that I think reviewers were expecting a new age platformer, because it was on the PS4. In reality we got what fans really wanted. All last gen I remember frequently people asking for an old school game like Crash. Well we got it with Knack and believe it or not it is highly imaginative. It's a super good game. It's a high 7 to low 8 in my book. After I finish it I can come up with something more definitive.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 5:25:28 PM

I just recently came to hate my phone, it won't run the playstation app

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PoopsMcGee
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 9:36:07 PM
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Good list but Tearaway should've won "Most Original/Innovative"

Happy New Year all!

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Fabi
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 9:44:01 PM

My thoughts exactly.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 10:19:50 PM

Eh...it's not like the concept of using paper to make a level has never been tried before.

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PoopsMcGee
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 1:23:43 PM

Not many have.

And none have done it like Tearaway.

Everything about that game is innovative! The player's role as the sun, all the paper mechanics, all the brand new ways to use the Vita's unique features, the overall personalization of the narrative through crafts and photos, etc, etc.

Them's my 2 cents...



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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 2:44:32 PM

That's true. But I don't see it as being more innovative/original than Puppeteer. Have any of you played the latter?

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Fabi
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 3:52:00 PM

Yes, and to keep it short, still think Tearaway shoulda won, hands down. There's just nothing like it, anywhere. And the experience is only achievable on the Vita, which makes it even more unique.

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frostface
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 9:44:45 PM
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Because I enjoyed TLoU I can't argue with it winning though my GOTY was for Tombraider.

I might of went with Killzone: Mercenary's for the Vita as last years best but I just bought Tearaway today and it's growing on me in a big way. And I'm lucky too because I nearly didn't get it as the demo was rubbish. Glad I took a chance.

Glad to see Fifa 14 got a win, it's a seriously good game.

In fact my only real grievance with the awards if we can call it that was with Killzone Shadowfall winning best PS4 game. It's an ok shooter, more style over substance imo. I guess with there being slim pickings with PS4 exclusives, it puts the list between KZ and Knack so the decision makes sense but AC: Black Flag is the best game on PS4 right now.

Anyway, not a bad list for this years awards and with such a high level of games as nominees, it's hard to argue with the results even if I've a different outcome in my head.

Well done PSXE.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 11:29:11 PM

Cross-gen games, meh

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frostface
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 6:33:05 AM

I know right.

Look TLoU was a terrific game, the best exclusive title last year but for me it was the only exclusive title worth mentioning. I guess it was a slow year for the big exclusives, or at least one's I was digging.

Tombraider was for me last years GOTY. I was looking forward to the game since it was announced and it didn't disappoint.

And I know you just got a PS4 yourself World, you really should look into getting AC:Black Flag, even if you're like me and didn't play AC3. Despite being cross-gen, you know well were I stand on cross-gen games, there's no denying that it's the best game on the PS4 right now. That won't last long as it's possibly only there because there really aren't all that many games on the PS4 right now, but it is quality. And definitely more fun and technical accomplishment than KZ.

KZ might be the best looking game but that's where it ends. And Black Flag does look really nice, not KZ nice granted but there's so much more going on i.e. larger world, more gameplay elements etc... in AC:BF that tips the scales in it's favour over KZ.

Normally these aren't two games that would be compared but since we're talking about best New/Next Gen game, with such a small number of titles to chose from, my hand is forced to pit them against each other.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 9:18:12 AM

Oh yeah I don't doubt the quality of Black Flag, everyone has been very vocal about it including my brother who I trust. The only reason I don't have it is I just can't play those games, I did try hard with !, II, and III but I don't dig the combat and the stealth systems make me angry.

Anyway, as Ben said the pick was more centered around showcasing the hardware this early in the game than about what was actually the best experience. Kind of like how they often give the Nobel Peace Prize to someone who hasn't done anything yet but from whom the world expects great things. That's kinda what I meant when I said "meh cross gen" in the sense that Black Flag can be totally amazing but it's still basically a PS3 game.

Edit: My "personal opinion" GOTY is either Bioshock Infinite or Tomb Raider depending on my mood that day lol.

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bigrailer19
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 2:19:40 PM

World - you should try Black Flag. Maybe rent it. I'm usually pretty rough on AC, except for Brotherhood and Black Flag has me all smiles. I really enjoy it.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 3:14:00 PM

If it's ever a PSPlus offering I'll try it.

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Jawknee
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 9:52:05 PM
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Woohoo! The Last of Us, Bioshock and Zelda A Link Between a Worlds, easily my favorite games of 2013. Pikmin 3 and Mario 3D World as well though those weren't on the list. :)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 10:16:22 PM
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Great article Ben, this was a lot of fun to collaborate on :)

I only wish Beyond and Tomb Raider could have gotten more recognition, but things were tricky.

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Gabriel013
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 2:14:34 AM

I just started Beyond Two Souls last night and I am absolutely loving it. I didn't want to turn it off to go to bed.

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Wrote
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 11:22:07 PM
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Ha! TLoU could've easily won some of the categories it didn't. It just did everything right. Hey who on he staff played those non PS gsmes? I just got a 3ds and fire emblem awakening is amazing and the best in the series.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 11:28:06 PM

I've only got Sony hardware (aside from my retro systems) so Ben played those non playstation ones.

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Jawknee
Thursday, January 02, 2014 @ 11:34:04 PM

You owe it to your self to get A Link Between Worlds if you haven't yet. Especially if you're a fan of A link to the Past. The game is such a gem.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 9:19:56 AM

A Link to the Past defined a lot of my youth.

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Underdog15
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 10:31:10 AM

One of my best friends just got three Zelda hearts tattooed on his chest over his heart yesterday. The third heart is only half full. ^.^

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 3:19:50 PM

Awesome tat.

