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Ben's Week In Review: January 10

'looks around' Why does it feel like I'm looking down the October/November barrel? What is with all these games coming out in January, February and March?!

This past week's Bayonetta/Darksiders conundrum

Okay, so I've played both now and although I only just started Bayonetta, I feel I can make some accurate comments about both games. I read Arnold's review for Darksiders and a friend brought his copy over today; I played through the introductory portion and watched about an hour's worth of his saved game (he's about 11 hours in). It's quite fun and the mechanics are solid, even though it certainly isn't the prettiest title I've ever seen. I really like the whole atmosphere; it's just so dark and gritty...it's kinda like the style of Gears superimposed over the format for God of War, you know? Worth playing, IMO. But then I opened up Bayonetta and here's where I'll toss in a quick side note-

Arnold has the PS3 version of Bayonetta and I have the Xbox 360 version. Because these two versions are reportedly very different from one another, we'll want to give you a comparison review. So that's coming.

I won't give away too much before the review goes up but I just really love the over-the-top cheesiness of the game. Those who frown upon it just don't get it; the entire purpose of this game is to feature a female character that may as well be half-witch, half-stripper. It's why she sucks on little lollipops, spanks her enemies, and has numerous abilities that often leave her curvaceous form quite exposed. It's silly and absurd and maxed out in the "cheese department." But that's the point. It never once takes itself seriously but the gameplay...that's some serious sh**. Just unbelievable. Stay tuned.

FFXIII might really BE the end of an era 'sob'

I almost wanted to cry when I wrote the article in question; Square-Enix has clearly hinted at a drastically new direction for their flagship role-playing franchise. Obviously, they feel they need to innovate and progress in order to keep pace with Western developers and the general advancement of the industry. But do they really think it means nothing when half the damn PS3 population in Japan buys FFXIII? Do they really think the fans suddenly want a "new direction?" Granted, one could point towards FFXII and say that represented a definite removal from the norm but in my eyes, it was still distinctly "Final Fantasy." I think Square-Enix is inferring something else; I think they're going to try to force the series into a WRPG or action/RPG mold so as to somehow appeal to the twitch gamers who can't tear themselves away from titles that require constant button presses and no attention whatsoever.

I can't even begin to tell you how annoyed I will be if this happens. Hell, if it does, I'll go back and play every real FF from IV on through XII again. Oh yes, I will.

Personal gaming update

Halo 3: ODST annoyed me so I haven't gone back to it yet, but I believe I'm somewhere near the end. I started Resident Evil 5 and I know a lot of you have been wondering what I think of it, especially after we scored it a little lower than other sources. Well, I'm on Chapter 3-1 and while I like it - I like every RE, really - they really needed to abandon the tank controls for this one. See, it was okay in previous installments for two reasons: 1. the enemies were nowhere near as fast as they are in RE5, and 2. with the exception of RE4, they all presented us with a true third-person camera view, in that you could see your character and all of the screen. Plus, there were screens; i.e., separate sections that could only hold so many enemies. In RE5, the very speed and scope of the game is just begging me to move while shooting...sadly, it doesn't work as well in this format.

But it's still fun and I'm sure I'll finish it. The AI is good; Sheva isn't irritating me and she's an effective companion. Perhaps the best co-op tandem except for Elika and Prince in Prince of Persia. And yes, as you've already seen, I've started Bayonetta, which is just...plain...cool. I'm never playing without a smile on my face. ;)

1/9/2010 Ben Dutka

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Comments (107 posts)

Kowhoho
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 10:27:54 PM
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I do understand the point of Bayonetta, I really do. It's just that the kind of sillyness that they're going for isn't my thing.

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BikerSaint
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 10:27:54 PM
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Ben,
That long legged babe has sure got herself one great looking heiny there, doesn't she, LOL

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St_Jimmy
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:07:07 AM

But the question is, does it compare to chloe. And the anser is: HELL NO!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:37:32 AM

Yeah, a close 2nd to Chloe. ;)

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Charger7302
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 10:32:53 PM
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I just got my copy of Darksiders from gamefly, it's a really good game, I would have bought it had I not been saving up for Mass Effect 2, later this month.

I've heard you guys at psxe weren't so keen of the first one, but from what other sources say this game is shaping up really good(much like the 1st).
Will you guys be reviewing Mass Effect 2?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 10:50:49 PM

I'd imagine not unless it makes its way to PS3.

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Qubex
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 11:48:00 PM

Sadly it is an Xbot three sixty exclusive. After watching all the videos I could on it; I am very disappointed we cannot enjoy this title... For the first time I though it worth buying an Xbot Arcade, maybe second hand at $120 dollars, just to give this game ago...

