Ben's Week In Review: May 16

A very busy week right here...we'll try to make sure all angles are covered in terms of reviews. :)

If this is true, we gotta see more of it

When I heard the report that White Knight Chronicles 2 would actually release with an updated version of the original WKC, that got me to thinking: isn't that a damn good idea? Not only will they include the first title with the sequel (which makes perfect sense, as WKC2 is a direct follow-up), but the developers will also overhaul the original so it features the new mechanics and additions in the sequel. ...how sweet is that? Now, I'm well aware that Level 5 is going above and beyond the call of duty, but I really think it would behoove many designers to take this same approach when it comes to certain sequels. It may be a little more difficult to "upgrade" the original so it holds all the enhancements of the sequel - depending on the project - but just the idea of packaging the first game in with a sequel...it's just awesome. Everyone often complains about "bang for your buck," especially in regards to shorter experiences, so wouldn't this be a very nice option?

And if they could manage to overhaul the original adventure so it plays like the sequel, that's even more incentive. It'd be one thing if this were the movie industry and sequels are never as good as the originals, but it's basically the opposite in gaming; many sequels really are better because the technology and refinement gets better. It should definitely be the case for WKC2...

Another example of what developers should do

So they insist the single-player campaign in Dead Space 2 won't suffer due to the new multiplayer mode, and that's primarily because Visceral has two separate teams working on each aspect of the production. This appears to be a running theme with EA, too: for Medal of Honor, EALA will produce the single-player quest and DICE will handle the multiplayer modes. This is exactly the type of thing other designers should do, because we've all noticed examples of the multiplayer emphasis infringing on the quality and longevity of single-player campaigns. I think the recently released Splinter Cell: Conviction is a definite example. It's fine by me if you want to cater to all those who absolutely require a multiplayer experience, but I'm convinced that too many game makers are underestimating how many fans remain who prefer the single-player aspect. They've been doing it for years. But maybe they're starting to come 'round...

Have you noticed that almost every time a developer details a multiplayer mode in a new game, they make a point of saying how it won't hinder the single-player experience? This means they've heard the complaints, at the very least.

Personal gaming update

Unsurprisingly, I'm in a definite jam. I didn't expect to like Nier as much as I did, and now I'm struggling to finish before the big games for this week arrive. Then there's 3D Dot Game Heroes, which again, I honestly didn't think I'd want to play through to completion, but damn...it's Zelda! I'm wondering if I'll be able to review Red Dead Redemption and Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands, stop long enough to finish Nier and 3D Dot Game Heroes, and then go back. However, it's more likely I'll have to keep playing the new gems because I'm convinced they'll be damn good...I hate it when this happens. It drives me nuts to have games in my collection I haven't beaten, and it's annoying when they start to pile up. Probably shouldn't complain, though; a lot of great games is always better than not enough. ;) It's just a matter of time, really.

Not much else to talk about. My car now has two coats of wax on it and is fully detailed and ready for the summer, which is always nice. Cars like that benefit from a definite shine the whole way 'round...

5/15/2010 Ben Dutka

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, May 15, 2010 @ 10:11:11 PM
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While I think it is totally cool that WKC2 may pack in the first game, updated, they now have the problem of not getting new customers for the first iteration (which was great JRPG fare)

Umm, as you all know from my Dante rants Visceral can do no wrong by me and I loved Dead Space so I actually trust them when they say the SP won't suffer.

I'm stuck in 3DDotGameHeroes, I can't find the old man in the desert temple, help me!?

Oh yeah and I'm upgrading to a 37" TV as we speak (post)

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SayWord
Saturday, May 15, 2010 @ 10:21:27 PM

Haha ill help man. He aint in the desert temple! He at the inn close by it. :p I almost platinumed the game :)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, May 15, 2010 @ 11:02:31 PM

holy f*ckin sh*t I would have given up on the game before lookin there! THANKS

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Hitch
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 1:59:48 AM

Kratos still kicks Dante's ass any day!!!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 3:12:38 AM

He'd win in a fight I'll give ya that.