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Wrote
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 5:14:42 PM

This may seem like blasphemy but I've never played a Link to the Past or any top down Zeldas. I didn't even know what Zelda was when I had an SNES as a kid, but ever since OoT the series has been one of my favorite. And as a result I do plan on giving a link between worlds a chance.

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matt99
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 12:35:29 AM
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I'm not sure how Battlefield can be disqualified for online glitches and yet GTA wins it? Sure BF4 had and still has some problems, (personally I've rarely experienced any of the serious bugs people have reported) but GTA was completely unplayable at launch and had loads of serious bugs for at least a month, there weren't "a few kinks" it was quite simply not a finished product. At least I was able to play and enjoy BF4 online the day it came out.

I honestly don't know why Rockstar gets a free pass on this, and I'm not just talking about this article, but in the entire gaming community. GTAV is a fantastic game no doubt, but the fact is the online was not finished and should not have been released as it was.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 12:38:55 AM

GTAO was fixed in a matter of weeks, and it was not "unplayable" for a month because I played it fine.

Rockstar and Take-Two aren't the one facing lawsuits over a busted product, which is what BF4 really is. Online is broken and has been broken since the launch TWO MONTHS AGO. There is no excuse for that.

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matt99
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 1:29:35 AM

But BF4 isn't broken...I've been able to play it just fine (over 40 hours), so has my brother and many of my friends. I don't know a single person who was able to play GTAO at all in those first few weeks.

I agree that when it finally worked GTAO was great and certainly worthy of best online. I'm just saying it's ludicrous to say BF4 is disqualified because of some issues, while GTAO gets given a complete pass when it actually was broken at launch.

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bigrailer19
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 2:13:47 AM

This is one of those cases of he said/he said. To put it bluntly, I've been playing BF4 since launch and its not hindered to the extent you make it out to be. Ive been very honest about BF4 and yes in the beginning disconnects were an issue, about 1 an hour or so. And sound would cut out in the beginning of atleast 50% of every match. But it was and still is very playable despite those imperfections.

GTA was simply broke. You could not play it at all. There's a big difference. You even wrote articles about it. Them being sued is very irrelevant too because it could have easily been Rockstar. BF4 is not busted, it has some technical glitches that dont hinder you being able to play. Ive never once tried to log in and not be able to start playing.

I'm with Matt on this. I argued when GTA5 released that it shouldn't have been reviewed without the online for this exact reason.

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frostface
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 8:07:38 AM

I'm with Matt on this as well. I tried playing GTAO many times straight after launch and it was unplayable to the point where Rockstar even put their hand up and said it was broken and gave everyone who'd attempted to play the online during it's launch month (a month from launch of the online release) something like a million in-game dollars to compensate for how bad it was. Maybe they've fixed it now and maybe it's worthy of best online, from my experience with the game it definitely wasn't.

And BF4's problems for me weren't as bad as some people where finding. My biggest gripe wasn't even with the MP, I don't even remember having any connection problems in fact. No my biggest problem with BF4 was with the campaign save glitch that lost all my game progress forcing me to start over. But as far as the online goes, for me anyway it was perfectly fine.

You've admitted many times Ben that you don't play online games and with your busy schedule here reviewing games, I'm not too sure just how much time you've invested in the BF4 MP to be able to support your comments. When you start bringing up EA being sued as a point to base your argument on, I'm starting to think you're basing your whole case on what you've read on the internet rather than what you've actually personally experienced. Prove me wrong.

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slugga_status
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 12:58:53 PM

I mentioned this the other day..I still can't play another game mode outside team deathmatch. It's ridiculous..I had issues day one with gta5 but was able to do the race later that night and didn't have another issue. My first BF game outside 1942 so I'm a newbie switching from CoD and i must say this is not a good first impression. I don't know who's PS4 server is worse between 2k and BF

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 1:40:43 PM

That's your experience, frostface. You may have noticed that not everyone has the same experience; I have friends who can't go an hour with BF4 crashing or freezing. I had the same issues.

GTAO has been fixed for a while. BF4 is not. That's the long and short of it, really.

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matt99
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 6:14:48 PM

But Ben, the point is BF4 is not and has never been anywhere near as bad as GTAO was for the first month at least, and so I really don't see how one is better than the other. Basically, GTAO's issues were extremely severe but not as long lasting whereas BF4's issues are not as severe or widespread but have lasted longer. I'm not trying to defend BF4's faults but if you're going to disqualify one of them for online issues then you must disqualify both.

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Kryten1029a
Saturday, January 04, 2014 @ 4:30:50 PM

I can't really understand how GTA:Online won that category. It's a good idea brought down by sloppy execution and rampant hacking. Maybe it's the LS Customs money glitch that Rockstar has never been able to patch despite multiple attempts, the hackers/modders manipulating the game to give themselves billion of GTA$ or the confusion that's reigned since those same hackers started gifting millions to random players but it's pretty evident that the devs don't have any control of what's going in their game.
Go to the Rockstar support forum to see the user submitted questions and you'll see what I'm talking about. People are hacking the game to give themselves massive amounts of money and putting billion dollar bounties on other players. When some random gamer would claim the bounty and share it among his friends, he was subject to a game ban or being placed in the cheater pool for up to 10 months. If you wound up in the Bad Sport pool for in-game behavior (the conditions for which seem arbitrary and restricting for the type of game that we're talking about) then you might not be able to get out when your banishment period expired and Rockstar seems to be at a loss for how to handle it.
The online is a Beta and it's a Beta that Rockstar saw fit to attach microtransactions to. By the time they get this sh*t sorted out, the legitimate players will have been driven off and the the godmode hackers and griefers will be the only ones left! I'd love to be able to recommend GTA:Online but when you've hit a level 1000 opponent(an impossible level for anybody who hasn't been playing in modded lobbies)in the head with an RPG and they just shrug it off then it's hard to do so.

