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Ben's Week In Review: August 30

Some silly tropical storm below us dropped a buncha rain today, but that's okay. We're heading into the biggest part of the year for the industry!

How many PS3 exclusives can't be done on the Xbox 360?

There have been a large number of developers who have said, "'such-and-such title' can't be done on the Xbox 360," and the latest is Naughty Dog in regards to Uncharted 2: Among Thieves. It's clear that this particular studio loves the PS3 and its immense capability, but in looking back at 2009, I'm beginning to recall other studio executives and industry insiders who have said the exact same thing; who have made it plain that their vision could not have been realized without the Cell processor and other benefits of Sony's machine. I heard Sucker Punch say it when talking about inFamous, we heard Guerrilla say it all the time in reference to Killzone 2, Hideo Kojima often mentioned it when talking about MGS4, and Quantic Dream just stated at GamesCom 2009 that Heavy Rain absolutely couldn't be produced on the Xbox 360. Now, all this being said, do you all remember when everyone was making fun of Sony, mocking the "hidden power" claim as they did with the PS2...?

Er...are we seeing it now? Yeah, I think so. What about Gran Turismo 5? Think Kazunori Yamauchi and Polyphony even considered the 360 with their grand plan? And what about Zipper Interactive choosing an online service to handle MAG? And while I know SCEA Santa Monica (an internal studio) is handling God of War III, do you think they'd say anything different? My friends, I think it's clear: the age of the PS3 is upon us.

They're doing it to us again...not sure my heart can handle it

Two years ago, Arnold and I were sitting there watching the Tokyo Game Show conference, eagerly anticipating the announcement of a Final Fantasy VII remake. There had been plenty of evidence to support the possibility, which is why we were so...well, anticipatory. And then, a mere hour later, we walked away totally disappointed, and since then, we've always been disappointed again and again when the rumor arose. We soon learned to ignore it and just move on; we had to accept the fact that such a project simply wasn't going to happen. Then, Kitase went and said what he said, and silly us, we've stepped aboard the emotional roller-coaster once again. It almost seems inevitable that we'll end on a low note (the cars never stop at the top of those hills), and yet, we can't help but become excited and pray that this year's TGS holds the announcement we've all been waiting for. We know Square-Enix is going to hold one of their behind-closed-doors conferences during the show and perhaps that's when it will happen...

Well, even if it doesn't, they should at least confirm a Japanese and US release date for Final Fantasy XIII. Here's hoping that June 21, 2010 launch date is accurate...

Personal gaming update

So I went and did it today: I got the PS3 Slim. I traded in my Day 1 60GB PS3, got that $150 towards the Slim, and went home happy. Now, I know what a lot of you are going to say, but bear in mind a few things: I have a PS2 Slim always hooked up, and since I've gotten it, I always use it exclusively to play my PS2 and PS1 games (I have over 100 total titles in that combined library, and I still play them). Thing is, and I'm not sure if anyone has noticed this, but while the original 60GB PS3 was indeed fully b/c, I noticed the playback wasn't perfect. For example, I noticed a definite sound issue when playing a lot of PS1 software; Castlevania: Symphony of the Night is only one example of sound effects cutting off at certain times. There were other small issues, too; issues I never have when playing those games on my PS2. Heck, it's the one big reason I have the PS2 Slim and I love it; won't ever get rid of it. I also really like the look of the new PS3, the hard drive is twice as big as the one I'm used to, and I backed up all my save data on a simple flash drive to transfer it over. My downloaded stuff is attached to my PSN account, so I got all that back, too.

I also got a Dual Shock 3 out of it (the 60GB came with the Sixaxis, remember?). So I'm ready to go now. :) As for games, Atlus is sending me the review copy for Demon's Souls this week - yay! - and there are plenty of games on the horizon. I'll be reviewing stuff like Katamari Forever, both hockey titles, both flight titles (IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey and Heroes Over Europe), and Afrika. It's crazy busy time for the next few months, so I figured I might as well have the updated system.

