Ben's Week In Review: March 14
Crazy stormy night and the clocks go ahead, too... I almost prefer the clock going back these days.
Yes, please do bring back the RPG feel
It's bound to be a topic that rages long and burns brightly amongst the role-playing aficionados. While Final Fantasy XIII remains a fantastic game, I maintain that it simply doesn't feel like a Final Fantasy title or, for that matter, an RPG. Those who have read that review know my thoughts on the matter and I will always stand by them. I still love the game, but man, I really am looking forward to the time when Square-Enix brings back those missing elements. They keep saying they simply didn't have the time to produce high-definition towns, and this lack of time (and a lack of knowledge in regards to PS3 development) resulted in a loss of many recognizable features. However, they say that now they've worked past the initial difficulties, those towns we all miss will indeed return at some point in the future. Now, I wouldn't be so convinced of this claim if FFXIII didn't clearly show a significant drop in review scores when compared to the rest of the franchise. I think the critical average is around 8.3 or something like that, which is a good full point lower than we've come to expect.
Like I said in the review, if FFXIII didn't hold the "Final Fantasy" name, it'd be a whole different story. But the question is, are they willing to return to what some will now call the "older" style? They left turn-based behind; maybe they'll leave towns and world maps and other things behind, too. That's what I'm worried about...just gimme back FF, damnit. That's all.
You just gotta love Prince of Persia
With the possible exception of Warrior Within, this is one of the most critically acclaimed franchises of the past seven or eight years. So while we've already moved past a few of the biggest releases of 2010, I really think you should pay close attention to The Forgotten Sands. It may be different than the latest PoP but we're talking about a return to the Sands of Time style, and that remains my favorite entry in the series. That video is fantastic in my eyes; it may not represent a visual leap forward, but it's guaranteed to be highly polished and a ton of fun to play. I've often wondered why these games were never the blockbusters I expected them to be...I keep thinking it's because the game involves a combination of action/adventure elements that might throw the uninitiated. People want to stick to what they know. But the good news is, the new Prince won't have to battle FFXIII or GoWIII or something like that, so I'm hoping for a warm gamer reception.
Personal gaming update
Right now, it's all about FFXIII. I'll finish it before I start GoWIII, and that's saying something. I'm still not the biggest fan of that very automated combat system, but the story keeps getting better, and in general, the production is just amazingly refined. Anybody who appreciates design and development effort will appreciate at least some parts of FFXIII, and I also imagine it'll bring in some new fans, too. It's nothing like past installments and it manages to cater to that twitch-gamer crowd, too. In that way, I suppose we have to say it's a pretty damn good accomplishment...even though the long-time followers are going, "uh...what about us? Doesn't our loyalty count for anything?" But perhaps the best way to bypass that war is just to admit that FFXIII is indeed a great game, and that's that.
Obviously, Kratos is up next and after that, I don't think I'll be getting anything new until Red Dead Redemption and The Forgotten Sands in May. Then there appears to be a bit of a break...maybe up until Gran Turismo 5 at the end of the year. But who knows? Maybe that "massive sequel" will shed new light on the issue of upcoming releases...
3/13/2010 Ben Dutka
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Comments (122 posts)
Kowhoho
Saturday, March 13, 2010 @ 10:57:13 PM
totozero18
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 8:58:16 AM
shadowscorpio
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 12:02:10 PM
Highlander
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 1:11:40 PM
Yeah, a small number of the discs appear to be faulty somehow. For some players (and it seems to be on any system) the game locks horribly when entering battle. You can still use the PS button to quit the game, but the game itself will not go any further than showing the enemy onscreen, the party never appears. It seems that the planet ROAK is the worst offender, so there may be specific regions on the disc that are not properly formed during manufacture. Either way, it would be nice of SE to at least recognize that there is an issue common to a number of gamers instead of ignoring it.