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Jalex
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 12:36:18 AM
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Have to say, nothing this year even approached 'Ni no Kuni' on the soundtrack front for me. One of my favorite scores ever, I can still summon specific moments just based on the music.
I would also give it my RPG of the year. But while I think it's undoubtedly the most polished title nominated, I suppose the award is a little subjective, based on what one expects from their RPG.

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Gordo
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 2:27:32 AM
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Good awards. Has been a good year for gamers...

My best games have been Dragons Crown, Tearaway, Killzone Merc, Beyond Two Souls and Metro Last Light. TLOU I picked up at Christmas so will be enjoying it soon.

All good fun!

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Remo Williams
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 3:50:23 AM
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I would've liked to have seen Tearaway nominated for best Soundtrack, but I won't argue with your selections. Here's the URL to my favorite song in the game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu3_yN_HOL4&list=PL5SE4kmS4ijnzcbTcWzfeK6uTYjSM46nc

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Danny007
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 3:59:21 AM
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Great picks. Love the goty choice.
Great categories as always.
Nice to Rocksmith 2014 win something. What an improvement upon the original.

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Beamboom
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 5:19:06 AM

Agreed. Rocksmith is a title easy to overlook. A good pick indeed.

I only got the first Rocksmith but that "game"/interactive teacher is a very well made piece of software. Very cool of Unbisoft to target such a niche audience.

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Beamboom
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 5:27:24 AM
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Ok, it has to be said:
To let a remaster of an age-old game be the most anticipated game in the year that introduced a spanking new generation is highly questionable, to put it gently. Particularly since it seems the argument is mostly politically motivated.

It could work as a personal "most anticipated" for the individual reviewers and I do realize that in practise this is just that, but still, these awards represent the site as a whole and if we did a quick poll across a good pool of (soon-to-be) PS4 owners I would be surprised if FF10 was even *mentioned*.

"Most anticipated jrpg"? Maybe. But most anticipated game? That is madness. No way it deserves that.

But other than that, it's good nominations and fair winners. No surprises, but it has to be like that in a year that's been pretty thin on stellar releases.

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Underdog15
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 7:30:35 AM

Have you seen it's mad sales in Japan, though? It's sold faster than hot-cakes! Over there it certainly seems it was the most anticipated of this year! (Since it was released there right at the end of December)

I don't think it's much of a stretch.

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Beamboom
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 8:14:16 AM

... but would it be the most anticipated game for 2014 - even in Japan?

I don't know, man. I really don't know.

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Underdog15
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 9:05:47 AM

Maybe not. But it still isn't a stretch, is what I'm saying. Either way, we can wait and see how fast the Japanese haul next year's games off the shelf.

FFX was a hard hitter in it's day. It was an early PS2 gen game and moved systems.

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Beamboom
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 9:16:59 AM

Let's make an analogy: Let's say Half-Life 2 were due to re-release next year.

Now, Half-Life is hailed as being one of the best shooters in the HISTORY of gaming. No less.
But still: To award this remake as the most anticipated release... It just becomes completely wrong for me, no matter how many million preorders that cash-cow would have fetched. And *especially* if it was declared a winner to send a signal to Valve that we want more shooters like that.


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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 9:26:50 AM

I think it's a great pick for this site, we simply don't know enough about any of the upcoming games to be legitimately excited about them. There's almost no information on The Order, inFamous will be awesome but very familiar.

FFX is a piece of updated nostalgia and this site is comprised of a lot of very nostalgic older gamers who have a lopside love of JRPGs compared with any other site.

Without some political picks everyone looks the same ya know?

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frostface
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 9:33:30 AM

I'm gonna compile a list of Most Anticipated games for 2014 from different sources over on the forums. I've already browsed through countless numbers of sites and not one, not a single one, has even mentioned Final Fantasy. It's Ben most anticipated but it's not the gaming communities most anticipated and therefore this one result is imo just another mans opinion but not objectively chosen result for this category.

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Underdog15
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 10:34:58 AM

In your opinion, Frosty! ^.^

I'm sure I could go out and find a number of communities that would disagree. Finding little packets of people to support our opinions basically means nothing. That applies to me, too.

I like World's justification best.

The only objective measurement you can truly make is to make one in hindsight. Which titles in 2014 will fly off the shelves the fastest... That's really the only way to know which ones are the most anticipated. We can't know that until it's done.

Heck, in truth... the most anticipated title is probably whatever the next CoD is!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 10:41:33 AM

It's OUR Most Anticipated. How the hell would we be able to pick the "gaming community's" most anticipated unless we magically polled every forum, blog and site in existence? We're not going to attempt to put a hand on the pulse of eight gazillion people and come up with an accurate winner.

It was OUR most anticipated. Doesn't mean it's everyone's. How could that possibly be misinterpreted?

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Beamboom
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 10:52:59 AM

lol - that is from a statistical perspective probably true, Underdog. :)

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frostface
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 11:00:43 AM

Ok Underdog I'll grant you this one. It's silly for me to bring up other sites. But this result is absolutely Bens most anticipated and not the 'our' most anticipated for the site. I'll tell ya what, for next week's readers poll, list 10 upcoming game's and have people vote for their most anticipated. Stick FF in there and we'll see the results. If I'm mistaken I will issue a public apology.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 11:06:55 AM

It isn't just mine. It's mine and David's. And if you had any knowledge of people who post on this site, frostface, rather than remaining entrenched in the forums 99% of the time, you'd know that FFX/X-2 HD Remaster is the Most Anticipated title for a LOT of readers here.

