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Ben's Week In Review: May 23

It has been a supremely busy week so tomorrow I'm going to do next to nothing until I have to do news at night.

Westerns suck...but Red Dead Redemption doesn't

And you know, the gaming public has definitely responded. They estimate that over a half-million copies have been sold in the first few days of availability and after analyzing the game, it's easy to understand why. However, I think it proves just how important immersion is in games of this nature; i.e., wide open, freedom-oriented. Thing is, RDR is absolutely GTAIV in the Old West so there's no reason whatsoever for a person to hate one and love the other...besides the very different settings. When it comes to interacting with an expansive, vibrant world, designed entirely to suck us in from the get-go, we have to like where we are. And I've found that although I don't like Western movies, I most certainly like playing a Western movie. And that's crucial. No matter how good San Andreas was, I didn't like it anywhere near as much as Vice City. It's ridiculous to say the latter was superior; just about everything was better in San Andreas in terms of "reviewable" facets. But hey, it's about...absorption.

This is what's going to keep me playing RDR for a very long time, and it further proves that games and movies are vastly different. The interaction has completely changed the idea of a Western for me.

Maybe Square-Enix SHOULD try new stuff...but then again...

So the company wants to maybe try their hand at some "new IPs" in the near future, so as to bolster their current stable of franchise titles. Back in the original PlayStation days, they were able to give us stuff like Vagrant Story, Xenogears, Threads of Fate, Parasite Eve and even Einhander. Now, I have no illusions of returning to the glory days of Squaresoft but after S-E disappointed a lot of long-time Final Fantasy fans, maybe it is a good idea to try something fresh. Maybe they can introduce the next big role-playing series. The more I hear about Final Fantasy Versus XIII, the more I'm starting to think it's not the answer (just more real-time, RPG-lite stuff, it seems), so maybe an epic new approach will be welcome. Of course, they still won't cater to their long-time fans; they seem determined not to do that, but maybe an answer to something like Dragon Age: Origins. Wouldn't that be interesting?

On the other hand, they have tried new IPs in the past and they didn't exactly impress critics or heat up the sales charts. This is why they've been sticking with so many established IPs (obviously), and maybe it's best they continue to do this. I don't know. All I know is that while FFXIII was indeed a great achievement, I will probably never play it again and FFVII will always be played.

Personal gaming update

So it's going to be all about Red Dead Redemption but I'm actually going to start over and play it the way I play most RPGs I love. I sort of had to rush along the story and miss a lot of side missions and other optional stuff to do the review, and I hate that. So I really want to dive in and start fresh, which I can't wait to do. But because I also hate to have so many incomplete games on my plate at once, I'm going to finish Nier, 3D Dot Game Heroes and Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands first. I just finished reviewing the latter and while I don't recommend it as an automatic purchase, I've always loved the Prince games and I like it, so I'll finish it. I'm close to the end of Nier and I doubt 3D Dot Game Heroes can take very long. And oh yeah, I'm wearing an RDR t-shirt now. ;)

I've also played ModNation Racers (Arnold will give you the review soon but Sony also sent me a copy), and it's about what you'd expect. I think it's great; so much customization and freedom. You can really lose yourself in that one; I promise. But it's not really my thing, so onwards. But there's little rest for the weary as Backbreaker, Alpha Protocol and Naughty Bear should be coming my way in the next few weeks.

5/22/2010 Ben Dutka

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Comments (97 posts)

Danny007
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 10:05:27 PM
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I can't wait to see the reviews for Naughty Bear.

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Scarecrow
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 2:09:11 AM

lol

I agree

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Sol
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 2:36:13 AM

Same here...

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hellish_devil
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 10:12:05 PM
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Alpha Protocol! Finally!!!

....So today I was trying to kill the Flamelurker in Demon's Souls in my NG+, but it has become like x100 harder, so I wanted someone to summon me as a Blue Phantom, but nobody did! So I went to Latria to kick some Fool's Idol ass.

Any advice on the Flamelurker?? I'm at Soul level 105

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 10:27:02 PM

I'm gonna stay skeptical about AP until I see some reviews. For some reason I get a bad feeling from it.

