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PlayStation 3 Hits Stride, Xbox 360 Standing Still

Yes, I know. I work for PSX Extreme so "of course" I'd say this. I'm not even going to dignify that with an explanation, but let's just say that anyone who knows me realizes that after a quarter-century of gaming, I have little to no "brand loyalty." And by the way, I would've reversed this same title in favor of the 360 back in 2007 because it was just that obvious...just like this situation is equally obvious.

Let's be straight about this. When I walk into a game store, or when I survey the web every day for news, I keep an eye on anything related to either the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 'cuz I own both. I was one of the first to buy Gears of War 2 last year and I own all the Halos. I also really want a sequel to Lost Odyssey and I will literally jump for joy like a pansy if it ever gets announced. But throughout 2009, all I've seen in terms of software is domination by the PlayStation 3. The Wii is essentially non-existent this year in terms of games (like that's anything new) and besides a few choice selections - me wants Alan Wake, for instance - I see nothing all that pressing for the 360. This year, Killzone 2 has already rocked my socks and inFamous is another fantastic addition to the PS3 exclusive lineup. Oh, and did you see all that new gameplay footage for Heavy Rain? It may not be as impressive as Uncharted 2: Among Thieves, but it took my breath away in a whole different way...

Oh yes, Uncharted 2 is gonna blow you away, as will MAG. Then, I realize I've been complaining about the lack of RPGs on the PS3, but perhaps that time is over. Disregarding the FFs that are coming, there's also the recent announcements of Demon's Souls (coming to US; yay!), White Knight Chronicles and Last Rebellion, along with this week's release of Cross Edge. We also can't forget Gran Turismo 5 looming out there in the future, and we can pretty much guarantee that Insomniac is cooking up another winner in Ratchet and Clank Future: A Crack in Time. God of War III will just...you know...BLOW THE EFF UP. Then you've got whatever Kojima is working on, which is most likely another PS3 exclusive (just a guess) and at this point, can we come to any other conclusion? Seriously? I look for 360 games all the time. I really do. I look at the upcoming release list just about every day to see if I can spot something I really want. I see a few, but none come even close to the potential excellence of the titles I've just listed, and that's that.

The PS3 may be in the single best position it has ever been in, especially with rumors of a price drop and/or redesign on the way. And I'm well aware that all the 360 fans will just toss a horde of sales numbers in my face, but that's just because they know - deep down in their bitter, uncompromising hearts - that the PS3's current and future exclusive lineup vastly outstrips the competition. This is about software, and software will eventually push hardware sales when we're talking about exclusives. Bottom line? The PS3 is on a roll, and I just don't see the 360 doing much of anything. Such is, my friends. Such is.

5/27/2009 Ben Dutka

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Comments (96 posts)

chicko1983
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 @ 10:46:28 PM
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"Then you've got whatever Kojima is working on, which is most likely another PS3 exclusive (just a guess)"

the DLC for MGS4 will be exclusive, I dont think his next full game will be.

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 @ 10:52:11 PM

And you based that on what?

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GuernicaReborn
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 @ 10:56:19 PM

Probably the same thing Ben based his prediction on, a guess.

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 @ 11:01:49 PM

Not really

Kojima has for more than decade talked 'bout how MGS fits best with the Playstation brand and how it's always the best move to have it under the PS.

That and him being a perfectionist/pushing the limits would not make sense to have it on that other console.

The only way it could happen is if Kojima himself doesn't work on MGS5

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godsman
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 @ 11:48:34 PM

I believe that the next MGS game will not be PS3 exclusive too... if Kojima wont take part of it. That is until I read the Kotaku article about an interview that confirms Kojima taking charge of the next Metal Gear game. He definitely won't turn it multi-platform like Square-Enix and reduce the quality of the game.

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wasim
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 1:26:39 AM

Next MGS will be a PS3 exclusive

honestly x360 is just finished. It has no games and as soon as PS3 hits 299$ it will be all over for x360. even at 200$ x360 is teh least selling console in the world

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 @ 10:59:20 PM
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Add White Knight Chronicles to the jrpg department.

@E3 Sony will more than likely put forth more exclusives than Microsoft. That alone is a big thing when you think 'bout it.

And what 'bout Trico? That might come out early next year.

Playstation doesn't play around, at the end of the day they have they have the longest run, they stay in the game longer, and the deliver more.

SCEE has become such a powerhouse for Sony. You combine that with how amazing SCEA already is and then add what SCEJ is capable of and you really have force which will crush any other console.

The 360 is entering Dreamcast status, where it ran out of life early. The 360 just like the Dreamcast was something that amazed gamers early on, it was like the first console to make the jump. 360 does have a better start than the Dreamcast, but the situation's the same.

Dreamcast was really a beefed up Nintendo 64
Just like 360 is a beefed up Xbox

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b3mike
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 @ 11:05:06 PM

Cosmetically speaking, the 360 is a ripoff of the Sega Dreamcast. Just look at the controller!