8/29/2009 Ben Dutka

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Comments (113 posts)

frylock25
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 10:16:28 PM
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oh my Ben you did what?!?! ur 60 gb? u gave it to them?!?! ok so i understand what ur sayin about it though. i personally dont play many ps2 games with all the ps3 games to be played and i have an 80 gb with b/c. i hope that 60 gb makes some one very happy ;) lol. you did seem pretty excited about that deal in the article you wrote. not to suprised to find out you went for it. so did you not have a dualshock until now?

im torn on the ff7, i want a remake but i feel it will get changed somehow to make it not what i loved. i would still buy it.

i really feel the xbox will be surpassed and blown away, the xbox 360 will look more like the wii as time goes on. 360 could have been something great had those production errors been fixed before release. now it just looks like a joke. dont get me wrong i think its a cool system and has done a lot for gaming, but the system itself in design just feels rushed and not finished.

if the 360 were a car it would be a lemon

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LimitedVertigo
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 11:14:20 PM

A FFVII remake will for sure have some negative aspects and wont please everyone. I can live with that, it's worth the risk to at least get a chance at playing through that game world again with better tech.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 11:25:09 PM

I just got the Silver Dual Shock 3 from Sony a few weeks ago; that was the first DS3 controller I had. Now I have two. ;)

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frylock25
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 11:29:37 PM

i agree i would love to see the game updated, it was one of my most played games ever. seeing those cutscenes way back then was just amazing. i had never played a ff game before that, but i fell in love and played 8 9 & 10 as they came out. 7 will always be my fav though, the materia setup was just so simple and fun. now a days a lot of games are spoken instead of the novels they used to be. that would change that game completly.

ben do u still have ur non dualshock six axis? they seam like they will be rare in a few years lol

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:01:27 AM

Yeah, I have one left.

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Zorigo
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 6:38:55 AM

talking 60gb, i dont understand why you didn't buy the ps3 slim, full price, then sell that 60gb on ebay, you woulda made more than a $150, and you coulda sold some old game/s you didn't like.

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th0mas21
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 4:08:10 PM

I agree with Zorigo, i just did a "what its worth" price check on Ebay for our 60GB ps3 and came up with $271 for the avg selling price. practically gets you a new ps3 that drains almost half the power... im in the same boat, 60GB launch ps3, but rarely play ps2/1 games... i may have to consider this

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kevinater321
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 10:22:12 PM
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I completely agree with you, and that happens with almost all ps3 exclusives. The developers always say that that game cannot be done on the Xbox 360. And every time i hear that i smile to myself and mock my cousin. But i can't agree with you trading in your ps3. You just spent 150 bucks for a 150 gig hard drive and a smaller system. Oh well your choice.

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frylock25
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 10:26:35 PM

maybe Bens week in review next week will have a section called "what have i done, i miss my 60gb" lol ;)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 10:30:23 PM
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Even IF Kitase's comments are to be taken to heart, then I still wouldn't expect a VII remake to be announced at TGS man. Give it two more years at least before you get your panties in a bunch, they wouldn't announce a game that hasn't even had a chance to undergo early development phases. I have a feeling we will see Kingdom Hearts 3 before FFVII Redux. Hang in there and believe.

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tes37
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 10:51:21 PM
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I believe the developers who say their games aren't possible on an xbox 360. They should know.

I haven't finished FFVII yet, so I'm one of the few who gets to wait on a remake with more patience.

Don't let anyone tell you that you made a mistake trading your ps3 Ben. It's your ps3, and your money, so it's entirely your decision what to do with it.

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LimitedVertigo
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 11:12:50 PM

Your logic is flawed. No ones disputing the fact that it's his decision, simply commenting on whether or not it was a good idea. (from a money standpoint it wasn't)

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tes37
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 11:22:21 PM

What's flawed about an opinion or doing what you want to do with your own money? Your logic may be what's flawed.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 7:13:47 PM

It's flawed because you're saying anyone that questions his decision is questioning his ability to make a decision which is incorrect. Pretty narrow minded to refuse advice on such flawed grounds.

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tes37
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 7:41:12 PM

You need to reread that because that's not what it says.