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Darthvintage
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 12:17:00 AM

your going to be very pissed at who you have to face after him

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aaronisbla
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 6:10:08 AM

he knows whats coming since he is on a ng plus.

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Turbey
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 7:30:16 AM

Have you tried using Soul arrows or Soul Ray? I`m sure those hurt him pretty bad...if I remember correctly.

Oh, and yeah. Flamelurker isn`t that bad, just wait later on..

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hellish_devil
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 10:55:17 AM

Dragon God was easy, at least for me. Flamelurker is harder IMO

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FxTales
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 10:18:35 PM
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How long roughly does story mode in Red Dead Redemption take if anyone knows?

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Danny007
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 2:05:39 PM

I've played it for 8 hours now and only have completed 40 percent of the game. Hope this info helps.

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Alienange
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 10:20:22 PM
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I'll give you $15 for your shirt.

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MyWorstNightmar
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 10:21:50 PM

I think you should stick to your usual fluffy pirate shirts.

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Alienange
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 10:33:23 PM

I gave up the pirating gig a long time ago. It's just that it's summer now and this hakama is too hot.

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MyWorstNightmar
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 10:36:04 PM

Oh, I didn't know you get the sun in Canada. I thought your weather was like here in Seattle.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 12:01:16 AM

Nope. Mine.

And you can't have the old-fashioned bar of soap, dice, or deck of cards they sent with it, either.

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MyWorstNightmar
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 12:13:26 AM

AAHHHHH HAAAAHHHHH, now we know why Pachter wanted his free copy from R*.

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Alienange
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 1:16:56 AM

Ok fine. Keep your RDR shwag. I'll take a PSXE shirt instead.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 7:17:46 PM

Actually, I think Val has one...

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MyWorstNightmar
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 10:21:02 PM
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Ben, wish you had a Wii. Galaxy 2 comes out tomorrow. And the amazing reviews just keep pouring in...

But hey, its not like you don't have a shelf FULL of games to play right now as it is. I just hate to see a fellow game enthusiest like yourself miss out on the 2010 game of the year.

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MyWorstNightmar
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 10:27:16 PM

Too bad there is no online Mario/Luigi co-op eh Jawknee?

Will have to wait for WII Part Duex for some better online connectivity me thinks.

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Jawknee
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 10:28:16 PM

Too bad, nothing i want more then to share this GOTY experience then with a Wii pal. ha

Seriously though, this game is gonna kick ass!

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sawao_yamanaka
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 10:59:17 PM

I don't know about goty. Maybe wii goty but don't forget about gow3 and heavy rain. Either way the game is pretty cool. Got it yesterday :) from my friend at best buy so awesome!

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MyWorstNightmar
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 11:16:40 PM

Sawa, you have a friend that hooks you up at Best Buy AAAAAAND you live in VEGAS??? Oh man, you are livin' the dream my friend.

Oh, and to be GOTY, yes, it would have to beat out games like GODIII and Heavy Rain, but to be the best you gots to beat the best.

On a side note, it is quite amazing how many quality games there are for the PS3. I never realized it until getting a PS3 last year. Course back when I first got it, the quality titles didn't come at you at fast and furious as they do now. The Wii just can't compete with that. The Wii has only a handful of absolute must owns.

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sawao_yamanaka
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 11:20:28 PM

That would be good though. When was the last time a nintendo game got goty? I wish I was living the dream! :P oh well no sleeping tonight. Catching up on RDR now that I finally put Galaxy down. I do want online coop though. :(

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MyWorstNightmar
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 11:33:45 PM

Sawa, to answer your question, the last time Nintendo got GOTY was with the first Mario Galaxy! lol

And by all acounts, it sounds like the second one pushes the envelope even further. Although, this year, there is stiffer competition then there was in 2007.

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sawao_yamanaka
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 11:42:47 PM

2007? Lol wow that was a while ago, at least that is definitely a good sign. Yea there are I wasn't expecting so many good games coming out this year at all. Well if they don't win at least platformers are gonna have a tough time following this title they will have to learn from this!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 12:03:23 AM

I don't care if the game gets 10s...if I compare that to Uncharted 2, God of War III, Heavy Rain, it's still very, very silly.