Anyhow,

Dreamcast>Xbox

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 @ 11:09:13 PM

Sheesh...how could I forget WKC?

Added. :)

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Hexen
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 @ 11:10:14 PM

Don't compare the revolutionary Dreamcast to the cheap N64; you're insulting a system that can do most of what the wii can do now.As for the 360 it really is a beefed up xbox if you take a look at what the 360 and xbox can do it's basically the same.

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xnonsuchx
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 5:59:45 AM

Sorry, JD...I may own a PS3 and refuse to give M$ any of my money, but the 360 is a FAR better machine than the original Xbox was...not just a somewhat souped up one.

I also wish Ben would quit complaining about flamewars when the article titles often seem driven to incite them.

Be a fan, but don't be a mindless 'fanboy.'

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 10:25:44 AM

The article titles are my own and only serve the purpose of the article. I have no control over what people will do with them, nor do I care.

I really, REALLY don't care.

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ace_boon_coon
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 2:26:56 PM

onluy problem is dreamcast had way more kick ass games than the 360

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AnonymousPoster
Saturday, May 30, 2009 @ 2:35:13 AM

Most people talking about the Dreamcast really have no idea why it failed. The prime reasons were 1) Constant new hardware releases from Sega (32X, CD, Saturn) with little software support made people wary of the brand, and 2) PlayStation was such a player at the time that people would rather have nothing and wait for a PS2 than go with another console. Sega couldn't give them away by the end, and they actually did try that.

The Dreamcast itself was an extremely solid console, with Sega getting serious after years of flopping around, but they had dug their own grave at that point, and the timing next to PS2 didn't help anything.

Neither 360 or PS3 are comparable to the Dreamcast's situation.

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b3mike
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 @ 11:00:32 PM
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The tables have turned on the Xbots, now they are the ones who "have no games"

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 @ 11:05:48 PM

*victory rpg dance*

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wasim
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 1:31:39 AM

well x360 is also the least selling console in the world
April global sales
PS3 - 235k (127k in US and 108k in Japan)
X360 - 202k (175k in US and 27k in Japan)

x360 is finished fully when PS3 hits 299$

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Turbey
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 5:48:58 AM

You really don`t like MS or the Xbots do you? :P Haha! Neither do I really...

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faraga
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 11:49:06 AM

wasim, US + Japan =/= the world, you forgot Europe, and some other countries like Australia, but anyways, the order will be about the same

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SarahPalinMILF
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 @ 11:03:53 PM
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Ben, what are your thoughts on the rumors that COD7 will be set in Vietnam...just wondering

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 @ 11:07:37 PM

Fine by me. I think we can always use a different environment, and Vietnam is an oft-ignored setting.

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karneli lll
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 2:07:31 AM

They need a new engine though, have you seen mordern warfare 2 trailers? same script, different cast.That's something i'd expect from epic

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CH1N00K
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 9:38:50 AM

Vietnam can be a bit of a hard sell for some. Although I would love a game done like Apocalypse now, Platoon or Full Metal Jacket.
(Or more recently, Tunnel Rats)

That and you're key market will be to North America, as that war was mostly the States against Vietnam. And from the marketing side of things, selling a game about a war that the states lost? It's a bit of a gamble. Most of us won't really care as long as it's a solid game, but for some..it's still a hard pill to swallow and that could affect sales.

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migabyte
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 @ 11:08:11 PM
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Ben you say the wii isn't doing anything. I don't own a wii, but when I look at metacritic it is looking stronger than ever lately. Punchout, bloomblox (or whatever it's called), a a few others. Kind makes me want one, but I won't get one.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 @ 11:08:58 PM

Fair enough.

...but compare any and all of those games to the games I listed above. ;)

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Thrill Kill
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 8:16:17 AM

this coming from a guy dressed up as a tellatubby

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CH1N00K
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 9:40:20 AM

I got to admit when I saw the Punchout add, I was a little intrigued...I used to love that game on the original NES. But not intrigued enough to go buy it.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 10:28:27 AM

My point exactly.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 @ 11:37:00 PM
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Gotta feel bad for the 360-only guys.

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Sir Shak
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 @ 11:47:34 PM
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Ben, you are going to receive a lot of criticism for this article . Not from non PS3 owners but from us PS3 owners who are being enticed to start stealing . :)

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NonProphet
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 @ 11:49:24 PM
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yeah, i have a 360 and ps3 and right now the only games I'm psyched for are for the PS3.

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Lord carlos
Wednesday, May 27, 2009 @ 11:56:23 PM
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My xbox1 gets more attention than my 360 which gathers dust in my closet,it makes horrible sounds.

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godsman
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 12:08:54 AM
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*sigh* poor PS3 owners... we will have such a hard time this holiday choosing between so many great games to buy. Xbox owners are so fortunate they don't have to deal with this headache, they only have a couple good games this year. They are so lucky.

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tes37
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 12:19:27 AM
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This is the year that the PS3 will devastate my wallet, and next year I hope they do the same thing.