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FullmetalX10
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 6:06:26 AM

Which 37" TV are you getting World?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 4:36:02 PM

Well I'm not so rich so I went with the Vizio

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Kowhoho
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 6:45:15 PM

Dude, Vizios are legit HDTVs. Both of my family's HDTVs are Vizio brand, and they're very nice.

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Alienange
Saturday, May 15, 2010 @ 10:30:02 PM
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If developers want to hand out two games for the price of one, why don't they just do that off the bat? If it were to become a trend I can easily see people saying "Hey, I'M not buying the first game. YOU buy it so I can get the two pack later."

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MyWorstNightmar
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 3:26:38 PM

I would say the sales of WKC has been underwhelming, .58 million total according to VGChartz. Maybe if they pull a stunt like this for the second game, the sales for the second game will be through the roof. Anybody who passed on the first game, but always had a slight itch to get it, well, now, they will jump at the chance for the second game. (that includes me.) This is brilliant, think outside the box sort of marketing move.

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Kowhoho
Saturday, May 15, 2010 @ 10:41:33 PM
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I've been playing a lot more of Uncharted 2's online mode recently; I guess a little break from it did me some good. The main event though is FFXIII, which has actually surpassed my expectations after all the negative press. Who knew?
In my non-gaming news, I have been collecting all of Hayao Miyazaki's films and just watched Ponyo on blu-ray, an absolutely stunning film. I recommend it to anyone who watches movies with their families or values animation of the highest calibur.

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Alienange
Saturday, May 15, 2010 @ 10:53:19 PM

FFXIII is fantastic. Not letting a game stand on it's own merits is a mistake.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, May 15, 2010 @ 11:04:40 PM

but don't you guys get tired of it being mainly a grind with cutscenes?

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aaronisbla
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 12:22:07 AM

the game got what it deserved from most sites, its the first FF game that i can honestly say i can't see myself waiting for a replay thru it again. Most of the other FF games put that spell on me, not this one though

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NeoHumpty
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 8:32:37 AM

I didn't get disappointed with FFXIII until AFTER I beat it. That's when you realize how little power your characters really get from all the grinding.

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aaronisbla
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 2:39:52 PM

^^ damn, thats how i felt, it ok till the end, ending was nice, but it didnt give me that " i just beat another awesome FF game" feeling i normally get, especially after i grind and beat the hardest enemies on the game

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Alienange
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 4:22:53 PM

@ WorldEnds - You just described every jrpg in existence.

Fight, advance the story and see new places. Nothing wrong with that. It's good fun.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 4:38:59 PM

naw man, in others you get to explore, talk to people, go through the stuff in their towns, it breaks up the grind nicely. I always breathe a sigh of relief when after a big grind I can saunter into a new town, have a laugh at a typical jrpg joke, rifle peoples drawers, etc.

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Kowhoho
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 6:50:46 PM

There are several points for and against FFXIII in general, but when all's said and done, I agree most with Ben's description: RPG Lite. It's a very "Lite" RPG but then, it's the best possible quality Lite you'll ever play. That's how I look at it. If they had chosen a different gameplay direction it would have been just as well-thought-out.
I guess what I mean to say is that they made a perfect system that also just happens to hold your hand and automate most things, which many people hate. I don't like it all that much but I can get over it.
Other things like the lack of NPC's who actually talk to you are pretty large detractors but luckily the visuals are encapsulating enough to make you want to advance.
P.S. I haven't gotten to Gran Pulse yet, so from what I've heard here and there I expect my experience to be greatly enhanced later in the game.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 8:53:21 PM

You you'll have fun in Gran Pulse, but it still doesn't fundamentally change much. It's just more open.

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chedison
Saturday, May 15, 2010 @ 10:50:06 PM
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I've been attempting to appease myself at some more Demon's Souls while I'm really only thinking about playing Red Dead Redemption is 3 days. That game is ALL I've been thinking about for over a week....

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Jiggy
Saturday, May 15, 2010 @ 11:45:14 PM
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I'm gonna have to pick up WKC2 now. Oh and just put on my second coat a couple weeks ago...been raining ever since...good gaming weather though!!