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sawao_yamanaka
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 12:15:31 AM

:) To each their own.

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MyWorstNightmar
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 12:17:06 AM

Ben, please expound on that statement. Silly? Does a game have to have a level of seriousness before it can win game of the year, or your play time? Not sure where you are going with this. Does that make someone who plays the game....silly? I know you don't feel that way, I just didn't really get your comment. Mario doesn't try to be Uncharted, just like Uncharted doesn't try to be God of War.

Also, for a game reviewer/critic to state that other reviewer/critics giving the game perfect scores, and then for you to say you don't care, it is still "very silly" (almost discrediting their oppinion to critique a game properly), seems a bit close minded on your part. And that coming from you, someone who fights againts closemindedness whether it be bias against the PS3, bias against video games in general, bias against the kinds of books you like to read. I dunno, it is a little surprising to me.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 12:56:35 AM

I'm not discrediting anything. I'm sure the game is great. I'm also sure it's not the epitome of advancement, progression, and cutting-edge forward-thinking in the industry. I'm not saying the game sucks because of this; I'm merely saying it shouldn't even be in the same ballpark as the games that define industry benchmarks.

Look, there's simply LESS to talk about in a game like Mario Galaxy. There's a lot LESS that can go wrong. Take Tetris, for instance. There's really nothing wrong with it. Not a damn thing. In that respect, a critic would have to give it a 10 because there aren't really any flaws.

In regards to Galaxy 2, we don't have a professional voiceover cast with all the right acting direction from the director. We don't need classical musical scores from the best orchestras assembled. We don't need an in-depth and rewarding storyline. We don't need engaging character development. We don't need any facets of any other gameplay elements besides platforming (in an world where genres are blending, adapting, and often innovating constantly).

No, we don't "need" any of that. ...at the same time, when all you're really scoring is basic control and game design, how hard is it to get a 10, really? In short, if we're not seeing the best of the best in any given category (Galaxy doesn't have the best graphics, best overall sound, best story, best cinematography, best artistry, best scripting, most depth, etc, etc, etc.), than how can we in good conscience compare it to the ACTUAL best that we've seen?

I've been thinking about this a lot ever since I saw that 10 from GameSpot. I'm sorry, but Wii games shouldn't even be on 10-point scales the way other games are. And for the record, I would love to have the time to play Galaxy and I'm SURE it's fun. That's not the point; not from a critical standpoint.

A game would have to be superior to other games in multiple major categories in order to warrant superior scores. "Oh, it's just fun" is not a solid basis for delivering a perfect score. I'm sorry, but that's the harsh truth.

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Alienange
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 1:10:00 AM

I liked your Tetris analogy. I think I learned something here tonight...

Oh, and Mario games are silly.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 1:11:53 AM

Here, let me sum up what I mean- look at all the many categories of awards in Game of the Year ceremonies for major sites, including ours. Now, at the end of the year, can you honestly say Mario Galaxy 2 would win ANY category? Would it even be nominated? It sounds odd to even ask, doesn't it?

So if that's the case, how can it possibly win Game of the Year? It would have to be magic...it's not the best in anything (not even remotely close) but overall, it IS the best...? See what I mean?

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MyWorstNightmar
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 1:30:21 AM

Ben, all very good points as always, and I can definately agree with you in your logic. I apreciate you clarifieing your previously short comment. As I haven't played the game yet, I can't really rebut anything that you have said. All I can go by is what others in your profession have experienced by playing the game extensively.

Now, to infer that there is not much that can go wrong when making a Mario game, I guess if that were true, we would have 10 mario style games come out a year, and they would all get perfect 10's, because they are so easy to make/develop. I can't believe that to be true, but it would seem that you might believe that.

Where Mario has an advantage over all those other great games you believe to be superior, is that it seperates itself from those games. It couldn't be farther, or more different from those games. What do we know? Bowser is gonna capture the princess, Mario has to save her, and he has to go through a lot of Goomba's to save her. So how does Nintendo continue to amaze using the same old premise? No one gets graphically killed, no guns are used (unless you include getting shot out of a cannon...) This is not a rehash of 2007's game, this is a redo, with all new elements. It is just hours and hours of fun, challenging puzzles, colorful worlds, unique gameplay, and replayability that appeals to all age groups. No other game can match that, and for those reasons it would be up for overall game of the year, IMHO.