Why do you find something negative to say to the majority of people who comment here? You never hardly speak civilized to anyone. So I'd appreciate it if you avoid me. Thank you.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 10:00:33 PM

You're taking things far too personal on a videogame website. Sorry but the real world is full of people with differing opinions. I wasn't being mean spirited or personally attacking you, simply correcting what I felt was an obvious flaw aimed at me and others that believe Ben got scammed by Gamestop.

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tes37
Monday, August 31, 2009 @ 6:54:21 AM

I apologize. You're right, I should lighten up.

But, Ben consciously gave up his ps3, there is no scam involved.

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Scarecrow
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 10:57:24 PM
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I don't blame Ben either

I've ALWAYS SAID in this website that everyone should play their damn ps2 games on a ps2. And ps1 games can be played in all Sony consoles.

I do agree 'bout the sound issues ps1 games have on the ps3. Those which haven't been released on the PSN store.

Anyway ps3 > everything else in this Generation anyway

It's already clear

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LimitedVertigo
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 11:01:10 PM
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I will NEVER give away my 60gig PS3.

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KingRed
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 11:44:24 PM

I agree Limited. I just could not give my 60 away. Plus I like B/C on my Ps3. Only reason I don't use my Ps2 is because my friend has it.

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LimitedVertigo
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 11:10:06 PM
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Forgot to mention, Ben you must be made of money. You could easily sell your original 60 gig PS3 on ebay for $400 dollars.

This is a pretty decent deal for those with PS3s lacking BC but for those that do you're being taken to the cleaners.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 11:26:54 PM

They're not being "taken to the cleaners" if they have a PS2 Slim like I do. There's zero benefit to keeping it; it doesn't do anything the Slim doesn't do besides b/c.

And I don't care about the eBay thing. $150 for a new system is fine by me. ...I hardly think that dollar number qualifies me as being "made of money."

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 11:30:20 PM

If he got $400 off ebay and bought a new slim, then he would only have saved himself $100, this way he saves himself $150.

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Sir Shak
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 11:44:12 PM

World , can you lend me some money ?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:02:42 AM

sure thing buddy how much u need?

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Sir Shak
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:24:55 AM

YOU do the math !

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Highlander
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:27:18 AM

@ worlds, if you exchange your PS3 60GB for a $150 discount on a PS3 Slim, you end up paying $150 + a PS3 for your PS3 Slim.

If you sell that PS3 60GB on Ebay for $400 and then purchase a slim at $299, you end up with a net gain of $100. So by selling it on ebay, you end up $250 ahead compaired to where you'd be if you trade your PS3 60GB with GameStop. That's $250. 4-5 games on BluRay, or more if you go Platinum.

The GameStop thing isn't a good deal. Ben's right, it's his money, and his PS3 he can do whatever he wants, but financially speaking, you are losing approximately $250 compared to selling your PS3 60GB on ebay and then buying a PS3 Slim. Of course if you don't have $300 lying around you'll have to wait to be paid for your old PS3 first, before you can get your PS3 slim system which is a major disadvantage.

Any way you look at it, GameStop is making a killing with this deal, it's not a good deal for consumers, but it may work for some.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:44:46 AM

woops, hehe, smoked too much of the greenery tonight :D

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___________
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 1:47:37 AM

HAH!
i just sold my ps3 60GB for 900 bucks off ebay.
well 700 for the ps3 and 200 for shipping, if i traded it in at EB they were only going to give me 200.
yay i just made myself 200 bucks profit (700-500) by sitting on the lounge watching tv :).
thats the only reason im getting a slim, if i couldent sell it on ebay i wouldent of got one.
but 1 brand new ps3 and 200 bucks how could i say no?
well its not really profit, im spending it on that 150 dollar batman AA collectors edition, and the other 50 on the LE for uncharted 2.
only if making 200 bucks was always that easy.