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frostface
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 11:23:57 AM

No need to be so defensive Ben. My New Years resolution is to be nicer and get involved more on the main site, so if we disagree it's not a personal assault on you. I only mention your name because you have a lot of history with FF (as a lot of people do) and the result just comes off as your own personal most anticipated game and I'm not the only person who commented about it. But look if I'm wrong I'll apoligise.

Since I'm going to be more active on the main site, meet me halfway and make an effort to not just blow a fuse when we disagree and I'll do the same.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 12:25:16 PM

We did agree that FFX HD was our personal most anticipated and also that it reflects the overall tone of this main site, also because it's difficult to anticipate so many unknowns.

Frostface, things are getting warm in here but I'm sure you understand GOTY is a heated area and we kinda feel compelled to defend choices. I'm sure Ben is just annoyed at some above argumentation and didn't mean any offense. Stick to your resolution even if we get testy, maybe you can be a forums ambassador along with Beam :)

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frostface
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 12:38:17 PM

Alright, I'm gonna apologise. Ben, I jumped the gun and made an assumption that the most anticipated result was your own personal choice and not the collective thinking of the site.

I still disagree with the result but if that's the sites most anticipated game, who am I to say it isn't?!

World, I'm stickin' to the resolution, no worries there mate.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 12:49:56 PM

You're entitled to disagree, frostface. Everyone always is, especially when it's a purely subjective thing like "Most Anticipated."

I too apologize for being a little edgy. It's just that when you spend a loooong time preparing a feature like this, one tends to get a trifle irritated when one's integrity and intentions are questioned. :)

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frostface
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 1:24:41 PM

Well then Ben, I say we shake on it and move on with 2014 and enjoy the fact that we're all so lucky to have the opportunities to indulge in our hobby. I have a good feeling about this year in gaming. :)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 3:25:19 PM

Excellent gents, onward then. :)

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Turbey
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 5:39:45 AM
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Totally agree on TLoU, deserves every award it got! Probably played through that game 3 or 4 times by now.

Though, I`ve totally forgot about Metro: Last Light, is it that good?

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Beamboom
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 6:32:28 AM

If a post-apocalyptic stealth/shooter with focus on a story is within your gaming preferences I can't understand how one can *not* like Metro: Last Light.
Personally I believe it's one of the best games of 2013.

Very atmospheric, very interesting universe.
It's very consistent throughout and dare to focus entirely on it's story, without the "fun park" chapters that we so typically find in most shooters where you all of a sudden are dropped into something that makes no sense neither to the story or the universe.

Instead it trust it's story to be enough to keep you going. I applaud that.
This game is a gem.

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Turbey
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 8:44:23 AM

Well, I'm huge fan of stealth games in general (its why I love TLoU and Deus Ex so much), so I cant understand how this game has passed me by. How are the variations in levels? It seems to me to be very grey and boring though.

Edit; dobbelpost, sorry.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 9:34:00 AM

You have to understand that it takes place after a nuclear apocalypse so most of the game is beneath Russias subway tunnels. In my opinion though, 4A has done some incredible things in varying the environments in a 90% underground game.

You'll explore tracks, be threatened on waterways, fight the elements above the surface, burn through cobwebbed caverns, and visit areas reflective of the people down there (from resurgent Nazis to regimented communists). Overall yes it's grey and depressing and dark, but it only makes you cling to your dying flashlight more and the claustrophobic setting works on you while you use the shadows to execute your opponents.

It always uses it's dark environments in a good way.

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Beamboom
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 9:45:00 AM

Grey and boring... Well, it's not arcadey and cheerful, to put it like that. This is a world after the Big Bomb with a surface that has become deadly for humans. You will head to the surface now and then (with a mask) but much of the game takes place under ground, in underground cities, tunnels and inside buildings.

If this is boring to you is really up to your preferences. I'd head over to Youtube and check out some gameplay videos and judge for yourself.
But this is a "realistic" world (within the boundaries of this story of course). The different levels (or chapters) hold various properties but it's not as extremely varied as some other shooters who (as I mentioned in my first post) becomes more like a fun park ride. It's more about the story than the fun factor, to put it like that. But still, this *is* a good, and often fun, game.

But check out a few reviews on trusted sites and see some video clips. I think you will be able to judge it from there. :)

EDIT: I wrote this while World posted his comment. So yeah - what World said, more or less. :)

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Underdog15
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 10:45:48 AM

I kinda see where Turby is coming from too, though. I agree with both World and Beam in that it seems (from vids I've watched) to have great atmosphere and have a lot of diversity for being underground. I get that it has to be believable, and I get that the dark atmosphere is basically a necessity to the setting.

I'm not saying any of that is wrong, but it is unattractive to me. I had the same issue with Fallout 3. It makes sense to be a wasteland, and within that context it's a great fit. I don't even think it should be different. But it is, nevertheless, boring for me.

I'm also the kind of guy that goes for walks and hikes with my family and enjoy colours and scenery. Again, a personal preference thing. Not objective at ALL, on my part.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 10:53:52 AM

And that's a good point Underdog it depends a lot on personal experience. I live in Minnesota so I'm not affected much by that trend every game went through where it had to have snow to be awesome. The scene where Ellie hunts the deer is like everyday business to me so it wasn't as touching. We get the seasons in full force here and consequently I have a love of dark tombs, caves, and urban wastelands.

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Beamboom
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 10:57:57 AM

The comparison with Fallout is very good.

Graphically speaking Metro is miles better due to the advantages of being a fully linear game set in a very restricted environment, but it's got that same "ugliness" as Fallout. There are no gorgeous outlooks ala Assassins Creed here (man those games got some fantastic views).