Xbox owners deserve better than what they're getting, hopefully they won't let Bill Gates trample on their loyalty too much longer.

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Qubex
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 12:26:10 AM

Remember, if you are prepared to buy pre-owned games, ones that have been looked after, your wallet should be fine... you could get most of the new games 2-3 months after release for 25 to 35 dollars less; just wait a little.

Just beat the retail system at its own game... no pun intended!

Q!

"i am home"

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tes37
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 6:07:28 AM

Used can be good too, but only from individuals. I won't buy used from places like gamestop because they only offer like $10 or $20 for peoples games and turn around and sell them for $5 below brand new cost.

I bought 6 titles last month, each below $20 and new factory sealed. Games like inFamous are gonna always be day one purchases for me, though.



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Fane1024
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 4:12:50 PM

@ Qubex

If you're willing to wait a few more months, they don't even have to be used games to get a discount.

That's what I do; for instance, I just started playing BioShock ($20) and I'll get Fallout 3 when the GOTY edition drops. Q: How does it diminish my play experience that I waited 9 months? A: Not at all.

Cheap bastards unite!

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Deleted User
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 12:31:47 AM
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At least we PS3 owners will play all these big games coming out; Xbots buy all their big games and yet they spend more time making life miserable for Ben than playing them.

I'm still buying a Wii next month for the exclusive Nintendo games like Punch-Out!! but all the big games this year I'm pining for are on the PS3.

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rezenu
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 12:39:20 AM
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Sony is like freakin' Rambo. They're coming in packed, loaded, and ready to rumble. It's awesome being a PS3 owner and the haters need to put aside their hatred and play some games.

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Fatcat3788
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 2:06:20 AM
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Well the prospect of going to go buy an Xbox has finally been buried in my case. I just built a computer which means I basically get any game that goes to the Xbox on the computer. The only exclusives I really want from Xbox anyway are Mass Effect 1 and 2 and I will be getting those when the 2nd one comes out. Hurray for Bioware!

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BikerSaint
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 2:34:05 AM
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2009, the year is yours, PS3!!!!!


"Lock & Load", you "big-game" hunter!

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mastiffchild
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 3:28:05 AM
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Of what's been announced it's very hard to argue about which console has the best 09/10 exclusive line up.

However, I think you might have to give MS and the 360 more credit post E3 and writng it's obit the week before E3 could bite you on the bum , Ben. MS could well announce exclusives from Rare(two), Epic(possibly two again -Nano Strike plus one), Lionhead, Valve and MW, no?

Add in ODST, AW and more and it doesn't look quite so shabby-Forza3 will likely beat GT5 to market as well. Itagaki has a 360 game to promote too, doesn't he?

I'm not saying that Sony haven't got EVEN more to tell us about(they will have- not even half of the Sony friendly/controlled studios have told us exactly what their projects are)and we might even see more of Trico or hear when/if the R* PS3 exclusive is coming. What I do think , though, is that ight now was a risky moment to be writing MS off considering that last year the world declared theirs the best E3 showing merely on the strength of hooking a mp version of FF13 alone.

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HOODGE
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 4:16:31 AM

Mastiffchild it is odd tho that Microsoft was thought of as having a better E3 last year when all they really had to gloat about was Gears of War 2 and FF which is multiplatform anyway. Oh they also had Lips (Yippee), and Your in the movies (Yawn) which were lame exclusives. Then they had Capcom on stage to discuss Resident Evil 5 which is multiplat. And last but not least they had announced the new Xbox Live Experience Dashboard which in my opinion being a 360 owner as well is a lag fest, freeze up pain in the butt. I liked the old dashboard performance better.

Now last E3 for Sony's side was way more entertaining. Way more meat on the bone.

They had LBP, and Resistance 2 for exclusives that eclipsed Gears 2 in my opinion. They showed off a bit of MAG to wet everyones appetite. Showed the massive online version of the upcoming DC Universe Online, etc, etc.

Really if you watched both of the companies Keynote addresses, Microsoft had not much to gloat about and Sony had the more robust conference in terms of stage, product, and length of presentation. And really I see another lackluster E3 year again for Microsoft compared to all the amazing list of exclusives Sony will have to show. Just God of War 3 by itself would blow away anything Microsoft had to show if that was all Sony had to show.

So I agree with Ben, that the well is drying up for Microsoft, whereas the well is flooding over for Sony.

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mastiffchild
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 12:08:52 PM

I agree entirely that Sony were more impressive last year at E3-in real terms they had way more to show-that's part of my point though. Ben stands to get ridiculed if/when MS are JUDGED to have had another E3 "victory".

If all they needed was a game going multi last year for that to be the general media consensus(which is the one most prospective HD console owners will get to see/hear about)-then what if MS actually do roll out the games I mention plus more this year? I think you know what I mean.

For the general gaming press(western based at least) to loosen up on Sony they'll not only have to better what MS shows in terms of software-they'll have to give them the thing they crave most, a price cut and nothing less.