Jawknee
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 8:29:35 PM
eLLeJuss
Saturday, March 13, 2010 @ 10:12:49 PM
darxed
Saturday, March 13, 2010 @ 10:23:57 PM
Scarecrow
Saturday, March 13, 2010 @ 11:44:02 PM
I've explained this already......
There are things about this game which Ben points out in his review which lower the quality of this game.
The very fact that it feels nothing like an rpg is something I can't get over.
Then there's the character designs ( have never liked any character design in this game except for Lightning)
There's no towns
You can't switch party leaders 'till they let you run around in the Grand Pulse (60% of the game already completed...)
There was a "whole game's worth of content cut"
I will NOT reward a company for being lazy, GREEDY, and for ruining what I love 'bout rpgs. Specifically FF.
I would never be able to get past the fact that I'm playing a "ruined" FF.
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Now, that's just me. If others love it, hey good for them :3
(Hopefully I won't have to explain this again............................)
johnld
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 12:05:42 AM
Scarecrow
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 12:53:03 AM
SnipeySnake
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 1:46:49 AM
LimitedVertigo
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 7:34:38 AM
OtisFeelgood
Saturday, March 13, 2010 @ 9:54:37 PM
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darxed
Saturday, March 13, 2010 @ 9:56:58 PM
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chedison
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 3:52:14 PM
I also find the shining factor of FF games is the storyline, and specifically the development of the entire cast of characters. Not just the "hero" and the "princess." One of the things I love about this game is the majority of the characters hate/mildly dislike each other. But they have to learn to work together because their lives depend on it.
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, March 13, 2010 @ 11:59:11 PM
NeoHumpty
Saturday, March 13, 2010 @ 10:12:46 PM
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But, I never liked XII nearly as much as I am liking this entry...as similar as they may be.
hellish_devil
Saturday, March 13, 2010 @ 10:22:01 PM
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Kowhoho
Saturday, March 13, 2010 @ 10:57:43 PM
johnld
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 12:07:26 AM
Kowhoho
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 12:23:08 AM
Beamboom
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 5:21:27 AM
hellish_devil
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 6:53:15 PM
chedison
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 11:10:51 PM
frylock25
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 1:30:55 AM
spiderboi
Tuesday, March 16, 2010 @ 4:14:07 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, March 13, 2010 @ 10:46:48 PM
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darxed
Saturday, March 13, 2010 @ 11:14:43 PM
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Scarecrow
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 1:03:42 AM
And I disagree with darxed. FFXII had one of the most mature stories in FF since VI.
Finally not something about a princess/important female and a blonde guy. It was more about war, propaganda, and each character's predicament pinning them against one goal.
I think Gameinformer's review of FFXII really does it justice. Ironically IGN's review of it is my fave (really great review). That was before IGN turned into crap.
LimitedVertigo
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 7:41:19 AM
Ultimadream
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 8:29:08 AM
FFXIII's gameplay isnt much different from XII later on in the game. You can switch your party members how you see fit, in XII you only controlled 1 member at a time at least with XIII you can change what your team strategy during battle.
LimitedVertigo
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 10:34:09 AM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 1:20:30 PM
The ability to run around during the battle means nothing as you still get hit no matter the distance you run.
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 1:40:52 PM
In XIII the only choice you're given is determining what style of play your party will do.
I'll take the complex decision making in XII over the quick pacing, L1/X gameplay in XIII.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 2:27:07 PM
darxed
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 5:13:53 PM
Well Ashe was a princess/important female character (I think she was the only important character from you party anyway) and two of the guys were blonde, right? and I don't think the story was that bad, it was just unfinished, it promised a lot for like half of the game and then it just stopped. My main issue with XII was the characters as I said before, Hadn't it been for Balthier I don't think I would have finished the game...