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Snaaaake
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 12:04:33 AM
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I still haven't play WKC and if WKC is really being included in WKC2, WKC will be off my list for good.

Because it ain't FF and I'm not a huge fan of Level 5, I can wait a year or so for WKC2.(that is, if WKC2 does comes with WKC)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 12:33:27 AM

Level 5=good

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kraygen
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 12:59:38 AM

wkc is so much fun. I enjoyed it so much! I don't mind in the least that I bought the first one and it's going to be added to the second. I waited for the first one for 2 years and was not disappointed.

Can't recommend it enough.

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Vitron
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 8:27:11 AM

No worries, i'm buying it!

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LittleBigMidget
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 12:25:42 AM
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Red dead for me on tuesday, got my Wii fixed in time for SMG2, preordered LittleBigPlanet 2 from Gamestop today, and I only have 3 more trophies till I platinum Heavy Rain.

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spiderboi
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 1:46:49 PM

Good for you sir. Finished HR but will platinum it later, lent it to a friend and got to borrow GoW3 which was surprisingly shorter than i anticipated (but still worth the price my friend bought it with :)

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frylock25
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 12:32:35 AM
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i have been playing mag all week. i am up to level 50 almost. i am getting sick of the idiots on there that want to kick you for no other reason than for them to be squad leader so they can have the points. most of the time they dont even have a mic on and say anything they just try to kick you.

my cousin got his psn account back this week. someone had stolen his account and changed it on him. he contacted sony and they looked into it. the person that had stolen his account charged a bunch of stuff to his credit card. sony called him back and said they had pretty much assumed something was up in the begining because so many things were bought in a short amount of time. they restored everything for him.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 12:45:42 AM

Sony=good

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SnipeySnake
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 2:39:44 AM

Whats your psn?

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kraygen
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 1:02:35 AM
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I'm currently playing Record of agarest war like mad. I have finally gotten a ff tactics style of game to play. I love fftactics but I've beaten it so many times I just needed the same style with a new story. They do have some very key differences but I'm loving this one too.

Next week tho I'll be getting red dead, followed by modnation the next week. After that I won't be buying any games for several months most likely, but then again, I won't need to.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 3:16:44 AM

After Red Dead, the only thing I'll get this year is Fallout New Vegas. Then no more games for me until I come into some more cash or something comes along that is good enough for me to sell my body.

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Shams
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 2:49:59 PM

Um, World, are you forgetting possibly inFamous 2 (though I hope it is released next year rather than this year). Guess you're not much in to racers, but GT5 is surely on my list, along with Modnation Racers (even though I have MS1&MS:PR along with Wipeout HD/Fury). And what about R3? and KZ3? Save on booze, and get these games!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 4:40:15 PM

no I don't do racers, cart or otherwise, and there is no way in a monkeys arse Infamous 2 hits this year. But when it does its a D1P.

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kraygen
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 5:22:17 PM

hey world just so you know modnation is way more than a kart racer, its lbp with uber awesome racingness. More modifications, easy to create tracks, karts, mods. I know it's not for everyone but I hope you at least check the demo and give it a try. So much fun.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 5:25:26 PM

yeah I'm informed on it, but it just isn't for me, you guys will have to race on without me :)

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Shams
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 1:12:54 AM
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I've been playing GTA4 and the Episodes in anticipation for Red Dead. R* seems to have taken a similar move as L5: GTA4 gets upgraded with content from Liberty City Episodes. I've been thinking of just selling my EFLC disc and getting the DLC versions just so I can combine the soundtracks. TLAD is a forgettable experience, but BOGT was nicer with spruced up visuals, better story, and action. I've already beat it, but I'm sure it'll be worth a second playthrough at some point.

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Hitch
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 1:58:16 AM
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Monday at midnight = Me picking up Alan Wake, PoP The Forgotten Sands, and Red Dead Redemption.

Tuesday morning = Me going hungry cause I can't afford breakfast due to me purchasing 3 games.

*Sigh* It's a gift and a curse!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 3:13:56 AM

man, even the dollar menu will be too expensive for you after that.

