Ben's Week In Review: June 20
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the PatriotsE3. Over. ...lots of articles. And videos. Monosyllabic communication may be the only possibility and yet, I can't miss my Week in Review.
Metal Gear Solid: Rising lets me see the other side...
For months, all long-time Final Fantasy fans have been saying that FFXIII felt disappointing, primarily because we were looking for something different. We were looking for something distinctly Final Fantasy. What we got was a new installment designed to drag in new - perhaps distinctly Western - fans, which is why fans sorta felt a little betrayed. I maintain the game is fantastic although I say that in comparison to the rest of the series, it falls short of super-lofty expectations. Now, as for Metal Gear Solid, I love the franchise but I sort of got into later (around MGS3) and therefore, I'm not as personally tied to it...which in turn is why I think Metal Gear Solid: Rising looks awesome. I know it's an obvious departure but the game looks polished and beautiful and crazy entertaining, so I'm psyched. At the same time, I'm not surprised to see a lot of negativity coming from the lifelong MGS followers.
See, I get it. I get it because almost the exact same thing happened to "my" franchise. So now I can see it from both sides, and I can better understand both sides. My brother, for instance, is currently playing FFXIII and he loves it. It's the first FF he's played and in fact, one of the first RPGs, but wasn't Square-Enix's goal to ensnare people like him? For Rising, I love the old MGS but I'll keep an open mind for the shift because, I suppose, the old gems don't sit quite as close to my heart.
Some of my E3 highlights
Obviously, we were big fans of the Twisted Metal announcement, only in part because Dave Jaffe and Scott Campbell really showed us some love. PlayStation Move now interests me a little more, I'm very very glad Gran Turismo 5 has a finalized release date, and Killzone 3 pretty much blew me away. I was also impressed with what EA brought to the show, as both Dead Space 2 and Medal of Honor were definite highlights, in my opinion. I also think it's just plain amusing that we finally heard the booth babes speak out about the gamers and journalists they see during the week. There are always certain aspects of every E3 show that one tends to remember, and I can guarantee the Twisted Metal unveiling and Gabe Newell's shocking announcement won't be forgotten any time soon.
Personal gaming update
Obviously, I didn't have a heck of a lot of time for games, but I've finally managed to get out of Mexico in Red Dead Redemption, and I finished up Joe Danger. Next up is probably Alan Wake, although I might just wait until my birthday; in the meantime, I'll take a break. Maybe I'll start up a game of FFVII or FFT, which is my default option whenever I take a break from new games. With the first half of 2010 featuring so many huge titles, I've struggled to keep up but strangely enough, I'm not really behind. Of course, Castlevania: Symphony of the Night is always in the running for a nostalgic replay. And there's something else, too- I've been honestly considering a Wii purchase for the sole purpose of playing Super Mario Galaxy 2. I hate buying a console for only one game but this might have to happen. We'll see.
By the way, now that our secret is out, I can finally explain how we came to know about it; thought you might like to know. Back at the end of 2008, we did an interview with Jaffe and Campbell. I spoke to Scott first and during that time, he started telling me all about Twisted Metal; he used the name more than a few times, which confused me. Then when I spoke to Dave and started referring to the project by its name, he stopped me and said they hadn't announced any such game. Then I told him about my conversation with Scott and he seemed surprised, but asked me very politely if we could keep it under wraps. I agreed. And that's the way the situation stayed until this past week. There. Happy? :)
6/19/2010 Ben Dutka
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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 10:16:01 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 10:58:22 PM
Trust me, if I was, I would've already had a Wii. Outside of their mascots, they really don't have any new games that seem appealing to me.
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Deleted User [Administrator]
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 11:26:17 PM
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Scarecrow
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 1:46:54 AM
-Okami (the Wii version is the best version)
-Cave Story (instant classic)
-Zack & Wiki (great platform game)
-Lostwinds: Winter of the Melodias (fun platform game which uses the Wiimote perfectly)
-Klonoa (remake) (a remake of the original masterpiece)
-Muramasa (BEST GAME EVER!)
-Red Steel 2 (it's actually really good)
-Rune Factory: Frontier (non-fighting rpg, but it's very fun, Harvest Moon anyone?)
-Tales of Symphonia 2 (yeah...)
The Wii's got some great games.
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Deleted User
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 10:05:31 AM
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sobleck
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 1:49:59 PM
I'll admit, i didn't take a liking to link's last outing on the wii, but i haven't been able to play it for more than 15 minutes at a go since i don't have a wii.
P.S. I'll be stoked if you reply :D
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Mavfan321
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 2:01:00 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 8:46:15 PM
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nogoat23
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 12:06:49 PM
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sobleck
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 7:11:43 PM
@No goat 23. Actually both my cousins have Wii's, but I've already got such a long queue of Games to purchase and to finish, I doubt borrowing it would do more than deprive either of them of their console for a few weeks with no real use of it coming from me. Ever since graduating from Uni and working full time, I haven't had as much time to game as I previously did.