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ShadowRunner
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 3:43:16 AM

LOL @ Sir Shak

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fluffer nutter
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 6:20:15 PM

The ONE great thing about having B/C, on a PS3, for me, is that it upscales and looks tolerable on a large screen HDTV. If the PS2 did this, then I wouldn't give a crap about having B/C on a PS3.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 10:02:45 PM

Wireless controller and virtual memory card that I have backed up, I'd say those 2 alone are reason to keep my 60 gig for playing PS2 games.

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Jawknee
Monday, August 31, 2009 @ 1:06:54 AM

I'm with Limited. I picked up a Slim last week and thought about hawking my 60gb off on eBay. Beh, I see more value in keeping it. It's B/C, has memory card slots an can be used as a second blue Ray player for the bedroom.

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Scarecrow
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 11:11:41 PM
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I'll keep my beautiful 60GB 'cause I like the design more, so yeah

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Bugzbunny109
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 11:27:31 PM
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Me love me 60gb. If I wanted a slim; I would save up for it. I love my fat ps3 :)

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Scarecrow
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 11:43:01 PM

Same situation
I'd rather save up and buy a Slim

will never sell my Busty ps3

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KingRed
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 11:45:45 PM

I will be doing this too. glad it's payday next week.

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ThePearlJamer
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 11:42:04 PM
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What's the news with the 250 GB PS3 Slim I've recently been hearing about...I was shocked when I found out about it because usually all the important stuff regarding playstation branded items is reported hear first...

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:03:38 AM

I have no idea what you're talking about. There's no such system.

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ThePearlJamer
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:31:55 AM

I was refering to these;

http://kotaku.com/5340315/is-there-a-250gb-ps3-slim-as-well

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/08/18/fcc-document-indicates-sony-planning-250gb-ps3-slim/

Both seem like they come from fairly reliable sources...

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www
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 8:22:20 AM

Yea i heard something about a 250GB Slim..

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ThePearlJamer
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 11:46:44 PM
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WHERE"S OUR BATMAN REVIEW BEN!!!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:02:08 AM

It's coming...probably tomorrow.

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Sir Shak
Saturday, August 29, 2009 @ 11:47:52 PM
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Nicely done , are you going to review the Slim ?

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:01:55 AM

...what's there to review outside of all the details and coverage we gave you already? ;)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:03:10 AM

Maybe it's time for another State of the Console Address.

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Highlander
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:43:55 AM

My fellow PlayStationers,

The state of the PlayNation has never been better. We continue to see rising numbers of exclusive games and good reviews are the norm. User numbers are increasing rapidly and we have two new systems, one of which is already available at retail. Not only that but the cost of joining the PlayNation has never been lower. At only $299, members of the consumer world can join us, they can play BluRay movies - including new audio streaming options; they can join us on PlayStation Network, and in Home, without extra charge; they can play games including the best that the original PlayStation had to offer. All of this, my fellow PlayNationers, for a mere $299.

Some may point to our peers in the X-nation or the N-nation and say they have it good. Some may say those other nations have it better. But I say no, they do not.

The X-nation must pay admission each year to remain a part of their nation. They do not have access to the advanced high definition movies we have, and even wireless networking is beyond them, requiring further investment in infrastructure.

The N-nation, entranced by the low cost of entry and well promoted motion control system continues to prosper, in their own minds. Their land is nearly devoid of new games, and what they do have is of a lower standard. A lower standard visually, and quality. Although the cost of joining their ranks may be a little less than the cost of joining the PlayNation, we continue to see refugees joining us. Leaving their families and friends behind, sometimes sneaking back to being others out with them. The authorities of the N-nation are not concerned, they believe they are superior.

But, my fellow PlayNationers, we have nothing to fear. The state of the PlayStation is good, the state of the PlayNation has never been better. We are poised for unprecedented growth, and prosperity in games. Titles such as Gran Turismo, Ratchet and Clank- A Crack in Time, and of course Uncharted 2 - Among Thieves. With titles like these and all that the PlayStation 3 has to offer, we have no fears.

My friends we have nothing to fear, except fear itself.

Play well my friends. Play well, and play often.

I bid you a good evening, and a good night.

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Sir Shak
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 2:25:19 AM

Is there an election coming up that I haven't heard about ?