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frylock25
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 5:35:43 AM

something tells me that if you only picked up 2 of those games and waited one week for the other you might be able to afford to eat for that week. i mean you can only play one game at a time and whats a week... but then again i would probably justify it also

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Shams
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 2:55:57 PM

I'd like to clarify on behalf my friend, World, after knowing him from his commentary over the years, that he did not imply any social, racial, or cultural insinuation regarding "dollar meal".

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 4:41:18 PM

haha, thanks for that disclaimer shams

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booze925
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 2:19:08 AM
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u really need more workers if u have THAT much trouble keeping up with everything.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 3:15:28 AM

Give em a break, if 2 guys can run the best PS community I have ever hung out in they deserve plenty of slack.

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spiderboi
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 1:43:28 PM

More appreciation less complaints. Or better yet, contribute to the community by giving great info on stuffs to help out Ben and the gang.

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Snaaaake
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 2:45:11 AM
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ND added multiplayer to UC2 WITHOUT degrading the single player and instead, the single player experience was tons better than UC1.

What do we learn from this?
PS3 exclusives simply doesn't need to sacrifice anything for the sake of adding another because of Blu Ray.

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Alienange
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 4:35:02 PM

Precisely. You want to add multiplayer to your epic singleplayer? You better go with the system that doesn't gimp your great ideas.

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Kiryu
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 2:57:38 AM
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My dream is that if sega re-releases Yakuza 1 with Japanese voices and subtitles and included Yakuza 2's Combat.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 3:11:49 AM
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Splinter Cell Conviction a little short for ya Ben?

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THEGODSLAYER
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 6:00:55 AM
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lol world ^

i bought it for the pc and beat it in 1 day, disappointing but the game was pretty awesome. def worth 20 bux, to bad i paid 50.

never played dead space before, just picked it up yesterday game is amazing im soiling my pantaloons playing it.

prpbably pick up arkam asylum goty this week.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 4:42:34 PM

Visceral Studios=good

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FullmetalX10
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 6:42:26 AM
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I'm all about the single player, yeah, ima make a rap out of that:

Mthrfckr f*ck multiplayer
B*tches think that's what it's all about
But the real niggas know it's the solo which count
All the h*es on modern warfare
God of War is all I care
Steppin' on the multiplayer soldiers, I'm the solo God of Warfare!
Yeah B*tch

hurray for bad grammar, (censored) cursing, and hatin' on call of duty, I could get a record label out of that.

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FullmetalX10
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 6:50:17 AM

No but for real, I enjoy a good single player a lot more than a multiplayer.
and I might look into WKC sometime, think I'll give it a rental, because right now, I don't have the money to go out and buy games.

btw, Red Dead Redemption will be an exception to the hatin' on multiplayer (Uncharted 2 also)

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JackC8
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 7:53:35 AM
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Dead Space 2 is easily my most anticipated game. What they're doing with the two teams to work on single player and multiplayer is great, but still the fact remains: the game has a budget. If the entire budget is put into the single player, it will be better than if some is siphoned off for multiplayer. I'm just so sick of this idea that EVERY game has to have multiplayer.

The whole concept of added value via multiplayer is something developers are really missing the boat on. How about some first-class DLC that adds new weapons and new levels / environments? Something that would make people really want to play the game again to experience the new stuff? Last time they just gave us weapons skins and different colored suits.

Personally I'm getting real close to finishing Red Faction Guerrilla. Love that game. The variety of strategies you can use in attacking your targets is the best part about it. It usually requires a mix of several different strategies to successfully complete a mission - so you actually have to work out how to approach a situation. Speaking of DLC, I'm definitely going to be buying the "Demons of the Badlands" DLC for this, as it's a short prequel to the full game.

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chedison
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 3:58:37 PM

Is that a game worth picking up still? I'm thinking about getting it some time this summer and wondering if it's any good.

