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Ben's Week In Review: August 16

Summer got here a little late, but it's definitely in full effect. I despise heat, but somehow, I hate humidity even more...rowing or playing tennis in that sh** is just plain hell.

Why is everyone "on the fence" concerning Bayonetta?

So when I delivered the story that Bayonetta would run at a very competent 60 frames per second on both the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, I figured it was a good sign, and most would respond positively. But to my surprise, it seems a great many people have little confidence in Platinum Games and designer Hideki Kamiya, even after seeing plenty of gameplay footage. I see almost nothing wrong with any of that footage and I would automatically assume action aficionados would be drooling. Many are drawing comparisons to the Devil May Cry franchise and rightfully so; Kamiya was responsible for the creation of Dante in the original DMC. To me, it has the cartoon-y, comic book style attitude of DMC and the super fast action of Ninja Gaiden. We've also heard the developers say it will be immensely challenging so to assume it'll just be a button-mashing borefest is completely insane. But I have a theory:

I have a feeling that if we saw these exact same trailers and that exact same gameplay footage, and the protagonist was a guy, the vast majority of responses would be overwhelmingly positive. There's this bizarre undercurrent amongst gamers lately that says if a leading lady is involved, the title is suddenly all about T&A. Perhaps it's subconscious, but I believe it's true. And at no point in any of the footage I've seen does it seem like the designers created Bayonetta for the sole purpose of adding titillating cut-scenes; the gameplay is straight-up frenetic craziness. She doesn't even "bounce" like the girls in Ninja Gaiden Sigma, and yet, we're assuming the game is of lesser quality because it's "about the girl." Sorry, but this is dumb. Stop thinking that.

Never knew there could be a biased developer...

It almost seems impossible. I was under the impression that all companies, video game developers included, were in business to make money. But every time I hear about Gabe Newell and Valve, I can come to no other conclusion than this: they're biased against Sony and the PlayStation. I mean, you can't keep claiming the system is "too hard" for you when every other major designer on earth has come around. And you can't say you don't "need it" when there are 24 million potential customers for your games out there. None of this makes any sense whatsoever. Valve has simply lagged behind the rest of the developing world by choice, and I can think of no other reason besides the fact that Newell and Co. have always been PC fanboys. And because the 360 is so similar to PC architecture, they deign to step down from their lofty plateaus and produce games for that console. But the PS3 is like an alien to them, so they don't bother.

It's just too stupid to talk about. Know why? Because as far as I'm concerned, it's no great loss. They make like one great game every few years or something like that, and outside of L4D and a zillion Half-Life titles, I have no idea what makes them so great in the first place. So...whatever. Just don't tell me this is the proper way to run a business.

Soooo sick of movies with political agendas

SPOILERS ahead for "District 9"

I usually do a "personal gaming update" here, but there's just nothing to say right now. Still want to play Batman: Arkham Asylum, which I'll be reviewing, but outside of that, I just go back and play a lot of fun titles I've already completed. So anyway, I saw "District 9" today; if you're not familiar, it's Peter Jackson's new sci-fi flick. I almost never go to the theater and this only reminded me why: apparently, they can't make a movie that's not either painfully insulting and stupid or loaded to the gills with the standard Hollywood, uber-liberal agenda. Want to know what the movie was about? Okay, take the aliens, turn them into any minority group, and you've got a New Yorker article about how humans always oppress other peoples for no reason, and if we'd just "look deeper" and "put ourselves in their shoes," we'll be that much more enlightened. ...basically, "District 9" is a gore-fest superimposed over an after-school TV special.

You know, I don't need a lecture. I really don't. I'm all for tolerance and trying to see people for who they are rather than what they are, but I learned this in effing FIRST GRADE. We all did. We don't need it continually bashed into our brains; it's just boring me to tears. Either make something original that tells me an interesting story without the damn soapbox, or don't bother. Seriously. And outside of the extra violence for no reason whatsoever - yes, they're gonna cut into that guy while he's still awake because it's so much easier than sedating him - the movie had no redeeming purpose. I just can't understand the high reviews for this thing...I know it has been received well. It's why I went.

But I'm sorry. I'm just sick and tired of this.

8/15/2009 Ben Dutka

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Comments (115 posts)

ExhumeART
Saturday, August 15, 2009 @ 10:49:55 PM
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No offense Ben, but in my eyes you completely misinterpreted District 9. For me, it's easily the best film I've seen in quite a long time. Here's a list of reasons why:

1. No basic formula, providing an interesting plot full of twists and turns.

2. Lack of stars which removes the whole "look at me" bulls***.

3. Terrific CGI.

4. Incredible designs.

5. Morals are ACTUALLY MODERN AND INTERESTING. Just think about it: We would actually do that kind of s*** if aliens really landed on Earth.

This movie is what sci-fi should be like. Are you really going to be critical of the whole "lack of sedation" thing? Only flaw I noticed, and really, does that drag a movie down? Fu** no, James Bond movies have been doing 10 times more obvious things for 30 years and still get away with above average reviews.

Even if the ideas behind it put you off, you really didn't find it cool? Come on man, that's just pathetic. I would use specific examples, but I don't wanna ruin all of the fun for the others.

I know I'll also get a bunch of negative s*** and thumbs down, but screw it, It's my opinion.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 1:09:59 AM

You're entitled to your opinion but I certainly didn't misinterpret anything.