Would I pick to play Mario Galaxy 2 over all my PS3 games? Don't make me choose. I'm gonna play em all, and enjoy them all.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 1:36:23 AM

The Marios typically do get 9+ without any problem. I think they all do.

But regardless of how long it takes them, my points stand. I grew up with Mario and I have no doubt these games are still great fun. I just don't believe we can score them on the same exact 10-point scale we use for the industry leaders.

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baseballdude_ [Administrator]
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 2:09:13 AM

Ben, even when comparing apples and oranges, you can still like one or the other better. :)

I agree that it's a lot harder for games like GOW and Uncharted to get a 10, but games like the Mario's and such are just so creative and innovative.

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Mavfan321
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 4:27:26 AM

I want a Wii, if mostly for the Nintendo brand games, you can't even go wrong. The next Zelda from initial reports sounds like it's heading in the wrong direction. "EASIER?" For who, grandma to play it?! (Ocarina of Time is one of my favorite games ever beat it in middle school.)

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spiderboi
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 9:36:51 AM

Expounding more on the oranges and apples, its more like which game has more mass enjoyment appeal which I believe makes up a great percentage on what makes a GotY. This puts previously unrecognized genres with the likes of Heavy Rain on a rather handicap (but its so gratifying that the community came to appreciate such a masterpiece). Enjoyment factor is what..wait for it....Modern Warfare the mass market success it has been. Sure we can rate games on measurable benchmarks on graphics, sounds, immersion etc, but in my opinion its mass enjoyment that racks in the GotY title. That being said, Ben makes very good points but like I mentioned, there are non-quantifiable factors that make a game GoyT (appeal may be indirectly connected to total revenue, but that is not 100% true in correlation).

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Temjin001
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 11:19:37 AM

The first Mario Galaxies is one of the greatest games I've ever played. The game was pure mastery of it's form and it offered many new, not mention clever elements of play that kept it consistently fresh and interesting. Without a doubt it was a legitimate contender for GotY when it released. Mario Galaxies 2 has every capacity to do so this year as well.

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Phoelix
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 1:07:57 PM

I think Shigeru Miyamoto pissed off the pantheon of video game gods and was given the power of brilliant game design--but with the curse that he could only make games for 8-year-olds for the rest of his life.

Seriously, think about it.

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Shams
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 2:19:48 PM

SMBG2 could very likely take the cake in game/level design, art direction, and controls, but I do see what you mean, Ben. PS3 to me is the happy medium between Wii and PC gaming. Wii is too low-end most of the time, and PC gaming tends to be too expensive, less convenient. And both seem to be sparse in terms of must-plays. So PS3 suits me quite well. 360 comes close at times, but frankly, it's more like a low-end pc, than an entirely unique platform.


At the same time, SMBG1/2 are the only reasons why I want a Wii. It IS magic. First-party magic. The same magic that I love Sony's platform for.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 7:19:42 PM

People are perfectly welcome to enjoy what they will. I have no doubt Super Mario Galaxy 2 is fantastic...but I will never place it in the same category as the MGS4s, Uncharted 2s, Heavy Rains or God of War IIIs. In good conscience, I really can't.

I still want to play it, though. :)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 10:26:12 PM
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Massive amounts of agreement all over the place, RDR is definitely GTA in the old West, but while I'm thoroughly enjoying it I kind of wish there was a bit more of Red Dead Revolver in it than GTA.

SE has screwed themselves, they may still be rich but wow I've never seen anyone purposely alienate their fans in such a way. Their new IPs so far aren't burning up the charts anyway. They really need to send us a game that says they remember us.

I still have to finish 3DDotGameHeroes as well, but I also have Star Ocean 4 and now RDR going. Speaking of RDR here's a little gift:

I preordered from Amazon and my golden guns code came in the box, but today Amazon sent me another code. It should work, no reason why it wouldn't so first come first served, just punch it in, with the dashes, at the downloadable content screen on the title page:

TPVG-NW89-U4NQ-U6WR

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MyWorstNightmar
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 10:38:03 PM

World, you are my new best friend. Golden Guns unlocked for yours truelly. I feel all tingly inside. I wonder if it would work for anybody else, or if it is a first come first serve.