Us PS3 owners know the value but our console is still portrayed as the expensive alternative-and damn the out of the box features. Also , if Sony decide not to announce any of the games that we know must exist(but, again, lots of people not yet owning a current gen console won't have a clue)this E3 and concentrate on those already announced I doubt the wider opinion will be that Sony wowed at E3.

Mainly, though, (and away from the reality that Sony have to do way more than MS at E3 to be considered to have "won" there, or even competed)MS have kept their powder very dry and if there are big reveals from them I can see Ben being given a bit of stick. I own a 360 and a Wii besides my PS3(which is my preferred gaming machine)but , still, even if I didn't I'd want MS to compete as I strongly believe that when there's real competition between the exclusives on different platforms then the games we all get evolve far more quickly.

Would anyone really want the 360 to be done and dusted? If it's even part of the reason that KZ2 was made to shine so much(for E.G) then why should we?

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Deleted User
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 3:42:17 AM
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I agree with the PS3 having way better exclusives, but all these articles are starting to read the same. It always starts off with Ben giving 1000 reasons why he's not a fanboy...

Blah.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 10:27:20 AM

It's to prove a point. That no matter what is said, most people who don't normally visit here don't even read a word of the article; just the headline and the name of the site.

...the point is proven every single time.

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Deleted User [Administrator]
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 12:21:30 PM

Well maybe less articles about the same thing would be better, then maybe you wouldn't have to explain yourself every single time Ben.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 12:28:02 PM

Maybe if people would READ and realize it's never the "same thing every time," I wouldn't have to explain anything.

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Deleted User [Administrator]
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 2:56:33 PM

Ben, of course it's not the SAME thing every time. But it's very similar. Do we really need an article about why the PS3 is getting better than the 360 every week? You know exactly what I'm talking about.

I know any topic about the console war gets reads, so I guess that's why you keep doing it. But it just gets annoying reading the same paragraph every time.

I know I have the choice not to read the article, but I'm at work and pretty much check out everything because I enjoy the site. It's just something that is very obvious and maybe you should stop writing so many articles that are so similar.

It's okay to realize you're at fault here and there Ben. It just seems like every time someone gives you a bit of criticism you never accept any of it. But you use your skills as a writer to make the other person sound like they don't know what they are talking about.

Stay chill.





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NoSmokingBandit
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 3:50:13 PM

quit yer bitchin.
Ben is one of the most non-biased game reporters out there and he has every right to defend himself against the onslaught of labels and accusations.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 3:59:40 PM

Stickemup: I don't mind criticism. But I rarely see that; I see misinformed, biased, uneducated responses that aren't worthy of anyone's attention.

And here's a challenge for you: find a publication that focuses on one aspect of the entertainment industry. Sift through three years worth of issues. ...see how many similar articles you find. It's the NATURE of the publication. It's the topic at hand. It will be discussed, and lo and behold, we MIGHT be talking about similar things every now and then.

If YOU want to try coming up with entirely original articles a million times a year, feel free. I'm just sayin'. ;)

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Deleted User [Administrator]
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 6:07:22 PM

I understand that Ben, I know it's not easy coming up with %100 original articles.

Of course during a 3 year span a publication is going to have articles that are about the same thing. And you should keep updating us every few months. It just seems like I read that same article 2-3 times a month on here.

And that explain why I'm not a fanboy opening paragraph pops up all the time, it just seems really telegraphed now.

This is a Playstation site and while I'm not saying a lot of people here are rabid fanboys, a lot of them are big time Sony fans/defenders and that is why most people wont complain about such articles.

I really hope you see where I'm coming from. I read every single article, everyday, and enjoy your writing. I just truly felt like I had read something like this very similar at least twice in the past month or so.

"quit yer bitchin" is the type of stuff that you guys should frown upon. Not honest criticism from a long time reader.

One more thing, what has bothered me the most from your responses to criticism is when you use your writing skills (like I said before) to make someone look less credible. I'm all for you doing it to idiots who make stupid comments, but I've seen you respond to some comments from people who knew what they were talking about, but maybe completely were against what you were saying, in a sorta condescending way. Just what I feel, once again.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, May 30, 2009 @ 11:00:01 AM

Considering that I can't recall a time when I ever debated with anyone in the Comment section (I never have time for that), and considering that I'm the one who has to deal with feedback and backlash outside of PSXE (hence, my defense of this site's character), I don't quite understand your statements.

But I'll take them into consideration.

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HOODGE
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 3:49:21 AM
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Yup I own both a PS3 and 360 and they both sit side by side and both are hooked up to my HD tv via HDMI. I went out yesterday and bought Infamous and am having a hoot with it. I got Killzone 2 when it launched and still drool over it. I play tons of Socom now that it is fixed and loving it. GT5 Prologue makes me drool and am extremely impatient for the finished product. Resistance 2 and Warhawk still blow the hell out of me and run like glass. Little Big Planet is huge fun. And MLB09 The Show is the best looking sports game on any platform that looks like a real baseball game. Dam Gotta love Sony.