I'm sorry, but I maintain my stance. The CGI was good but has no bearing on the storytelling in my eyes. We were never told how or why the aliens were there, nor were we told why we reacted the way we did; there's absolutely no guarantee whatsoever that our human reaction to a bunch of starving creatures would be to treat them like insane, lowly animals.

I only listed the lack of sedation as one example of a useless excuse to inject more violence and gore into the movie. There was absolutely no reason for 75% of it. When a movie calls for it - and this one did at certain times - than it makes sense. But the vast majority of the grossness in the movie was only to appeal to the desensitized adolescent masses.

And nothing about it was original. Like I said, I told you what the story was about: humans encounter unknown species or peoples. Humans respond like ignorant idiots. One character learns the lesson the populace should learn. That's ALL there is and it's hardly unique. I will say the story, as many times as it has been told, was done well. Peter Jackson has always been an excellent film maker and continues to be.

I'm sorry that I didn't find anything about the movie "cool." I'm sorry you think that's pathetic. I'm sorry people actually think something like this is intelligent. I'm sorry that dialogue and writing takes a back seat to preaching with the benefit of constant, in-your-face CGI and special effects. Don't go calling people "pathetic" just because YOU like to be pandered to. If you like the movie, fine. I have no problem with that. Lots of people did.

But don't insult me because I stated the truth. And P.S. I knew the ending of this movie five minutes into it. I knew it right down to the last detail without knowing ANYTHING going in. "Twists and turns?" No. Predictable from the get-go.

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 3:39:25 AM

I'm not agreeing with Bad Noodles, he's wrong on a couple of his key points, IMO. But I also think you're way off base as well Ben.

There is a definite Apartheid metaphor going on in this movie, no way to argue against that point. But I don't think viewers were slapped in the face with that message at all. I was 100% percent aware of the "message" going into the movie and my biggest worry was that the movie would be too far shoved up its own ass (ie: what you described in the article). But I thought they handled it expertly. It's hard for any informed adult not to at least notice the metaphor but I feel like if one weren't looking for those messages then the wouldn't find it annoying at all.

I plan on responding more directly to your criticisms in the forum, I don't want to give out too many spoilers on the comment section.

EDIT: here's the thread. http://www.psxextremeforums.com/off-topic-forum/10268-spolierific-distric-9-thread-no-aliens-allowed.html

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ExhumeART
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 4:15:56 AM

Wow that comment made me seem like an asshole lol. I'm sorry, but I just didn't (and don't) want people to pass this movie, and It just seemed unfair at the time to immediately discourage people from seeing it, because lets face it: People who read this are going to take interest in your opinion and trust you, and while not all may like this movie, it still deserves a chance as I am a huge fan of Neill Blomkamp. I'm sorry, and I won't be leaving anything insulting on this site again, especially towards you Ben (let the ass kissing begin!).

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 10:02:50 AM

I didn't mean to insult you, but you shouldn't call me pathetic just because I didn't think the movie was cool.

And I really wouldn't worry about my opinion influencing people not to see the movie. I doubt Jackson and Co. will suffer because of me and my lil' ol comment. ;)

SHADOW: Like I said, I think he told the story very well. It was indeed handled expertly. But at no point could I sit there and say, "okay, the message ISN'T in my face right now." Oh look, the alien we're supposed to sympathize with has a son. Oh look, at the end of the movie, they dude who turned into an alien is talking about his "angel" (i.e., "lily white") wife. Oh look, there's the quintessential redneck soldier who wants to shoot anything that moves, and anyone who isn't exactly like him deserves to die.

Know what I mean?

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 1:11:45 PM

Ya, I see where you're coming from, but I still don't believe that if you were to watch the movie without looking for those things that they'd be so obvious. It felt to me like there was a strong subtext within the movie but if you didn't care to try to constantly find it, it wouldn't be so blatant.

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Jawknee
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 6:36:09 PM

"there's absolutely no guarantee whatsoever that our human reaction to a bunch of starving creatures would be to treat them like insane, lowly animals."

in Africa they might. They did it to their own people for a loooooooooong time. I agree with Ben, the Hollyweird lectures about how terrible white males are or just people in general are getting old, but in District 9, i didnt feel like the movie was trying to force an agenda on us, more like it was just reminding us of the horror committed by the Apartheid government. I think Neil Blomkemp or what ever is from South Africa no? It was based on his short story after all.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 9:09:48 PM

SHADOW: For the record, I most certainly didn't go into that movie looking for ANYTHING politically related. Hell, I thought I'd be free from it in there, based on the previews.

I'm sorry, but it was just in my face from jump. Plain and simple.

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 10:43:32 PM

I guess it all comes down to the way it's presented. While I had no problem with District 9, I have a huge problem with the constant in-your-face preaching from something like Twilight.

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Highlander
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 1:34:18 AM

Sorry, say what now? to me District 9 looks like a rehash of Alien Nation. In other words it's a formula, it's been done, and it (Alien Nation) was better.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, August 15, 2009 @ 10:53:12 PM
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Does Bayonetta have enough to bounce? Anyway, I'm not on the fence because of the female lead, that's never been a problem. I think it has to do with just how far over the top batshit crazy it may come out, and yeah how hard it is too.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Saturday, August 15, 2009 @ 11:47:51 PM

Yeah she does, and her clothes are made of her hair =O and the more powerful her attacks are, the less clothes she wears until the attack is over =)

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Fatcat3788
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 2:13:22 AM

Shallow comment of the week. I think Bayonetta is just plain butt ugly and is therefore cutting down on some of that game's appeal.

