Dear Polyphony: Just Give Us GT5 Already
View Large ImageAs most racing fans are aware, Gran Turismo 5 should launch some time this fall. Sony boss Peter Dille essentially guaranteed that it would be on store shelves before 2009 expired. We'll believe him for now.
It's officially only one delay, as the game never got any sort of release date until late last year, when they said it would launch in Japan in March 2010. But that doesn't mean the fans aren't a little miffed and I got news for ya, Polyphony: if you really did delay the game for the sake of possibly inputting 3D or PlayStation Move functionality, or you're considering another delay for the sake of adding such technology, "miffed" won't be the proper description. Pissed off will be far more accurate. Why? Because this is very simple: the hardcore racing aficionados; the target demographic for GT, really don't care. 3D is cool and all but the idea of making it compatible with Move is downright ridiculous and in the end, I can't think of a single solitary GT fan who would want to wait for the addition of these features.
They don't care. They really don't. I certainly don't. And besides, can't you add that stuff via patches at a later date? We've never really received a good explanation as to why the game had to be pushed from March to fall, but we've continually heard that "90% complete" quote for some time now. I know Yamauchi is a perfectionist and I respect that, and I have every confidence that GT will be the driving simulator we've all been waiting for, but I just have to make this clear in case Polyphony is under the delusion that their fans care about stuff like GPS features (which I can't see anyone with less than a million bucks in the bank using), 3D and Move. Now, I do like the idea of 3D. I'll be very interested to give it a try. But no matter how realistic GT might look, 3D still won't make it feel just like a real race and a real car.
And, oh yeah, I just want the damn game. We all do. If you have to delay it for the purpose of refining it and making it better, fine. But if it has anything whatsoever to do with the new technology, it's a colossal mistake.
4/9/2010 Ben Dutka
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inkme101
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 9:59:32 PM
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furbiesmustdie
Sunday, April 11, 2010 @ 2:29:27 AM
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Temjin001
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 9:55:55 PM
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LegendaryWolfeh
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 9:57:23 PM
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Hm? believe him for saying the game will be out before 2009 is over? lol a little late =p
Also I just wish the game was released, I bet right now, nearly everyone would be satisfied with it, it's probably an amazing game that the only thing not finished are minuscule details that they want to be perfected, which is annoying the racers..
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 12:16:21 AM
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rell
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 9:57:54 PM
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tes37
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 11:01:05 PM
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BikerSaint
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 11:13:20 PM
I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you,
(Unless of course, you're also planning on becoming the newest member of "The Blue Man Group)"
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Sunni_Boi
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 10:03:41 PM
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Highlander
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 10:10:08 PM
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tes37
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 11:15:17 PM
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daus26
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 1:01:48 AM
Last edited by daus26 on 4/10/2010 1:02:59 AM
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tes37
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 7:39:31 AM
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daus26
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 1:31:28 PM
Kudos to you for making that clever sarcasm.
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gungrave
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 10:32:21 PM
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BikerSaint
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 10:58:41 PM
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I said basically, this exact same thing in the last GT5 thread....
(Except I was just a wee bit less tolerant & and just a slight smidgen more scathing in mine) LOL
"BUT", I was looking forward to it already having Move & 3D capabilities, since for the life of me, I can't figure what else they could have been doing all these extra months(especially since they already stated, "We can release this anytime", way, way, way back in the year 2009).
So exactly what have they been doing with all that extra time??????.....
Aging the game in Oak barrels using some specially aged secret charcoal-filtered paint-sealing fermentation distillates up in the moonshine stills hidden around the Kentucky Blue Grass Mountains???
Oh hell, it's got to be at least 100% proof already, so just bring the game before it's special vintage sours into vinegar.
Even Jim Bean & Johnny Walker are saying, "Enough is enough already"!!!!
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Darthvintage
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 11:28:49 PM
roughly more than 900 cars will be in the game. each car can take up to 5 people and over 50 man hours to get the job done. And they way the model each car is by taking Full 720 Degree angles pictures of each car.
They also had to get the WRC and NASCAR License. and the permission from the car manufacturers to feature the car in their game.
