Ben's Week In Review: January 10
'looks around' Why does it feel like I'm looking down the October/November barrel? What is with all these games coming out in January, February and March?!
This past week's Bayonetta/Darksiders conundrum
Okay, so I've played both now and although I only just started Bayonetta, I feel I can make some accurate comments about both games. I read Arnold's review for Darksiders and a friend brought his copy over today; I played through the introductory portion and watched about an hour's worth of his saved game (he's about 11 hours in). It's quite fun and the mechanics are solid, even though it certainly isn't the prettiest title I've ever seen. I really like the whole atmosphere; it's just so dark and gritty...it's kinda like the style of Gears superimposed over the format for God of War, you know? Worth playing, IMO. But then I opened up Bayonetta and here's where I'll toss in a quick side note-
Arnold has the PS3 version of Bayonetta and I have the Xbox 360 version. Because these two versions are reportedly very different from one another, we'll want to give you a comparison review. So that's coming.
I won't give away too much before the review goes up but I just really love the over-the-top cheesiness of the game. Those who frown upon it just don't get it; the entire purpose of this game is to feature a female character that may as well be half-witch, half-stripper. It's why she sucks on little lollipops, spanks her enemies, and has numerous abilities that often leave her curvaceous form quite exposed. It's silly and absurd and maxed out in the "cheese department." But that's the point. It never once takes itself seriously but the gameplay...that's some serious sh**. Just unbelievable. Stay tuned.
FFXIII might really BE the end of an era 'sob'
I almost wanted to cry when I wrote the article in question; Square-Enix has clearly hinted at a drastically new direction for their flagship role-playing franchise. Obviously, they feel they need to innovate and progress in order to keep pace with Western developers and the general advancement of the industry. But do they really think it means nothing when half the damn PS3 population in Japan buys FFXIII? Do they really think the fans suddenly want a "new direction?" Granted, one could point towards FFXII and say that represented a definite removal from the norm but in my eyes, it was still distinctly "Final Fantasy." I think Square-Enix is inferring something else; I think they're going to try to force the series into a WRPG or action/RPG mold so as to somehow appeal to the twitch gamers who can't tear themselves away from titles that require constant button presses and no attention whatsoever.
I can't even begin to tell you how annoyed I will be if this happens. Hell, if it does, I'll go back and play every real FF from IV on through XII again. Oh yes, I will.
Personal gaming update
Halo 3: ODST annoyed me so I haven't gone back to it yet, but I believe I'm somewhere near the end. I started Resident Evil 5 and I know a lot of you have been wondering what I think of it, especially after we scored it a little lower than other sources. Well, I'm on Chapter 3-1 and while I like it - I like every RE, really - they really needed to abandon the tank controls for this one. See, it was okay in previous installments for two reasons: 1. the enemies were nowhere near as fast as they are in RE5, and 2. with the exception of RE4, they all presented us with a true third-person camera view, in that you could see your character and all of the screen. Plus, there were screens; i.e., separate sections that could only hold so many enemies. In RE5, the very speed and scope of the game is just begging me to move while shooting...sadly, it doesn't work as well in this format.
But it's still fun and I'm sure I'll finish it. The AI is good; Sheva isn't irritating me and she's an effective companion. Perhaps the best co-op tandem except for Elika and Prince in Prince of Persia. And yes, as you've already seen, I've started Bayonetta, which is just...plain...cool. I'm never playing without a smile on my face. ;)
1/9/2010 Ben Dutka
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BikerSaint
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 10:27:54 PM
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St_Jimmy
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:07:07 AM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:37:32 AM
Charger7302
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 10:32:53 PM
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I've heard you guys at psxe weren't so keen of the first one, but from what other sources say this game is shaping up really good(much like the 1st).
Will you guys be reviewing Mass Effect 2?
WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 10:50:49 PM
Qubex
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 11:48:00 PM
...the pain... I cannot bring myself to doing it...
Q!