Now, even on that note, I am still very much looking forward to that game. Though I doubt I will buy it when it first comes out. I do hope it is very successful though.

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fluffer nutter
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 4:01:12 AM

World kind of touched on why I'm on the fence with Bayonetta but there's another factor for me. The "look" of the game isn't as appealing for me. The shades of color and yeah, the action just looks a bit over the top and partially flamboyant. It's just an opinion and I still want to keep an open mind for when I try it out. If the game is fun, I will definitely consider that over the colors and aesthetics of the game. Fun factor always prevails.

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Highlander
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 1:38:13 AM

The thing is if it was about some brawny guy with muscles and bare chest and what not no one would bat an eye, but make it about a well built lady with a tight costume and suddenly T&A accusations are thicker on the ground than pre-pubescent panties at a Justin Timberlake concert.

That's a double standard, and a fairly homo-erotic one at that. It's OK for the beef-cake to be topless and tight, but the ladies can't be bouncy and wear something tight? Sorry, say what? I don't even begin to comprehend that. However that appears, in practice, to be the situation.

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Victor321
Saturday, August 15, 2009 @ 11:17:32 PM
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Boy, sounds like you had a bad week :(, hope this upcoming one's good for you.

Also, NEVER have I thought of a female lead like that (even if said female lead in some game just screams out "F**K ME.....X-Blades lol), so I hope what you said goes out to the people who've you directed to.

I didn't read the D9 section because I want to see D9 ^.^, but when I read the last few sentences, I can see you didn't like it much, mostly due to its unoriginality.

Do you like other works from Peter Jackson (i.e. LOTR for example?) Ben (I'm afraid of calling you Mr. Dutka because you get the accidental impression from me that I think you're old)?



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ExhumeART
Saturday, August 15, 2009 @ 11:35:21 PM

Wow this is a shitty day, that wasn't meant to be a reply! Sorry! I'm tired and I just had like 5 beers so I think it's best if I just stop trying to change someone's opinion or make them see D9 to begin with :)

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 1:02:33 AM

I'm 31. And I loved the LotR movies. Peter Jackson's involvement was the biggest reason I went to see District 9.

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JMO_INDY
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 1:57:09 AM

I love Peter Jackson, my fav. movie of his is the remake of King Kong, amazing movie, o and Jack Black FTW.

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 3:43:46 AM

I love Petey J (that would be Peter Jackson's rapper name if he rapped) but King Kong was god awful. But Jack Black was surprisingly un-horrid in a more dramatic role.

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JMO_INDY
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 3:59:39 AM

Just curious, what didnt you like about it?

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Jawknee
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 6:39:49 PM

The ONLY thing i liked about Pete Jacks King Kong was Naomi Watts.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 9:18:33 PM

King Kong was overdone, but I still think it was done well.

And Naomi Watts is one of the most beautiful women ALIVE.

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Victor321
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 10:56:26 PM

Ok, I guess I can call you Mr. Dutka then! Lol jk :P

And thanks for answering my questions.

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tes37
Saturday, August 15, 2009 @ 11:27:46 PM
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I was thinking about getting Bayonetta, but there's just something about the DMC gameplay I don't like. It reminds me of kung fu theatre with that cheesey aerial combat.

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Kangasfwa
Saturday, August 15, 2009 @ 11:45:30 PM
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I'm looking forward to Wet because of the real character. I've never liked these over-the-top-super-badass-constantly-one-liner-spewing protagonists, not even Dante. Bayonetta, as a game and as a character, looks over stylized to me.

I still hold hope that Platinum Games will make more games in the vein of Okami, one of the best games I've ever played.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Saturday, August 15, 2009 @ 11:48:25 PM

Wet just looks like Tomb Raider with a new character, but maybe that's a good thing?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 12:37:51 AM

I didn't see any tombs in the preview.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 2:01:43 AM

Well it's City Raider then? lol just really seems like tomb raider just with a diff chara and diff enviroments, but i mean i guess all games do something alike

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Highlander
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 1:40:06 AM

So, what about the guys in Gears of War? They were not exactly typical males, you know?

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Deleted User
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 12:05:28 AM
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I just think something looks off about the atmosphere of Bayonetta. I'm not sure what it is, all the gameplay trailers I've seen for it seem, I dunno, un-immersive? is that a word? I doubt it, but thats all that comes to mind.

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ThePearlJamer
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 12:09:44 AM
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Activison and Valve should join forces and run there company's into the ground together...

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King_Krollen
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 12:13:05 AM
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Personally I have no problem with feamle leads in games. I'd even like to see a female lead in a GTA game. I mentioned that on another website a while back. Some a$$-hat came back with her being mad about her fingernail polish being smudged or something to that effect... Obviously he hadn't seen movies like 'I Spit On Your Grave' or 'The Long Kiss Goodnight'

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Scarecrow
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 12:54:05 AM
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Flasy DMC games make me cringe
I love the first DMC because it didn't try to be flashy in EVERY OPPORTUNITY IT HAD.