...the pain... I cannot bring myself to doing it...

Q!

"i am home"

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Alienange
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:37:34 AM

I bought an xbox so I could play Mass Effect and Gears. I am seriously disappointed. Neither are as fun as so many claim.

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Qubex
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:47:42 AM

Thanks Alienange, I don't feel too bad about it now!

Q!

"i am home"

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Alienange
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:59:35 AM

Have you played the first Mass Effect Qubex? Driving that buggy around trying to shoot robots that can hit you from miles away? What kind of an RPG is this supposed to be?

I don't know where you live Qubex, but in Canada our Futureshop occasionally sells the Arcade for 149 new. I wouldn't buy a box used if I were you.

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GuernicaReborn
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 2:03:31 AM

I wanted to buy one so I could play splinter cell, but I'm just gonna borrow my brothers instead. It was so much easier living with my parents, lol.

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___________
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 7:12:56 AM

yous know both ME2 and splinter cell are both on PC right?
just get it on that.
o, n gears sucked but gears 2 was a fantastic game.
best shooter since BLACK.

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SympoziumPawa
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 7:17:06 AM

You know you're not forced to play the Xbox version its on pc too so.... the console version meh

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GuernicaReborn
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:05:40 AM

Thx for the suggestions, but I prefer consoles. My PC is barely able to run Roller Coaster Tycoon, lol. Also, my PC has nothing on my home theater setup, I'll just get a lot more enjoyment out of playing the console version.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 10:48:14 PM
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Couldn't even finish the Bayonetta demo, gameplay was so so bad.

And someone needs to fire Wada.

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Oxvial
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 11:11:15 PM

actually its a good game kinda short(7 hours) but good replayability big problem would be the loading...god how can Sega dare to release the game like that?

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Kowhoho
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 11:12:06 PM

I hated the excessive 'grading' screen that comes up after even the smallest of battles.

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SnipeySnake
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 11:35:56 PM

I played the demo at least more then 30 times. Don't know why so many people here hate the game...

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Qubex
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:48:56 AM

World, i didn't find Bayon too bad actually; but that is just me and playing the demo. I don't think I will purchase it though!

Q!

"i am home"

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tlpn99
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:57:56 AM

I didn't finish it either World. I won't be buying this one at full price, maybe a bargain bin purchase.

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jerocarson
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 11:17:46 PM
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Ben is finally playing RE5...

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www
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 7:25:25 AM

Yea and he likes it at least.

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NeoHumpty
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 11:28:10 PM
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Sadly, I only have a ps3. Glad to see you guys will take the time to compare both versions of Bayonetta. Thanks.

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Snaaaake
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 11:29:43 PM
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Aside from some frame rate issue and an annoying load times, the game is perfect and fun.

I'm recommending Bayonetta to everyone.
And Ben, do you think there will be patch to fix the issues? Frame rate isn't a big deal but the load times are killing me.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 12:25:41 AM

Are you talking about the PS3 or 360 version?

In the 360 version, I detect very little in the way of frame rate or loading problems. I imagine it's a bigger issue in the PS3 version.

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OtisFeelgood
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:33:54 AM

The PS3 version suffers from constant loading and a little frame rate issues from what I heard.

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apofisboricua
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:20:37 PM

Well Ben :

I really dont know what kind of 360 you have because my version of Bayonetta on my XBOX 360 has a few graphical problems, just like every game. First I must say that I havent seeing, playing or try the PS3 version besides the demo. I was one of the first here who posted about how superior the 360 version looked compared to that PS3 demo. I also said that the 360 version suffered from minor slowdowns and from graphical tearing in some stages. So if the 360 version which is better has these minor problems I could really cant imagine how bad the PS3 port really is.

Also I said that the game takes no longer than 7 hours to finish it, yes you can go back to replay it etc, but its $60 you are paying for it and everybody complained when Heavenly Sword could be beaten in 6 hours.

Also I like the game references to past Sega clasics, the story is a little weird and overall the game is real fun. I really dislikes how the press is treating this game as the best actioner available and said it was even better that Kamiya's classic Devil May Cry (the first one), in my opinion it isnt. But who cares for my opinion at the end im not a game journalist, Im just a 32 year old gamer who didnt sucumbs to the cheeseness of Bayonetta. Dont missunderstand me its not a bad game and the 360 version is better but it also is not the game the media wants us to believe it is.