"i am home"
Alienange
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:37:34 AM
Qubex
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:47:42 AM
Alienange
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:59:35 AM
I don't know where you live Qubex, but in Canada our Futureshop occasionally sells the Arcade for 149 new. I wouldn't buy a box used if I were you.
GuernicaReborn
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 2:03:31 AM
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Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 7:12:56 AM
SympoziumPawa
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 7:17:06 AM
GuernicaReborn
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:05:40 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 10:48:14 PM
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Oxvial
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 11:11:15 PM
Kowhoho
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 11:12:06 PM
SnipeySnake
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 11:35:56 PM
Qubex
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:48:56 AM
tlpn99
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:57:56 AM
jerocarson
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 11:17:46 PM
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Snaaaake
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 11:29:43 PM
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I'm recommending Bayonetta to everyone.
And Ben, do you think there will be patch to fix the issues? Frame rate isn't a big deal but the load times are killing me.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 12:25:41 AM
OtisFeelgood
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:33:54 AM
apofisboricua
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:20:37 PM
I really dont know what kind of 360 you have because my version of Bayonetta on my XBOX 360 has a few graphical problems, just like every game. First I must say that I havent seeing, playing or try the PS3 version besides the demo. I was one of the first here who posted about how superior the 360 version looked compared to that PS3 demo. I also said that the 360 version suffered from minor slowdowns and from graphical tearing in some stages. So if the 360 version which is better has these minor problems I could really cant imagine how bad the PS3 port really is.
Also I said that the game takes no longer than 7 hours to finish it, yes you can go back to replay it etc, but its $60 you are paying for it and everybody complained when Heavenly Sword could be beaten in 6 hours.
Also I like the game references to past Sega clasics, the story is a little weird and overall the game is real fun. I really dislikes how the press is treating this game as the best actioner available and said it was even better that Kamiya's classic Devil May Cry (the first one), in my opinion it isnt. But who cares for my opinion at the end im not a game journalist, Im just a 32 year old gamer who didnt sucumbs to the cheeseness of Bayonetta. Dont missunderstand me its not a bad game and the 360 version is better but it also is not the game the media wants us to believe it is.
Sorry about my grammar dudes.
PEACE AND GAMING!!
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:36:35 AM
And I've noticed the same issues in the 360 version, too, but they're hardly what I would call severe. For the most part, you really have to be looking for the problems in the 360 version (most of the time) while in the PS3 version, I think you can't avoid them.
And while I love DMC, gaming has come a long way since then. Bayonetta's combat really does beat the tar out of the original DMC, but it more on par with DMC3 or DMC4.
Temjin001
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 12:40:09 AM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:01:45 AM
Alienange
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:41:53 AM
karneli lll
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 7:54:49 PM
SnipeySnake
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 8:16:41 PM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 8:48:32 PM
And yes, the 360 version is that much better than the PS3 version (I believe; I have to talk to Arnold).
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Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 12:58:42 AM
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saying that is saying the combat in bayonetta is better than GOW because darksiders is almost the same.
not as brutal, not as many combos, not as many enemies on screen but the speed and feel of it is exactly the same.
darksiders kicks the living crap out of bayonetta in almost every aspect.
the only complaints i have with darksiders is
1 it takes so freaking long to get all the weapons, upgrading everything IS SO GOD DAM EXPENSIVE! 1 health flask 1500 souls jesus tap dancing christ!
2 the boss battles LAST SO FREAKING LONG!
GOW boss battles last longer than most games, gets anoying at times but darksiders is 10 times longer.
i just beat the second boss where you have to use the train ramps to beat her up.
and honestly it took so long i thought i was doing something wrong and started using my star or the horn to hurt her.
since it took so long i thought i was doing something wrong where i was not you just need to hit her once shes down.
if there was a health gauge like most games i would of not had that problem.
but why do the boss battles have to last so long?
most games a boss is down you repeat the process 3 times and your finished.
darksiders you repeat the process 15 times.