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frylock25
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 3:43:12 AM

highlander that was awesome lol as i read that i imagine that to have the booming mic voice being read to thousands of people in the playnation as if it were MLK speech in the 60's lol

well done very imaginative

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VersusAlby
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 2:31:39 PM


@Highlander
you should work for SONY ^^

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JMO_INDY
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 9:10:23 PM

Anyone else read that while sounding like a southern baptist priest? I know I did. hmmmmm?

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Victor321
Monday, August 31, 2009 @ 5:48:35 PM

Highlander, you were beautiful. You deserve the best in life!!!

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somethingrandom
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 1:35:20 AM

Yeah, the Wii sports bundle is still $279. Rip-off.

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Jawknee
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:00:18 AM
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"the age of the PS3 is upon us."

ha!

Sigh..I just wish FFXIII was one of these titles that couldn't be done on the PS3. Kinda makes me think this claim FFXIII would utilize the PS3 to the fullest is bs.

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Fane1024
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:40:13 AM

I don't think that's what you meant to say.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:49:18 AM

lol, he's a secret Xbot!

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Jawknee
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 2:58:55 AM

Whooooops!

I meant, I wish FFXIII was one of these great only possible on PS3 exclusives.

•Facepalm•

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King James
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:01:34 AM
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I turn 23 today (8/29)...yay!

Anyways, I will never trade in my original 20GB PS3 sku for a Slim. I love the b/c on my PS3 and not to mention that it can display the older games in HD. Some PS2 games support progressive scan and games like SotC and GoW2 look great on my HDTV. I never had any problems running my PS1 or PS2 games. Guess Ben found some exceptions.

I could care less about any new S-E PS3 titles. Lets just say S-E announces a FF7 remake at this year's TGS. When will it come out? 2011? 2012? How about 2013? FF13 (all 3 games) have been announced for 3 years. We don't even have a release date for one of those games. NOT ONE! S-E can keep their games announcements. They're worse than Sony in 2007.

As far as games that can't be done on other consoles...I think I'll be more satisfied with superior multiplats. I've been expecting superior exclusives since Uncharted: Drake's Fortune. Its almost a given. But these multiplats performing better on an inferior machine is maddening. I hope that the new CryEngine3 will change this. Supposedly the PS3 version looks better. If so, I hope developers pick that engine up instead of the Unreal engine.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:03:31 AM

Happy Birthday Jim!

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Sir Shak
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:24:09 AM

Happy birthday James .

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Fane1024
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:42:26 AM

you _couldn't_ care less

and happy birthday!


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Scarecrow
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:46:54 AM

Happy Birthday man!

It's your day, take care and enjoy

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King James
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 2:31:56 AM

Thx guys. And for the grammar correction Fane. ;)

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frylock25
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 3:51:10 AM

i agree with the multiplat thing, when xbox came out it was more powerful than ps2 and it didnt stop developers from makin games look better. now all of a sudden they have to make the games equal when sony has the better machine. i dont get it. what kind of damn scam is this?!

any way happy bday man

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King James
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 11:18:50 AM

@frylock

Exactly my point Fry-man. Who the f%(^ said that these games have to equal anyway? We all know that MW2 would look a whole lot better on the 3. We all know that FF13, Tekken 6, and GTA should look better on the 3. Whats the deal?

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JMO_INDY
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 9:13:57 PM

My b-day is tommorow,(31st) i'll be 15, yay!

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pSmingO
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:02:33 AM
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im dying for that slim, but only 150 for fat ps3 at gamestop, thats a rip off, specially after i bought it for 600 plus tax!!

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piratedrunk
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 1:19:44 AM
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Still can't help but feel the FF7 remake is this top secret exclusive..