Now on the 360 side I have one game I love to play and that's it. It's the race sim Race Pro. And once GT5 comes out next year (early I hope), Forza and Race Pro will be forgotten. Forza 3 will not even hold a candle to GT5.

Basically my 360 is starting to be left out of the picture now, and it's probably good anyways as if I play it too much it will blow up and start a fire. Lol's

E3 is gonna be absolutely dominating for Sony. I just hope Microsoft doesn't steal another amazing exclusive as I have read some rumours that Kojima may port the next MGS over to the 360 as well and I'm afraid Microsoft may pull another trick out of their ass as they did last E3 with FF. Let's hope not. Hey their in desperate mode now. Wouldn't suprise me!

Anyways with such a huge exclusive list for the rest of this year and beyond, it's all but over for 360 xbot fans. Alan Wake and Forza 3 are the only exclusives that will open peoples eyes at E3. Other then that Microsoft will just be pissing in the wind. Oh well, 360 owners will just have to force themselves to get in the real hardcore gaming world and buy a PS3. It's inevitable!!

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DGo8
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 3:58:03 AM
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I remember when i told every1 i got a PS3 there like ohhhh PS3 got no games...and Playstation is old skool every1s bored of the playstation(as a brand)...i was like WTF! The Playstation in my eyes is a legendary brand....and...well...PS3 dont have any games....i think its the other way round now...Us PS3 owners have got tought times ahead yes we have :(....all the choice we have so many hard decisions we have to make with all these amazing games coming out!!

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www
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 4:16:10 AM
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Same here Ben,

I just can't figure out what to buy for the 360, moreover am preferring multi-plats on the ps3 just cause of FREE online, yes GBP32 for 12 month LIVE subscription is a whole big deal for me,why? cause i can get 2 platinum or old games i missed out in that GBP32. Am waiting to buy the GTAIV DLC compilation disc for my 360 this fall,till then,it's not gonna get much play.

Heck even the celebrities that were all for the 360 at first are now switching to PS3.

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Highlander
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 9:59:58 AM

Not to single you out, but you were the poster who raised the issue, so I'll reply here...

Since when did anyone with more than two brain cells bumping into each other on a regular basis care which video game console a celebrity owned or preferred? Are our purchasing decisions being made for us by celebrities now? If that's the case for anyone, then it's a sad, sad day indeed. Seriously, does anyone care one iota whether any celebrity uses PS3 instead of 360? Really? Really!? I mean, really?

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JofaMang
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 10:58:29 AM

wut duz gaga play OHH EMM GEEEE

Seriously though, I'm with you Highlander. Celebrity endorsements are pretty meaningless to me as a gamer. But, there is an argument to be made that celebrity usage statistics may be indicative of larger market trends within certain demographics... what one person plays with is less important that the whole picture. While I don't need the ps3 to be number 1, I do want it to sell well. Celebrity usage can only contribute to sales, as there are a very large amount of north americans who allow these things to factor into their decision making.

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Ganesh
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 4:16:30 AM
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how can you compare the xbox with the dreamcast?

pfioouuu I got scared a couple of minutes..

For me it's the Playstation 3 who looks like the Dreamcast (hard to dev on, great games but not so much sales...)

I am quite happy with my PS3 I think the games I played and I will are exclusive except for POP and SF4 but killzone valkyria chronicle MGS4 ratchet and clank and the future ones I think I made the good choice but their is good games on Xbox too and I think microsoft just shut up for the last few month in order to make a fu**ing big E3 they says nothing imagine they arrived with a lot of gameplay vidéo of a lot of games they will kill Sony if they have nothing more than they already told us.

Sorry for my english I am french trying to write english ^^

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Arvis
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 11:57:30 AM

You're French? Are you watching a lot of tennis this week? =)

-Arvis

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 12:27:07 PM

I'm not French but I'll be watching. :)

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Fane1024
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 4:18:33 PM

Since when did the PS3 have "not so much sales"?

Will people please stop spreading this misinformation? The PS3 may be third in sales this generation, but not by a wide margin. It hasn't sold as fast as the PS2 did, but it has outsold (Dreamcast, Gamecube, Xbox) or is outselling (360, SNES, N64) almost every system that has ever been sold. And at $400-600.

p.s. Also, the 360 (unfortunately ;)) isn't going the way of the Dreamcast either.

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HOODGE
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 6:05:34 PM

Sorry Ganesh. There is nothing on the horizon for 360 that will eclipse anything in the future for PS3 in terms of technology, power, sheer new innovative ideas, and pushing the hardware, as 360 has already pushed its console to the max with Gears 2 which in my opinion doesn't even come close to the sheer brute power of Killzone 2. And Killzone 2 is only the start of greater things to come.

Face it, Microsoft had their limelight for some years and it is dimming out.