It just seems these newer action/adventure games care more 'bout being flashy than actually driving a deep storyline through.

This is something GOW does very well, yes it's flashy, but at the core is the whole storytelling and THAT'S what drives the game and CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT<---Something I look for in games.

Flashiness doesn't do it for ME
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On the female protagonist bit. it's been a problem I'm having a hard time understanding:

-Beyond Good and Evil
-FFX-2
-Heavenly Sword

There's a WEIRD trend where if it's a female lead people tend to turn their heads

The last big female lead was Lara Croft. And even she could not survive that long either. After the ps1 era she's been falling down her throne with every game.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 2:05:07 AM

FF13 has a main female character

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Vivi_Gamer
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 2:47:15 AM

I have no problem with female protaognists, Beyond god and Evil was good. Heavenly Sword i didnt enjoy purely due to the Sixaxis use, found it very frustratin. And FFX-2, the problem is not that they are female, its that they are so immature and annoying. I was also angry how they destoryed Yuna's strong character from FFX-1.

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tes37
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 4:20:26 AM

I agree with Ultimadream on FF X-2. To me, the characters didn't seem strong or mature enough to handle the kind of power they wielded. SE didn't do a good job trying to convince me that the characters were warriors.

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Mamills
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 9:57:47 AM

yea i agree, i have no problem with female characters except for FFx-2
that final fantasy doesn't exist to me
i hate it when the lead character is an immature, squealing girl, that relies on what they wear to determine their power.lol
sorry as u can tell i hate FFX-2

as for bayonetta, the over the top bouncing all over the screen thing is not appealing to me at all.
i mean DMC had my attention for a few hours in the 1st game, but after that, naa

my idea of a good action game would be the god of war series.

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Scarecrow
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 2:36:47 PM

How many times are we going to have this argument 'bout FFX-2

It is a GRAND rpg. Whether you like it from a female's perspective is another thing.
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This BS talk 'bout maturity makes me want to slap some of you. Seriously, for male gamers if a female lead isn't the serious type they never give her any credit.

It has to be a cold/serious type like Lightning. You guys are close-minded. To not like Yuna's personality is one thing, but to say the game is bad because of it is another. The game overall is good, it presents not only the future of FFX, but it also presents the past, and more than that it fulfills what the sequel was made for.

I suggest you guys read IGN.com's review of the game, best review of the game thus far.

Again, we're gonna have this argument for the 100th time on this site -_-


***To say the game is bad because it's a more light-hearted adventure is NO argument. If the basics of storyline, character development, and gameplay are there and are strong the game is good regardless of if you like a "happy" female lead or not.***

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tes37
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 9:46:34 PM

Lol Scarecrow.

Nobody said the game sucked. Just didn't expect kindergarten language from characters that look 18 - 21 years old.

I had to thumb you up for at least wanting to slap me, it's the thought that counts.

This is my first time to say anything about disliking the silly language. The game was good and this is the impression I was left with after finishing it.

I read your posts as well as everyone else's, and I respect your opinion, so don't think that I posted to annoy you.

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Jed
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 1:33:02 AM
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I guess I will read the last part after I see District Nine.

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StevieRV
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 1:39:28 AM
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i noticed at the end of the bayonetta part you used a few Nirvana songs(About a Girl & Dumb). not sure if it was on purpose or not.

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Alienange
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 1:43:45 AM
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Bayonetta dreams about being DMC. It won't touch it. Not because it's a woman lead (which by the way they DID include in the game for t&a), but because the sadistic difficulty coupled with what many will no doubt be referred to as a "lousy camera" will make this game near impossible to play and lead to nothing but frustration for the majority of customers.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 2:04:12 AM

....like DMC3? Lol

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KilloWertz
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 12:43:53 PM

Way to make a prediction about a game you haven't even touched yet. Just because they make the lead a female doesn't mean they were included for T&A either. Also, people tend to forget that Hideki Kamiya had nothing to do with DMC after the first one. I see people make comments about this game and other DMC games and it seems like they don't realize that fact. I am looking forward to Bayonetta just as much as Ben is. Sure, the game is out there, but it still looks great.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 2:34:06 PM

have u seen the previews and rolling crotch shots? Yeah she is there for T&A.

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Alienange
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 7:51:37 PM

@ KilloWertz - You are looking forward to playing Bayonetta. That would be because you are expecting it to be good, no? That's as much a prediction as my saying it won't be. So leave me alone. I was giving MY opinion, not yours.

Second, if you look at the trailers and game play footage the lead character is OBVIOUSLY there for T&A. It's not because it's a woman, it's because that's the way the developers want to portray her. Which personally I think is disgraceful and detracts from what might be some awesome action.

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Fane1024
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 2:51:38 AM

Even Nariko, who was conceived by a female designer as a strong female character, was exploited as T&A. Why else was she half-naked in the snow? By contrast, Rau in the Mark Of Kri had a hooded coat during the snowy level.

Not that I'm complaining; it doesn't make me see her as anything but the strong character that she is.

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somethingrandom
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 1:56:13 AM
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You should have watched The Goods. It was funny.

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JMO_INDY
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 1:58:18 AM

that movie is hilarious, "These people are excited about the savings," i love that movie. "Never again!"