As a result i've sort of loaned my Xbox 360 to one of my cousins and he's had it for so long that he's bought an extra controller for it and multiple games. I don't think i have the heart to take it away from him now, he not really a fan of his wii anymore, although his dad loves it. I'm currently focusing on ps3 and PC gaming for now.
P.S. Thanks for replying guys
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sobleck
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 7:11:49 PM
@No goat 23. Actually both my cousins have Wii's, but I've already got such a long queue of Games to purchase and to finish, I doubt borrowing it would do more than deprive either of them of their console for a few weeks with no real use of it coming from me. Ever since graduating from Uni and working full time, I haven't had as much time to game as I previously did.
As a result i've sort of loaned my Xbox 360 to one of my cousins and he's had it for so long that he's bought an extra controller for it and multiple games. I don't think i have the heart to take it away from him now, he not really a fan of his wii anymore, although his dad loves it. I'm currently focusing on ps3 and PC gaming for now.
P.S. Thanks for replying guys
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MyWorstNightmar
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 10:06:42 PM
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Hey, there are other games besides SMG2 that warrant a purchase.
Going to download Joe Danger tonight!
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MyWorstNightmar
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 10:24:09 PM
Ben from PSXExtreme : "I want a Wii!"
A $20.00 game I recommend from when the Wii first came out is Zack and Wiki. Very little known, but highly graded puzzle game.
Don't forget Wii New Super Mario Brothers. And if you have never played, you must get Pikmin 1 and 2. Originally for the Gamecube, but Pikmin 1 is now on the Wii, and Pikmin 2 is supposed to be release on the Wii. It is already in Japan. Pikmin 3 is due hopefully this year.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 11:02:10 PM
And yeah, trust me...if I get a Wii, I will have to search for other games to play besides just the one I bought it for.
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MyWorstNightmar
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 12:05:48 AM
With the Wii, you are in a position to really only worry about playing the best of the best though.
With your job, you have so many games on the PS3 monopolizing your time. When it comes to the Wii, you can afford to be choosy. In that sense, I would bet that you will likely grow quite a fondness for the Wii because your only experiences can be the true ACES of that system.
Now if it were your only system, and you had to reach on a lot of games trying to get your gaming fix, you would probably come away with a much different oppinion of it on a whole. They can't all be Triple A Nintendo Exclusive games!
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 12:49:04 AM
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MyWorstNightmar
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 12:53:29 AM
I just ping'ed Jawknee that HELL hath freezeth over, Ben is going to dip his toe in the Wii waters.
I still can't believe it. When I read it, I blacked out for 10 minutes. When I came to, I re-read it to make sure I wasn't hallucinating. I blacked out again. I now have a concussion from hitting the floor with my head. I just learned Obamacare won't cover. Stay tuned.
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Jawknee
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 1:10:40 AM
Ben, anyone who likes plat-formers will like Mario Galaxy 2. Some of the level design are the best I've seen.
Other games i suggest:
Tatsunoko vs Capcom
Super Paper Mario
Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition
I know you didn't like Ocarina of Time but if you can find a friend to loan you a copy of Twilight Princess, it's at least worth a try. :)
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MyWorstNightmar
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 1:24:00 AM
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johnld
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 3:42:03 AM
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frylock25
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 12:16:11 PM
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Jawknee
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 1:09:42 PM
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GuernicaReborn
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 10:14:03 PM
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So how did the exclusive interview come into play? A good faith offering from Eat/Sleep/Play? Extortion? Blackmail?
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 10:59:13 PM
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main_event05
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 10:14:37 PM
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Random_Steve
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 3:04:15 PM
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Jawknee
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 4:43:32 PM
it's not by Kojima. Hes not writing or directing the game. The only association he has with it is producer and his companies name on it. Hes left this game in the hands of an independent team and hes made that clear on a number of occasions. In fact he seems to distance himself from the game anyway he can when asked about it.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 10:15:25 PM
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I'm not especially attached to MGS but it is sad to see a name used to sell something that doesn't appear to hold the core gameplay. Which is why I was disappointed with FFXIII too.
Juggling lots of games lately, another Heavy Rain playthrough, Fallout 3 DLC, RDR (which I am nowhere on) and I should finish the last battle on Star Ocean The Last Hope tonight or tomorrow. Ben, it's too bad you gave up on that one; it really is the best in the series despite a few flaws.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 12:44:48 AM
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johnld
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 3:45:44 AM
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BikerSaint
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 10:16:43 PM
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I know you probably won't, but you can always save a lot of money by going my route & just buy a used Wii system.
I'll bet there's millions of "hardly used" pristine condition Wii's sitting boxed up in someone's closet, just awaiting new adoption papers.
Just make sure to check that it came from a kids-free home.
