Once Upon A Time, A Gamer's Waitress...
It's the return of my very personal "Once Upon A Time" series, due entirely to popular demand. For those of you who are unfamiliar, this began on a sudden whim late last year, when I decided to trust our excellent community with the retelling of a personal experience that I thought would be interesting. The response was amazing, so I continued it, and most of you probably know what came of it...quite the little adventure, but things have been quiet since.
So I was talking to Arnold last week, and I brought up the question of age regarding relationships. You guys will have to help me out too with your own opinions (what, you think I do this just for you?), so feel free to speak your mind. The reason I presented the question is because, now that I'm over 30, I'm starting to consider age difference for the first time in my life. So perhaps you may be asking, what prompted the consideration in the first place? Well, it stands to reason that if I go where most single people hang out (bars, clubs, etc.), I will typically find females that are a good deal younger than me. Now, I don't have any issue whatsoever with ladies in their mid-20s (uh, how could I?), but might they have an issue with me? I'm a man...I can handle bad news, so let it fly, if you must.
For the record, my last girlfriend - yep, the unwitting star of my previous editorial series - was only 24, so clearly, it's not an issue for every girl. But I'm starting to talk to girls where 30 is pretty much their "limit," and it's starting to worry me... It concerns me because when I encounter a supremely cute waitress who can't possibly be any older than 21 or 22, I balk at the romantic request. The good news is I've never really had any difficulty talking to women; that's not bragging, because a lot of times, I don't have enough sense to realize when I'm making a fool out of myself. But I never worry about talking to any of them, no matter how hot or supposedly intimidating they may be. What's the worst that can happen? Yeah, I make a fool of myself...oooooh, no, whatever am I going to do? Go home and hang myself? Really, who cares?
But for the first time, I hesitate talking to this girl, and it's entirely due to the age thing. Arnold tells me I'm over-thinking it - as I tend to do - and he's good at simplifying the issue to the point where I realize I should laugh at my overly complicated methods. But really, age does factor in somehow...doesn't it? It has to. Maybe it only alters what I have to say in regards to the opening line and first conversation. Maybe she wouldn't even guess that I'm that much older than her. Look, I've done this enough where I know for a fact that 32-year-old women and 22-year-old are very, very different, and you can't treat them both the same way. Thankfully, I've talked to enough where I have some experience with many ages, but now that I'm the one considering an age barrier...well, it's kinda freaking me out.
I'm human, not a demigod. No matter how much I've always wanted to be a character like Cloud (yep, still a nerd), I'm really not. LOL
2/21/2009 Ben Dutka
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LegendaryWolfeh
Saturday, February 21, 2009 @ 11:30:51 PM
bigrailer19
Saturday, February 21, 2009 @ 11:48:13 PM
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can i get back to my ps3 now! ;)
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Dridion
Saturday, February 21, 2009 @ 11:49:49 PM
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http://gear.ign.com/articles/955/955499c.html#comments_top?p=5&s=ASC
and sites/posts like these:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/88145-PS3-Is-Dying-On-The-Shelves
that truly piss me off. WTF is wrong with the gaming community. Its as if the world was dominated by the xbot fanboys. These reasons made me, realize over the weekend, that it's true and ign is, most definitely, getting more gayer by the second. Every site except this one seems to down sony for unlegit reasons. What I can't seem to realize is WHY? Call me fanboy, but this is totally unacceptable. I just want to be the one to bask in the ambiance (with you all XD) of sony's triumphant comeback, as it's starting to happen already, so I can laugh in the faces of all the traitors who abandon Sony (that goes for the guys at ign as well). I have officialy made this site my home being that all the members here seem to have a brain and there isn't any place purer where you can find information at. Well enough of the rants. This was a little extreme. TO PSXEXTREME!!! FTW!!!
Banky A
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 12:38:53 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 11:12:46 PM
Joe_III
Monday, February 23, 2009 @ 1:14:16 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, February 23, 2009 @ 2:52:49 PM
Aftab
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 4:58:44 AM
Aftab
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 5:02:57 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 11:14:07 PM
Aftab
Monday, February 23, 2009 @ 10:05:28 PM
Aftab
Monday, February 23, 2009 @ 10:29:31 PM
ArnoldK PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 1:15:41 AM
This is why it's considered a faux-pas for someone in their early 30s to date someone in their early 20s. But it's not a faux-pas when those numbers are 40 and 30. The playing field eventually levels out considerably the older you get - there's simply too large of a wisdom gap between a 20 year old, and a 30 year old.
Phoelix
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 3:47:49 AM
My girlfriend is about 3 months younger than me, so I'm right on the money. I think relationships are best whenever both parties grow together. I think this happens most often when the two halves are roughly on the same chapter of their lives.
However, I'm a believer that love can cross all boundaries. I don't there should be any hard-and-fast rules (other than the obvious respect of the other party, etc.) when it comes to a romantic relationship.
I would definitely look for someone else who's in the same milestone of life. Then again, sometimes the harder we look, the less likely we are to find.