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Jawknee
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 10:40:48 PM

Nice World.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 10:41:39 PM

That was my first come first served one time deal Nightmar, glad to be of service to a fellow constant PSXE contributor :)

I do what I can for the community that's been so good to me *single tear*

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MyWorstNightmar
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 10:50:37 PM

I don't know what to say, other than getting something for doing nothing, I feel like a, a, a Democrat? And I like it.

In all seriousness, thanks World, that was a nice solid.

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Jawknee
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 10:55:04 PM

There's another word for it, it's called a freeloader.

;)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 10:59:00 PM

You're welcome, enjoy the extra fame when you use those guns.

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MyWorstNightmar
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 11:36:42 PM

Ah yes, it just hit 9:30, and the kids are finally in bed. Time to play some RDR! Of course with my Golden Guns! THANK YOU WORLD!

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Gordo
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 12:23:42 AM

I pre-ordered as well but don't have my PS3 connected to the Internet (most people in Australia don't due to the rip off IP packages).

Someone can have my Golden Guns Weapons Pack as well:

V4AK-PXCN-YVKA-4BSL

Enjoy!

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tes37
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 12:37:14 AM

I ended up with 2 also, World.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 12:46:47 AM

Share the wealth! That's the way to do it.

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I_defenestrate
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 12:49:24 AM

Thank you Gordo! I will dedicate all of my kills to you.

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tes37
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 12:56:33 AM

I will. I offered it to Chedison since he's in my psn friends list. Haven't heard back from him yet since he's not logged on. If he turns it down, I'll post it.

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Ultimate_Balla
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 10:35:30 PM
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Prince of Persia: Warrior Within had 5.5 or 6.5 overall. . . Did you like that one?

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hellish_devil
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 11:07:04 PM
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Instead of doing new IPs, they should get sequels to some of their games, such as:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%27s_Knight

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Gordo
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 11:46:44 PM
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Loving RDR at the moment. I don't see it as a GTAIV clone but more of a western Assassins Creed II.

I hated the gunfights and no saving withing missions in GTAIV and thankfully RDR has sorted all of that out.

The gunfights are excellent. I'm happy just bounty hunting and sneaking up on the targets and blowing them away.

Good stuff.

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maxpontiac
Saturday, May 22, 2010 @ 11:56:27 PM
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"Westerns suck...but Red Dead Redemption doesn't"

Disagree sir!! Some of my favorite movies are Westerns. More specifically, Clint Eastwood's. I love all of them!!

And yes, RDR doesn't suck. It's awesome!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 12:01:42 AM

Meeeeeeh. Predictable and really over-the-top cheese. Could never get into them. I know how much people love certain ones, though.

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MyWorstNightmar
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 12:19:49 AM

Max, how are you and your son liking the multiplayer of RDR? Does it have lasting appeal do you think? Or do you think it will run its course pretty quickly?

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Jawknee
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 12:25:26 AM

Ever see 3:10 to Yuma Ben? With Crow and Bale.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 12:46:32 AM

No, but I do love Tombstone. I think it's the only Western I really like.

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sawao_yamanaka
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 12:56:47 AM

Hehe val kilmer is awesome in that.

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tes37
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 1:05:07 AM

The Clint Eastwood westerns used to crack me up. Every gunshot ricochets without fail.

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Jawknee
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 1:05:46 AM

In that case you should watch it. Like you i never really got into any Westerns except...Tomb Stone and then 3:10 to Yuma.

It's a good one. Also check out the Proposition with Guy Pearce. Both of those were better then Tomb Stone in my opinion. :)

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Geobaldi
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 2:35:04 AM

Deadwood was a great series with a Western setting as well.

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bigrailer19
Monday, May 24, 2010 @ 9:44:20 AM

myworstnightmare...

The MP should have some lasting appeal. As for the free roam it should as well, as long as they keep implementing content. To me the free roam feels unfinished, theres stuff to do, but not at all what i thought would be there. Hearing about the free co-op pack coming soon is what leaves me thinking they are nto quite done with the free roam, which has huge potential and is already fun with friends!