You need to want to enter the world of Metro. You need to have an interest in that kind of scenarios. This is no pretty, colourful adventure. This is no Disney movie.

EDIT: lol - again World beats me while posting. :D

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Underdog15
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 11:05:02 AM

Nice! I'm from the east coast of Canada, and our weather there is as fickle as a manic depressive woman on her period. I remember having school cancelled for cold one day in January with -55 (-67F) and the next day was 36F with snow melting... Freakin' eh!

As for me, I'm just a changing seasons man. I love Autumn the best, and I don't hate any season. Maybe that's why I liked TLOU's atmosphere. Didn't you say once you were into archaeology or something? I'm more of a nature guy.

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Turbey
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 11:11:47 AM

Well, then it is settled then. Downloading from PSS as we speak.

I never said the game was boring, or, I didn`t mean it like that anyway. It`s just like Underdog said, a game that keep using brown and grey is a bit boring to me. It`s the main reason I haven`t played Fallout 3 for a long time now (+ its really stiff to play). But I`m giving it a go, and I`ll take it from there.

It`s a bit ironic that I comment on a game for being dark and grey, since I lives in a part of the world where it pisses rain everyday.



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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 3:23:03 PM

Turbey keep us posted on if our recommendation of Metro was helpful and if you enjoy it.

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Lawless SXE
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 7:02:11 AM
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Can't agree with everything - personal preference and all that - but a fine list nonetheless. The Last of Us definitely deserves to win, though depending on the preferences of the site/individual in regards to gaming as a hobby and/or an industry, just about any game can have a case made for it (some more convincing than others).

I think the major takeaway is that it's actually been a pretty fantastic year for gamers in general with just about everyone catered for in some way or another. I think Metro: Last Light needs to go on my list. Kinda wish 2033 made it to the PS3 so that I could play it first. Always feels odd jumping into a series halfway through or whatever. :/

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 9:37:50 AM

Yeah I wanted to play that one too, I even bought it off Steam for $5 but my stock PC wouldn't play it and I didnt wanna drop 200+ on a graphics card.

It's an amazing game, especially if you treat it more as a stealth adventure than a shooter (but you can make it a shooter if you want)

I'd just read a synopsis of the first game.

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Turbey
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 7:32:09 AM
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Well, I'm huge fan of stealth games in general (its why I love TLoU and Deus Ex so much), so I cant understand how this game has passed me by. How are the variations in levels? It seems to me to be very grey and boring though.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 9:38:27 AM

In case your eyes miss it, I gave you my impressions above.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 9:21:49 AM
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What do people think of the character of the year pick for Ellie? I really loved the Lara reboot and so did Ben but when we stacked the two characters up Ellie just seemed much more compelling in terms of what a game character can be where Lara was a great study in victim to hero psychology but had less to her.

Joel was also up there.

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ethird1
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 9:41:04 AM

Ellie was a little girl in ZOMBIE land that was immune to changing into them. WHOOOAAA that is so original! That is exciting and different? That is more ..... COMPELLING? You are as bad as Butka!

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frostface
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 10:05:02 AM

Ellie was good but I prefered either Lara or Elizabeth from Bioshock Infinite. Ellie was the least interesting of the three imo.

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darxed
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 10:23:51 AM

I thought she was great... For the longest time, It has been difficult to capture teens as characters in games... ND got her extremely right, not just for her age, but for what a teen would be like in an environment like the one in the game.

@ethird1 look! a stick! fetch! good troll!

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Underdog15
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 10:25:07 AM

I'm starting to think ethird is just trolling. If that's all he got out of Ellie's character, there are some rough report card scores in English and Creative Writing classes for him when he gets to high school.

@Frostface
I'm interested to give Bioshock:Infinite and the new Tomb Raider a go. I liked Ellie a lot, but can't say whether or not she was the best since I haven't played the other two you mentioned.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 10:57:01 AM

I felt like she was quite deep and nuanced, I've helped raise 4 nieces. The youngest is 5 and the oldest is 23, Ellie felt like a step forward as a representation of a realistic youth in a video game and I put plenty of weight on that myself.

If we were saying "favorite" instead of "best" I'd vote for Lara or Elizabeth over her too.

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frostface
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 11:05:18 AM

Underdog you should definitely try playing them. Bioshock Infinite was the first Bioshock game I liked and I fell in love with Elizabeth. Tombraider was just so awesome and Lara was just handled brilliantly, moving her away from just being eye candy that kicks ass (not that there's anything wrong with that).

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bigrailer19
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 12:00:33 PM

I think Joel is a better pick. To me he is far more interesting when you look at his whole story. Ellie is the focal point which probably makes her stand out.

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Underdog15
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 12:20:06 PM

@Bigrailer
I liked Joel as well. A hard-nosed buddy of mine definitely leaked water at the end of the first section. He's a single dad raising his daughter, too. I think he identified with that.

I did too, as a father, but I don't have a daughter. So it probably wasn't as potent as it was for my friend.

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frostface
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 12:41:23 PM

For sure, Joel was the better of the two main characters.

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slugga_status
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 1:07:10 PM

I would've went with Trevor..he brought some life into gta5 because thinking about it the story was dull..if i had to pick between Joel and Ellie i would go with Joel..is story waswhat really got me into the game

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bigrailer19
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 1:27:38 PM

Underdog-

I'm not a father at all, but compassionate to others (regardless of it being a video game) and because ND did such a great job you really feel for Joel. His character is so compelling. His journey and the way his relationship with Ellie transformed made him such a fun character to enjoy the ride with.