Jawknee
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 5:53:54 PM
FFXIII's battle system has potential to be a great system, but the restrictions are holding it back. Big time. Whats the point of each character having their own summons when you can only use the party leader's once in each battle? It's stupid that they at least won't allow us to change party leaders in the middle of a battle. Even XII allowed for that.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, March 13, 2010 @ 11:59:38 PM
WolfCrimson
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 12:18:54 AM
kraygen
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 3:33:24 AM
www
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 3:57:38 AM
LimitedVertigo
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 7:38:41 AM
www
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 12:12:57 PM
WolfCrimson
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 1:04:19 PM
frylock25
Saturday, March 13, 2010 @ 11:30:38 PM
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my gf is hooked on zombie apocalypse. i game shared it with a buddy and when she saw how to play it she didnt want to stop. we did the first level of 7 days of hell mode and wow that was no joke.
i think when i get through bioshock 2 i will get back on mag. its been a while since i have been on there.
i really want to play god of war 3 and heavy rain. my gf keeps bugging me to get heavy rain i may end up getting it this week.
damn i just now realized it was daylight savings time. i hate this crap. i bought one of those clocks that sets itself and i bought it before they changed the dates of daylight savings. so now my clock changes on the wrong days of the year. thanks george bush.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 12:00:05 AM
frylock25
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 12:11:21 AM
Ben did you go through either of them multiple times?
how about heavy rain? how many playthroughs for that? i cant wait to play that game.
inkme101
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 12:13:04 AM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 7:48:55 PM
Jawknee
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 8:30:52 PM
___________
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 12:27:35 AM
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i loved every single game out of that series, if theres one that i did not like as much as the others its the cell shaded PoP of 2008.
but i still liked it, just to simple and kiddy for me, i prefer my sword fighting games dark and gritty.
im trying to get into yakuza 3 this week but it is boring the FU**! out of me.
honestly this game should be called babysitters 3.
people complained about the teediness of heavy rain, but never mentioned it in yakuza 3.
at least in heavy rain it serves a purpose and is only for the first 20 minutes of the game or so.
honestly the whole game is go find this person, go find that person, go get some milk for the dog, go get a rubber ball for the dog, go find kumi or whatever hes name is because he went to the movies alone sad.
jesus fu**ing christ!
i thought yakuza were suppose to be tough guys, roaming the streets collecting protection money.
not running a fu***ng day care center!
yakyza 3 = the worst, most boring game i have ever played in my 20+ years of playing games.
the only part of the game i actually enjoyed is the part where you have to find the boss daughter, and you end up roaming through a rival familys hideout going through floors beating the crap out of everyone.
Naztycuts
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 1:30:25 AM
frylock25
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 1:33:11 AM
kraygen
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 3:36:45 AM
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Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 7:18:17 AM
FlyingKickPunch
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 11:00:12 AM
LimitedVertigo
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 11:19:38 AM
rogers71
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 11:53:49 AM
OtisFeelgood
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 12:50:49 AM
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sunspider13
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 1:21:04 PM
kraygen
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 3:40:00 AM
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Are you going to be reviewing Just Cause 2?
I'm pretty interested in that game and I'd love a full review on it.
As far as my gaming goes, WKC is keeping me busy, especially with the new quests. However I have to get my guild rank up a little higher to play some quests. So I guess I'm off to do that.
frylock25
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 4:17:09 AM
just cause 2 is a bad ass game. i really want to see what the full game is like. my gf cant understand why i keep playing the demo over and over. "didnt you already play this?" she just doesnt get it.
after i got the timer glitch to work and flew around the whole map it was like damn i cant wait to see what this game will turn into. on some level it feels it might disappoint. i hope not
kraygen
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 1:26:19 PM
I feel the same way about just cause 2. The demo seems fantastic but I'm afraid the story/quests maybe to simple and repetitive after a short time. It's a common flaw of this type of game which is sad, because the environment of this game type gives so many
chedison
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 3:55:11 PM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 7:50:02 PM
kraygen
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 11:58:30 PM
Also I thought of another question, do you think the pre-order dlc bonus' will be available at a later date?