That's exactly how I'm going to get my Wii later this year.
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GuernicaReborn
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 10:28:33 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 10:59:53 PM
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Jawknee
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 5:54:17 PM
Still works.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 12:56:26 AM
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Bugzbunny109
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 10:22:09 PM
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frylock25
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 10:46:09 PM
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still workin on mag also but my gf is tired of watchin me play that and really only that lately so i picked up heavy rain so she could enjoy it and she thinks its cool.
@ Ben you only want the wii for part 2? not the first one? if i ended up getting a wii i would score both of those and the other super mario bros game they made that looked cool.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 11:01:15 PM
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frylock25
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 11:52:50 PM
if you ended up scoring a wii and a few games, after playing them it might be cool to maybe do a little editorial on it. just an idea. you know it would not seem right to have a review like you do for Playstation stuff but throw up a random sunday editorial... kind of like the car stuff you guys are doing. we all love PS3 but we are all here for gaming.
if its good play it.
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johnld
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 3:49:18 AM
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Shams
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 10:55:50 PM
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Me, I'm psyched about Rising, too. I only got in to the series recently (a couple years back). I played MGS1 and MGS2 before I broke down and played MGS4. I was able to follow the story well enough, but I admit, I kinda felt a little burned out...like how you feel after an overnight cram session for a test back in the school days... They seem to be using the same graphics engine for Rising as they did for MGS4, except this time, there clearly is more of focus on action... The DVD-Nerf effect is gonna guarantee a downgrade in many things, though, like cut-scenes, and sound, and textures...but as long as the action is there, I'm good. I'm a total NG fan.
I'm enjoying ModNation Racers these days (beautiful game), and I'm playing through Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 on Master Ninja difficulty, and I've remembered how much of an adrenaline rush that game packs...Awesome. I'm also playing LBP in chunks, and just finished my fourth playthrough of U2 on Crushing (that game never gets old). I'm thinking about playing Dead Space again, and I'm pondering over downloading Pixel Junk Shooter, Soldner-X series, and Joe Danger.
Oh, I also sold my 360. I figured my hands were full with my ps3 library (understatement), and I might as well get the most buck I can from trading my 360 2005 model now. Alan Wake, Mass Effect 3, and Gears 3 just didn't get me excited enough to keep it. Maybe, I'll pick up a used one later (preferably the new one).
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 11:00:39 PM
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Shams
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 1:08:38 AM
When I played the sequel, my hopes were up. The graphics were hardly an upgrade, but still impressive (like when you got to shoot up the brumac in the face, and see all the polygons fall like gravel). The game lacked the wow effect of a new game, because the world was the same, the whack-a-mole action quickly became repetitive, lacking variety, and the story felt tacked-on and it dragged on. It showed glimmers of inspiration at times (like the exchange between Marcus and Carlos that took place as they debated searching for Carlos's wife), but it just dragged on and got really dreary to the point where I ceased to care.
Mass Effect 2 was also cool, but I found myself pushing through everything to just to see the story play out, in the same way. And though I played through it twice, it wasn't exactly a memorable experience. It was plenty of fun while it lasted, doing upgrades, getting new skills and characters, and doing side-missions, but after wards, it just didn't leave enough of an impression.
The thing is, they both used the Unreal Engine, and the gameplay of both games reflected that, and it all felt the same. Characters are not very maneuverable, and so the actual gameplay just doesn't invoke as much fun as games like Uncharted 1 and 2, or inFamous do.
A.Wake seemed like a cool game, but I was expecting a survival-horror experience, and from the reviews, it seems less of a Dead Space and more like an action-adventure, almost like an Uncharted-in-the-dark, just not as polished. So, it's safe to say after playing Uncharted 2, A.Wake can't even hold up a candle. And so, I can pass.
And honestly, after Ninja Gaiden 2 got released on the ps3, I just didn't have enough reasons to keep it.
This may change though, depending on how good Gears 3 and Mass Effect 3 are. I may just get another 360. However, the problem with reviews for the 360 games, is they usually hype up the games unrealistically, like they're getting paid to do so. And user reviews (other than psxextreme's of course) are garbage, because they're either 10's or zeros. So I don't know. I'm more than happy with my current collection. But if MS manages to snag a couple of GOTY-worthy titles in the future, I may just have to try them out.
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Shams
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 2:43:45 AM
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Highlander
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 5:23:16 PM
The 360 uses a unified memory architecture with 512MB of RAM that is dynamically allocated depending on the video render mode that the developer uses. I'm not sure what it was that CliffyB asked MS to do, but they didn't do it, the architecture already allows a game developer to allocate as much as they want from the 512MB (minus the amount used by the resident portion of the OS).
