Editorial: Casual Dating Confusion
Maybe it's because I spent the vast majority of my college days playing RPGs (22 in 4 years, baby). Maybe it's because my work and lifestyle hasn't really had room for long-term relationships (that, and my brain has difficulty finding room for them). Or maybe it's just because this situation really is as weird as it sounds. All I know is, I remember hanging up the phone with Ms. Courtney, sitting back in my chair, staring out the window, saying: "...well, this is new.
I don't pretend to be an expert on much of anything besides video games. I really don't. I've got some sports knowledge, I love to read so I've read many of the literary classics, I play a little tennis, I'm a pretty good speaker, and I suppose I have a basic, working knowledge of the opposite sex. But this is well beyond me. If you're coming late to the party, you're going to have to check the last few installments in this mini-saga of mine; this isn't like a "To Be Continued..." TV show where I can remind everyone of last week's production with a quick set of snippets. So go ahead and catch up, but if you're already caught up, read on. Now, as far as I can tell, the world may be playing some sort of colossal, cosmic trick on me, although it seems highly unlikely. What exactly did I do to invite the wrath of the heavens? Is it because I don't believe in astrology? Or just 'cuz the very concept of space baffles me no end? There must be a reason.
So: Ms. Courtney did indeed know about Ms. Amy calling me, but played it off like she didn't...at first. Then she told me she did. I ask why. She says it's because they both find me interesting. I say something like, "...what?" Ms. Courtney says she doesn't really want to talk about it, and yet, we should definitely go out tomorrow night and talk about it then. I ask if Ms. Amy is going to pose a problem and if the two "friends" aren't so friendly. She says she doesn't want to talk about it. Ms. Amy, on the other hand, is quite willing to talk about it. Apparently, it was her idea. The two had talked about it and they figured maybe the only fair way to resolve the issue was for each of them to spend a little time with me, just to see who "fit" better. Originally, I was never supposed to know...although how they expected me to date them both without ever asking any questions whatsoever is, as I said, beyond me. They said neither would hold a grudge provided both kept things casual.
At this point, am I allowed to say, "WTF is going on?" Or would that be the words of the uninitiated? Does this happen often in the dating world? I wouldn't know; it's why I'm asking. The only good news is that, apparently, this entire thing is up to me; whomever I feel more comfortable with; whichever of the two women "fit" me better, I can just choose her and the other will back off. Their agreement is that when this happens, there will be no bad feelings anywhere. But really...how long can I keep spending time with both before one of them starts to get pissed? Seriously? They say there's no time limit and that is the biggest lie I've ever heard. It may, however, be a white lie, simply stated so I wouldn't feel any pressure. It didn't work. I suppose I can deal with this but I have a baaaaad feeling. It's like wandering through a bunch of very bland hallways - no way to find your direction; nothing on the walls, etc. - and there are invisible trip wires around every turn. It's a little nerve-wracking. Or maybe I should just relax and do whatever...sex, I have learned, is part of the trial equation.
Yeah. Like that won't cause any problems. 'rolling eyes' Okay, I'm done. Oh, I chose that pic because it kinda looks a little like Ms. Amy.
5/8/2009 Ben Dutka
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somethingrandom
Sunday, May 10, 2009 @ 10:46:25 PM
Zaben
Friday, May 08, 2009 @ 10:37:16 PM
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kevinater321
Friday, May 08, 2009 @ 10:38:05 PM
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Scarecrow
Friday, May 08, 2009 @ 11:04:41 PM
GuernicaReborn
Friday, May 08, 2009 @ 10:54:59 PM
Nerull
Friday, May 08, 2009 @ 10:44:39 PM
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That's a few steps down of whining about not knowing what car to buy after winning a lottery.
It does seem a bit odd though. I don't think 2 male friends would ever do this sort of thing, not when 1 had already been dating her for a while anyway.
jaybiv
Friday, May 08, 2009 @ 10:49:38 PM
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Scarecrow
Friday, May 08, 2009 @ 11:03:43 PM
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I don't know what to tell you Ben
On one hand I'd say "man you're a lucky dude." I'd love for two babes to be that into me to say "you can choose." haha that't awesome
The bad part is that they're friends and one will ultimately feel bad/sad.
