Ben's Week In Review: January 31
I think it's like 10 outside. There's no wind but if there was, it'd feel like -1000. But I'm warm...warm and kinda happy. :)
An urge for old-school RPGs has returned
You know, you wouldn't think that a small piece of news like Namco Bandai failing to bring Tales of Vesperia to the US would resonate for the week. But for me, it has. I think it's all this talk about Final Fantasy XIII straying so far from the standard old-fashioned RPG norm and while I'll still play it, I find myself craving some turn-based JRPG goodness. This is why I really wanted to see Vesperia arrive at some point; I didn't really have the time for Eternal Sonata when it finally came out for the PS3, but it was still a solid game. And now that I'm 100% convinced that turn-based is officially dead, I keep looking for any information on a Lost Odyssey sequel, which I think is the last new RPG (for consoles, not handhelds) that was truly turn-based. So how come we can't get the PS3 version of Vesperia?
I'm only talking about all RPG fans in this scenario; I can easily get the 360 version if I want to. It's just that every time I see even the slightest example of the continued elimination of the turn-based system, I get depressed. It's really painful for someone who loves that style and still remembers the glory days of the PS1 with great fondness.
Do we care about Episodes from Liberty City?
I love GTA and all, and I suppose I should care about Grand Theft Auto: Episodes from Liberty City coming to the PS3...but I don't. If I really cared, I would've picked this up for the 360 when it came out last October but the truth is, I never even knew it released. There's no doubt that I'll play GTAV when it comes out but when it comes to these spin-offs, I have great difficulty summoning the requisite enthusiasm. I dunno...I just think GTAs should be a full experiences from start to finish; I want time to enjoy a robust story and become immersed in a huge new world. Maybe that's just me, but I get the feeling others may feel the same way, provided they actually play the GTA titles. I know some - kids, mostly - just drive around in circles and kill people, but I've always become quite involved with every GTA. I can't really do that with spin-offs and pseudo-sequels so I guess I just don't care enough for Episodes from Liberty City.
But I'm sure it's good news for fans of the franchise who only own a PS3. Personally, I can't wait for Rockstar's Red Dead Redemption, which comes out at the end of April. I won't be missing that release.
Personal gaming update
So I guess the cat is out of the bag and most of you know what I'm playing right now. It also doesn't really help that some of you are on my PSN friends list and can easily see what I'm playing; I've gotten a half-dozen messages already, all riddled with excitement and a bit of jealousy. ;) However, I can only tell you what I've told them: I am not allowed to say anything until the embargo date, which is February 10. I promise that we'll be one of the first to post the review and that's the best I can do. All I'll say is that I'll really try to impress people with the analysis; I think it's required for this game.
I've finished Halo 3: ODST, which means I've played and completed every entry in the series. It was...well, it was Halo. I like them all. But as I've said before, I've grown a little tired with the same ol' same ol' and I'm really hoping Halo Reach actually represents some forward thinking on the part of Bungie. I'm also about 2/3 of the way through Bayonetta although I'm not sure when I'll be able to finish. I have more pressing matters at hand right now. ;) The other game I really want for February is Bioshock 2, although I do want to try Dante's Inferno at some point. That's it for now. Gotta get back...
1/30/2010 Ben Dutka
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MysteriousMagus
Saturday, January 30, 2010 @ 10:42:12 PM
@__@ Anyways i never played any Tales games...
Anyone here finished or played mass effect 2?
Ben..you said that you didn't like Mass effect 1.... but 2 it's actually good... i couldn't even play 1 without getting bored but 2 it's really good.
I hope secret exclusive is twisted metal!
LegendaryWolfeh
Saturday, January 30, 2010 @ 10:32:19 PM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 12:19:29 AM
tes37
Saturday, January 30, 2010 @ 10:25:15 PM
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LegendaryWolfeh
Saturday, January 30, 2010 @ 10:31:29 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 30, 2010 @ 10:31:38 PM
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But hey at least we have Last Rebellion coming in turn based form, and at $40 it looks like a steal. Even though I'm now technically looking forward to WKC more than FFXIII I have to play the latter first, I'll pick up WKC a bit cheaper. Stick around for Resonance Ben, and that other one, forget its name.