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Scarecrow
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 7:05:36 PM

Can you tell me what Devs were saying when Dreamcast and ps2 came out?

Dreamcast: It's so easy to develop for, it keeps the basic structure previous consoles had put in place

Playstation 2: Too powerful to develop for? It's hard to develop games for ps2

^And yes I'm not making it up

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SNAKEHOUND
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 4:59:36 AM
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Like they say, all good things come to those who wait, and us PS fans, have been steadily patient. Time to reap the rewards!

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isaya85
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 6:53:08 AM
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360 has some good games obviously not as good as PS3 but M$ did what they had to do this gen even if it meant getting old PS2 exclusives they did good this time around despite the rrod problem, I just wish people would give M$ just a little more credit instead of all this one sided thinking quit being freakin fanboys

on topic: I will try my hardest to get all the exclusive games this year, unfortunately I have to get Infamous a little later I'm strapped for cash at the moment, only 3rd party titles to get is batman and modern warfare 2

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Highlander
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 12:08:20 PM

MS have not done good this generation. They built and knowingly sold a device with a 30% failure rate. They still make a shockingly poorly designed and built console with failure rates well above the CE norm.

Not to mention the constant flow of FUD from MS, then we come to the whole purchased exclusives crap. MS tried this same bull with BluRay and all it earned them was a hole in their wallet.

No, I don't think that MS have done good this generation at all. They do have many very good games and ideas, but their execution on these ideas and their product quality has been shockingly bad.

Lastly their tactics have actually damaged the HD gaming market, delaying the onset of both BluRay and HD gaming. Two years ago MS started bleating about digital distribution of HD media, they started this at about the time they realized that HD-DVD was dead in the water. Microsoft did this not because they truly think that digital distribution of real HD is viable outside a tiny % of uber premium broadband customers, but because it damaged BluRay and Sony. For Microsoft the Xbox360 is not about games, it's not about gamers, it's not about quality, it's about controlling the living room the way in which they have controlled the desktop for decades. The logical thing for MS to have done two years ago was to swallow their pride and consider a BluRay external drive. Remember it was already too late to include either HD-DVD or BluRay in the 360's design since they'd launched. So now they're stuck with a console that can't to HD video, and a digital distribution strategy that requires tomorrow's broadband infrastructure to be here yesterday. In the mean time they cynically continue to buy games out from under the Playstation brand (yes FFXIII, I am looking at you) and snipe at Sony. At the end of the day though, their message is hollow.

Sorry, I don't see the good that they're doing, perhaps I'm missing something?

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Fane1024
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 4:33:40 PM

@ Highlander

Agree 100%.

I wish the third console-maker wasn't a cancer on the industry, but they are. And with Nintendo doing whatever the hell it is they think they're doing, I have to side with Sony, though I don't want to be a fanboy.

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HOODGE
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 6:15:54 PM

Thank you Highlander for that ammo packed and absolutely true and incredibly logical response. You hit it right on the nail about MS. They are doing the same to 360 gamers as they do to the PC people. To sum it up: Everything Microsoft touches turns to S**T. It's not about the gamer. It's about making people buy over and over again. It's about them and not their customers.

This coming from a loyal customer on his 4th and last 360. No more 360 crap for me anymore.

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AwRy108
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 8:17:12 AM
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I've been saying this all along: Microsoft blew their load in the 360's first years, but they lack any type of long-term goals for their console.

Sony has built up an incredible army of loyal developers, and now that the lumbering giant that is the PlayStation brand has awoken, all takers better step out of the way.

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lightel0s
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 8:38:15 AM
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BLEH.. lets wait till E3 guys, as a 360 owner all i can say it's "lets wait" it's normal in the console circle to have a dry period, sony already have one, now its 360, after the show lets see how things come.

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Fane1024
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 4:35:38 PM

I have to agree. Microsoft will have something(s) big to announce, but it will be a while before it hits market.

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coldbore
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 8:54:22 AM
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from personal experience, it's not the games that the xbots brag about anymore, its their online, when ever i talk to any xbox fanboy they always say and talk about how the xbox online is more competitive and more hardcore gamers, but to be honest whenever i play xbox live im always playing against 10 year old squeakers that talk nothing but smack because they have no lives, ben you really need to make an article about how the ps3 is more for competitive gamers then the xbox, then i can show them a great expample from a reliable source, that should make them shut up ;) heck i even had one of my friends tell me that sony wasnt going to E3 this year because of some sort of embarasment, man did that ever p*** me off, im pretty sure if anyone is going to be embarrased this year its going to be microsoft due to lack of things left to put out, i dougt they can have another price drop because then they will start to lose money, and they are microsoft, they are cheap :P

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Luan
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 9:43:01 AM
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I'm just psyched for most ps3 games coming out soon, let's not forget the PSN titles too! which in my opinion are just much more inovative and fun than XBLA titles..