If so, I'm willing to wait till the price goes down and I can buy the edition that has all the dlc already. I get really sick of buying games only to have to buy the rest of the game a couple of weeks later.
www
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 4:08:43 AM
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Let's just face it people! If getting all those towns in high definition was already difficult to do on PS3, SE knew in advance this was a multiplat and even with this linearity, it made it on 3 DVDs, its clear they woulda needed 6-10 DVDs if they had to give it their all, and that will be a bad look for the MS console, period.
Jawknee
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 6:17:11 PM
FullmetalX10
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 4:22:33 AM
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I will definitely go see The Forgotten Sands movie, not sure if I can buy the game though, low on cash and Heavy Rain is first in line after God of War, maybe if I finally get a job.
Beamboom
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 5:13:20 AM
Jawknee
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 7:56:38 PM
Beamboom
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 5:12:33 AM
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Jawknee
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 5:55:14 PM
Beamboom
Monday, March 15, 2010 @ 8:48:48 PM
However I do not own FF XIII and my comment were not a personal opinion but more a statement of facts. Action jrpgs are not typically highly rated by western reviewers. That is simply an observation. And based on that I ask, would this game really get a higher rating were it not labelled "Final Fantasy"?
Deleted User
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 6:26:10 AM
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any way great post Ben i love reading u week-in reviews
'b.d'
*if u don't like me u can BITE ME!*
Dante399
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 7:24:05 AM
I highly suggest this to SE: If you're going to make more of these battle systems, you are just better off making graphic movies instead.
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Ultimadream
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 8:33:46 AM
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I hear people critising the battle system an how automated it is, just becuase you can't move you character around manually like 12 doesnt make it automated. I find myself constantly on my toes frequently switching paradigms each battle.
FlyingKickPunch
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 11:07:30 AM
overall, a great game
darxed
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 5:40:59 PM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 7:51:33 PM
Jawknee
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 7:58:54 PM
As I've said before. Were have a special needs kid in the class and we must all learn as his/her pace. ;)
@Ultimadream, I couldn't care less about moving the characters around, its the fact that im at the mercy of the AI, the fact you can't change the party leader in the middle of a fight, the fact you can only summon one Eidolons every 10 fights or so, the fact that when the party leader dies its game over is what the problems are. I've never had this many game overs in any Final Fantasy. It's not that the game is harder, the battle system is unbalanced and restricting. Why does it make sense that we have to revive fallen party members but they can't revive the leader? It's frustratingly stupid that Square did it this way.
As i said in my other posts, the battle system has potential. Seems Square should have loosened up on the Auto-Battle bs. Its almost like this game is turning out to be one giant battle simulator with some pretty cut scenes and a decent story.
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Jawknee
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 9:52:02 PM
chedison
Monday, March 15, 2010 @ 1:42:59 AM
Tired of hearing all this bs about xbox being the reason for any negative aspect of this game.
Victor321
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 9:54:10 AM
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I'll also be picking up XIII and Heavy Rain today, and if I end up not liking XIII, VersXIII will still be the next FF I'll buy; if I end up not liking VersXIII but I like XIII, I'll still give FF a chance, but I'll be more cautious; if I end up not liking both, then VersXIII will be the last FF I'll buy.
I have a lot of patience and resilience to things like this, but it's gotta end sometime right?
Sides, I do have the feeling that VersXIII and XIII will be enjoyable when I play them :) (not a newcomer btw, have played several previous FFs, VII and X for ex.).
maxpontiac
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 11:47:37 AM
BeezleDrop
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 12:36:05 PM
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I really cannot decide what to buy first, FFXIII or GoW3. Any suggestions people? I need to save so not both! 1 game a week keeps my lady off of my back.
MyWorstNightmar
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 12:51:58 PM
sunspider13
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 1:38:25 PM
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As for me work is taking up a lot of my time as of late, so not too much time for gaming. However my boss had a birthday a couple of weeks ago and we had a office party with prizes. I managed to win a copy of Bayonetta. I found the combo system rather deep which suprised the hell out of me. The cheese factor is off the charts, and the jpop has me ready to kill somebody, but I do think it's a solid game. It's only downfall is that it's a port. Oh well maybe next time.