The other RAM in the 360 is the embedded RAM in the GPU package. The so-called embedded RAM isn't embedded on the actual GPU die, it's on a daughter-board (or was, with the die shrinks they've done, it should be possible to put it on chip now). At the time it was implemented there was no way to include the embedded memory on the same physical chip as the GPU, it would have been nigh on impossible to manufacture. So the GPU is supplied as an integrated package with the embedded RAM embedded in the package that is then integrated as the GPU on the 360 motherboard.
But the thing is that RAM was sized to handle the full anti-aliasing of a full-resolution 576p image, not an HD resolution. Whether it's a coincidence or not I don't know, but the limitation of the 'free' anti-aliasing and other tricks that the embedded RAM allows is 576p resolution (or there abouts), and not an HD resolution like 720p. A very curious decision really.
Anyway, whatever it is that CliffyB was supposed to have asked for, more embedded RAM on the GPU would have been a great idea.
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Shams
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 7:55:16 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 8:51:29 PM
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Highlander
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 8:56:49 PM
OK. But as far as I know the system was always designed to have 512MB of RAM. I'll have to go back and do some research, as far as I can remember the design for the 360 always included 512 MB of ram, it may have been limited to 256/256 with a hard partition. I'll have to check for my own reference. What MS may have done is removed a 'hard' partitioning and allowed dynamic reconfiguration of the memory half and half between the GPU and CPU or something.
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Shams
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 10:14:15 PM
There's a short description under the section titled "Emergence" that details the last minute change in RAM. Not very technical, but does mention the change from 256MB to 512MB.
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Shams
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 10:38:25 PM
@Ben: Yeah, i hear ya. But I don't eat burned toast. Gears2 was burned toast. Halo was the closest thing to first-party excellence that was available on the 360, and now that series is burned toast, too. So I'll stick with the reliable toaster...the one that consistently turns out first-party exclusives.
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Highlander
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 11:36:54 PM
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Shams
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 11:54:21 PM
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Highlander
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 1:01:16 AM
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Temjin001
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 1:37:17 AM
I still believe to this day that 360's longer term success has been majorly affected by that one decision to double the RAM.
Also, I hope you the best on completing Sigma 2 on Master Ninja. I haven't owned up to tackling that mode as of yet.
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Shams
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 10:45:22 AM
Oh, and Sigma 2 on Master Ninja is a real hair-puller. I've never thrown a controller in all my years of gaming, but I had to resist punching the ground a couple of moments this time. Resaving at save-points, and reserving heal-points is extra critical at this level of difficulty (where only a single hit can spell death), and for that reason, requires a lot of backtracking. Although I haven't really played much of Demon's Souls, I imagine it's a very similar experience in this regard.
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Temjin001
Tuesday, June 22, 2010 @ 3:15:02 PM
But props to whoever can get through it.
Have you tried the original NG2 on Mentor, worse yet, Master NInja? I started my way through on Mentor and it was pretty aggravating. Definitely harder than Sigma 2's mentor difficulty.
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Shams
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 @ 11:12:06 AM
So overall, as petty-minded as it seems, that is the primary reason I traded-in my 360. My favorite game on the 360 came to the ps3 even better than before.
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Temjin001
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 10:58:55 PM
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Many games looked better than I anticipated.
For PS3 I thought Gran Turismo 5, KZ3, Twisted Metal, and Infamous 2 all looked great. And I like the more gamer-centric angle that Sony took when introducing the E3 crowd to Move technology. However, I'm concerned about the quantity of quality software that will be available for the peripheral.
Being a fan of MGS since PSX I don't really don't mind Rising's unique design. Playing as Raiden in MGS2 just made me want to play as Snake. However, after viewing the awesome abilities Raiden learned since then in MGS4 I totally welcome a game that will cut out a unique slice of the MGS universe for Raiden-pun intended =p
For 360. Gears 3 impressed me. I was beginning to think the series was about to hit a wall in ingenuity, but Gears 3 is looking very nice indeed. I also dig the organic lush looking levels. And despite the totally sub-par Halo ODST I have faith the series can still pull off a great game. For me, I still can't tell yet if Halo Reach will be a homerun, or merely a ball hit in deep outfield.
I haven't played through a Zelda since Ocarina of Time and when I started reading about the new Zelda's one-to-one combat motion tracking I became pretty interested. Though, after watching the E3 demonstration of the game the combat still looked real rough and surprisingly difficult for even the creator to control.. I have my doubts that the Wii's now dated control interface can handle what they're trying to achieve.
I will say that the new 3DS has me a lot more intrigued now that I've seen what it can do. I wouldn't have ever expected it but their are some real good quality games coming down the pipeline for it. MGS3, Ninja Gaiden, DOA are a few that took me by surprise. It also helps that most hands-on impressions I've read are very positive. The Digital Foundry has noted that the 3D display is surprisingly impressive.
My only real disappointment was that PSP2 was a no show.
How can I fend off wanting to buy a 3DS in favor for a PSP2 when Sony hasn't given me a glimpse of why I should hold out.