Sorry about my grammar dudes.
PEACE AND GAMING!!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:36:35 AM

I'm not "succumbing" to anything. I'm understanding the intention of the developer.

And I've noticed the same issues in the 360 version, too, but they're hardly what I would call severe. For the most part, you really have to be looking for the problems in the 360 version (most of the time) while in the PS3 version, I think you can't avoid them.

And while I love DMC, gaming has come a long way since then. Bayonetta's combat really does beat the tar out of the original DMC, but it more on par with DMC3 or DMC4.

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Qubex
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 11:49:18 PM
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Ben, you are spot on with Bayonetta... from what I see its a slick looking game. Yes the port is bitty, but I still think it looks very good and seems to play well too... that is if you get used to the pace and master the combos...

Q!

"i am home"

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LowKey
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 12:01:37 AM
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Do you think the new direction they are taking with FF could be online only FF's? I know it may sound kind of dumb but I'm wracking my brain trying to figure this one out.

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Sir Shak
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 12:05:30 AM
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Bayonetta is not my thing , really hate the main character .

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St_Jimmy
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:17:22 AM

aha! me too!

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karneli lll
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 7:50:36 PM

Dont let the pervs hear you!

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Temjin001
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 12:40:09 AM
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Since the Bayonetta angst is being piled up I'll go ahead and speak up. I know it's lame to judge a demo and the previews etc., but man, I just don't see the hype and acclaim for this game. Ever since the game's debut video (was it TGS last year?) with all her crotch shots and perverse dialogue -wanna touch me?- The game clearly looked like another attempt at taking a stab at the perverse DOA: XVB market. This time with guns, and being more of a gamer's game. I wrote it off in my mind as a would-be, low-rated pile of crap designed to cash-in with the soft-porn pervs. Then it comes out with all these high reviews and I'm left feeling that something is still amiss with this game. Now judging from the extremely average demo, and the still un-attractive, wonky, small head, and huge body proportions.. the game, emotionally, just isn't grabbing me. Maybe I should just accept that, and push it into the pile of high rated games that just don't appeal to me no matter how high the review. Just like all those soccer games, and paper mario's etc.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:01:45 AM

It's a style thing, definitely. If it's not your bag, you won't like it because it's always in your face.

But beneath that style is one of the most accomplished action titles in history.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:26:25 AM

In History? Really?

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Alienange
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:41:53 AM

The reading! Ooh the reeeading that I had to do in Paper Mario ... how could you bring that up?

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karneli lll
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 7:54:49 PM

"But beneath that style is one of the most accomplished action titles in history."

Is the 360 version that different from the ps3 version?

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SnipeySnake
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 8:16:41 PM

@karneli lll

He wasn't comparing the versions.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 8:48:32 PM

Yes, in history. I'm not saying it's the BEST, but in terms of mechanics and the unbelievable raw potential to go absolutely nuts on the part of the player, few things compete with Bayonetta.

And yes, the 360 version is that much better than the PS3 version (I believe; I have to talk to Arnold).

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___________
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 12:58:42 AM
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i really can not see how anyone could possiably think let alone say that the combat in bayonetta is better than darksiders.
saying that is saying the combat in bayonetta is better than GOW because darksiders is almost the same.
not as brutal, not as many combos, not as many enemies on screen but the speed and feel of it is exactly the same.
darksiders kicks the living crap out of bayonetta in almost every aspect.
the only complaints i have with darksiders is

1 it takes so freaking long to get all the weapons, upgrading everything IS SO GOD DAM EXPENSIVE! 1 health flask 1500 souls jesus tap dancing christ!

2 the boss battles LAST SO FREAKING LONG!
GOW boss battles last longer than most games, gets anoying at times but darksiders is 10 times longer.
i just beat the second boss where you have to use the train ramps to beat her up.
and honestly it took so long i thought i was doing something wrong and started using my star or the horn to hurt her.
since it took so long i thought i was doing something wrong where i was not you just need to hit her once shes down.
if there was a health gauge like most games i would of not had that problem.
but why do the boss battles have to last so long?
most games a boss is down you repeat the process 3 times and your finished.
darksiders you repeat the process 15 times.

3 use a switch or something and sometimes there wont be a video showing what you just did.
at times you walk into a massive room with 4 or so doors and nothing tells you which one you have to use.
or there was this massive room with water, i walked in and no cutscene.
what do i have to do?
do i climb to the top?
do i need to escape through a hole in the wall?
everytime i enter a new room there should be a cut scene showing me what needs to be done.
most games do that, but darksiders sometimes does not.