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Deleted User
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 1:20:43 AM
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Yeah, when I first got my 60 Gig me and my friends went through and tried playing all of Indigo Prophecy on it, and we almost did...till it froze somewhere near the end, and we found a brick wall in the game that the PS3 wouldnt move past, worked fine on a ps2 later though

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___________
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 1:36:40 AM
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i hope that june 21st date is false.
6 months to localize and ship a game out side of japan.
if it takes that long i would be expecting half the bloody game changed, why does it take so long to record the voices in the other languages and ship them out.
i mean bayonetta is coming out what 2 3 months after the japan release so why cant SE do the same?
i dont see games like MW2 or assassins creed 2 coming out months after western releases dont they have to be localized to?
it just seems to me that japanese developers are the only ones treating western fans like this and thats not fair.
if thats how they want to treat their fans than they can go jump.

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Deleted User
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 4:08:40 AM

alot more dialog/text in general I'd assume

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Fane1024
Monday, August 31, 2009 @ 3:53:17 AM

It works both ways. For instance, Japan just got Gears 2 (07/30). I agree that it's absurd.

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BigBoss4ever
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 2:45:16 AM
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"...As for games, Atlus is sending me the review copy for Demon's Souls this week - yay! " -- of all the things u said and did here Ben, this is the most envious part. :P

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Scarecrow
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 1:56:38 PM

Yeah lucky :(

I really want that game

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sunspider13
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 5:18:22 PM

Looking forward to Demon Souls as well.

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dillonthebunny
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 3:36:48 AM
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there will come a time when you wont play your PS2 games anymore, then you may look back on this deal and wish that maybe you should of.

theres nothing wrong with the deal, In the UK we have the same sort thing, swap my 60 gig PS3 for a slim and only play £150.

apart from B/C, changing my HDD a while back (tho I stil have the old one) ..and having more USB ports and card readers, I was really tempted. and out of pure lazyness I decided not to.

It makes sense to trade up if you have a PS2, a USB hub and a sense to be a lil 'greener' towards the planet.

nothing wrong with trading in the big console for the lil one, as long as theyre as stable and sturdy as the old PS3.. there isnt a problem in my eyes.

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www
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 8:29:12 AM

Yes I think its a sweet deal. I keep saying ppl should play there ps2 games on a ps2, cause I bet most of those ps2 dvds are scratched,cracked,warped and all kinds of s**t, and they just letting they blu ray lens suffer! And when their Bluray drives die, they don't get it 'sigh'.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, August 31, 2009 @ 12:58:08 AM

"there will come a time when you wont play your PS2 games anymore,"

Really?!

I still play my "NES, SNES, Genesis, PS1, N64, GC, and even get out one of my Atari 5200s every few years.

Great games never get old.

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www
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 8:32:03 AM
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But I recall EPIC GAMES saying the same thing, that Gears of War 2 could NOT be done on the PS3,hmph!

So Ben, you just couldn't pick up RE5...

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 4:41:30 PM

they must have meant it couldn't be done on PS3 because for legal reasons ;P

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cLoudou
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 5:13:34 PM

I believe any 360 exclusive can be ported to the PS3, can't say the same about PS3 exclusives though.

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shadowpal2
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 9:11:39 AM
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The PS3 I really really really really really want...is that Yakuza 3 limited edition one. OH BOY...I'm drooling all over that...it looks so beautiful - I NEED IT.

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tlpn99
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 9:28:31 AM
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Congrats on your new PS3 slim Ben hope it lasts as long as your trusty 60gb one did. I dont like the look of the slim the shinyness has gone. I'll keep my PS3 big chunky beast. The double the size hd is great but it will wont make me get rid of my b/c PS3. Ok I have the 2 but its away somewhere so it would mean digging it out to play PS2 games.

That's another thing I dont like buying consoles on day 1 of release as they can be full of issues I would rather wait and make sure if it has any problems and they are ironed out.

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Bugzbunny109
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:21:00 PM
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I am still using a sixaxis :( I need to move on to the next generation! lol. I will get one when I great the LBP game of the year thingy.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 4:41:55 PM

I'm still using a sixaxis too, mainly because I can get a game for price of the damn thing.

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fluffer nutter
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 7:46:57 PM

You should watch for sales. I've seen them for as low as $18 before.

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Fane1024
Monday, August 31, 2009 @ 4:00:28 AM

Believe it or not, I still use a DualShock2 most of the time (including right now), though not for most games. It saves on battery power. And I have a DS3.