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maxpontiac
Monday, May 24, 2010 @ 11:42:47 AM

Ben -
Sorry you feel that way! I was raised in a family that watched Westerns alot. Perhaps you weren't? The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly is pure classic western from that era!! And yeah, there was some cheese in them, but it was all good in my book!

MyWorstNightmare -
A good question. But right now, we play it together quite abit. I think the game will eventually run it's course though. I also believe it's very important that Rockstar keeps bringing in new Free Roam content. How about you, you enjoying it?

Tes37 -
Indeed! It's just another reason on why I love those movies!!



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Alienange
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 1:19:23 AM
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Could it be that Final Fantasy has finally run it's course? It's not likely to ever go back to it's hay day is it? So who's really going to run out and get FFXV whenever it hits?

I kinda like FFXIII, but I don't know, something tells me I'll pass on the next one.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 2:01:30 AM

Pass on Versus or XV? For the first time in my life I am now going to have to do the research before purchasing FF games at anything less than used bargain bin because despite the high production values and decent stuff in XIII, it was probably the worst in the series for it's simplicity and pure lack of what should be there.

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Mavfan321
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 4:28:54 AM

Well if you believe an FF game should be nothing more than progressing a story without any sort of worldly interaction give me my thumbs down.....NOW!

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Scarecrow
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 2:15:20 AM
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The Modnation demo was beautiful!

It actually takes skill to bet good! Something I wasn't expecting that much, at least not in the level that it actually takes to be good.

Beating the CPU is something, but this game will actually take real skill against other players!

Can't wait to get my hands on it. Love the character I created in the demo lol, will use him in the full game.

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RDR is great, I can easily see how the game draws you in for hours :)

I think it's one of those great games I won't get for a while (maybe years). Not really into Western movies and all that stuff. And there are so many other games I still need to get, going all the way back to last year...

On FFVersus XIII, that's why I said I wanted to see FFXV already since I knew Versus wasn't going to be the true FF we've been waiting for.

It's more like a Kingdom Hearts/FF spin off

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___________
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 2:30:47 AM
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im happy to say mod nation racers is even better than what i expected it to be!
for once a game met my expectations than exceed it.
chickenator now thats a classic!!!!

im dying to give RDR a try, ill probably start it tonight and put PoP on shelf since im really not enjoying it.
i can see that being the resident evil 5 of this year, sadly.

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Kangasfwa
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 3:16:58 AM

Holy crap! He said something positive!

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Snaaaake
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 9:44:26 AM

It's not the first time, but every time he said something negative, I bear no ill feelings towards him.
It's nice of him to give out his opinion on games he played.(But the problem is that he is saying as if it should be the fact instead of his own opinion)

And ______, I remember you said you liked Gun right?
Well I'm glad I'm not the only one who liked it!!!

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RadioHeader
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 3:26:35 AM
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Finished GOW3 on Friday - Loved it. Bought ModNation Racers on Friday - Loving it.

I've been really looking forward to MNR ever since last year's E3, and it's everything I hoped it would be. With a glowing review from __________, you just know you guys are in for a treat come Tuesday.

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Scarecrow
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 8:30:06 PM

How did you get it so early!?

Can't wait to get it next week

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FullmetalX10
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 3:49:53 AM
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omg, do I hate retail stores right now. Not only did RDR still not arrive(won't be here till tuesday) but at the opening of a new game store(a game mania) I tried to buy 3d dotgame heroes, since I saw it sitting on the shelf and I had some old PS3 games at home to get like 20 bucks off the price, so I stood in line for a whole hour (those cashiers were slow as hell), and when it was finally my turn the dude at the register told me they didn't have it in stock -_- So that was a lot of time wasted I could've been playing RDR, cept I don't have it yet since em dam people won't deliver!!!one!!1

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Ergi
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 5:16:30 AM
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Seems i really must get RDR pronto. But i'm getting around to actually get FFXIII, I have decided i'm just going to call it XIII.
As for Square-enix trying something new, sigh, I don't know. It's more of a wait and see kind of thing, my expectations have gotten lower as of late. Though still waiting to see more of Versus, I know it's no a true FF but FF-Dissidia was still fun.