4 combat is far to scripted and simple.
instead of having 3 finishing moves on each enemy like GOW darksiders has one per enemy.
just gets boring using the same attacks over and over again.

5 needs WAY, WAY! more combos.
its very basic, just square 3 times or square twice and triangle once combos are very restricted.
no DMC or NG or mortal kombat 40 hit combos here.

6 no where near enough enemies on screen.
your in a massive area with only 5 enemies trying to kill you?
come on this is the PS3 not the PS2.

7 the whole game has a cheap rushed feeling to it, theres no seance of polish like uncharted 2 has.
it feels like a rushed GOW, a brilliant game no doubt, best ive played in a long time but it lacks the polish and scale GOW has.

hopefully vergil does a sequel to this, makes the changes i mentioned and puts it on a much grander scale.
as many reviews have said everything there is well done it just needs more, on a grander scale.
it needs the production values of a high AAA like GOW or uncharted.
it just feels like it was held back by something, be it console reasons, budget reasons, or time reasons.
remove those restrictions and i believe darksiders could be one of the best games ever release.
it has that power begging to come out hopefully a high up studio will realize that and bring it to its full petentional
if i was sony or M$ id be rushing out and throwing millions at this IP because done right with high production values like GOW this could be a contender for GOW.
its there, it has the feel just lacks the scale.
this is the game i would like to see santa monica work on next, just like GOW just needs the talent of a high production studio.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:03:10 AM

Dude...just...

If you honestly believe the combat in Darksiders is somehow even in the same universe, let alone actually BETTER, than Bayonetta, I have nothing else to say. It's just ridiculous.

There's a REASON you won't find a single solitary professional critic agree with you.

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Oxvial
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:34:04 AM

I play those 2 games xD...Bayo combats are better (well more fun) but Darksiders its a very good game I put it at the same level of Bayo Ps3 Version but not the 360 one.

Bayo 360 > Darksiders Ps3 = Bayo PS3 .

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Alienange
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:48:33 AM

I pissed myself silly laughing at your third point there blank boy. A video showing you what to do next, HAAhahahahahaaa!

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___________
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 7:16:23 AM

so your saying the combat in bayonetta is better than the combat in GOW?
because the combat in darksiders and GOW is almost the same give or take a few restrictions.
i think ive got a new contender for most over rated game of the century.
yup move over GTAIV bayonetta now has taken your spot.

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St_Jimmy
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:15:08 AM

i actually agree with you _______, i alos think that baton is really overrated and that dark siders is a better game overall. but then again i have the ps3 version, but that is no excuse it's the devs fault for making a shitty port.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 8:57:27 PM

You ever notice how the games YOU think are overrated just so happen to be some of the best of the generation...?

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___________
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 5:46:50 AM

maybe thats why i say there overrated?
just because i complain about something does not mean i dont like it, or think its a bad game.
i love AC2 and infamous but still complain about a million and one things about it.
it just means it could of been done better.
you really think GTA IV deserves a 10?
how about bayonettas meta score of 9.2?
the only games i think deserved the score they got are MGS4 still one of the best and uncharted 2.
everything else is overrated and some games underrated like DMC4 or burnout paradise, neither get the praise they deserve.
or halo 3 ODST.
9s across the board you got to be kidding me!

come on you can not say GTA IV was not disappointing after playing GTA 3, GTA VC and GTA SA.
all of those took what the series had and either added to it or made it better.
GTA IV did neither of that, it removed most of the game play and added nothing, improved nothing besides the graphics.

as for bayonetta, i would go as far as to say DMC 4 had better combat than bayonetta i loved the devil bringer arm and how you could string together attacks it felt so smooth and polished.

only thing driving me absolutely INSANE! to the point i dont want to play it anymore in darksiders is everythings a puzzle.
normally puzzles are one every few levels and your always told what you have to do like in uncharted 2 or GOW.
darksiders, a different story, it chucks you into a massive room with 4 different doors.
where am i suppose to go?
up, down, left, right?
i HATE! screwing around wasting time checking every pathway to figure out which way is the right way.
the game should hint at the way, its my job to understand the hint, the game is suppose to give me info not leave me in the dark.
another prime example of that is the massive spider you fight.
you have to throw the bodies in her mouth than while shes munching on them switch to your glove and pound the ice off her back.
but is there anything telling you, or even hinting at that?
NOPE!
i died 2 times and spent almost 1.5 hours just attacking her.
thats whats really killed darksiders for me, i loved it to death, i was giving it a 10 but because of that simple annoyance i dont want to play it anymore.
shame such a small simple thing completley destroyed what was a brilliant game.
just like borderlands they take a brilliant game than destroy it by riddling it with bugs and repetitive respawning enemies.
how am i suppose to complete a mission if theres a million enemies nipping my a$$ and every time i kill all of them more respawn.
O and you still have not answered my original question.