3 use a switch or something and sometimes there wont be a video showing what you just did.
at times you walk into a massive room with 4 or so doors and nothing tells you which one you have to use.
or there was this massive room with water, i walked in and no cutscene.
what do i have to do?
do i climb to the top?
do i need to escape through a hole in the wall?
everytime i enter a new room there should be a cut scene showing me what needs to be done.
most games do that, but darksiders sometimes does not.
4 combat is far to scripted and simple.
instead of having 3 finishing moves on each enemy like GOW darksiders has one per enemy.
just gets boring using the same attacks over and over again.
5 needs WAY, WAY! more combos.
its very basic, just square 3 times or square twice and triangle once combos are very restricted.
no DMC or NG or mortal kombat 40 hit combos here.
6 no where near enough enemies on screen.
your in a massive area with only 5 enemies trying to kill you?
come on this is the PS3 not the PS2.
7 the whole game has a cheap rushed feeling to it, theres no seance of polish like uncharted 2 has.
it feels like a rushed GOW, a brilliant game no doubt, best ive played in a long time but it lacks the polish and scale GOW has.
hopefully vergil does a sequel to this, makes the changes i mentioned and puts it on a much grander scale.
as many reviews have said everything there is well done it just needs more, on a grander scale.
it needs the production values of a high AAA like GOW or uncharted.
it just feels like it was held back by something, be it console reasons, budget reasons, or time reasons.
remove those restrictions and i believe darksiders could be one of the best games ever release.
it has that power begging to come out hopefully a high up studio will realize that and bring it to its full petentional
if i was sony or M$ id be rushing out and throwing millions at this IP because done right with high production values like GOW this could be a contender for GOW.
its there, it has the feel just lacks the scale.
this is the game i would like to see santa monica work on next, just like GOW just needs the talent of a high production studio.
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:03:10 AM
Oxvial
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:34:04 AM
Alienange
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:48:33 AM
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Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 7:16:23 AM
because the combat in darksiders and GOW is almost the same give or take a few restrictions.
i think ive got a new contender for most over rated game of the century.
yup move over GTAIV bayonetta now has taken your spot.
St_Jimmy
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:15:08 AM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 8:57:27 PM
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Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 5:46:50 AM
just because i complain about something does not mean i dont like it, or think its a bad game.
i love AC2 and infamous but still complain about a million and one things about it.
it just means it could of been done better.
you really think GTA IV deserves a 10?
how about bayonettas meta score of 9.2?
the only games i think deserved the score they got are MGS4 still one of the best and uncharted 2.
everything else is overrated and some games underrated like DMC4 or burnout paradise, neither get the praise they deserve.
or halo 3 ODST.
9s across the board you got to be kidding me!
come on you can not say GTA IV was not disappointing after playing GTA 3, GTA VC and GTA SA.
all of those took what the series had and either added to it or made it better.
GTA IV did neither of that, it removed most of the game play and added nothing, improved nothing besides the graphics.
as for bayonetta, i would go as far as to say DMC 4 had better combat than bayonetta i loved the devil bringer arm and how you could string together attacks it felt so smooth and polished.
only thing driving me absolutely INSANE! to the point i dont want to play it anymore in darksiders is everythings a puzzle.
normally puzzles are one every few levels and your always told what you have to do like in uncharted 2 or GOW.
darksiders, a different story, it chucks you into a massive room with 4 different doors.
where am i suppose to go?
up, down, left, right?
i HATE! screwing around wasting time checking every pathway to figure out which way is the right way.
the game should hint at the way, its my job to understand the hint, the game is suppose to give me info not leave me in the dark.
another prime example of that is the massive spider you fight.
you have to throw the bodies in her mouth than while shes munching on them switch to your glove and pound the ice off her back.
but is there anything telling you, or even hinting at that?