Dante's Inferno is on the preorder pony as well. That will be my action fix for quite some time, sorry Kratos, I love ya but there's some gray in that beard by now.
I gives strictly no f*cks for oldass GTA DLC, Rockstar can shove it up their butts. TheWorld doesn't do sloppy seconds.
Oh yeah, and I'm on a PS2 RPG kick, but my team in Grandia III isn't strong enough to beat the last guy. ARRRGH! After that it's on to Shadow Hearts Covenant. That's what's up with me in case you were interested.
Considering doing another story based in a game world a-la my treatment Fallout 3: The Dunwich Horror. Can't focus on what I'm really sposeda be doing.
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 12:20:14 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 12:30:24 AM
Update: Using superior strategy skills and timing I just beat Grandia III with a relatively weak force, great ending. Now can we get a part IV?
Thing is, and I think this is the appropriate venue, the turn based mechanic allows you to do these things like overcome insurmountable enemies with a sense of having accomplished an intellectual feat. Going up to a big critter and wacking away at it in an action rpg, just isn't the same as taking on a glactic evil force with not just your sword but your superior mental faculties. The death of turn-based ends the strategy that makes RPGs so rewarding in the first place.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 12:55:01 AM
In turn-based RPGs, I just loved thinking two, three, even four and more turns ahead when fighting tough enemies and bosses. All you really do in hack 'n slash is react. I will never buy the idea that all these real-time mechanics are as deep as turn-based COULD be. Because I still play most RPGs and I haven't seen that yet.
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Scarecrow
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 1:06:42 AM
Hitch
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 3:04:24 AM
b3mike
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 12:43:25 PM
Jian2069
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 4:34:39 PM
Deadman
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 5:17:03 PM
Oxvial
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 6:34:06 PM
Deadman
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 6:55:52 PM
Again that demo rocked I got that puppy on pre order too. All else falls to the side when DI finally comes to me doorstep. I havent been this excited for a game since inFamous.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 30, 2010 @ 11:15:38 PM
Alienange
Saturday, January 30, 2010 @ 11:25:17 PM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 12:21:16 AM
Alienange
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 6:50:23 AM
As WorldEnds points out above, turn-based can give a gamer a real sense of accomplishment when up against insurmountable odds.
Maybe I've got to take TheHighlander's suggestion to write to game companies more seriously. I want turn-based back!
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 8:31:09 PM
BikerSaint
Saturday, January 30, 2010 @ 10:44:18 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 30, 2010 @ 11:16:16 PM
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just2skillf00l
Saturday, January 30, 2010 @ 11:22:33 PM
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OtisFeelgood
Saturday, January 30, 2010 @ 11:27:00 PM
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GuernicaReborn
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 12:07:03 AM
OtisFeelgood
Monday, February 01, 2010 @ 12:39:21 AM
Charger7302
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 12:27:11 AM
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On the Heavy Rain note, I am really liking what I've seen in the recent videos. It looks like the story is going to be really good, which should make up for any lack of gameplay.
tes37
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 12:31:50 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 12:33:06 AM
tes37
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 12:37:38 AM
fluffer nutter
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 2:20:56 AM
Scarecrow
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 12:32:01 AM
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Now it's thrown into the Japanese "niche" category....meaning we'll rarely get the good rpgs in the U.S. anymore...or in limited quantities
So sad. ps3 provides so much technology for rpgs to use.....and only Demon's Souls has used it perfectly (yeah it's not a true jrpg, but yeah)
Heavy Rain's so close now...
Freaking cold here to...wtf?