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hellish_devil
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:37:13 AM
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waiting for the Bayonetta review.....

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Alienange
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:55:38 AM
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I'm going to pass on both Bayonetta and Darksiders. From what I've seen, neither of these single player experiences are worth the full $60 they're asking.

I must say though, I agree with your sentiments on the FF series. If Wada does this then Wada mistake.

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Oxvial
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:58:20 AM

has a owner of those two games I'd say they deserve to be bought at 29,99 or less.

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Alienange
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 2:00:22 AM

Did you buy them at full price or were they gifts? I don't envy you paying 120 for the two of them...

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Oxvial
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 2:09:00 AM

Bayo 29.99 ,Darksider 39.99.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 8:56:08 PM

Look, if you play Bayonetta on Normal (the available difficulties are Very Easy, Easy, and Normal), there's no WAY the game is worthless in terms of length. It'll be a brutal task to finish, IMO.

It may only be 6-8 hours straight through but you may want to go back to other chapters and earn Halos or something (like you could in DMC). And the combat is so draining and gratifying, it just feels like a great length.

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Jawknee
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 2:48:52 AM
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Oh you'll finish RE5. Shortest damn game this gen it's seemed. 3-1 your already 40% finished. That liar for Capcom Sven said it wasn't possible to finish it in under 18 hours. I beat it in 10 my 1st play through and a friend and I beat it in 3 hours on a speed run. Glad you like it so far though. Some one has too. ;)

as far as Wads, don't worry too much Ben. That guys is an a**hat. If they make "drastic changes" and they're not well recieved, Square will change their tune real quick.

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www
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 7:26:41 AM

No Jawknee I think MW2 is shorter.

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St_Jimmy
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:09:01 AM

and odst is shorter than that.

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Jawknee
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:54:58 AM

I stand corrected. MW2 was a shorter on my first run. I'll give RE5 this much, the campaign did get more then one play through. Unlike MW2.

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kokoro
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 4:12:54 AM
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I don't understand- does square want to eradicate that distinctive final fantasy feel from their future games in order to appeal to fat, western, cheeseburger-eating FPS gamers who baulk at the idea of having to think . I personally have never seen the appeal of the FPS genre- I own MW2 but that's only because my younger brother is obsessed with the series. Ever since the massive success of FPS games I've come to despise the entire genre (immature I admit), mainly because to me they represent the slow (yet assured) decline of overall interest in other game genres. I know many people who wont even touch a final fantasy (or any other JRPGs- arguably the greatest gaming genre) because it looks "stupid" or "not real". Yeah dude whatever like any of that sh** you see in MW2 is real. I very boldly accuse FPS games of closing and narrowing peoples minds to other gaming experiences which can be riveting, absorbing and enlightening. And now square wants to make games for these people and leave all their true fans with absolutely nothing?

Why does the whole world have to change for the west. I'm sorry if this offends anyone but I hate western culture, their (junk) food, their ideals, their precious celebrities, their hedonism and decadence, their rejection to anything with true substance- and I live in a western country!

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SnipeySnake
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 8:53:10 PM

Dude, we are exactly alike. Seriously, even the younger brother mw2 part. 100% EXACT!

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Highlander
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:39:47 PM

Great post and spot on.

FPS are lazy games for lazy minds. Oh sure they max out hand eye coordination and squad tactics require some thought, but don't any one for a moment try to tell me that the experience offered by a FPS of any kind comes close to the experience offered in a JRPG.

As for Square Enix moving away from, or simply removing the style, mood and artistry that is what creates the distinctive Final Fantasy feel to their FF games. Sheer folly. You can't take a game series that is one of the definitive games of the JRPG genre and eradicate the very thing that makes it what it is. You can't take that game and strip the trademark style and westernize it without making it something it is not.

Thinking about this I am concerned that what they may be intending to do is segregate their game releases. I think you're seeing the beginning of that with Nier where the Japanese version of the game on the PS3 isn't what westerners are getting, we get a port of the 360 version. I wonder if we'll see future FF games released in Japan as normal (complete with 'proper' JRPG look and feel), and then a western version with the look and feel of Gears of War cross bred with Fallout 3 ad Elder Scrolls Oblivion. They'll claim that the games are the same, and it's just a different presentation of the game in the Western version. They can't possibly be stupid enough to abandon the millions of PS3 owners in Japan that just bought FFXIII, but that doesn't mean they can't be stupid enough to alter the formula in order to try to lure some of the fps suckers....I mean western gamers away from the MW2 teat to future Final Fantasy games.