Well if anything have fun *grins*
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, May 08, 2009 @ 11:16:45 PM
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GuernicaReborn
Friday, May 08, 2009 @ 11:54:50 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 9:18:04 AM
BikerSaint
Friday, May 08, 2009 @ 11:26:22 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 12:04:03 AM
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You are FARCKED, old man. You're done, broke, busted go to bed, take a pillow and a long sleep. As horrible and shortly as i've been involved in female relations, i know a bit. I was the last and only guy to tell you this was no "test". You can't come out of this alive. If you wanna be a pigman you can pick one for physical relations periodically, but you are gonna fall from any kind of grace if you try to have both or be "King" of this kind of sh*t.
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 4:59:03 PM
fluffernutter
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 12:11:53 AM
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Whatever you decide, Ben... it can only end in you being physically satisfied and the girls not making much sense through any of this. Think about it. If you're already analyzing all of this, and thinking of which would be the proper "steps" to take, it is way too much work for what the end result will be. As a wise old fisherman, at the end of an uneventful day, once said, "There are plenty more fish in the sea."
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 5:00:28 PM
pyrobomber70
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 12:39:59 AM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 5:01:06 PM
kevinater321
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 7:38:12 AM
WolfCrimson
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 1:20:23 AM
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Go for either both, or neither. All or nothing.
Really, do they expect you to walk out unscathed from this, those inconsiderate women?! (not saying all women are inconsiderate, just those 2)
So, here what you can do. You can go for the "all" option, that is, be as inconsiderate as them, and if they get surprised, tell them "what did you expect? you brought this upon yourselves". Although, you don't seem to be that kind of person, Ben.
OR
You can opt for the "nothing" option, which I advise, and say "Sorry, I can't do this. You think I'm gonna choose one of you? When BOTH of you agreed to put me through this? No thanks, I'm looking for considerate, nice women." (rephrase as required)
BTW, this is just my opinion, if you choose to follow it, you take full responsibility, alright? You're free to do whatever you want, m8, so good luck with whatever choice you make.
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 5:02:42 PM
I dunno. I may just be rambling. LOL
LegendaryWolfeh
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 1:28:45 AM
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YesterdysRising
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 1:50:31 AM
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migabyte
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 3:21:13 AM
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GamerKid123
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 3:22:36 AM
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Aerifale
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 5:26:06 AM
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Thankfully it wasn't that hard to resolve as one of the girls was obviously only in it for one thing (won't say it as there may be young ones reading)
The other however really cared about me. Safe to say we've just started to take things seriously and so far things are going well :)
Don't worry Ben, just follow your instincts and keep a level head. You'll be just fine.
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 5:03:20 PM
DarthNemesis
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 6:23:41 AM
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kevinater321
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 7:24:47 AM
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Deadman
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 7:44:32 AM
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Or lol maybe you found the two out there that arent emotionally insane that you can do this with and everything will just workout for the best in the end with rainbows and kittens.
You are already in too deep just remember dont get greedy.
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 5:04:41 PM
robinhood2010
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 8:16:07 AM
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Troy Powers
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 2:59:51 PM
rcrodgers
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 8:31:28 AM
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Surely there's another path (woman) to the goal (a good relationship); just because you have two choices right now doesn't mean you have to take either.
Riku994
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 9:15:28 AM
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www
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 9:21:43 AM
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Ben,you're in a dilemma,i sense that you like'em both.
At first you sounded like Ms. Courtney was ya choice now look at you putting up a Ms. Amy look-alike pic,i know this situation,you like'em both but you don't wanna hurt any one of'em but still you know you'd have to go with one.
Ben,i sense you eyeing Ms.Amy, at the same time you feel Ms. Courtney came first so it just wouldn't be fair.
Anyway i leave you in ya dilemma.
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 5:06:05 PM
piratedrunk
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 10:20:37 AM
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MadKatBebop
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 11:42:47 AM
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rowdy
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 12:07:22 PM
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One of the things that I don't get is that apparantly space is still expanding but at a decreasing rate because of gravity and eventually it will stop expanding at start coming back the other way until it implodes and there is another big bang.
Some of the s*** that these astronomers spit out is just beyond me at the moment but if you spend enough time thinking about it, it kind of makes sense.
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 5:08:00 PM
Robochic
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 2:40:06 PM
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All i know nothing good could come out of this, I'm a girl and i know how girls get extremely competive especially for a man attention. All i know u better pick one fast or the whole thing could BLOW up in u're face. BTW if u have sex with them let me tell u they will talk.....