NOPE!
i died 2 times and spent almost 1.5 hours just attacking her.
thats whats really killed darksiders for me, i loved it to death, i was giving it a 10 but because of that simple annoyance i dont want to play it anymore.
shame such a small simple thing completley destroyed what was a brilliant game.
just like borderlands they take a brilliant game than destroy it by riddling it with bugs and repetitive respawning enemies.
how am i suppose to complete a mission if theres a million enemies nipping my a$$ and every time i kill all of them more respawn.
O and you still have not answered my original question.
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hellish_devil
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:37:13 AM
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Oxvial
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:58:20 AM
Alienange
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 2:00:22 AM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 8:56:08 PM
It may only be 6-8 hours straight through but you may want to go back to other chapters and earn Halos or something (like you could in DMC). And the combat is so draining and gratifying, it just feels like a great length.
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Jawknee
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 2:48:52 AM
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as far as Wads, don't worry too much Ben. That guys is an a**hat. If they make "drastic changes" and they're not well recieved, Square will change their tune real quick.
Jawknee
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:54:58 AM
kokoro
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 4:12:54 AM
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Why does the whole world have to change for the west. I'm sorry if this offends anyone but I hate western culture, their (junk) food, their ideals, their precious celebrities, their hedonism and decadence, their rejection to anything with true substance- and I live in a western country!
SnipeySnake
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 8:53:10 PM
Highlander
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:39:47 PM
FPS are lazy games for lazy minds. Oh sure they max out hand eye coordination and squad tactics require some thought, but don't any one for a moment try to tell me that the experience offered by a FPS of any kind comes close to the experience offered in a JRPG.
As for Square Enix moving away from, or simply removing the style, mood and artistry that is what creates the distinctive Final Fantasy feel to their FF games. Sheer folly. You can't take a game series that is one of the definitive games of the JRPG genre and eradicate the very thing that makes it what it is. You can't take that game and strip the trademark style and westernize it without making it something it is not.
Thinking about this I am concerned that what they may be intending to do is segregate their game releases. I think you're seeing the beginning of that with Nier where the Japanese version of the game on the PS3 isn't what westerners are getting, we get a port of the 360 version. I wonder if we'll see future FF games released in Japan as normal (complete with 'proper' JRPG look and feel), and then a western version with the look and feel of Gears of War cross bred with Fallout 3 ad Elder Scrolls Oblivion. They'll claim that the games are the same, and it's just a different presentation of the game in the Western version. They can't possibly be stupid enough to abandon the millions of PS3 owners in Japan that just bought FFXIII, but that doesn't mean they can't be stupid enough to alter the formula in order to try to lure some of the fps suckers....I mean western gamers away from the MW2 teat to future Final Fantasy games.
I get that they need to evolve and progress. However, evolution and progress doesn't mean abandoning the past and the things that make you strong, it means building on those things. If you tear away the things that make you strong it's not so much evolution as revolution. Fair enough, if that's what they want to do, but it's a folly in my mind.
Ultimate_Balla
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 6:30:11 AM
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JackC8
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 7:25:08 AM
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I'm actually looking forward to this new Final Fantasy thing. I've never played one of those games before, sorry. I watch gameplay videos and it just doesn't look appealing. So for me, hey, let's see what they've got to offer.
I'm still playing Grid. Fun game, but it lacks the addictive quality of other racing games like Gran Turismo 5P and Motorstorm PR. Maybe I'm getting a bit burned out on racing (unfortunate since I just picked up Need For Speed Shift), but I ordered Tomb Raider Underworld, so maybe I'll give that a whirl.
Scarecrow
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 4:04:19 PM
therabbitkinge
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:39:26 AM
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LittleBigMidget
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:51:27 AM
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FlyingKickPunch
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 4:21:04 PM
Snaaaake
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 4:40:02 PM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:33:56 AM
foxhoundunit
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:25:29 AM
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therabbitkinge
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:12:25 AM
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Minishmaru
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:14:37 AM
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As long as Squeenix doesn't go all western rpg...things should be ok? But I don't support them too much anymore so I couldn't really care much about the direction they go anymore
Scarecrow
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 12:26:13 PM
Poor Square Enix and Final Fantasy
I'd almost say that I'm ok with seeing FF end...