I get that they need to evolve and progress. However, evolution and progress doesn't mean abandoning the past and the things that make you strong, it means building on those things. If you tear away the things that make you strong it's not so much evolution as revolution. Fair enough, if that's what they want to do, but it's a folly in my mind.

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Ultimate_Balla
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 6:30:11 AM
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What a way to take out your frustation, Ben. Might pick up Bayonneta and darksiders. I need me some more hack n slash games in my library. Getting re4 fo sho.

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Scarecrow
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 6:30:12 AM
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Heavy Rain, soon!

That's all I care 'bout in terms of new releases!

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St_Jimmy
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:08:12 AM

WOOOO!

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JackC8
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 7:25:08 AM
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Looking forward to your comparison of the Bayonetta versions. I thought the demo was cute, but that's about it. If you guys say it's pretty good in comparison to the other version, maybe I'll pick it up when I find it for cheap some day. If it's crap in comparison to the other version, forget it.

I'm actually looking forward to this new Final Fantasy thing. I've never played one of those games before, sorry. I watch gameplay videos and it just doesn't look appealing. So for me, hey, let's see what they've got to offer.

I'm still playing Grid. Fun game, but it lacks the addictive quality of other racing games like Gran Turismo 5P and Motorstorm PR. Maybe I'm getting a bit burned out on racing (unfortunate since I just picked up Need For Speed Shift), but I ordered Tomb Raider Underworld, so maybe I'll give that a whirl.

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www
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 7:32:07 AM
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Wada hell is wrong with him?!

Ben the zombies with the flamethrower in RE5 ;)

Buy your nada, yes nothing, Sega!! You did a bad port, I might pick it up for the 360 later though.

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Snaaaake
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:26:59 AM
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I'm ready to drop my support for FF if there were to be any FF-changing decision.

Oh yes I will.

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Scarecrow
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 4:04:19 PM

I can already think of a few in FFXIII :D

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therabbitkinge
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:39:26 AM
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Bayonetta is good! I've always loved the over the top style in games like Viewtiful Joe-Okami-and Devil May Cry. This is a game for fans of those games and it gives a nod to each of them, everyone should stop hounding over good or bad reviews and remember that maybe just maybe games are also about preference and maybe its not a bad game its just not your cup of tea. Oh and man do I wanna play Darksiders! I can see its not the most polished games but its got style and I like style, games like these are really for me and I can't get enough. Ben your absolutely right about RE5 the tank controls have to go! Everytime I played any RE game I am dead before I've begun thanks to those controls and yeah I know its playable but it kills me that I can't get a handle on it. About the new direction of FF... I've got no comment other then it better not turn into an action game. Oh and personal gaming update- I just killed every NPC in the nexus (Demon's Souls) because somehow Ostrava died due to some game glitch and it really ticked me off, other then that I recently got the new Rachet&Clank title which is fun and I beat Assassins Creed 2 which was really just... just aces lol. Hope all of you are having just as much fun with your games as I am ^_^

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LittleBigMidget
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:51:27 AM
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RE5 sucked compared to the previous installments. RE4 FTW

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Snaaaake
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:17:54 AM
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Ben, according to my partner's distributor, Sony is giving out the demo code for GOWIII to everyone in Feb.

Do you know anything bout this?

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FlyingKickPunch
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 4:21:04 PM

the demo is right on the district 9 blu-ray too. that was a cool movie, btw :)

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Snaaaake
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 4:40:02 PM

Sad thing is that I already watched District 9 [T_T]

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:33:56 AM

I'm sure they'll make the demo available to all on the PSN, but I don't have a date. Does your source have a date in Feb.?

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foxhoundunit
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:25:29 AM
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I felt tthat "Tank" controls in RE5 were not a problem if you knew what you were doing.

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Vivi_Gamer
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:18:36 AM

SNNAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

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Snaaaake
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 3:26:38 PM

Somebody called?

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King James
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 5:47:06 PM

Where's Shadow?

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Snaaaake
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:36:34 AM
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Umm.....foxhoundunit, how many times did you clicked 'Submit Comment'?

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therabbitkinge
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:12:25 AM
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...WTF someone call 911 for "FoxHoundUnit" I think he/she is having a siezure!