Last i check the release date was for japan and nothing was said about EU or NA.
the latest i've heard the KY said is that the game was 90% Complete.
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eLLeJuss
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 11:02:43 PM
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Scarecrow
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 11:41:18 PM
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kraygen
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 11:14:35 PM
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LittleBigMidget
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 11:25:06 PM
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Scarecrow
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 11:40:23 PM
PS: When Need For Speed or any of those new racing games manage to give me YEARS worth of entertainment then I will agree with you.
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A2K78
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 11:29:01 PM
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Alienange
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 1:02:11 AM
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shadowscorpio
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 3:55:43 PM
Last edited by shadowscorpio on 4/10/2010 3:59:36 PM
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shadowscorpio
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 3:59:10 PM
Very true. What good is the thought of playing a game you want to play if it never gets released?
Take too long to release something and some people might be dead before they can play it.
Whoops! Just lost some of your customer base cause you TOOK TOO LONG!
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BigT_1980
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 11:33:24 PM
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Scarecrow
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 11:37:37 PM
Seriously, as if you work at Polyphony
The reasons are beyond whatever any racing game has. it's more to do with the fact that they feel it's not complete (could be anything from the online infrastructure to the 1000+ cars or the 30+ tracks they're adding)
Why should GT5 even care about the features Forza has. As if any of Forza's features match the racing experience GT5 will give you?
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Deleted User
Sunday, April 11, 2010 @ 1:02:38 PM
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Scarecrow
Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 11:33:58 PM
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I'm serious. if there's one racing track I seriously miss from the GT franchise, it's that one.
I also don't mind the delay at all. But what I do mind is what Ben is saying here, what is the real reason they're delaying it? They should just let tell us.
And yes, 3D isn't necessary, and MOVE is even less necessary...
I just hope I can drive to the LUSH, sunny, and smoking racetracks in GT5 this Autumn*
PS: They better add all the Autumn Ring race tracks...love that track.
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daus26
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 12:57:28 AM
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daus26
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 9:29:55 AM
GT1: in
GT2: out
GT3: in
GT4: out
GT5: in?
We might have a good chance! Lol jk. It doesn't matter, but interesting to note.
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animalmother
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 2:32:13 PM
Good note Daus, gives me hope. I'ld love the underpass SSR11 from GT1..that chicane could really wreck your race in a hurry.
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daus26
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 12:56:36 AM
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Knowing Kaz, I'd bet anything that he wouldn't delay his game for a casual feature like 3D or PS Move. Just no way.
Like I mention before, this is just like the GTPSP scheme. I just know that Sony interuppted them during GT5's development and forced PD to make GTPSP to help with PSPGo's launch. It has to be especially when Kaz said in an interview that GT for the PSP will continue production once GT5 is over with. Obviously that's not the case! Who else is to blame?
I blame most of the fault to Sony if this game is to release in fall or later.
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Jawknee
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 12:57:41 AM
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MyWorstNightmar
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 9:20:00 AM
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Jawknee
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 12:10:00 PM
Also I'd love to make some jazz music but I'm not that talented. If Billy Holiday was still alive maybe i could join her band.
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Alienange
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 1:06:01 AM
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From what we've heard it doesn't have either of those things. Someone somewhere is just making excuses.
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BigT_1980
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 1:10:49 AM
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Last edited by BigT_1980 on 4/10/2010 1:16:05 AM
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___________
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 2:00:13 AM
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all we expect and want from GT5 is 4 very simple things.
1 lots of cars and tracks? CHECK!
2 realistic physics? CHECK!
3 damage models? CHECK!
4 absolutely mouth watering graphics? CHECK!
GT5 has all that, and more and has so since the demo shown at E3 last year so what the hell is going on?
either damage models is taking them much longer than they expected or there working on some more bells and whistles no one wants.
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godsman
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 2:34:09 AM
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I don't mind waiting for it. I gurrantee that this game will be the best selling PS3 game of all time.
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___________
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 8:33:34 AM
thats one perfect way to say thank you to your fans, release the game than work on the 3D and move support and release it as DLC.
1 fans would be happy because they get the game sooner rather than later.
and 2 it gives PD a chance to charge a small fee for it maybe, but than that could backfire you know how tight a$$ed some people are these days.