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ctd669
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 12:25:52 PM
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Umm...If I were you I would've just gone out and bought one... I like the way my fat 80 gig looks way better than the slim... It looks less quality made than the shiny fat ones do, not to mention the fact that I paid $500 bucks for it and it works great... No way would I trade a console that I paid $500 bucks a year ago to get a $150 dollar credit on a console that only cost $299?! Doesn't make sense...BTW I hope you remembered to deactivate your old 60 gig from your account or those days of DL'ing movies and TV shows from the store are over.

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Jawknee
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 1:40:32 PM

It's quiet. Reason enough for me! ;)

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tes37
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 2:43:38 PM

It also doesn't make your room feel like a furnace. The slim looks way better in person than in pictures. The matte finish looks like a ps2 and is not charcoal gray as some have suggested. It's a half inch deeper, but smaller everywhere else. As far as quality, it's laughable to suggest Sony would ruin their reputation by selling an inferior product to the fat one.

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Fane1024
Monday, August 31, 2009 @ 4:14:14 AM

You can download purchased content to five different PS3s, without deactivation, though you should deactivate any system you no longer own.

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Highlander
Monday, August 31, 2009 @ 10:11:40 AM

@Fane
Some content is more limited than that, the "5 systems" 'rule' isn't consistent. You'll find yourself pretty disappointed if you don't deactive your old system before selling/trading it. Seriously, the commenter is correct. if you sell or trade your original "fat" PS3 to purchase a new PS3 slim, YOU MUST DEACTIVATE YOUR OLD PS3 FIRST.

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Oxvial
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 2:00:23 PM
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There;s a rumor about the Ps3 slim being more slow compared with the Phat version...you notice something about this Ben?

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tes37
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 2:35:09 PM

I may be tripping, but I thought inFamous seemed more responsive on the slim. Ok, I know I'm not Ben, but I think that's just fear-mongering against the slim by people who have nothing better to do.

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www
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 3:33:00 PM

Oxvial, I think it has to do with the firmware. The spiderman font ps3 logo doesn't pop up on games startup on the Slim and yes they say DVD movies load slower but, I feel its a firmware issue. I bet we'll have the same performance and features with update 3.00 on both phat and slim. I think the spiderman font will be replaced by the new font, gosh I now love the new font.

I don't believe the Slim is slower, once again I reckon its the firmware.

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Highlander
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 4:59:54 PM

I'd be awfully surprised if the Slim was slower than the phat. For a start it uses the latest 45nm version of the Cell. As with every CPU design each revision improves upon the last and the newer 45nm versions are not just cooler and less energy hungry, they are also better hardware with enhancements and fixes to the design that have occurred since the original 90nm version way, way back.

If anything, the slim will be a little faster and responsive when compared to the original.

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fluffer nutter
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 7:49:04 PM

Not every CPU revision has followed your comment. Let's go back to 2004-'05 for proof. ;)

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JMO_INDY
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 9:12:53 PM

The Blu-Ray drive is slower, not the cell or games, just movies starting up, by only a couple seconds tjough, it said so on G4.c o m. Thats propably it.

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Highlander
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 11:57:30 PM

Going back to 2004/05 is no indicator here.

The BluRay drive isn't slower.

The Cell in the PS3 slim is the second die shrink, and third or fourth revision to the Cell BE itself. The chip is as fast or faster than the 90nm Cell, and actually can clock higher than the 90nm version. However it's locked to the same 3.2GHz clock as the original 90nm Cell.

Stop looking for faults. If you're looking for a fault, then every instance of abnormal behavior, no matter how slight or insignificant becomes a reason to doubt.

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jerocarson
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 3:52:00 PM
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mMm...

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JDC80
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 5:12:54 PM
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I might trade in my 40gb PS3 next year for the slim, even though I love my PS3 I also would like not to worry about how much memory I have left when I put in a new game.

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Victor321
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 5:35:43 PM
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I like games.

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sunspider13
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 6:25:09 PM

I like cake and games.