Aftab
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 5:37:30 AM
Troy Powers
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 8:45:36 AM
aaronisbla
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 12:32:53 PM
Ben at your age you can probably get more action from the 21yrs and slightly older crowd with no problems, they tend to go for older guys, you would be surprised. Weddings, church ( if thats your kinda thing ), parks, grocery stores amongst others are also good places to meet some. Gotta love a women who wants to eat healthy, i see so many of them in the produce section at grocery stores
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, February 23, 2009 @ 12:35:25 AM
I'm a firm believer in that. It's why I don't look so often...and no, it's not a dodge. LOL ;)
Troy: I'd rather not have a woman who needs "guidance." I really can't stand that. I want someone who is secure in who they are, who doesn't need constant advice and vindication; I just love firm independence in a woman. You know?
aaron: Well, yes and no. I do tend to get a lot of attention from the 21-year-olds, but it's typically only for one reason. ...not that that's a BAD thing, per se; I'm just saying. :)
laxpro2001
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 1:35:42 AM
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Anyways on topic... I do feel to most people age makes a difference. One of my friends asked me how old I would consider (me being 19) and at first I said 32... but after her reaction and some thinking I realized that I wanna grow old with this person (not the only reason of course) I'm going to have to aim lower.
I ended up setting 24-25 as my limit.
Also Ben... when you say you are a nerd for liking Cloud, I think you are mistaken. A nerd is someone who is extremely smart, while a geek is someone who is really into the videogames and what not.
Not saying you can't be both though as it seems like you are ;)
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, February 23, 2009 @ 12:38:10 AM
Ultimadesires
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 2:43:38 AM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 11:18:15 PM
Aerifale
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 4:21:38 AM
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plus i seem to have a problem where i end up being stuck in the "just a friend" stage *sigh*
guess i shudn't get too down, around here u basically get the girl for the nite an move on next day (i just realised how bad that sounds lol) thankfully gaming has become very mainstream now (at least here anyway) saying i'm a gamer seems to just pass over as girls head. is it the same for u guys or do they still refer to gaming as a hobby for nerds? :)
Godslim
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 4:48:55 AM
Aftab
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 5:28:09 AM
Aftab
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 5:34:25 AM
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The Stig
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 4:48:43 AM
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Im The Man
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 11:53:22 AM
aaronisbla
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 12:35:30 PM
The Stig
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 4:29:32 PM
Im The Man
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 4:50:59 PM
www
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 4:59:43 AM
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YES!!!.....that's just me.I don't give a crap whatever happens when i approach a girl,whether am humiliated,snobbed or not,i don't give a sh**!
Aftab
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 5:48:01 AM
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You don't want to get stuck "baby sitting", at the same time, too old is not good for biology. But either way, numerical age shouldn't be too much of a criteria, as maturity or readiness is a hard thing to actually measure.
Aftab
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 6:05:04 AM
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Random_Steve
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 10:30:23 AM
www
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 3:19:03 PM
Sir Shak
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 5:39:58 PM
Aftab
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 9:42:10 PM
Sir Shak
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 10:25:29 PM
Sir Shak
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 11:31:08 PM
Aftab
Monday, February 23, 2009 @ 11:34:23 PM
Troy Powers
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 8:40:24 AM
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TL:DR - Age isn't a factor to any woman that's worth dealing with anyway. It's all about how you make her feel.
Troy Powers
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 9:25:42 AM
In my defense, last year I did date briefly one woman who was 27, and another who was 32. So, I will break that rule for women who seem to be really cool. But, I've regretted the last two times I broke it, thus my current "absolute refusal," which, admittedly, probably isn't so absolute.
But, you get my meaning.
Aftab
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 12:02:17 PM
Im The Man
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 12:38:11 PM
moose88
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 6:54:33 PM
Around here we say, "You're only as old as the women you feel!"
But now I have 2 daughters ... note to self: Join the local gun club ;)
Anyhoo, I married the girls of my dreams and she's 8 years younger than me and we're a perfect match.
Ben, when it comes to age, just go with the song from The Sound of Music: "...You need someone older and wiser, telling you what to doooo!" hehe
Aftab
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 7:05:34 PM
Troy Powers
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 7:29:34 PM
I was married for a little while. It was cool. Not to say that I wouldn't do it again, but it's not high on my list of priorities. If I meet (spelled it right this time) a woman that's friggin' spectacular and we hit it off, sure, I'd do it again. Until then, it's the single life for me.
But, I'm guessing if I had never been married, it'd be higher on my "to do" list.
chaosrunner
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 8:42:01 AM
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HighLife
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 9:06:25 AM
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I had dated women with various ages and for the most part it was all fun, but you do different things with a 20 yo than you do with a 40 yo.
Good Luck and keep your eyes open you never know where you may meet the right woman. Just try not to be the male version of Anna Nichole.
mastiffchild
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 9:24:50 AM
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I know people say that age is only a number and I'm very lucky to look much younger than I am and haven't yet started even thinking about baldness but to have a rough guide is priceless. People, trust me, look at men with women much younger than them as perverts of some kind whatever the situation that led to you getting together.
Over 30 means little(neither does over 40, as long as you stick to my simple rule!