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VicTheMighty
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 10:15:47 AM
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Yeah but let's not forget that might be a PS3 only advantage (including the first game with the sequel) I don't see 2 games fitting on one Xbox DVD... And I don't see them wasting more money on adding one dvd... So only Sony exclusives might benefit from that because I don't think MS is going to let multi-plat titles include 2 games for Ps3 and only one on Xbox for the same price lol... T-T

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Snaaaake
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 10:19:55 AM
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I just have one thing to say.....SCREW ONLINE MUTLIPLAYER FOR RUINING CO-OP MULTIPLAYER!!!

What happen to split screen now?
We had a lot of split screen game back in the previous gen......

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spiderboi
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 1:41:54 PM

One good news i heard was that ModNation Racers will be supporting 4/player splitscreen. Nice! Like playing good ol' CTR with the buddies... :)

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Alienange
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 4:57:16 PM

Yeah well I say screw split screen. It's an archaic technology that used to be the only option for multiplayer before the internet was invented. When games today offer split screen it barely gets used by anyone.

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MyWorstNightmar
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 7:41:55 PM

I didn't know having friends over to play multiplayer video games was "archaic". I always have to remind myself you are from Canada though...

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bigrailer19
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 10:05:46 PM

Im with alienange on this one.

If a game has co-op split screen its good for one thing! If your buddy dont have the game! thats pretty much it. Otherwise id rather have my whole screen anyday and chat it up with em over the psn!

now a game like modnation racers would be fun split screen but again you lose a lot of angles and the frame in which you play. LBP and 2d scrollers can make good use of same console co-op though but thats not split screen so...

Im all for devs putting it in a game for people, but i prefer to play co-op with a friend on the other end of a mic, no split screen for me anymore.

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Alienange
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 10:11:16 PM

I'm also over 15 years old.

You want friends over to play? Great. I just prefer games where everyone is on the same screen or takes turns. Splitting the screen up into little boxes is archaic.

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spiderboi
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 1:37:28 PM
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RDR FTW! come on local store bring it out already...

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Deleted User
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 3:03:19 PM
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@ Ben,

This sucks. It's like a double edged sword. I guess it's good that they decide to include an "updated" version of WKC 1 in WKC 2 but that just basically means Level 5 acknowledge that WKC 1 was a faulty product and they have to go back and refine and tweak WKC 1 in order to make it a legit product.

Not only that, but the consumers who bought WKC 1 are basically screwed over because it proves they bought a faulty product and got screwed out of $60. The consumer could have easily waited and saved $60 by buying the packaged WKC 1 and WKC 2. The consumer will also be getting a better version of WKC 1. What a joke this is.

Yeah, the gamer is getting a better value by buying the packaged WKC's...but the gamer who bought the original WKC 1 got screwed over.

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MyWorstNightmar
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 4:16:19 PM

For those on this site that have played the game, I hear rave reviews. I believe Limited has put in upwards of 100 hours into that game questing. Before this news of a possible two game disc, I doubt those that have the game and put some serious time into it feel they have gotten cheated in some way.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 4:46:40 PM

I don't feel cheated in any way and it isn't a faulty product in any way. If they pack in an updated version with WKC2, I'll be playing the new version of part 1 all over again just to see the tweaks.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 7:24:05 PM

That's not how you should look at it. Most all sequels are better than the original these days; it doesn't mean the consumer bought a "faulty product;" all it does is give NEW consumers added incentive to dive in.

The people who played the first don't have to play the updated version, but they do have the option. I really don't see the downside.

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spiderboi
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 10:39:11 PM

or it screws the current stores that have WKC 1. No one's buying those until 2 comes out :)

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Fane1024
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 4:02:46 PM

There probably aren't many stores with (new) copies of WKC anyway, since it probably had a limited "print run" and is now no longer in production. There will be even fewer by the time WKC2 appears.

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Scarecrow
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 8:52:36 PM
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Diooooooooooo =*(

We just lost a god...

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 8:53:59 PM

the guy from the Golden Saucer?

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Scarecrow
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 9:06:32 PM

Ronnie James Dio

The metal GOD

You know, the guy who invented the devil's horn sign \m/

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leatherface
Sunday, May 16, 2010 @ 9:15:02 PM
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@ world no, the MAN on the Silver Mountain. R.I.P DIO
Metal God

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