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Underdog15
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 10:27:40 AM
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I think the takeaway here for me is that these things will never satisfy everyone. I think on the whole, Ben and David did a great job collaborating on this. And whether you agree or not, I think they defend their positions appropriately.

Thanks for the hard work, guys. I ultimately learned a few things about games I haven't tried that I want to put on my list of "to-do"s.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 12:26:15 PM

Thank you.

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darxed
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 10:51:00 AM
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@Ben and World

I thought you guys did a great job. Completely agree on TLoU on all the awards, even if It wasn't really my kind of game, It was amazing.

Also, FFX HD Is also my most anticipated game for this year... And I think that for this site, It's a great pick...

Anyways guys, like I said before, great job, don't listen to the haters, cause they just gonna hate

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xenris
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 10:55:37 AM
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I doubt this comment will be seen BUT I will just comment on this article with my personal winners for each category :) I'm going to skip some categories.


Best Graphics:

Ni No Kuni, this game never ceased to amaze me in how pretty it was. Sure maybe its too cute for some but I loved what studio ghibli did here.

Best Music:

Ni No Kuni again the soundtrack here got stuck in my head for weeks. The music that played when you were on your flying mount was nothing short of epic.

Best Sound effects:

Gotta be Battlefield 4, I played the demo and man the sound effects these games provide is unreal. I always feel like a bullet is actually whizzing by my head.

Best Acting:

Dragons cro... No I'm kidding, the last of us hands down. Some of the best acting, and motion capture I have ever seen in a game ever.

Best Writing/story:

Bioshick infinite, the story was interesting, and I liked the writing that they gave the twins.

Best Art Direction:

Hands down Dragons Crown. It is either loved or hated by people, and I just so happen to be one who LOVES this art style. The amount of detail given to the sprites is just incredible.

Best Character:

Khan from Metro Last light. I fell in love with this character in the first metro and continued to love him in the sequel.

Best Trailer:

I actually got hyped up a lot from TLoU trailer.

Most Original:

I haven't played Puppateer but from what I have seen it wins this catergory lol.

Most overlooked:

This one is close but I give it to Guacemelee just a bit over Metro.

Most anticipated:

Dark Souls 2. I'm ready to die again. But this list is actually pretty big for me. I'm looking forward to EDF2025, DS2, Infamous, The Witcher, and FF15.

Best PS3 game:

Dragons Crown. I've had more fun playing this with my friends couch co op than any other game in recent memory.

Best PS4 game:

I'm going to get hate for this but Knack. I put that bad boy in Hard mode and it is a lot of fun. I'm replaying it again to unlock the rest of the skins and gadgets.

Best Multiplayer:

Dragons Crown, or the last of us. I'm giving this one a tie. Because locally I love Dragons Crown but online against others TLOU is so unique and fun I just couldn't put it down.

Best Role Playing game:

Ni No Kuni. It just felt like a JRPG of old to me. I like the tales games but have never really been sucked into them like I was with NNK.

Best Fighting Game:

I haven't played much of any that came out this year but I think I give it to Soul Calibur 2HD.

Best Shooter:

Metro Last light. For being a shooter that didn't try and copy CoD formulas.

Best Action Adventure game:

TLOU

Best new IP.

TLOU. I want to see what else they can do in this world. Most of all, I want to see if they can make the gameplay more interesting in the sequel :)

Best Non Playstation game:

Dota 2. I have put more hours than I want to admit into this game.

Game of the Year:

My personal Game of the year would have to be Dota 2, if we are talking about games in general.

But playstation wise I'm giving it to Dragons Crown. I love this game, and when summer time comes and I have more time me and my friends are going to hammer away at those new levels they patched into the game.



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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 11:01:33 AM

Nice choices, the main reason Ni No Kuni didn't get the best RPG nod was because it had some serious drag (I would say about 15 hours worth) but overall it was an amazing achievement which of course got a higher score. Xillia also had a much more dynamic story and battle system.

Tough call though whenever you have such quality on your hands.

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xenris
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 11:05:22 AM

I will admit I never have played Xillia but I really really want to. This summer I plan on getting it when I don't work so much.

So you say its more engaging through and through than NNK?

I didn't feel to much drag playing NNK but it had been a while since I played a good JRPG so maybe I overlooked it.

Another JRPG I still haven't played is Star Ocean 4, and I really want to get on that one as well. I loved SO3 so so much.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 11:09:16 AM

Explain just one thing to me, and this I've never understood: Outside of the setting and style, how the HELL did Ni no Kuni feel like a JRPG of old to you?

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xenris
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 11:23:18 AM

The world map, the quests and side quests that you were on, the story, and the combat.

It was just the combination of things really, I think rather what I should have said was it made me feel that feeling I felt when I played a JRPG of old.

The game itself feels like a newer JRPG and is obviously not turn based like old JRPGs tended to be, but I got that feeling that sense of wonder that I used to get from playing JRPGs. That sense of the world being huge and daunting, and that feeling of wanting to uncover everything, and level up my little monsters and my characters. Trying to find the best weapons and items in the game etc.

But that feeling is exclusive to JRPGs. I mean Skyrim although huge gave me no such feeling ever.

I hope that explains some of it :P

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Jawknee
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 11:48:08 AM

Ni No Kuni feels like a mix between old JRPG gaming and Pokemon. XD And that's not a bad thing.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 12:08:40 PM

The combat? No. Doesn't feel anything whatsoever like what I used to play, even when it wasn't turn-based.

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Underdog15
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 12:17:45 PM

I think for me, the largest throw back feeling was only due to the innocence of the game. It was an honest sort of innocence that reminds me of the kind of imaginative and caring person my 10 year old self wishes I was now.