I also would've liked to have seen something PS3 from Insomniac, and Tecmo.
Okay, I've rambled on and on and strayed from the topic.
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BikerSaint
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 7:15:48 PM
BTW, Being a non-techie, reading this was mostly "all Greek to me", so the article gave me a serious case of brain-freeze.
But with your background, I know you'll handle it just fine & You'll keep sucking on that oversized "straw of knowledge". LOL
And hopefully these articles will give you that much more ammo against MS.
"so...."Lock & load"!
Inside the Xbox 360, : procedural synthesis and dynamic worlds (Part I)
http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2005/05/xbox360-1.ars
Inside the Xbox 360, Part II: the Xenon CPU
http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2005/06/xbox360-2.ars
And just for an extra case of "s***z & giggles",
Just look how far we've come since the PS 1 days(as this article was written in 2000, just before the PS2 was coming out).....
The PlayStation2 vs. the PC: a system-level comparison of two 3D platforms
http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2000/04/ps2vspc.ars
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Highlander
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 1:06:07 AM
BTW the most interesting thing about the PS2/PC comparison article is that it was written 10 years ago and yet it could be written today as a comparison of the PS3 and PCs. In fact almost the same breakdown of how PS3 games would work was written in 2005/2006 when the PS3 design became more widely known.
I remembering arguing with all and sundry that the PS3 was an evolution in architectural terms of the PS2. Granted the processor is lots of times faster and has a higher clock, but the approach of making an architecture focused on moving streams of data through the system is precisely what the PS3 and Cell BE are designed to do.
I've long said that PS2 developers really should already have had the mindset required for PS3 development, and I still maintain that is the case. The PS2 had a MIPs core with two independently programmable vector units in addition to the Single Instruction Multiple Data (SIMD) design ethos. The PS3 has a single PowerPC core with 9 independently programmable vector units (7 of which are SPEs, and two are the dual issue VMX units in the PowerPC core), the CellBE is specifically designed to be a SIMD powerhouse.
Sony has been very consistent in their approach, I wonder why is is that so many people do not see this?
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kraygen
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 11:01:42 PM
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Rising will be on both consoles, but it will sell less than MGS4. That's my prediction.
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natho86
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 11:31:33 PM
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BikerSaint
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 5:43:33 PM
I forgot to mention in that 360 links post above, that those specs links are for the new 360 SQUAT(I refuse to call it a "slim")
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mehrab2603
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 11:25:00 PM
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natho86
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 11:33:27 PM
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FM23
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 12:26:22 AM
@Ben, Mafia II didn't impress you? Are you going to review Transformers WFC?(Would love your input)
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johnld
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 3:55:53 AM
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SoulController
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 11:29:26 PM
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GuernicaReborn
Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 11:34:09 PM
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Highlander
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 12:39:50 AM
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Lawless SXE
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 12:54:54 AM
Peace.
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Jawknee
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 1:14:38 AM
I'd say thats a dumbing down.
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GuernicaReborn
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 2:50:07 AM
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johnld
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 4:00:11 AM
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Jawknee
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 10:48:48 AM
from the horses mouth.
MGS is a series with humor, deep story telling, deep character developement and unique gameplay. All those things are being taken away from the franchise with this installment. They are callig it a spin off while tryig to fit it in the MGS time line. We have another FFXIII on our hands. Jap devs want more western sales so they tale their unqiue games and turn them into cruddy, bloody action games. It sounding to me nothing more then a hack n slash with non of the Kojima story tellig greatness.
Also this 'cut where you will" feature they are hyping sounds nothing more then Dead Eyeish system but with your sword instead of a gun.
I'll still play the game, though I probay won't be getting it on day one.
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GuernicaReborn
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 12:52:06 PM
Well, I'm gonna give it a chance, you guys obviously don't have to agree with that.
And Jawk, you haven't been approved by a mod yet. I'm guessing you posted a link to a quote about little emphasis on story, right? I don't remember hearing anything about that but I haven't been following MG:Rising news too closely so I very easily could have missed it.
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Jawknee
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 1:13:21 PM
Not saying it wont have one just that it wont be what we are used to with MGS. Good or bad? i don't know i guess, but since Kojima isn't writing or directing the game, i have a feeling bad.
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Snaaaake
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 12:23:52 AM
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Unlike FFXIII which was a main series in the franchise.
And so Ben, you mean they never intended to let you know about the exclusive but they slipped it out instead?
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Jawknee
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 1:16:13 AM
Sounds like its apart of the story arch to me.
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Axe99
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 12:42:02 AM
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Not saying you shouldn't get it, but I'd much rather you went in with low expectations and enjoyed it, rather than listened to the hype and were disappointed with the reality, because the distance between Ninty's hype and reality is comparable to the distance between the Earth and the Moon!