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Naztycuts
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 3:26:28 AM
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xnonsuchx
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 3:35:51 AM
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Gordo
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 3:46:42 AM
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Sony are bringing out 3D TVs soon so GT5 is the flagship title that will help this happen.
Move is coming out soon. GT5 is helping that along to.
So, the game is probably finshed and ready to go but Sony wants to optimise it's potential to be a PS3 mover, a 3D TV mover and a Sony Move err mover...
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Tim Speed24
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 11:51:35 AM
C'mon and release it already... Jiminey Cricket on a cracker!
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FullmetalX10
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 4:09:38 AM
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I must say, I am kind of psyched for it too, I mean it does look really awesome.
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daus26
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 5:08:43 AM
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Some things we have to note:
1. Sony is fully in charge of when GT5 is to release.
2. Sony is aware of the scale of GT's popularity and perhaps taking advantage of it, in a bad way. In a bad way as to release it in the holiday for sales boost, or to coincide with 3D/Move.
3. It was never clear why the delay took place.
4. If the game is to be 90% done in January (according to interview), a delay of 6 months just doesn't make sense. Also, official game cover was released to public in the same month.
5. The delay was sudden. Literally a day after the CES interview when Kaz said March release for Japan, the delay was announced.
I just don't get it. What in the world is going on with this game? Did PD saw/thought something as to quickly change their plans (see point 5), or was it Sony's plans?
If we're honest, it would make sense if Sony is a big part in all this. So, we can't keep on glaring at PD all the time.
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0_o
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 5:24:10 AM
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This is just perfect if it turns out to be true, it's tuesday and most of games release on that day and many exclusive games released in October like, LBP and Uncharted 2!
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JackC8
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 7:59:03 AM
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Review it when it comes out, and other than that, I don't care to hear about it any more.
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Imagi
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 8:17:41 AM
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LittleBigMidget
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 9:28:48 AM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 10:29:33 AM
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Jawknee
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 12:11:29 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 2:56:11 PM
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animalmother
Wednesday, April 14, 2010 @ 7:34:26 AM
Also if you know where to look on certain forums, you can find very high level(but very fun) organized racing. Some races are tuneless days where drivers drive factory set cars(not customization) others are full PP for that event.
GT5P was and is never boring, provided you're actually a fan of racing.
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sha4dowknight05
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 10:38:35 AM
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In the end the person who opens this game up won't care if that minor detail is there or not they just care if they are having fun or not. The game might look spectacular but in the end the guy will still play super mario 64 over this, simply it's more fun...
word.
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daus26
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 1:56:26 PM
You say it like they don't care about gameplay or haven't really focus on it. To Kaz, I think it's about the experience, and that experience effects the gameplay (graphics + 60fps + 1080HD + up to 16 cars offline/online + Nascar + Rally + F1 + Possibly ground-breaking online features + so on..).
Surely they have put some thought on what matters, and beyond.
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Hezzron
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 11:02:26 AM
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If they implement 3D, maybe they can also put in a backseat playing perspective. That way I can enjoy the complete car sickness effect.
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Irievibes
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 3:59:26 PM
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556pineapple
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 11:12:24 AM
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hadouken
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 1:02:48 PM
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Mornelithe
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 1:25:06 PM
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I, for one, will say, please Polyphony Digital, please Kazunori Yamauchi, don't listen to the people who are overly anxious. Just continue to do what you do best, make amazing games. There are plenty of things for gamers to keep themselves occupied with for now, so it's not like there's a drought of gaming currently. The basic fact of the situation is, a good majority of those complaining and overly anxious about dev time, will be buying the game anyway. To say nothing of the core GT crowd, which is large in and of itself.
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Mornelithe
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 1:27:30 PM
My guess? The delay was simply to allow for a worldwide launch in Oct-November, while giving PD more time to finish cars. I think the 950-1000 is really the biggest driving factor in time myself.
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daus26
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 1:41:35 PM
If you think about it, 950-1000 cars was pretty much already confirmed as well as the first official release date for Japan (they sounded confident too, about the March release), so surely the modeling for all those cars were probably on schedule.