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Minishmaru
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:14:37 AM
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Hey Ben, have you played Demon's Souls yet? That's a very satisfying game especially if you die a helluva lot of times before you finally accomplish the task you set out to do(kill the primeval demon for example) If you haven't I think you should :)

As long as Squeenix doesn't go all western rpg...things should be ok? But I don't support them too much anymore so I couldn't really care much about the direction they go anymore

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Scarecrow
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 12:26:13 PM

Agree on both points

Poor Square Enix and Final Fantasy
I'd almost say that I'm ok with seeing FF end...

To see the franchise ruined would suck...

The guys behind Demon's Souls can make that series into the new FF (without the story) :3

Seriously, I don't need a crazy story in that game (there is one by the way). The game is themed so well that it accomplishes everything by itself.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 8:52:35 PM

Why do people always ask me that?

C'mon, check the Reviews section before asking those kinds of questions. ;)

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Vivi_Gamer
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:16:28 AM
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I've been on Lost Odyssey this week, im amazed, THERE IS A WORLD MAP! and it doesnt look childish, i think they should have brought it back for FFXII.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:29:14 PM

and FFXIII too, would have been much appreciated.

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Oxvial
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 6:42:19 PM

Squaeenix would say something like they can do it but that would be another dvd for the 360 version and like the jap voices that would be unfair for them.

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Alienange
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 6:49:03 PM

FFXII does have a world map. What do you mean? Being able to travel between locations like you can in LO?

LO is really good in terms of battles and the story is good, but the party members you get are terrible. Grandchildren??? What!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 8:51:28 PM

I repeat: I LOVE Lost Odyssey.

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Beamboom
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 1:36:28 PM
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Resident Evil 5 should also been given a try in coop mode!

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Banky A
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 2:10:21 PM
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Yeah Bayonetta's combos were pretty damn fun at first. This is because I love Devil May Cry.

Hey buddies! If you guys don't mind helping a brother out, can you watch my video of the Bayonetta demo?:

(JUST SKIP TO THE 1ST BOSS FIGHT at 7:23)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqE1hkx2Lkw

Thanksss youuuuu. I thought it was pretty quick. But I cheated and accidentally used the Trumpet Gun thing.

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sunspider13
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 3:37:37 PM
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Wow Q1 is just a traffic jam, good for us, not so much for our wallets.

I agree with Ben about Bayonetta, the story is cheese but with what I saw in the demo and the few game play movies, I see a technical tight game and that's what I'm looking for in a game that has a 'story'. I'm looking forward playing it and Darksiders. But we all know that neither of those games will hold a candle to GoWIII. Placeholder games are those two.

As much as I'm looking forward to FFXIII, I even more hopeful that some sort of cosmic happenstance will grant me the chance to beat Wada like a pinata. Why in the world would he even care about what the western devs are doing. Granted keeping tabs on what others are doing is wise, but really? /end rant

Well with work as of late, gaming has taken a backseat, however I got Borderlands and R&C:ACiT for xmas and I'll be getting more loot at the end the month for my bday. BL gave me a pleasant surprise and it satisfies my Diablo 3 fix. And we all know about R&C, pure gold. God I really think that the next HD update Sony needs to do is the R&C series for all of those who missed 1 or 2 games or all of the games on the PS2.

Waiting for the demo for Dark Void to finish downloading, I'm hopeful for a good impression because the whole 'fight anywhere' hook has my curiosity peaked.

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FlyingKickPunch
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 4:18:19 PM
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i really like darksiders. i think war is one of the coolest character designs ever. this could be a great franchise, not a bad game at all for an unknown studio (vigil)
joe madueira is an incredible artist.
also, the vibe i got from bayonetta demo is nonstop combat, although i haven't played the finished product, so i may be wrong. darksiders is not like that. there is a lot of puzzle solving and exploration, even if it is fairly linear. the game completely hooked me after the twilight cathedral. if you like zelda, you should like this game. just go in with an open mind.
there as some low res textures in the environment, but i urge people to give it a shot, as i would love to se what vigil could do now that they have the lore in place, and the game engine could easily be improved for another installment.
i really want to try bayonetta, but it pains me to support a shoddy xbox port with 60 bucks. darksiders on the other hand, from reports ive read, runs better on ps3. although that had nothing to do with my purchase decision, it is a bonus :)
well thats all i wanted to say about that, thank you for your time.

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Oxvial
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 6:43:49 PM

Darksider gonna be patched for the 360 because people complanied that doesn't run like the ps3 version...sega needs to learn from that.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 8:49:32 PM

For the record, there is a GREAT deal of story in Bayonetta.