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Lawless SXE
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 12:42:13 AM
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Rising interests me because I like hack 'n' slash titles and I love MGS. However I imagine there is reason, much like yours. I only played Sons of Liberty about two months before MGS4 was released and I have consequently purchased MGS4, subsistence and substance and am on the look-out for a copy of the original. 'twould be so much easier if I had an e-bay account I imagine.
As for FFXII, never played the earlier ones, but the ATB annoys me. Is it turn-based masquerading as real-time, or the other way around? Press X four times, watch the actions, get destroyed as you wait for the bar to fill again, rinse and repeat ad nauseum. I know it'll fill out and get more complex later on, but right now... meh.
E3 is just great. The whole thing. But if I had to say a highlight, it would be the announcement of a release date for GT5, I finally have a concrete reason to get an internet connection, if only to find out if a good friend of mine was lying when skiting up how good he is.
As for your Wii situation, I'm keeping out of it. It doesn't seem worth it to me. A bunch of great Mario games, a hundful of other good to great games and a landfills worth of shovelware, not to mention a hundred and one useless peripherals. I'll stay happy with my PS3, and maybe, just maybe the Move later on this year.
Personal update.
I finally finished Lolita and switch to the Time Ships. I need to get more books next time I'm in the city...
I finish another segment of Once Were Brothers, bringing the page total up to 157-ish, I don't know. Writing it by hand and with all the half pages it makes it difficult to count properly. With that done, I take a sabbatical from it to go back to Winding Paths. (My stories.)
I finished watching the first season of Dead Like Me, and have started on the second.
Got out of Mexico in RDR, wondering how much longer to go. Played about an hour and half of FFXIII, didn't like it a great deal, and will continue playing it in pieces until I finish RDR and Valkyria Chronicles.
Helped Dad make the gate to keep the dog in, 'twas quite fun. And have had a rather nasty head cold (or perhaps something more sinister, my throat is killing me) for the last couple of days. Also, work sucks. That is all.
Peace.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 12:55:31 AM
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Lawless SXE
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 2:02:51 AM
I've got One Hundred years of Solitude on my shelf over there. I've been looking for Love In The Time Of Cholera, Cat's Cradle, War and Peace, The Waste Land, Odyssey, The Divine Comedy, Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep, Paradise Lost and Dorian Grey among others, but I'll take any suggestions whatsoever.
Thanks, I'll make sure to write those down somewhere and keep an eye out for them.
Peace.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 8:50:14 PM
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Lawless SXE
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 2:05:58 AM
Peace.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 10:15:52 AM
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Scarecrow
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 1:53:30 AM
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People need to understand that these guys want a fun game. This is coming from the guy who made God of War and from a guy who made Warhawk (FUN game).
Of course, they also created Twisted Metal so they know what's fun 'bout the real TM experience.
There will be a lot of twisted destruction when the game comes out. Hope to see more of it as the year goes by.
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TEG3SH
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 3:01:35 AM
As for Wiii, I dunno never been a fan of mario ever, Zelda has a good story but the gameplay doesn't entice me . so no Wii for me
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johnld
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 4:05:49 AM
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___________
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 3:09:28 AM
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i was really disappointed by E3 this year, where are all the big blockbuster announcements?
crytek making a 360 exclusive was a shock, cant wait to find more about that.
twisted metal i cant wait for, its about time they brang back the king of car combat.
but besides those E3 gave me nothing.
E3 normally explodes with blockbuster announcements, like last year both sony and M$ had like 5 each.
this year we only got 3 out of the both of them!
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Snaaaake
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 3:22:51 AM
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Make that 1 month earlier XD.
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GuernicaReborn
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 1:05:30 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 8:48:25 PM
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FxTales
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 3:30:07 AM
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johnld
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 3:33:14 AM
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the last zelda game i bought was twilight princess for the gamecube. I love the zelda franchise, in fact, its my top franchise of all time. I'm definitely buying legend of zelda skyward sword on day 1, limited edition? bring it on, i dont care. this is the only game franchise i would buy a wii for but since my sister has one, i dont need to waste money on it.
I usually only buy ps3 games because thats the only system i completely own. my bro owns the 360 and my sister owns the wii. i never buy a game for a system i dont own even if i have unlimited access to one. why? because when my idiot brother sold his wii, my mario galaxy game was still inside of it. and knowing my brother, i'm never getting that back. so even though i want to try out a game for the wii or 360, i'm not going out of my way to buy it with my own money. but for legend of zelda, i'm willing to make a day 1 exception.
by the way, i was trying to find out what that lemon comment was about after kevin butlers monologue and somehow i ended up on a nintendo forum. wow, they really hate kevin butler over there, hahaha. i think it was an official nintendo website forum too. people just cant take a joke.
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sawao_yamanaka
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 7:23:33 AM
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MyWorstNightmar
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 1:00:53 PM
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Jawknee
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 1:42:24 PM
HA!