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 5:07:25 PM
Diggity Dan
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 3:27:45 PM
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mastiffchild
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 3:35:45 PM
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Plus, if they're both willing to take this to the bedroom(and not in the "we're really cool lets all go together" fashion but seperately)just how cheap are you going to feel when you have to choose-and you will have to and it'll make this all seem way more important than it is.
What a dramatic pair you've seduced Dutka-I'm, just not sure about anyone who could easily allow you to sleep with their mate. Just how deep(and oddly mixed up) are their feelings. Walk I say!
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 5:06:55 PM
Powershifter
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 5:00:11 PM
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WNDRTWN1
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 6:14:14 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 8:13:01 PM
Suapsycho
Tuesday, May 12, 2009 @ 7:14:36 AM
CH1N00K
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 9:30:44 PM
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Just kidding, You've got an interesting problem that's for sure. One that a lot of guys dream about being in...until you get in it then you realize that the fantasy is better then the reality of it..lol
I wish I had some words of wisdom to hand on to you, but I've screwed up more situations before I finally got it right. No matter what you decide, either way you're screwed...that could be good, or that could be very bad...lol
Reccaman18
Saturday, May 09, 2009 @ 10:30:33 PM
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King James
Sunday, May 10, 2009 @ 12:42:19 AM
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The best and most logical move is also the simplest, which is leave them both alone...*sighs* but we all know, Ben, that no one EVER does that.
We already know what you're gonna do. Whoever intrigues you the most will get chosen. You'll slowly neglect the other until, the three of y'all all know who you favor. But you'll play it cool and let whatever happens happen.
Since these women seem to know each other extremely well...I'd say stay as transparent as possible.
We'll see how this pans out. I doubt it will get messy, well maybe a lil' dirty.
Good Luck, Mr. Dutka ;)
Last edited by King James on 5/10/2009 12:43:12 AM
Ultimate_Balla
Sunday, May 10, 2009 @ 7:33:49 AM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, May 10, 2009 @ 11:37:32 PM
Skatejimmy5
Sunday, May 10, 2009 @ 12:26:55 PM
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fluffernutter
Sunday, May 10, 2009 @ 1:28:11 PM
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SkantDragon
Sunday, May 10, 2009 @ 1:55:06 PM
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Lots of doom and gloom among the responses. Don't give in to that. The sort of thing you're describing can and does happen. And how it will play out depends on the people involved.
Yes, it could blow up. But so could any relationship.
Yes, it's getting complicated. But that's par for the course for any close relationship.
I think my best advice is to stick to your guns. Be honest and open. Any relationship has to go both ways. If either or both of them are making you feel uncomfortable with the relationship, it's up to them to show they give a damn about you, too.
Don't feel like you need to bend over backwards. We're generally taught that you have to do anything and everything to get a girl. And that's unhealthy. Any real relationship is bidirectional.
A lot of the responses you've received make huge assumptions about the girls involved. If they are stereotypical, then yes. One of them is going to end up being disappointed and possibly scornfully so until she finds someone else. But then again, maybe not. Maybe it will work out just how they say. Or maybe they'd even be comfortable with both of them playing with you. That's not just a playboy magazine fantasy, you know. I'm in such an arrangement myself.
Every relationship is unique. It doesn't have to and all too often doesn't follow a 'typical' pattern.
Hang on. Stick to your principles. Try not to panic.
And see where the rabbit hole goes.
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, May 10, 2009 @ 11:19:40 PM
sunspider13
Sunday, May 10, 2009 @ 10:45:34 PM
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OriginalSin
Monday, May 11, 2009 @ 3:27:05 AM
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Yeah it is quite a predicament you're in. I'd take them to their word. See both for a while and really see which one is the best fit. Either way it will be a difficult decision in the end, so you might as well enjoy the ride while it lasts.
I know what I would do, but it will probably be the least "moral" thing to do. But situations like this don't present themselves to everyone. In my case it happened more than once and none of them had pleasant repercussions. But it was however worth it...
There are 3 options to go with. Each with it's own consequences. I think it's easy to imagine what the different ones are. Now the question is which outcome with be worth it?
shadowscorpio
Monday, May 11, 2009 @ 11:36:16 AM
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