GuernicaReborn
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 10:25:59 AM
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All I can tell you is that you can't let an age difference bother you. Each and every girl is different, and you all you need to do is find out if she's interested or not. If a girl likes you, she likes you, age won't make a difference to her. Therefore, it shouldn't matter to you either.
Robochic
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 11:23:19 AM
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I think girls are just not seeing Ben for you, keep you're eyes wide open it wil be funny where you meet the right woman.
www
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 3:35:36 PM
ps92117
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 9:37:36 PM
Sir Shak
Monday, February 23, 2009 @ 12:08:38 AM
King James
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 11:57:39 AM
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Anyways, of course the age factor does come into to play with women, but I think its no different from religion, race, nationality, etc. They can all be easily overshadowed by YOU.
If Jay-Z can do it, you can to.
www
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 3:33:09 PM
I bet if another star was to approach Beyonce first n shown all the luv,that star coulda won her a long time ago.
Beyonce's situation is that kind of situation where a girl is soooo pretty,all the guys are scared to approach n one brave guy steps up and asks her out,and he wins regardless if he's broke & ugly.....cause he came first.
Seriously how many stars approached Beyonce?
Troy Powers
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 6:44:01 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 11:37:56 PM
Reccaman18
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 1:43:24 PM
www
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 3:39:33 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 11:38:44 PM
tlpn99
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 2:54:01 PM
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If you can't post that, is there any chance Arnold could post his personal gaming update or John even lol ?
Like today for instance, I had 5 mins to boot up my PC and log onto something on the net as I was due out and thought I'll read ben's week in review later. So I downloaded my e mails, deleted what was crap etc and kept the others to read for later on when I am back home etc.
Few hours later I come home to find no Bens week in review :(
Please post a personal game review if possible sometime during the week. Even if you just say nothing new to post guys I am still getting the etc levels on such and such a game.
I am sure one will be posted next week as Killzone 2 will be out then and Halo Wars if you are planning to play that.
This weekend for us in Uk was what Streetfighter 4 (which is getting traded in myself as I think it is crap to be honest and the Sega Megadrive Classics, which is being kept)
Cheers Ben for always keeping us informed :)
Last edited by tlpn99 on 2/22/2009 3:09:35 PM
www
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 3:16:01 PM
tlpn99
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 3:19:11 PM
tlpn99
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 3:16:51 PM
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If I see a girl I like in the bar I go up to her if I am interested and try to talk to her no cheesy lines, no cheesy stuff whatsoever. I am me and if no one likes that then tough lol.
By the way I am 34, be 35 in April. As long as your not being a T*t when out with your buds you can come away quite normal when approaching a girl etc. In reply to your question does age matter, then that would depend on the age of the girl your trying to talk/chat up to would be if you were my age and she turned out to be 16 then yeah your way over the age odds. If she is mid twenties and your mid thirties then thats fine go for it!
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Alienange
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 3:23:20 PM
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karneli lll
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 5:33:37 PM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, February 23, 2009 @ 3:23:33 PM
Dridion
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 5:33:53 PM
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N a S a H
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 6:52:50 PM
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LightShow
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 7:54:15 PM
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it's not like worrying about if the girl has an issue with your age will change her stance on it; if she thinks you're too old, shes gonna reject you whether or not you get all bent outta shape wondering if she will
Shatterday
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 8:00:06 PM
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Anyway! Age is sometimes an issue. Although there are a lot of people who have strict age limits it's not always personal preference. I'm only 19 and the oldest girl who I hang out with and talk to regularly is 22, just to put things into perspective. A lot of girls I've known are afraid of older guys because of past experiences and how they were kind of brought up to stay away from stangers and... well, older dudes are creepy, right?
But as far as you having a problem with age, I think what you really need to work on is being a good judge of maturity.
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, February 23, 2009 @ 1:01:21 AM
Sir Shak
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 10:28:40 PM
Orvisman
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 9:44:46 PM
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Until I married my wife (going on two years this May, together for four years), who is 12 years my junior (she was 26 when we married, I was 38; when we met she was 24 and I was 36), I dated women as young as 21 and as old as 30, so I never experienced any age barrier.
I guess that it doesn't hurt that I look much younger and that I take care of myself and exercise regularly. Most people assume I'm 28-30.
The two previous ladies I dated were:
A 21-year-old NYU journalism student in the U.S. from Brazil, who I met when she was the coat-check girl at a local Italian Bistro in my town; and
A 26-year-old Irish lass who I met at the Midtown Manhattan office of the New York Newspaper Guild when I was there for contract negotiations (I'm an executive officer of my company's NYNPG unit council, think shop steward.).
Fortunately, I had/have a lot in common with all three.
Besides, it is common knowledge that women mature at an earlier age than us guys Ben. So, your being older would just put you on equal footing with a younger honey! ;)
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, February 23, 2009 @ 1:00:34 AM
somethingrandom
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 11:25:12 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 11:29:33 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, February 22, 2009 @ 11:33:17 PM
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As for the Week in Review, don't worry, that'll be back next week. If I do "Once Upon A Time" pieces in the future, they'll be on Friday nights; the Week in Review will always be up for Sunday. :)

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