Jawknee
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 1:28:27 AM
johnld
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 5:56:24 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 12:13:07 PM
___________
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 12:34:16 AM
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i read a article the other day saying its a mess ATM, and has had the shakiest development cycle ever.
i was really excited for that game, since i thought i finally had a proper substitute for GTA but these recent reports certainly are not striking confidence in me.
hope im wrong but ive got the feeling LA Noire is going to be the biggest disappointment of the generation.
phantomMenace
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 1:12:25 AM
___________
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 2:03:23 AM
Jawknee
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 1:26:34 AM
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As far as the extra GTA IV episodes. I don't really care. Happy for those who wanted it though. A buddy of mine really wanted these and was thinking about getting another 360 just for these episodes. Bet he's glad be waited.
Red Dead Redemption does look pretty freaking awesome. IGN has some nice preview videos up. Can't wait to see more. The graphics look much better then GTAIV. Did the same Rockstar studio make Red Dead? There's more then one studio yes?
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Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 3:17:16 PM
Bandit King
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 10:37:54 AM
Qubex
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 2:16:39 AM
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There is no reason why a story like Avatar could not be adapted to be played and experienced like Heavy Rain, and in 3D too. So imagine the Avatar movie being really interactive... with 70% of it made on computer, the next 30% would need to convincingly model and portrait computer generated characters as real life humanoids and not just aliens with motion capture movements applied.
This will be the final step, but to do that we would need next generation hardware to pull that off in real-time. The new "nVidia" GPU "Fermi" goes someway to achieve "Pixar" resolution and quality in real-time. For us, the next PS4 should do it... let us see what happens. I am very interested in this evolution anyway.
My gaming update: I am current playing Heavenly Sword and very much enjoying it. Does anyone know if Ninja Theory are developing a sequel or not?
Q!
"i am home"
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Naztycuts
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 2:45:38 AM
Qubex
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 4:57:08 AM
Wow, so no Heavenly Sword 2 then. Very upsetting indeed!
Q!
"i am home"
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SmashedPumpkin
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 4:18:23 AM
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Ultimadream
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 4:48:18 AM
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Lotusflow3r
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 9:01:50 AM
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WKC is the game for anyone looking for a new RPG that stays in touch with the root and gives you that old magical feeling that only a true RPG can.
I get it just from the videos on youtube (the whole games up there!)
Qubex
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 9:56:03 AM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 8:32:25 PM
Skatejimmy5
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 11:53:24 AM
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:)
GamerKid123
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 2:23:03 PM
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Jian2069
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 4:39:07 PM
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Speaking of which, why isn't there any info about GTAV? D: !
Isn't it supposed to be out before fall 2010?
Also the only RPG I really got into was FFIV, I haven't played any RPG since (except MMORPG's on the PC).
Wait no, I played Oblivion and Fallout 3, those are RPG games right?
Oblivion >>>>> Fallout 3
WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 5:23:57 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 8:31:46 PM
tlpn99
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 6:10:12 PM
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Looking forward to Heavy Rain myself. Lets hope it's as good as it's meant to be. After all this hype you dont want it to be a pile of rubbish.
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geovanwitdakick
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 6:38:15 PM
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Jed
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 6:50:10 PM
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Speeking of cold... with as hot as it gets here(West Texas) in the summertkme, you think that we would get a little break from the weather in winter. NO. We have had about 10 inches of snow so far, and it has been down to about 3 degrees on more than one occasion. I want my blankie.
Scarecrow
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 7:07:35 PM
BikerSaint
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 8:37:23 PM
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geovanwitdakick
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 8:58:22 PM
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Qubex
Sunday, January 31, 2010 @ 9:17:16 PM
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Watched in amazement at all the bad weather in Europe and the United States... here we just get rain, short tropical bursts, but not much else... it is a fairly quiet relaxed environment...
Q!
"i am home"
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Bandit King
Wednesday, February 03, 2010 @ 10:47:00 AM
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Ben do you think Arnold could give us an early opinion? Maybe just a quick opinion on the game from a JRPG fan's stand point? Please?

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Saturday, January 30, 2010 @ 10:13:55 PM