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CH1N00K
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 9:52:00 AM
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As much as I like to see the PS3 finally getting more recognized, The silence from the Microsoft side actually gives me cause for concern. Maybe I'm just pessimistic, but we all know how Microsoft works, and they're kind of like Paris Hilton..If you aren't talking about them, then they'll do something so you will.

I'm waiting until after E3, but something that has been tugging at the back of my brain is that if all is quiet on the Software front, could that mean that a new system is in development? MS has made their money, but if they want to keep competing with the PS3's ever growing Graphical power, they're going to have to come up with something sometime within the next 8 years.

I hope I'm wrong and there isn't a Xbox 360.2 or the Xbox 720 on the horizon...but this silence from MS kind of has me worried.

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HOODGE
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 6:28:57 PM

Chinook, they will have no recourse but to throw another crapbox into the mix soon. They will have to do just the same move they are doing with Vista. Around for a few years. Garbage performance. always crashing and breaking down. Oh well let's put out a new Operating System called 7.1 and abandon vista and force everyone to upgrade to 7.1.

That is exactly what will happen with the 360 scene. 360 people brag about the sales of 360 versus the PS3 and about how successful they are. Blind is what they are. Microsoft announced a loss of over 1 BILLION dollars in the warranty program nearly TWO years ago and the RROD problem still exists. That company is losing more money on hardware sales than Sony is at 46 dollars a pop in the hole on each console sold. 33% failure rate for 360 machines is a ton of coin lost.

I figure in a year or two Microsoft will announce their next machine and force it down everyones throats, and once it comes out, they will abandon the 360 platform just like they did the original Xbox. That's Microsofts way of doing business.

Build a piece of crap and they will come!!

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phade2blaq
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 9:59:21 AM
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As far as console wars goes, I say choose the console(s) that has the kind of games that you like to play ! By that I mean exclusives !

The 360 started strong and the PS3 started slowly but now the PS3 seems to be gaining momentum and the 360 seems to be slowing a bit !

I don't count the Wii simply because as we all know, Nintendo has always designed family friendly consoles and the Wii is no different !

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Highlander
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 11:01:09 AM
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This is precisely what many long time gamers - the gray beards of gaming - have been saying since before the PS3 was launched. PS3 is a slow burn. Sony want's a 10 year product life. But all the folks from the "Me!" and "Now!" generations had their eyes glued to the glittery ball that Microsoft was dangling in front of the gaming market. Microsoft has not managed it's product well, it maxed out in the first two year, and now has to sustain for perhaps as many as 5 years without substantial improvement. PS3 on the other hand is still getting better, and by all accounts this will continue for at least another generation of games so it could be year 4 or 5 before the PS3 is maxed out. Far more fitting to a longer product life cycle.

So, PS3 has been a slow burn. There are many reasons for this. Media bias, Microsoft FUD, slower than expected HDTV adoption rates thanks to a tanking world economy and so on... However PS3 continues to sell well at the higher price, and the games are truly arriving. No longer is it a case of wait and see, they're coming, no, they're here. This year. They started arriving last year. The slow burn of the PS3 may be about to accelerate. Fueled by the best HD gaming lineup - perhaps the best gaming line up over all - the PS3 will be strong this year, and if Sony also manages to bring a new smaller, lighter, slim PS3 along with a $100 price reduction. Well, that slow burn could well look like the burning of a fuse on a stick of dynamite as the PS3 market explodes.

On the assumption that a $299 PS3 sells like hot cakes, and the games continue to come and increase in quality, what is Microsoft's answer? They already sell their console for as little as $199, so they have that much less room to drastically reduce their price. hey may already have reached their peak in terms of game capability on the 360, in which case the cupboard may well be very bare for them. Sony would well drop the price of the PS3 by another $50 in autumn 2010. Unless the games dry up, I just don't see anything stopping the PS3 from becoming a video game juggernaut for the next two to three years.

To some extent I wonder whether this is the hare and the tortoise, and Sony is the tortoise. Microsoft may find that being the hare and leaning out to an early lead does not guarantee victory - in any race.

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Fane1024
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 4:38:44 PM

...and with Sony's strong first-party studios, there won't be another dry spell of awesome exclusives.

I disagree about the slim PS3, however, unless they shrink it horizontally, which would rock.

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HOODGE
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 6:34:23 PM

Kaboom!!! Another stellar comment Highlander. You and Ben are Gods!! Great comment.

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Deleted User
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 12:25:54 PM
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I say if RE5 can be made on the 360, then I'm sure we can see a lot more come out of it.

RE5 almost looks as good as Killzone 2.

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HOODGE
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 6:35:54 PM

EEEEEH wrong answer!!!!

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Jalex
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 12:40:35 PM
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I'm not sure if this was a good time to say this or a bad time, as E3 is so close and some Microsoft people have been saying that they have a lot of stuff to talk about (wether said 'stuff' is software is obviously unknown, though).

Anyway...I just hope the PS3 keeps at the pace it's been going and remains so high-quality.