Started a new game on inFAMOUS to get that last trophy and playing Borderlands with friends when I have the time. Now I'm counting the hours until GOWIII is delivered to me. I haven't decided if I'm going to take a few personal days so I can play without time constraints. And I'll finally be getting Heavy Rain this week or next, so I can't wait for that experience.
I'm off now.
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BeezleDrop
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 3:12:58 PM
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chedison
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 3:56:05 PM
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Shams
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 6:52:37 PM
Jawknee
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 6:03:40 PM
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I am enjoying FFXIII to an extent, and i do agree its a good game but its lacking. The lack of options and freedom in the battle system is it's biggest drawback in my opinion. Its a great system and has great potential but the fact that i have virtually no control over how my party fights is really hurting it for me. I think I would gladly trade this new battle system for Gambits any day. The Game Over's when the party leader dies in painfully frustrating as well. I feel like at some points in the battle all im doing in healing for like 10 turns. If one of my AI characters has Raise, why can't they revive the leader? Whats the point of making it game over if the leader dies? I have a feeling this type of system is the direct result if "twitch gaming" influencing Square to go this route.
I want Final Fantasy back!
The story is great, the characters i love, especially Sazh and Vanille. The production value is top notch, but it's just not grabbing me like other Final Fantasy's.
That said, I'll probably spend plenty of time on this game regardless of the flawed battle system. Which i think illustrates what Ben is saying. Its a great game, and most of us will get many, many hours of play out of it. But its just not the Final Fantasy we have come to know and love.
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FlyingKickPunch
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 6:24:29 PM
BeezleDrop
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 8:43:34 PM
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@Shams,
I have been stoked to play Sigma 2 for months now, I played the Demo like 10 or so times. I am sooo impressed with the game, and I do believe Team Ninja cutting out some of the violence with blue mist instead of blood really works. The game is fast, furious, and tons of fun. Cannot wait to get it.
Mr Bitey
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 9:39:27 PM
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The way I see it, they shifted focus from individual actions,to tactically switching roles to defeat opponents. So instead of focusing on which specific move to use, you now are using the different roles to defeat the opponents.
It's different, but it works surprisingly well. It's still one of the more strategic JRPGs this gen.
In addition, the cast is one of the best in the franchise. The story (so far) is also really enjoyable.
I'm really happy with it. :)
Jawknee
Sunday, March 14, 2010 @ 9:47:53 PM
Mr Bitey
Monday, March 15, 2010 @ 9:59:57 AM

Final Fantasy XIII









Highlander
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Saturday, March 13, 2010 @ 9:40:20 PM
Regarding Final Fantasy XIII, Once I can properly separate it from the Final Fantasy name in my head I may try it via rental. However SE needs to put back all the elements it claims were too hard to do. Quite why turn based combat was removed is beyond me. I don't care if they have to write two separate modes for combat, turn based needs to return. It seems to me that the original point of turn based combat was to hide the fact that the hardware of game console couldn't generate great graphics in real time, so the various attack sequences were pre-rendered, and turn based combat evolved around the use of such 'set pieces' in combat. However it also more closely parallels the turn based nature of role playing games where you use dice, pencils and character sheets. Turn based brings a whole raft of strategic decision making that doesn't exist in a real time combat system. OK, so FFXIII takes things further by automating a lot of the system. Um, what's the point of building the system if you then turn around and automate it? Anyway, for the next FF game, perhaps the folks at SE could be persuaded to bring back turn based play as an option.
As for my personal gaming update. Star Ocean 4 is so unplayable on my systems that I am returning the disk to Square Enix for a replacement in the hope that the disc is faulty. SE will not recognize that there is an issue, despite gamers reporting the exact same problems in forums around the net. *sigh*
I'm working my way through WKC slowly. I'm enjoying it. I don't have as much time on the PS3 as usual right now, so I am falling behind. Of course I'm also playing a bit of Uncharted 2 online with the new maps as well...
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