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Fane1024
Monday, August 31, 2009 @ 4:17:45 AM

I like eggs.

Kudos to anyone who gets the reference.

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sunspider13
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 5:49:17 PM
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I'm getting a slim for my gf for xmas so I won't be getting rid of my phat. Will be getting a new PS2 slim very soon however, my niece decided it needed water and poured some into it, lol. I wasn't mad she's only 2.

OMG, FFVII. Would I like to see a remake? Maybe. Am I tired of hearing possibly-maybe-probably-not. SAY YES OR NO ALREADY! Sorry but I'm over it.

Never had a doubt about the power of the PS3. The devs that make games for it know it, we know it, hopefully with the price drop people that were on the fence before will be able to experience it for themselves.

Can't wait for your review of Batman, Ben. Did you have as much fun as I did (and still am with the challenge rooms and playing story mode on hard)? Also looking forward to a review of Demon Souls as well.

@Highlander
very nice speech. i nominate you for secratary of state for PS3 nation.

Peace I'm out.

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BeezleDrop
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 5:57:58 PM
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What kind of games? Happy Birthday, and isn't the latest firmware hitting this Tuesday? I would be way more open to just buying another PS3(yes a slim). Like so many others I worked so hard for my 40gig, I just cannot part with it.

Apparently I would be going green if I bought one. I'm not really hating on Demon Souls but what is all the hype about?!!!

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Craigo
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 7:28:51 PM
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Ben! The 60Gb is the best PS3 out there. Tut tut...

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BigBoss4ever
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 8:52:39 PM

agree fully, if i had the 60G, i would keep it for 10 + years until dies, then engrave it with a legendary sign on it. and salute for it. :P

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www
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 9:18:11 PM
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LOL Wow, some of you guys really like to cherish material things. Yes the 60GB is complete but Ben trading it in for a Slim isn't really bad, besides he's probably scared of YLOD, so he's tryna avoid that.

My 60GB YLOD'd on me a long time ago, I didn't bother getting it fixed, I let it go and got myself the 80GB and moved on.

If some of you find it HARD to give up on machines, then I wonder how hard it'll be to give up on a relationship with a girl, that has lasted for years but still won't work out. ;)

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fluffer nutter
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 9:44:15 PM

Here's the angle, from a gamer that likes to stretch his dollar. One could potentially sell their 60GB PS3 for around $400, then turn around and buy a new 120GB PS3 for $240 because of MS giving twice the cash back through Bing. Then, with that money that was saved, $160, the potential to buy accessories and a couple games is there. Plus, some people really like the features contained in their original PS3. SACD playback, card readers, Linux installation, 4 USB ports, etc. It really is full featured.

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johnld
Sunday, August 30, 2009 @ 9:57:53 PM

I got the ylod on my 60gb too. i sent it to sony and got sent back a refurb 60gb. For me, it wasnt because i didnt want to let go, it was way cheaper to repair it than buy a new one. 149 for repair or 399 to buy a new one. Although my fan can get really loud now but i guess thats just a precaution they put in since launch ps3s get hotter and i guess their old fan cycle wasnt keeping up so they need to turn it up a bit. Anyways, i still got a 60gb so im not trading it in at all.

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orangpelupa
Monday, August 31, 2009 @ 8:14:22 AM
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"How many PS3 exclusives can't be done on the Xbox 360?"

hello, i think, ALL ps3 exclusives can't be done on the Xbox 360.

even if you use uber powerful PC, it still cant play PS3 exclusives.


look at Uncharted, the engine is designed specifically for PS3 and very optimized for PS3.

to make that exclusive game to go to xbox 360, naughty dog need to rework the engine again. and it wont be the same with the PS3.

they using platform specific engine. not multiplatform engine. so its impossible for xbox 360.

and then we look at FF13, it created using crystal tools. an multiplatform engine. so the engine can be compiled to run on X360 or PS3 or even PC if SQEX really wants.

and sorry for my bad english. and i think i will get negative vote again >__<

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Jawknee
Monday, August 31, 2009 @ 9:12:36 AM

I understood you.

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