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somethingrandom
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 1:38:21 AM

"We just committed a hate crime" "I'm korean by the way" "well why didn't you say so?!"

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Juanalf
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 1:58:35 AM
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Ben You shouldn't judge or talk bad about them just cause they are Lazy,arrogant,cocky and love the smell of their own farts.We have to give them props for being universal with their games and trying all types of genres not just doing one.Maybe in time they will grow the courage to work on the PS3 but you have to give them some more time just a little more.

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JMO_INDY
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 2:27:32 AM

I hope your being sarcastic my dear friend. Gabe Newell, in the words of my friend Tyler Curry, "Go Fuck Yourself"

P.S. Tyler Curry is actually a friend of mine, any use of his name or his words without the written consent of the owner (Tyler Curry) will result in legal actions.

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Fane1024
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 3:25:05 AM
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The reasons why I have no interest in Bayonetta: pretty much everything you said in the first paragraph.

As for female leads, I prefer them, frankly. I used Ashe as my primary in FFXII; my Oblivion character is female; I preferred the female characters in Mercenaries and Rise Of The Kasai. It's probably because they tend to be the quick or stealthy ones. Many of my favorite games have female leads (Primal, BG&E, Jeanne D'Arc,Tomb Raider Legend).

As I say, half-jokingly, if you're going to stare at a character's rear end for hours, it might as well be shapely.

(ignores opportunity for political comment)


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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 2:35:36 PM

Ashe did have a shapely arse.

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Scarecrow
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 2:39:51 PM

Fran was my main in FFXII, she's so beautiful, smart, and serious in a CUTE way :D

I love female leads

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 9:17:29 PM

I liked Ashe. :)

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___________
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 4:13:17 AM
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i dont see how having the main character as a girl is a bad thing.
theres plenty of bounce in the game, if your talking about what i think you are theres plenty of bounce.
i hope they keep the dante attitude, thats the best part about DMC dantes smart a$$ attttitude, like deamons bust the door in so he says lets dance.
bayonetta looks like a new DMC to me just with a different character, not that thats a bad thing.
i think the main reason why people dont like bayonetta is either because DMC4 was a dissapointment not saying its bad just not as good as i hoped.
or its a DMC clone, people dont like playing clones of games for some reason.
i couldent care less, as long as its fun i couldent care less what its a clone of.
like people see RAGE and instantly say its like fallout 3 even though fallout 3 is a RPG and RAGE is a FPS.
last time i checked RPGs and FPS are verry different.
or they see quantum and call it a gears of war clone. SO WHAT?
or they see saints row and call it a GTA clone, even though it couldent be further from a GTA clone, GTA is more serious more realistic where saints row is being a stupid fully sick gangsta and just having fun, do whatever you want to do.
or they see uncharted and call it a lara croft clone,even though its not its WAY better constructed than lara croft and focuses more on platforming.
hell i could go on all day, but ill cut it there.
point being just because somethings a clone does not mean its a bad game.

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BigBoss4ever
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 4:50:12 AM
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Bayonetta is one of my most wanted Action/Adventure this gen, plain and simple, nothing negative about it,period.

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tes37
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 4:52:11 AM
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I see nothing wrong with having a female lead, especially if you pull camera stunts like Hideo Kojima did in MGS4. The game was awesome except for Snake's rear end was always up in the camera. I'd much rather be looking at a female character if your butt must be front and center.

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Highlander
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 1:45:36 AM

Can I give 100 thumbs up? Only one sadly, but 100% agreed...

Is it just me or is there a double standard that has muscle-bound jarheads for lead characters being OK, but bouncy female leads being labeled as gratuitous T&A? I don't understand that logic at all.

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tes37
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 2:20:20 AM

I believe there is a double standard also, and the irony is most gamers are male.

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Highlander
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 2:24:30 AM

Tes, that is the absolute BEST part. Their apparent preferences are indeed perplexing...

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 4:55:21 AM
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Personally Ben I think the idea that little-to-no hype for Bayonetta has anything to do with sexism (conscious or sub-conscious) is crazy. The problem I think is that we see this genre all the time (DMC, Heavenly Sword, God of War, etc.) and elements of this genre are making their way into other genres as well (Prince of Persia is a good example). A developer really needs to make a gigantic marketing push for their game to compete, especially with God of War 3 and Dante's Inferno coming out so soon. Bayonetta simply hasn't done that.

Personally I'm extremely interested in watching someone play that game, but have no real interest in actually playing it as I have no real interest in the genre and even the idea that it is as difficult as Ninja Gaiden makes me cry. But I love the style, the characters, and the overall atmosphere the game gives off. It seems completely aware of its own absurdity and it runs with it. I love that kind of thing.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 9:58:48 AM

Really? You think it's just because there are too many games like this?

I guess that's a possibility. You might be right. But I mean, I can't really compare Bayonetta to Uncharted. I can really only compare it to DMC and NG, and that's about it...we don't really get titles like that too often.

But you're correct about the blending of genres. I have a feeling that certain genres may just blend into each other and become one forever. I remember when "action" and "adventure" were two separate genres, for example.

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 1:15:14 PM

Yeah, that's actually a strangely pertinent comment right now. Last night I tried to quickly look up a list of games in this genre and couldn't even find a good way to classify them. Are they just pure action games? Are they hack-and-slash games? Are they next gen Beat-em-ups? I think all of these apply but no one seems to be able to make up their mind "what" these things are.