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aaronisbla
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 6:23:30 AM
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RDR is probably one of the best non-fantasy open world games ive ever played. Grizzly and boar hunting up north now

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Veritas Vincit
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 7:00:57 AM
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Ben lets see a pic of that RDR swag!

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JackC8
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 7:16:03 AM
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Looks like I'll have to pick up a copy of RDR :)

I played quite a bit of Need For Speed Shift online this week. Pretty fun until you have 5 races in a row where people keep ramming you off the track. I'm also on the very last battle in Red Faction Guerrilla. Epic! Got Netflix on my PS3 this week as well. Streaming is absolutely awesome - 17,000 movies to choose from. Yippee!

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chedison
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 6:35:18 PM

I'm still tempted to pick up RFG man... Would you suggest it? (even though I still have Red Dead Remption lol)

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LightShow
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 7:51:17 AM
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i tried renting RDR, every single rental store in KC is out of it.

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Snaaaake
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 9:59:41 AM
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One question guys, is the PS3 version of RDR worth a full price purchase when the resolution is not 720p?

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Oxvial
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 10:12:50 AM

I'd say yes .

also read this.

http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=19855

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MyWorstNightmar
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 10:32:00 AM

Although this lower than 360 res battle is an unfortunate reality, the game still looks great on the PS3. Play it for the experience, rather than the unnoticable resolution difference.

If you have a 360, then perhaps get RDR for that system instead.

When I play it, I've never once thought to myself, if only the res was a bit better.

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chedison
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 12:23:38 PM

I agree with Nightmar. If you have a 360, I'd say buy it for that. But if not, it really isn't a problem.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 3:07:19 PM

I doubt you'd notice the difference if you played them both, the only graphical issue I see is the aliasing all over the place, but it doesn't bother me I'm enjoying the experience. Once you are immersed your criticisms disappear.

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Snaaaake
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 6:35:09 PM

Thanks guys, appreciate it.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 7:20:50 PM

Of course. The game looks great, regardless.

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Jawknee
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 7:38:42 PM

I wonder how much of the Cell R* actually used.

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bigrailer19
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 12:36:08 PM
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I just wanna say TO ME the only comparison ive made between RDR and GTA is the developer. It doesnt feel like GTA to me and some will disagree but it doesnt. I feel like there is so much more meaning to the game. Which leads me to say, If i had to put a number on it, id say at least %60 of the people who bought and played GTA4 didnt finish it let alone probably only played it to drive cars and kill people.

Every person on my friends list, except the few who only have a couple games is playing RDR and every one of them says they are immersed in it. Ive never gotten that with any GTA, GTA to me is just fun, but doesnt hold a lot of meaning, or content.

Comparing RDR to GTA is the obvious comparison because of R* but to be fair thats like a slap in the face to all the other great sand box games, because somehow this comparison makes GTA king of open world games... I dont like that, but thats how i feel.

RDR is a great game and in its own it does a ton of stuff different than GTA and puts a great amount of emphasis in the wild west in a great way. Its something completely new and fresh TO ME. Does any one else feel like RDR should be said its a great western and a great game, something we havnt gotten in the best of both worlds? Or is the only way to get people to like it or have interest is to say its like GTA?



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BeezleDrop
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 12:43:31 PM
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Lightshow,

Your are from Kansas City as well? Probably not, but up north Blockbuster still has a few copies, honestly though I bought RDR on day 1 because I knew I would put more time into it which means it wouldn't justify a rental. I can understand if you are trying to save some money. If anyone wants to posse up, I am MOGUNS82 let me know!

@ Snaaaaaaake,

I believe RDR is worth the full price on the PS3. It is to me.

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StangMan80
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 4:44:47 PM
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ive played the game for 8 1/2 hours and im at 25 percent but i hunt alot play poker housesho and other stuf lol

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Scarecrow
Sunday, May 23, 2010 @ 8:32:59 PM
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BY the way, sorry Ben, but Mario Galaxy 2 CAN compete with any game out there.

So good to see Miyamoto and his team delivering a solid Mario game again!

Should be sick if they decide to make a real next-gen console next time around.

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