To see the franchise ruined would suck...
The guys behind Demon's Souls can make that series into the new FF (without the story) :3
Seriously, I don't need a crazy story in that game (there is one by the way). The game is themed so well that it accomplishes everything by itself.
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Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 8:52:35 PM
Ultimadream
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:16:28 AM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:29:14 PM
Oxvial
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 6:42:19 PM
Alienange
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 6:49:03 PM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 8:51:28 PM
Banky A
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 2:10:21 PM
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Hey buddies! If you guys don't mind helping a brother out, can you watch my video of the Bayonetta demo?:
(JUST SKIP TO THE 1ST BOSS FIGHT at 7:23)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqE1hkx2Lkw
Thanksss youuuuu. I thought it was pretty quick. But I cheated and accidentally used the Trumpet Gun thing.
sunspider13
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 3:37:37 PM
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I agree with Ben about Bayonetta, the story is cheese but with what I saw in the demo and the few game play movies, I see a technical tight game and that's what I'm looking for in a game that has a 'story'. I'm looking forward playing it and Darksiders. But we all know that neither of those games will hold a candle to GoWIII. Placeholder games are those two.
As much as I'm looking forward to FFXIII, I even more hopeful that some sort of cosmic happenstance will grant me the chance to beat Wada like a pinata. Why in the world would he even care about what the western devs are doing. Granted keeping tabs on what others are doing is wise, but really? /end rant
Well with work as of late, gaming has taken a backseat, however I got Borderlands and R&C:ACiT for xmas and I'll be getting more loot at the end the month for my bday. BL gave me a pleasant surprise and it satisfies my Diablo 3 fix. And we all know about R&C, pure gold. God I really think that the next HD update Sony needs to do is the R&C series for all of those who missed 1 or 2 games or all of the games on the PS2.
Waiting for the demo for Dark Void to finish downloading, I'm hopeful for a good impression because the whole 'fight anywhere' hook has my curiosity peaked.
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FlyingKickPunch
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 4:18:19 PM
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joe madueira is an incredible artist.
also, the vibe i got from bayonetta demo is nonstop combat, although i haven't played the finished product, so i may be wrong. darksiders is not like that. there is a lot of puzzle solving and exploration, even if it is fairly linear. the game completely hooked me after the twilight cathedral. if you like zelda, you should like this game. just go in with an open mind.
there as some low res textures in the environment, but i urge people to give it a shot, as i would love to se what vigil could do now that they have the lore in place, and the game engine could easily be improved for another installment.
i really want to try bayonetta, but it pains me to support a shoddy xbox port with 60 bucks. darksiders on the other hand, from reports ive read, runs better on ps3. although that had nothing to do with my purchase decision, it is a bonus :)
well thats all i wanted to say about that, thank you for your time.
Oxvial
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 6:43:49 PM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 8:49:32 PM
King James
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Eternally
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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:21:19 PM
Highlander
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:51:06 PM
therabbitkinge
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:47:08 PM
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(who am I kidding I'll buy the next installment but I'll damn sure blog angrily about it!)
Highlander
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:58:10 PM
The thing is, that the turn based mechanic evolved beyond being a way to mask poor hardware. It evolved into a very distinct style of game play that is enjoyed by many, but is *still* looked down upon as if it's inferior to the real-time action games.
Sadly, I think it will take the apparent death of the turn based mechanic to make this clear to the game creators.
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:33:15 AM
And I can't tell you how much that pisses me off. Turn-based has been misunderstood for years and now, it's dead. :(
Highlander
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:18:13 PM
therabbitkinge
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:11:41 PM
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Eternally
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 6:39:20 AM
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therabbitkinge
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 9:59:54 AM
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Bayonetta









Kowhoho
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