Oh, and let's not forget 'Mass Effect 2' for the 360. That game is right up there with new 'Metal Gear' content and 'Heavy Rain' for me.

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Highlander
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 1:45:44 PM

If we apply the same cynicism filter to MS as we do to Sony or Square Enix, then a few people talking vaguely about some 'stuff' that they'll talk about at E3 amounts to little more than smoke, mirros and hand waving.

Seriously though. I've said it before that MS has been too quiet. However it's very, very, VERY, unlike Microsoft to a) be quiet about anything, b) mainatin secrecy for more than two nano-seconds and c) not be conspicuously blabbing in their more friendly media outlets about how they're gonna kill Sony at this year's E3 [see point a)].

I do agree that they could have something up their sleeve, but there is a lot that Sony could easily have in store that has not been talked of, or has simply been underplayed as well. We'll have to wait and see, but without an uncharacteristically quiet Microsoft holding an ace or two up their sleeve, I think Ben's analysis of the upcoming year(s) and this year's E3, is spot on.

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Terminator
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 1:46:36 PM
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Hey this is probably the wrong place for this but I am mainly a pc gamer. I have been so far behind in console gaming it's not even funny. I was thinking about buying an xbox 360 elite in the next week cause I can finally afford it and I really want one. or wanted. After reading this article and all the comments I am actually leaning toward the ps3 more.(and I was a hater when they came out. probably for no less reason than I couldn't afford one)You guys have mentioned some great stuff here and it got me to thinking. So many games on the 360 are multi-platform to pc so I'm not missing much there and the ps3 has soo many great games I've never even played or seen played. I forgot that I had and loved a ps2 for years. So just letting you guys all know that you've pushed me to the other side, and all my friends have 360's and boy am I gonna take some crap!
I do actually have a question for you guys tho. the ps2 had all these awesome things and though they didn't do very well it was still so cool! I thought the eyetoy was fun a while back and the time-crysis thing with the guns. the motion sensing pad and the golfing game thing. All those things were very unique to the ps2. Do you think the ps3 will be trying out any things like that? just curious cause way back i was a sucker for that stuff.

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Highlander
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 2:03:32 PM

PS3 has the PSEye which is basically an upgraded eyetoy. See the game Eye of the Beholder for more. There are also some PSN downloadable 'games' that you interact with that use the camera to track your movement ton control on screen action.

The sixaxis controller has pretty decent motion control, games like Flower and High Velocity Bowling make good use of it. Ratchet and Clank Future : Tools of destruction made good use of it as well. Linger in the Shadows was interesting too.

SingStar for PS3 comes with Microphones and a wireless microphone is coming soon. Singstar itself now features voice control as well as compatibility with Singstar game discs for the PS2 opening up the song library quite a bit.

Buzz uses hand held 'buzzer' controllers for quiz games. Some PS3 games allow keyboard and/or mouse control (Unreal Tournament for example).

Of course there are all the instruments for the various music games and the upcoming skateboard for Tony Hawk. So there is plenty of control innovation on the PS3, I don't think you'll be disappointed.

Oh, one last thing, Time Crisis 4 is a PS3 game that uses a light gun (Guncon3)...so there is even that as well.

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Fane1024
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 4:42:35 PM

I think Highlander means Eye Of Judgment, which came packaged with the Eye.

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Highlander
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 4:56:16 PM

Thanks, you're right, Eye of Judgement. My mind was wandering...

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ace_boon_coon
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 3:54:54 PM
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maybe M$ will learn that this is a marathon not a sprint to the finish

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b3mike
Thursday, May 28, 2009 @ 8:56:50 PM
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I agree with the poster that called Microsoft the cancer of the gaming industry!

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The X Factor 9
Friday, May 29, 2009 @ 3:30:03 AM
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Can't wait for E3...you know Sony has even more unannounced stuff planned for us...

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Robochic
Friday, May 29, 2009 @ 10:00:36 AM
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Sony has a big line up another exclusive i'm looking forward to is the new katamari game it looks great.
can't wait for WKC so excited.

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SavageSpartan
Friday, May 29, 2009 @ 6:13:26 PM
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I think that the ps3 is doing much better but what M$ announces at E3 will determine by how much.

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djhyperio
Friday, May 29, 2009 @ 8:35:03 PM
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The ps3 is simply attracting everyone now-a-days. My younger brother bought one because of me. Then my father saw us having video conferences (my brother lives in Brazil and I live in Florida), and now he bought one (he lives in Mexico). Then he ordered me to buy one for my oldest sister who just got pregnant (she lives in North Carolina). Not only are the games great, the exclusive lineup better, but the features that can connect an entire family all around the world are just insane.
The ps3 is here to stay, while the xbox is finishing the circle.

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Terminator
Saturday, May 30, 2009 @ 2:27:37 AM
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Thanks a lot Highlander. You know your stuff and I'll have to be looking into this very soon

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PaiNT_kinG
Saturday, May 30, 2009 @ 10:40:21 AM
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OMG such a shock,syke haha

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