Something about that makes me feel warm and peaceful, I guess.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 12:37:30 PM

I really did feel the old school in NNK too. Part of that is just a feeling of wonderment that it brought about but there were some real things too.

A world map with traditional travel options was big. There as the fact that the world was fantasty representation of our world, like how in FFVII there was a beach town and a city town and a small town and a winter town. NNK had all of those too. And in traditional JRPGs there is a new "get to know the town and its leaders" segment each time you reach a new town, that was the case in NNK. Modern games are like either "Here's a town, go look around" or "We have no towns, get back to the action"

Playing a young character was fun again, we were often a kid or teen in the PS1 days with Grandia, Suikoden, Legaia, Xenogears. Just dealing with the problems that kids deal with while saving the world was nostalgic.

I know you don't see it in the battle system but I felt it there too. Even with the action it was still fundamentally a menu-based and command-based system, but being in real time made you think on your toes so it was a little more modern. It kind of depends on how you played it too, if you ignored the strategic elements like using status effects and upgrading/learning new special moves then it would seem more like a straight forward Dragon Age kind of battle system.

Basically I saw all of the classic stuff in there even if it was buried beneath some modernization. The only thing that didn't jive was that the story was very simple and personal instead of vast and twisting.

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xenris
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 2:10:09 PM

Everything world said resonates with how I feel towards the game, pretty much to a T.

As for the combat Ben, well did you ever played Star Ocean 2 on the PS1? It plays quite similar to NNK actually. Also the old tales games had action based combat too. Also Valkyrie Profile. So while they were rare there were still JRPGs back then that had a more actiony feel to them than the Final Fantasys. NNK definitely feels more like one of those games than it does to say Dragon Age 1 and or 2 to me.

I felt that it had all the strategic elements that the JRPGs of old had only you had to be on your toes. You couldn't for example spam the attack command and hope to win the harder fights. It was this cool balance of using the menu and making sure you were dodging AOE attacks at the same time.

But the main point is that OVERALL it felt like an old school JRPG to me, it gave me those same feelings I felt when I was playing JRPGs on the PS1.


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Jawknee
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 2:14:47 PM

Ben, you interested in Bravely Default? I downloaded the demo. It's pretty cool.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 2:47:14 PM

Star Ocean: The 2nd Story on PS1 is one of my favorite RPGs of all time. But that combat wasn't anywhere near as frenetic as NNK, nor was I using cutesy, bouncy little animals in my party. NNK combat just felt too out of control for my taste; not in a disorganized way, just not my thing. And really, nothing like what I played back in the day.

As for the innocence, I get that part.

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xenris
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 5:01:05 PM

Its also one of my favourite RPGs too :P

I agree with you that NNK is VERY frenetic, and fast, faster than Star Ocean for sure.

Just out of the PS1 era of RPGS NNKs combat is closest to that than say final fantasy. When I started playing NNK the first thing that went into my head was man this is like star ocean.

But yeah at least you know where I'm coming from now even if you don't agree with it :)

Also leave the cutesy bouncy animals out of this :P

@Jawknee

I am really interested in Bravely default. How is it?

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 5:37:25 PM

Oh well, these days, ANYTHING is closer to the old-school JRPGs than Final Fantasy. LOL

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Jawknee
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 11:14:50 PM

It's pretty cool. It reminds me of the FF3 remake for DS. if you like Ni No Kuni or liked the FF3 remake you'll like this one.

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darxed
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 11:18:07 AM
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I forgot to post it earlier, but penny arcade chose TLoU as their game of the year, well, kinda-sorta.

They said it was their favorite "For being beautiful, and fun, and sad, and true" and I think that sums up the game perfectly.

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Temjin001
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 1:25:22 PM
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That's just a fine list of games PSXe. Now here's my list of the GREATEST games ever of 2013.

My 2013 nominees are.... (and are all I played)
GoW: A
DmC (about 3 hours)
Dyad
Runner 2
Crysis 3
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 Plus (this was actually terrible)
Ninja Gaiden 3 Razors Edge
DOA5 Plus
DOA5 Ultimate
Rocksmith 2014 (a few hours)
Star Wars Pinball
The Last of Us (about 3 hours)
Batman Origins (about 2-3 hours)
Grid 2
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic (browser game)

The Winner is...
probably DOA5 Ulimate
I have 80+ hours logged into DOA5
60 hours logged into DOA5+
and 40 hours DOA5 Ultimate

sorry, you can't have your wasted time back for reading all of this crap.


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Temjin001
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 1:51:44 PM

sweet mother!
Virtua Fighter 2 got an HD re-release this year.
Now that is unequivocally my GotY.
I've waited forever for that to get ported from arcade code.

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Jawknee
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 1:57:19 PM

What kind of guitar so you own? Also how difficult is Rocksmith? It's an interesting game but I suspect it's more for novice guitar players?

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Temjin001
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 2:04:51 PM

Ibanez.
They make good stuff but mine is a GiO so it's cheaper, still ran me almost $400 over 10 years ago.
It just felt real good at the shop and the dual humbucker pickups are nice for thick bodied sound.
I would've liked a few more frets, mine is just 22. Being a fan of lead guitar I'd have much prefered 24.

EDIT: and for Rocksmith, I helped my father in law set it up and get it going.
It's quite good. It has a learning curve and can be quite anal in some aspects. I also suspect it's not quite perfect at tuning. My accurate Snark tuner says Rocksmith is a bit off.
Rocksmith has a fairly clunky interface, but it does get quite advanced from what I could tell. It makes Guitar Hero look like a complete game and a joke to waste time on.
I had fun with the Rocksmith Arcade games. One was like Double Dragon, but you beat up guys by performing scale variants.