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Scarecrow
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 2:47:51 PM

Shadow,

I completely disagree.
If it was a male lead this game would no doubt get more attention.

I don't see this argument of their being competition as something that would affect this game.

There's barely 3 or 4 other games within this genre. Compared to the 10-20 FPSs which compete with other.

I'd call 'em "Mythical Action Adventure" :D
Anyone agree? haha

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TEG3SH
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 5:08:00 AM
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bayonetta will be awesome. cmon guys he is the same guy who created dante . how can he go wrong?????
@ shadow i think his ghetto name would be P.JIZZLLE . it is more badass like this dontchu think???
for me heavenly sword was perfect

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DarthNemesis
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 6:12:09 AM
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My problem with Bayonetta (other than the ridiculous name,character and atmosphere) is the fact that it's too much like DMC.It has the same animations,combos and engine as DMC.After how mediocre DMC4 was I was hoping that Kamiya would move as far away from the formula as possible to deliver something much fresher,even though he is the creator of DMC.I'd rather that he created a soul successor to Okami (masterpiece).Also with GOW3 on the horizon and no game in the genre as appealing to me since GOW2,I am not pressed for Bayonetta.Dante's Inferno would get my money instead while I wait for GOW3 if I wanted something to hold me over.

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TEG3SH
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 6:34:22 AM

or that game with the the horsemen of apocalypse that game looks sick and
btw what does bayonetta mean??????

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 2:39:38 PM

I would guess it comes from Bayonet, the dagger you affix to the end of your machine gun when u need to spear people instead of shoot them.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 9:16:26 PM

Explain this to me: you can pass judgment on the gameplay in Bayonetta without ever having touched a controller, AND claim you'd rather play Dante's Inferno which is - for all intents and purposes - a direct rip-off of God of War?

...erm'kay.

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DarthNemesis
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 2:08:23 AM

I was judging the gameplay from the gameplay videos which were exactly like DMC.Even if it turns out to be big differences,the whole atmosphere still turns me off.I never was really into DMC because of it's atmosphere either.So yeah,I prefer Dante's Inferno because I like God of War more and a GOOD clone of the franchise appeals to me.

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Xodiak
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 8:01:19 AM
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I agree ben, the movie sucked, for those exact reasons. Its a world or whiners and complainers and if we aren't reminded of it 24/7 then those wonderful people in hollywood wouldn't be the political geniuses they are. hahmmm. Political geniuses dear god, sad thing is people will take the meaning of this movie to heart and say how it opened their eyes, they listen to people that lie for a living, I mean that is what acting is isn't it? Very sad movie for those reasons, I hope he doesn't do the same to the Hobbit, I worry because there were undertones of this same stuff in Lord of the Rings.

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Jawknee
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 6:25:49 PM

Seriously, since when do we look to people like Matt Damon and Sean Penn for political wisdom. I'd be suprised if those idiots could count.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 9:15:29 PM

Heh. If anyone's eyes were "opened" by that movie, they were too stupid to chew their own food to START with. ;)

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BlinkBoy
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 8:49:39 AM
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I am getting Bayonetta, but since it is a couple of months off for release it is not in my focus right now.

I got Batman, Tekken 6, Uncharted 2, Dragon Age, Assassin's Creed 2 plus more in between now and then.

But Bayonetta will probably be my first game in 2010 - is the release January 10th?

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Qubex
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 11:08:57 AM
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Don't care much for Bayonetta... too many other games to consider... As for District 9... damn Apartheid idea is getting tired... it will end up being like Vietnam... with countless movies over and over again...

I will watch District9 to see what they did with the effects... don't care too much about story really... just the technicals... I am a CGI whore.

Q!

"i am home"

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www
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 11:46:11 AM
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"Valve has simply lagged behind the rest of the developing world by choice, and I can think of no other reason besides the fact that Newell and Co. have always been PC fanboys. And because the 360 is so similar to PC architecture, they deign to step down from their lofty plateaus and produce games for that console. But the PS3 is like an alien to them, so they don't bother"

LOL! I don't even own any Valve game.

You STILL don't have RE5? Bayonetta isn't out and RE5 is!
On the movies, like you I kinda hate movies!

Personal Gaming Update:
Being playing the hell out of inFamous the past few days,aiming at Platinum Trophy.Performing all the stunts was NOT easy and collecting all the shards was a PAIN!

The stunts are annoying especially when you can't find the right places and right bad guys eg. 'Take down 3 enemies off a roof with a shockwave' and its difficult getting 3 enemies on a roof at the same time let alone getting the stunt right with ONE shockwave blast.

I had 349/350 Blast Shards and finding the last one took 2 days, i found it just this afternoon at one of the city outskirts, i coulda sworn i checked all those places, I even had a headache running laps and jumping around like crazy across the whole entire empire city. But well, i got the Platinum Trophy now and am already contemplating selling it, there's nothing in it for me no more.

WARNING!
If you're planning on getting Plat on inFamous, get ready for a TRILLION L3 clicks for dead drops & blast shards. If you don't want headaches or acting like a mad man in the house, don't plan on getting the plat.Believe me, once you're drawn in,there's no turning back.And if you don't find the last blast shard, you'll feel like your life is incomplete.