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King James
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 5:46:32 PM
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Ben, have a little faith in the game market. If S-E changes FF into something that isn't FF...the ppl will not buy it. S-E will loose $$$ and then go back to what makes FF great and make other titles like Nier if they wanna branch out.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 8:49:03 PM

People won't buy it? Don't kid yourself. At this point, if it says "Final Fantasy" on the box, it'll sell just fine.

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Eternally
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 5:59:30 PM
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LAMO Ben crying about FF. I can tell you one thing Ben the next big project square enix will replace FF with will be something special, no I don't know what it is. But Versus XIII is the only last hope to save the FF franchise, if it stays exclusive to PS3 then it just might save the franchise. In the beginning it was ment that XIII was to save the franchise but when it went multi that changed, now xii is only a fu!kin media-core title.

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King James
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 7:30:53 PM

FF needs saving?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:21:19 PM

As good as Versus will be, it won't save anything because it won't be at all like your classic FF experience, even less so than FFXIII seems to be.

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Highlander
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:51:06 PM

I'm not sure that this is about Final Fantasy so much as it is about the classic JRPG. What I think Ben is fearing for is both the Japanese flair that he has mentioned before and the 'trademark' turn based game play of the JRPG. FF games have been one of the genre defining game series of the JRPG. If SE decides to westernize and "actionize" their game, does this mark the possible end of a genre? Perhaps. That is something that is worth mourning.

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therabbitkinge
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:47:08 PM
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Im growing discouraged by the FF series... I know that they've stuck to a decent formula for years and the little deviations here and there haven't strayed to far from the roots but I think (and im sure you guys may agree) FF is one game away from morphing into an action title T^T :sniffle: its bad enough that kids think mashing the square buttons to potentially beat an entire game is "hardcore" but im done with it quite frankly. What's worse is I think the best FF games in recent years have been the remakes on the DS. If FF becomes anything other then an RPG im done with it.

(who am I kidding I'll buy the next installment but I'll damn sure blog angrily about it!)

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Highlander
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 9:58:10 PM

Funnily enough I think that the reason the DS games retain that essence that make them better in your opinion is their lack of computing power. Part of the reason for the turn based game mechanic is it allows pre-animated sequences to be used, and maximizes the look of the game on a slower hardware platform. When you have a hardware platform capable of rendering full 3D action sequences dynamically, the turn based mechanic is no longer needed to mask the deficiency of the hardware.

The thing is, that the turn based mechanic evolved beyond being a way to mask poor hardware. It evolved into a very distinct style of game play that is enjoyed by many, but is *still* looked down upon as if it's inferior to the real-time action games.

Sadly, I think it will take the apparent death of the turn based mechanic to make this clear to the game creators.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:33:15 AM

"The thing is, that the turn based mechanic evolved beyond being a way to mask poor hardware. It evolved into a very distinct style of game play that is enjoyed by many, but is *still* looked down upon as if it's inferior to the real-time action games."

And I can't tell you how much that pisses me off. Turn-based has been misunderstood for years and now, it's dead. :(

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Highlander
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:18:13 PM

Indeed Ben.

:(

I do not understand why turn based game play is looked down upon, nor do I understand why it has fallen so deeply out of fashion.

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therabbitkinge
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:11:41 PM
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I understand entirely the change being made more from a technical standpoint and not a personal preference of devs. My biggest concern as you stated before is the death of the RPG/JRPG genre, when I stopped an thought about things I began to think that RPG's just let you live in a slowed down version of a fast frenetic fight like in my favorite anime or action game but as time went on I grew found of the dynamic and I would hate to see it die. On the other hand we all may be over thinking this, until we know more about what type of change may take place maybe we should relax on all speculation ^_^ thanks for a breath of clarity :thehighlander:

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Eternally
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 6:39:20 AM
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Well its that freaking Wada he thinking too big. Sqaure Enix isent ment to go after the mass market. They should focus more about Japan first, before they do something else, Like the should help going more sony exclusive in Japan so so can overtake it, if that DS or Wii dident have so many freaking exclusives it wouldn't dominate the sales at all. If only just Sqaure Enix helped them for all Sony has done for them, but instead they f u c k them in the a s s.

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therabbitkinge
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 9:59:54 AM
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I dunno about the sodomy but Wada is defenitley looking at the wrong forums and fans to make a decision for change like an all western developed FF... to be honest though im sure like every other dev he's just trying to move with the flow of the gaming tide, everyones gotta make money and everyones got to protect the integrity of there franchise but sometimes its compromise that wins over conviction and dedication to a series.

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