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Jawknee
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 2:20:22 PM

Cool. I may pick it up for when my kids start showing interest in learning to play. Ibanez is a decent brand though I've always preferred Gibson and Fender. I have a slick Gibson SG standard in cherry red and an American Fender Telecaster Deluxe in cherry sun burst. Both offer very different sounds.

What kind of amp do you have? I have a Mesa Boogie Triple Rectifier. That thing is a beast!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 3:20:30 PM

You must complete DmC before you continue to bash it. That battle system just keeps on expanding and getting more insane.

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Temjin001
Saturday, January 04, 2014 @ 1:40:17 AM

oh, I'll probably always bash it ;)
it's not Ninja Theory but idiot Crapcom I have the beef with.
anyway, I'll probably try it some more some time when it comes to PS+.
But I'm not one to be big on massive combos and juggles in games. It's one reason I sort of avoid games like MvC3 or TTT2. Fighting games with massive rosters and insane over-the-top juggles and combos tend to be very unbalanced that glorifies flair above all else. It's a reason I like VF's and core SF fighting games and their roster of fighters. The smaller cast and lesser obsession on juggles means for tighter, more balanced, and more methodical play. The moveslist are carefully refined with unique attributes and purpose.
Hack 'n slashers like DmC, NG, GoW, and BAyo etc vary wildly in their objectives as well. They're like single player neighbors of fighters. I'm not a fan of having a melting pot of tons of moves and combos dumped into a game. That to me suggests lack of dynamic balance and filler moves that exist for flair but have been given little thought to their individual balance and purpose. Unfortunately, I've had a problem with DMC games because they are leveraged more towards style and flair.

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Temjin001
Saturday, January 04, 2014 @ 1:51:03 AM

oh and you have some nice guitars Jawknee.
An American strat or nice Gibson is too rich for my blood.
I had a mexi-strat once. It was okay. I way prefer my current guitar.
I have a nice Crate amp. I forget it's wattage but it has nice effects and reverb and auxillery out. Sounds way better than my last 15 or 30 watt Peavy Rage, or something.
It'd be nice to have a full on Marshall tube amp or something but I never need to go that loud and thems are pricey.

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Jawknee
Saturday, January 04, 2014 @ 2:15:46 PM

Yea I had a Mexican Strat at one point. I sold it for rent. Hahaha it wasn't a great guitar anyway. I'm not much of a fan of Stratocasters in general. I've always preferred the Telecaster.

If you ever do decide to get a tube amp I'd look elsewhere. Marshall's are priced on the low end for a reason. They sound bad in comparison to brands like Mesa a Boogie or Saldono. They're very fuzzy sounding. But you really have to be a committed guitar player to want to buy a tube amp and cab. I've played in bands for many years and still do to this day so I kinda have to get the equipment.

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Temjin001
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 2:00:39 PM
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lol now this is great. and somewhat related, at least for sports fans.
initially I didn't see why #1 got #1 but when I realized two blockers of the same team were blocking each other oh man did I laugh!
http://kotaku.com/what-happens-when-real-life-sports-glitch-out-on-you-1493887459

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 3:18:06 PM
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It's a great day to be inside and argue about best game categories. All anyone is talking about is the cold snap. It's snowing here and it feels a lot colder than it is.

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bigrailer19
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 3:41:40 PM

I know your a vikings fan, I'm a Green Bay fan, and I don't envy those guys playing at Lambeau this weekend with -40 windchills.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 3:59:26 PM

Just finished shoveling about 10 inches worth. Always fun. :)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 5:26:45 PM

Well Ben you're a muscle dude so I don't feel too bad for ya.

I'm looking forward to watching that game from inside :) And I hope Green Bay gets killed at home.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 5:36:19 PM

Muscles don't mean as much as general fitness when shoveling snow. :)

And I hope Green Bay gets killed, too, but the super cold weather bothers me...

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bigrailer19
Friday, January 03, 2014 @ 6:08:36 PM

Well they probably won't get "killed" but it's gonna be a tough game. I'm less worried because of the weather. Those bay area boys have been practicing in 60 degree weather all week, while the pack have been outside in that crazy weather.

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Mightynemesis
Saturday, January 04, 2014 @ 2:20:39 AM
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i only disagree with the best ps4 game i didnt really think it was that great it was beautiful i admit but other than that it wasnt that good. I had more fun in Fifa , Ac4 and Bf4 and if i had to choose one it would be Ac4 yes killzone showed the graphical power of the ps4 but the gameplay kinda sucked and after gaming is mostly about the gameplay whi is why i would give it to Ac4 i absolutely loved that game :)

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Temjin001
Saturday, January 04, 2014 @ 11:22:08 AM

don't worry. i'd imagine most critics would agree stuff like AC4 was best PS4 game and Ni No Kuni was best RPG, but subjective reasoning allows us to pick whatever game we feel best for an award. woo hoo!

this is PSXe's list. we all have our own list as you have your own. you know? the most important of all.

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Mightynemesis
Saturday, January 04, 2014 @ 8:16:58 PM

yes i know :) but that was the only dissagreement i had with their list :) and myabe GTA as multiplayer i loved bf4 more :) but oh well like u said its the opinion :)

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DjStiv3
Sunday, January 05, 2014 @ 12:53:27 AM
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ethird1 is an idiot its not overrated its a masterpiece thats why so many wud rather it be left alone and nkt made into a sequel altho i wouldnt mind one.. id rather it be left alone too its too good visuals music charactors atmosphere gameplay story. the only thing it was missing is have another game mode like missions or something perhaps going from one area to another to recover an item like weapons or food bcz yur in the survival business right? and have enemiez you have to take out etc bcz multiplayer was neat but for third person multiplayer i doubt its everyones cup of tea.

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