Just my thoughts on this.
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Mornelithe
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 3:04:15 PM
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sha4dowknight05
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 2:00:26 PM
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a good replay option and a good fun online with mic chat and all the other good things you need for a game party!
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NoMoreWar
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 2:56:25 PM
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RadioHeader
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 4:27:05 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 2:57:14 PM
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DemonNeno
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 4:28:08 PM
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They already made a grave mistake by delaying this game this long. Lying about the status of the game makes it even worse. The worst has to be the fact that we are now twiddling' our thumbs without a truthful explanation as to WHY we have to wait 5 years for this game.
I know it breaks a lot of peoples' hearts for me to say I don't care anymore whether I live to see this game or not. It all boils down to how a company is treating the fans. It's not a good habit to live out an endless batch of lies. It's not fair to those who anticipate it, purchase a PS3 for FAR HIGHER prices (assuming it would release one of those dozen times we were told it would) and find out they could've waited for a slim. In fact, at this point, they could've waited for a PS4!
To top it all off, by the time this game will end up in someones living room, the hype of the PS3 will probably be on a decline as far as I'm concerned. This game was meant to "wow" us graphically. I'm not saying the physics won't be a milestone, but all this polishing their polygons, shaders and textures will be zilch when it lands right in the middle of the "advanced" generation of PS3 graphics.
If this game was meant to turn heads graphically, Sony has done a good job of blowing some of that hype right outta the water. Before you boo on me on this, realize what I'm saying. The PS3 is being pushed close to what we can all agree on as it's limit. It's not a magical system. It has muscle, but it has a ceiling. Games are looking phenomenal. The better they look, the less impressive GT5 will look in return.
The PS3 has an abundant amount of incredible achievements on the table. Unfortunately, they aren't aware that what they may consider nothing more than a reason to turn in more buyers (GT5) has already done just that. Those of us who bought the console in hopes of getting our hands on this game deserve as much. Their financial planner needs to pull his head out his ass and realize they've stabbed quite a few loyal gamers square in the back.
Almost seems these guys are in for the S-E Tea Party with all this stupid jive!
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WNDRTWN1
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 5:55:16 PM
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SmokeyPSD
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 6:08:02 PM
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FlyingKickPunch
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 6:09:53 PM
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FM23
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 8:41:52 PM
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BikerSaint
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 10:16:05 PM
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To add the greatest realism yet, Yamauchi has been secretly working hard on the Mother-in-law back-seat driver feature.
Anytime your speed reaches 32 & 1/8th MPH/KPH, she'll pop right up behind your right side, slap your arm & give your ear a one of her patented hysterically-strict tongue-lashings for the next 72 hours!
The GPS & 3D features will assist you in finding the most remote of all areas to dump her body.
And the Move feature will assist you in digging her a 6'X6' personal rest area.
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maxpontiac
Saturday, April 10, 2010 @ 11:20:31 PM
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When the game is released, I will be buying it, and so will nearly everyone else.
End of story.
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furbiesmustdie
Sunday, April 11, 2010 @ 2:30:21 AM
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D1g1tal5torm
Monday, April 12, 2010 @ 4:46:42 AM
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By delaying the release, expextation is exponentially rising.
Satisfaction is unacheivable.
If naughty dog can release a game ofsuch immense proportions then surely polyphony could of already done so as well.?
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orangpelupa
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 12:23:40 AM
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i just cant imagine how much the cost GT5 has eaten and how much disc sold needed to pay the cost...
its been in developmen for too long.
i just hope it wont become like duke niukem forever
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kiwami_nemesis
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 @ 4:22:29 PM
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a simulator needs a steering wheel
I have no info about the GPS but if it is a tool to be used with a real car when driven at an auto-x or road course then upload the data to your ps3 to analize your times, g-force, braking points,etc... then that be great.
Poly said some about a track editor maybe the gps data can be used to recreate ower local tracks.
I rather have a hydrolic platform to mount a seat which can give the player more feedback of what the car is doing over 3D or move.
Other whise release the game now. We all getting old waiting for it.
Move/3D leave for a download update or the next gt game
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Xra897
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Friday, April 09, 2010 @ 9:45:35 PM