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johnld
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 4:07:35 PM
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Scarecrow
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 4:10:03 PM
Which I have
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Jawknee
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 4:35:23 PM
Now that i think about it I do remember the Gold being Limited for Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, so i suppose those count as Special.
I still have my NES The Legend of Zelda Gold cartridge. Still works too.
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MyWorstNightmar
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 5:06:32 PM
So is that all you get with a "special edition", a little gold coloring? Blah! I'm surprised they don't make special editions, that are actually...special?
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Clamedeus
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 5:26:37 PM
All packed into one disc, it's pretty neat. I also bought Twilight Princess a couple months ago. And what's funny is that i never liked any of the Zelda game's until i actually had some quality time with them and I'm loving it.
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Scarecrow
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 6:04:45 PM
A lot of you sound like you've never played a Zelda game through and THROUGH
It's like some of you just watch some of it at Gamestop and start bashing it.
To enjoy a Zelda you gotta give it the same respect you give a Final Fantasy
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Clamedeus
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 6:13:36 PM
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Ultimadesires
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 4:00:25 AM
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johnld
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 4:11:20 AM
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JackC8
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 6:59:33 AM
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MyWorstNightmar
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 1:06:58 PM
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Jawknee
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 1:43:59 PM
Here hoping I'm wrong though and Sony surprises us with something to complete with Zelda.
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Mavfan321
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 2:04:15 PM
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Jawknee
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 2:35:32 PM
Which is top notch in my opinion.
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Highlander
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 5:26:32 PM
No offense, but what precisely makes Zelda unique in terms of game play? I mean characters are one thing, but you have basically said that Sony should do a zelda style game in HD. Considering the scale of Uncharted - for example - I can't see what more you want than what there already is? What is it that needs to be done?
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MyWorstNightmar
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 7:58:59 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 8:47:49 PM
...what are you kidding me?
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Highlander
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 9:01:38 PM
If you just want an argument you'll need to look elsewhere. The comment was made "you know what irritates me, sony can come up with amazing games with great stories but why dont they have a game that stands toe to toe with Legend of Zelda."
My question was what about Zelda makes it so unique or different to games like Uncharted that Sony somehow can't come up with it. I don't see it. Sure Zelda is a different story and character set and genre, but the comment was made and I was asking. If you want to take that as being anti-Nintendo, that's fine, but I suspect you need another comment forum for that attitude.
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MyWorstNightmar
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 10:50:38 PM
I dunno. Your comment was strange, and I explained why I thought it was strange. No harm no foul.
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johnld
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 10:55:34 PM
let me be clear by what i meant toe to toe with zelda. it may be a poor choice of words on my part. I wasnt saying that zelda is the best game out there. i just meant that they would make a zelda like game, gameplaywise and of course the zelda type feel to it. i didnt say it was unique at all. i just wanted that zelda type of experience on the ps3. i didnt mean to say that zelda completely wipes the floor out of every game out there. quality wise i know uncharted beats zelda hands down. but for me, theres always room for a zelda game.
I love all the games that sony came out with so far like uncharted series, killzone 2, and metal gear among other things. but the closest i came to that zelda feeling was 3d dot game heroes and that was basically a homage to the old 2d zelda games. i cant really put into words why i love zelda games. all i can say is that i'm definitely buying it. i love the story (granted that its not the best out there)and the gameplay. its just that when i play any zelda game, i feel pretty good. i dont care how old it looks or that its not in HD, i just love playing it. I'm even planning to play the every game in that zelda collection for gamecube, windwaker, and twilight princess back to back. Sure the basic premise is princess is taken, you enter a dungeon, get new item, repeat till the last dungeon, final boss. but that for me is fine. i'd play it and have no problem with it. I will freely admit that Zelda is my #1 franchise of all time but there are a lot of other amazing games out there and some if not most are better than zelda quality. zelda is zelda to me, it doesnt matter how old it is, i'll still play it and have fun.
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Highlander
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 11:44:22 PM
If you want an argument go for it.
As for Zelda, I played Ocarina of Time and wasn't that impressed with it. Granted it was a *long* time ago. However as I remember the game play it was almost like a 3D action platformer and not so much like an RPG. I just don't see or remember anything in a zelda game that is either revolutionary, or different to what we've got now. Granted characters and story are different, but other than that a cartoony action adventure plays very like a cartoony action adventure/platformer such as R&C. You may disagree, but I've yet to hear anything that tells me what it is that anyone thinks Sony should do to somehow emulate Zelda.
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Zorigo
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 6:12:23 AM
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JackC8
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 6:57:01 AM
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I ordered a 500 GB drive for my PS3 this week, so I've been transferring all the data off the old drive - on my 2 GB thumb drive lol. Even though the only stuff left is a few copy-protected game saves, a TV show and maybe a few themes (oh, and the Killzone 2 game install), it's still got around 4-5 GB worth of stuff on it, so I had to order an 8 GB thumb drive to back that stuff up. I'll be waiting excitedly for the mailman to arrive each day this week :)
Been playing Killzone 2 all week. I'm not a huge shooter fan, but it's pretty fun. Excellent combat mechanics and a good variety of environments and situations to keep me entertained.