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sunspider13
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 12:16:43 AM

Hey www, I feel your pain, I'm trying for my 1st platinum trophy (don't laugh people); I just have one more stunt to go for that trophy and I have to do the Casey Jones trophy (25 kills on a moving train). As for the shards my advice is to look around the dock areas, that's where I found the ones that I needed. I was stuck needing 6 for awhile and it almost became an obsession, I was having dreams about shards, lol. Good luck to ya man.

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Bugzbunny109
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 11:53:13 AM
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Hey Ben, if you din't notice, fat gets in the way of brain cognition. You know the saying, "you are what you eat"? The burgers are getting in the way of his thought process. He is turning into and thinking like a cow. His company is his crap. No wonder they stink ;)

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Scarecrow
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 2:54:51 PM

omg :D

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 9:14:15 PM

I've been wondering if fat cells can somehow assault the brain...could be the reason this entire country is slowing down, both physically and mentally.

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Master Midgar
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 11:54:20 AM
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Bayonetta is the product of Hideki Kamiya, who worked on Devil May Cry. That alone sold it to me.

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Alienange
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 8:00:22 PM

Yeah, Devil May Cry was amazing.

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Qubex
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 9:52:25 PM

Whilst I don't think I will purchase Bayonetta, I can appreciate it will be a polished product. I am sure, visually at least, it will be treat too :)

Q!

"i am home"

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556pineapple
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 1:11:06 PM
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Valve annoys me, but I'm probably building a gaming PC soon so IF I really want to play one of their games, I'll have a machine that can do it, no matter how I obtain the game. Bayonetta looks interesting, so I'll probably play it. I liked district 9, even though it was preachy. Oh, and if history has taught us anything, it's that humans DO oppress other people for no reason. Even if those of us in Western culture have grown up knowing this is wrong, let's not forget at it was in Johannesburg that apartheid was still in effect not 20 years ago. The movie WAS preachy, but I think this really had a valid point, maybe not to us, but certainly to some cultures.

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xXxSeTTriPxXx
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 1:37:38 PM
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i'm a long time reader of psx,but i never comment.just love to read ps3 updates,without all the industry bias.but i saw your comment on D9 and had to say something.i really don't see a problem,with a film that preaches tolerance(if done right),if their ever was a political agenda to push this would be it.i don't think it's talked about enough in fact.mybe this was peter jackson way of rising awareness,in a way that people would watch,have funning doing so and mybe come out of the theater more knowledgeable.and your comment where you said you learned about tolerance "in the effing 3rd grade"...well we all did but lets be real,alot of people don't exercise it.it's just like std prevention,it's not talk about enough so in turn you have staggering statistics,especially amongst younger people.we treat racism and sex like some dirty little secret,and wonder why nothing ever changes,it's because we want to bury it,instead of face it,find a real solution to the problem and do something about it.i don't mean to take what you said out of context but you sound so passionate about your view and i'm very passionate about tolerance i just had to comment.now if you saw the transformers2,the two stereo typical black male robot's(if you saw it you know what i mean),that was insulting.i know i'm going to get alot of negative feedback for this rant.but it's just my view of things.not intended to insult or force anybody to see thing's my way. p.s i think this site is AWESOME.keep up the good work.

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Jawknee
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 6:22:49 PM

In regards to rascism it doesn't go away because these liberal types never stop picking the effing scab! It's needs to be talked about less, not more. They scream racism at anyone who doesn't go along with their false hopes and ideals for a utopian society. I'm tired of being called a racist because I think we should judge people based on their character and not their skin.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 9:13:22 PM

Thanks for the compliment, and I understand what you're saying. I'm all for tolerance and peace as well.

But as Jawknee said, we really DON'T need it shoved into our faces anymore. The only people who think this stuff is an issue are the people who continue to MAKE it an issue.

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fluffer nutter
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 12:25:35 AM

I agree with Jawknee and Ben. Seriously, people. Didn't your parents raise you to have a proper self-image? Self-understanding? Self-esteem? If so, then whenever someone decides to make any comments that negate that, why not just ignore it and press on with your life how you feel it should be lived? I just don't get why people get so offended by these things. You only live once. Act like it and carry on with what's important with you.

As for the movie, I never really heard much about it and seeing the above comments, I'm starting to wonder about this movie. I don't care for preaching movies and if it really is that blatant, then I guess I'll just wait to spend the $15 for the blu-ray and throw it out if it really is that bad.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 2:43:13 PM
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More interested in WET, hey does Eliza Dushku play the main chick's voice?

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 9:12:15 PM

Yep.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 12:45:42 AM

awesome.

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Scarecrow
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 2:56:21 PM
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I just pray for Heavenly Sword 2

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newchef
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 4:29:09 PM

same here, the final boss battle(s) was my fav part of tht whole game, i have played thru that game like 5 times just to do those fights

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archs13
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 3:22:24 PM
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but ben doesn't hollywood make movies with that kind of agenda almost all the time though? i mean im not just talking about scifi genres but all the other genres...
i really loved this movie because i guess i would say that it's 'original'.. i said that because there's almost too much movies that are based on a comic book or a remake. i think it's nice that we see an original story once in a while unlike gijoe or transformers and the like.

im looking forward to the sequel of the movie!!!

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Jawknee
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 6:18:57 PM

They have but not nearly as much. Seems like its gotten worse in the last 10 years or so.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 9:11:47 PM

Yeah, Jawknee is right. Hollywood has always pretended to be smarter than they are and attempt to lecture the masses on current events, but it has been particularly bad recently.

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fluffer nutter
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 12:26:58 AM

ROFL @ the comments by Ben. I'm in agreement with you. I'm just laughing because you're dead on right. Good job.

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tlpn99
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 3:55:50 PM
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Seen that film advertised and wanted to know what it was like.

So Ben you did not go and see The Lord Of The Rings trilogy in the cinema ?

Myself I have thought this to be one of the best films ever to go and see in the cinema as does my colleague in work. I have bought the original dvd release and then the cinematic release only because they were cheap at the time. Howevere I wold have bought them anyway in the future. :)

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 9:10:51 PM

I don't know why people keep saying that. I don't have anything against Peter Jackson. I've said multiple times already that he's a brilliant director, and I loved the LotR movies (I own them all, too).

"District 9" is just politically driven and preachy. It's the movie I didn't like, not the man.

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Jawknee
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 6:12:10 PM
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"Soooo sick of movies with political agendas"

amen to that! I'm tired of it too. I like to watch movies and play games to escape from reality for a bit. When I go watch a movie and I'm being told how terrible I am and I should be ashamed because I'm a white American male, I wanna throw a shoe at the screen. While I too noticed the agenda in District 9 it didn't bother me as much as let's say, the movie Briefed where the antagonist was a Hillary clinton hating(I mean come on, it's Hillary) homophobic white catholic republican. In District 9 I was just reminded of the crimes the apartheid government committed against many Africans. Didn't feel like a lecture to me. Not as bad as most uber liberal hollyweird movies these days. Like you Ben, I'm SICK OF IT!

Apart from that, I actually enjoyed the movie quite a bit. Hope there's a second one in the works.

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archs13
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 8:19:16 PM

it was kind of a good timing for me because right now in summer quarter im taking Popular Culture class in school and definitely i could see the agenda in the movie. (reminded me of the civil rights movement in the 60s) and with all the things that we're discussing in class right now about the culture wars, (corporatia, media, disia, officia, gaia etc.) that's why i said that almost every movie out there (if i were to watch them again) has some kind of political message in it if one of the characters are in one of those sides of the culture wars.

i really did enjoy the movie though because it's not a typical alien movie.. i might just be rooting for our demise in the sequel haha

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maxpontiac
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 7:37:41 PM
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Only going to comment on Valve, and it's going to be quick.

He will change his tune soon enough.

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xnonsuchx
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 9:05:03 PM
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Yeah, I don't think having a female main character has much (if anything) to do with people's dislike of BAYONETTA. Most just don't seem to find it as visually impressive as some others do. Maybe when there's a playable demo released, they'll give it a chance, but are just kinda doubtful now.

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Mr Bitey
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 9:44:38 PM
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Bayonetta looks amazing!... and the game looks pretty good also.

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Masterofallz
Sunday, August 16, 2009 @ 10:11:17 PM

Ha. Icwutudidthar.

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sunspider13
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 12:50:56 AM
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I for one am looking forward to Bayonetta, one of my friends is going to get it and if it plays well I just might get it. It just looks like silly fun and I'm all for that. I have no problems with a female lead as long as she's written well within the context of the game plot (I think that makes sense).

As for D9, Peter Jackson didn't direct it he was just a producer and he didn't write the script either (according to IMDB). I haven't seen it as of yet so I can't comment on if it was preachy or not. As with some sci-fi that falls along these lines I just hope it's a halfway smart flick.

As for Valve, why doesn't Gabe just issue a press release saying that they won't make games for the PS3? I mean really some of the statements he's made in the past about making games for the PS3 have all but said 'we don't like the PS3/it's too hard to learn/we don't have the time'. As far as I'm concerned he's a non-factor now, out of sight, out of mind.

As for my PGU: 2 more trophies for my first platinum. Of all the games that have trophies I think that inFamous has the right combination of easy/challenging requerments (sp) the addicting gameplay, and the sheer satisfaction when you do get the trophy. Hats off to Sucker Punch for making such a fun and awesome game. Is there talk of a sequel Ben or anybody? God I hope so. And I put in a pre-order for Batman AA this past week and I'm looking forward going toe-to-toe with the Joker and company.

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King James
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 12:54:22 AM
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Just saw District 9....Its off the chain! Two thumbs up!

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somethingrandom
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 1:55:12 AM
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The previews for the movie reveal it has a political agenda...

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Snaaaake
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 5:30:02 AM
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Hahaahaha, I've been laughing bout Valve.

They're just too stubborn to learn something new while other developers are getting better and better at developing games after the 'hell' they went through with PS3.

Wouldn't be surprised if they can't keep up with other developers in the future.

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TEG3SH
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 5:52:36 AM
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@ worldendswithyou sorry i cant reply to ur post but thanks for clearing things up

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Strker777
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 12:54:47 PM
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Me: How do u like them "Pork Chops" Gabe?
Gabe: Love em!!!
Me: No offense, but u remind me of Babe the pig.
Gabe:(being the big baby he is) Cries and run to mommy.
Me: Tattletale

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Strker777
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 12:57:43 PM
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@ ben
Opps sry didn't see ur post on not calling him names!:(

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