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Highlander
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 5:24:49 PM
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Jawknee
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 5:37:27 PM
I was going to get a Samsung HDD but people seemed to think it was a piece on Amazon. The 500gb, 5400 rpm Toshiba HDD seemed to be the more favored one. Couldn't really tell why other then reliability from the Amazon forums.
Samsung usually makes solid stuff but i went with the Toshiba instead.
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Highlander
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 8:58:42 PM
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Riku994
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 8:56:55 AM
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XxNoir
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 9:04:55 AM
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TEG3SH
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 4:04:28 PM
The game was awesome, gameplay,story and characters wise, played it over 6 times on PS1 just to get doomtrain :). the only game with Uncharted that I have beating more than once
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Gone
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 11:37:06 AM
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Gone
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 11:45:15 AM
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TEG3SH
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 4:09:00 PM
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eLLeJuss
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 11:45:25 AM
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Jawknee
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 4:36:28 PM
Loved every Final Fantasy I've played, even XII but i think i hate XIII.
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TEG3SH
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 4:46:57 PM
Same here I didn't play it that long as my Ps3 in another continent but I kinda enjoyed what i played, does it rank among the best ,hell no, is it enjoyable hell yeah, it's different than all other ff (didn't play 12 my ps2 died ) .
Jawknee
still giving me the silent treatment .Lmfao
doesn't sure look like silent treatment if u are downvoting everything I say
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Jawknee
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 4:53:25 PM
Hardly giving you the silent treatment when there's no comment to respond too. Silly comments like the one above TEG is the reason people thumb you down. If you don't have anything relevant to the topic at hand to say to me please don't post it.
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TEG3SH
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 5:08:44 PM
P.s. I don't care for the voting system anymore, if i'm not crossing the line (insulting anybody) I know they are just haters.
would u care to elaborate how my comment is silly ???
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TEG3SH
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 4:06:34 PM
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review rundown
we start with the name of the game which is TM then we jump to a complete 10 ..... satisfied :)
its like crack to me
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Scarecrow
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 4:20:31 PM
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If you complain 'bout Zelda's gamepaly you also have to complain 'bout MGS's gameplay, or even Resident Evil.
Funny, the Zelda games introduce more new gameplay tools and strategies than a lot of games out there.
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I believe many here don't even play the Zelda games are just bad-mouthing it from what they see on youtube or any other site.
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Jawknee
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 4:38:30 PM
People who want Zelda to change should also be consistent and welcome change in MGS via Rising.
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TEG3SH
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 4:42:29 PM
I never badmouthed it. As I said before I'm not a big fan of nintendo so I can't Judge them
P.S. I have tried some Mario and zelda games but never truly played any they bore me to hell I'm a Sonic kindda guy
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Alienange
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 5:49:06 PM
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Jawknee
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 5:54:57 PM
Seems to be a much smaller game no?
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Scarecrow
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 5:55:15 PM
It's like neither Ben or Arnold (or John) like Modnation
I know they don't have unlimited income either. But Modnation's a game we all wanted to see a review of...
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TEG3SH
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 6:04:42 PM
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Alienange
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 6:35:03 PM
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ryu
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 9:02:03 PM
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you lied to meeeeee~!!!!!!!!.....
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kraygen
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 9:17:04 PM
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003O6E46S/ref=s9_al_ft_i6?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-6&pf_rd_r=00BEHQ1FB1W0B38MMX7V&pf_rd_t=1401&pf_rd_p=1266691142&pf_rd_i=1000510541
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 9:51:54 PM
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Shams
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 11:57:53 PM
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Snaaaake
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 9:38:57 PM
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Though chances are slim but I'm still hoping for a gameplay footage.
And I'm very interested to Kojima's taboo game, could be something revolutionary.
Some Zone of the Enders 3 footage would be brilliant, since Kojima said it's been put on hold, that means development is already underway and that's a goddamn good news.
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Jawknee
Sunday, June 20, 2010 @ 10:40:48 PM
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CharlesD
Monday, June 21, 2010 @ 12:16:11 AM
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As far E3 goes, well I knew about Twisted Metal but Sweet-tooth coming out on stage in the stylized ice-cream truck not only was surprising but was absolutely bad ass on almost every conceivable level
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Saturday, June 19, 2010 @ 10:05:15 PM
Still, there are always the long periods of zero games that interest me. That's why I've owned 4 Wiis; I keep selling it off as soon as there's nothing to play. I'm afraid I might be selling my current one off...only to buy a 5th one around Christmas.
Super Mario Galaxy 2 is a great game but it's nowhere close to being the greatest game ever.
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