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This Generation's "It's So Good It Hurts"

I must apologize. In looking at the title, one might expect something more than a generic "favorite games of the generation so far" article but in fact, that's exactly what this is. I typically try to be a bit more original and/or thoughtful with the weekly editorial but I dunno...maybe it's the heat.

Well, at the very least, I don't have a generic title. That's something. But anyway, here are my top 5:

5. inFamous

I really ahd to think long and hard over the fifth and final spot in my lineup. It was sort of a toss-up between Sucker Punch's crazy entertaining game, Rockstar's excellent Grand Theft Auto IV (not in the mood for GTAIV haters, so keep it to yourselves, please), and Ubisoft's awesome Assassin's Creed II. The odd part is, I'd say both of the latter two are better overall games in terms of quality but in the end, I had to go with the "funnest;" the one that had this strange, semi-addictive hold on me when I was playing. I certainly didn't expect it, but it happened. It's not perfect but it's the epitome of "fun," in my humble opinion.

4. God of War III

I'm not the biggest fan of hack 'n slashers but this game is so amazing, it's impossible not to love it. As usual, we get a God of War that's so goddamn polished and refined, it's painful...but it's a blissful, "oh my God, this is incredible" sort of pain. From the epic, memorable boss battles to the nigh-on flawless combat, GoWIII is a masterpiece in every sense of the word. I really can't think of anything about this game that can even be considered "average;" the graphics, gameplay, control, presentation, relative depth...it's all just top-notch quality. It begs the question: is it truly one of the greatest franchises of all time? Gotta say yes.

3. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

It has been almost two years since I played it last but that fuzzy memory is still there. People can pick out the holes in the plot all they wish, and I freely admit it needed some professional storyline refinement but even so, it remains a step in the right direction for the industry. Kojima only does greatness. It should be his own personal motto. Upon finishing, the entire experience stayed with me for an extra long time, and that's the mark of what I like to call an "impactful" game. It's not just about the story or the cinematics or the gameplay or the graphics; it's about everything coming together in one unbelievable package.

2. Heavy Rain

Talk about memorable. I saved the best two for last and Quantic Dream's highly fulfilling project definitely gave the #1 game a run for its money. With a beautifully constructed storyline and an undeniably human appeal rarely - if ever - seen in video games, Heavy Rain has successfully branded itself on my heart. For the very first time, I really, actually, truly cared about the characters I controlled, and furthermore, tension on the screen translated to true-blue tension in me. I went through the game five times for the different results and endings, but I almost didn't want to see what happened if I let Madison get sliced up...it just felt wrong. How many games really make you feel this way?

1. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves

This defines "so good it hurts" better than anything. It's the closest I've ever felt to playing an action movie; every last facet of this production just plain shines. From the Hollywood-caliber voice acting to the mind-blowing visuals to the almost perfect control and combat mechanics, Uncharted 2 is one of my favorite games of all time. It represents the pinnacle of what this industry is currently capable of and that's that. Just officially announce the third entry and I'll start getting excited immediately. I'm not even sure Naughty Dog fully grasps what they've managed to produce...

There have been a lot of great games this generation. My other favorites include Killzone 2, Assassin's Creed II, Bioshock 2, Grand Theft Auto IV, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Gears of War 2, Joe Danger, Flower, Lost Odyssey, Resistance 2, Dead Space, Mirror's Edge, Red Dead Redemption, echochrome and Wipeout HD. And of course, more great stuff to come.

7/16/2010 Ben Dutka

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Comments (175 posts)

Luiscosmo2
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 9:39:20 PM
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I didn't really like Infamous in got borin durin the end and when I tried to finish the other side I forced myself to finished it...Once I play Single Player I can rarely play it again straigh away and enjoy it...But GTA IV Is where I could do that I loved GTA IV...

But Yea Good Article Ben. I agree with the games from I-IV

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faraga
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 2:51:46 AM

I agree. I have both inFamous and GTA IV and I've gotta admit that I've had more fun playing GTA IV and with the DLC it just became more awesome. I don't know what haters hate about GTA IV (please explain!), but please don't thumb me down for expressing my opinion.

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Shams
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 5:46:15 AM

I loved GTA4 for the immersion, exploration/collection, the cars, the driving, the story. But I loved inFamous for the action (and the story). It's a simpler experience, but like Ben, I also felt it wins the edge in fun against other games in the genre that certainly were larger in scope and scale.

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Underdog15
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 6:00:45 PM

Don't worry about thumbs down, dude. Half the time they're just bots or non-regulars to the site. Rate your success by the number of thumbs up only.

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Scarecrow
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 10:07:15 PM
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Uncharted 2 is like a game made in heaven

It's still one of those games you go "it's a masterpiece."

It'll be hard for Uncharted 3 to actually be as good and even harder to be better than UC2
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I'd add Demon's Souls to that list, an experience you won't get in any game thus far.

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frostface
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 10:18:14 PM

I obviously type too slow, ya beat me to it with Demon's Souls!

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Shams
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 5:49:13 AM

I've a couple chapters left in MNM of NGS2 (I haven't even touched the Ultimate Ninja Challenges, yet), after which I'm headed straight to Demon's Souls.

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frostface
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 10:17:34 PM
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Very good list, I'd have to stick Demon's Souls in there somewhere but I was glad you stuck Mirrors Edge into the honorable mentions at the end.
In my top five, based on games I get the urge to go back and play over again and again, it'd have to be (in no particular order):

Mirrors Edge
Uncharted 2
Dead Space
Demon's Souls
Killzone 2

Honorable mentions to Dragons Age Origin, Fallout 3, Resistance 1+2, Red Dead Redemption, Battlefield:BC1+2, Resonance of Fate, Nier, Yakuza 3, Infamous and I'm sure there's plenty more I'm forgetting right now.

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BeezleDrop
Monday, July 19, 2010 @ 10:20:25 AM

I completely agree about Mirrors Edge, Frostface, that game is great looking, vibrant, and a fresh take on the First-Person perspective. Definitely underrated in my opinion.

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eLLeJuss
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 10:25:14 PM
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I'd number 1 Hidden Rain cause it was so good. All the others wasn't as memorable as heavy rain IMO

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 10:44:27 PM

Who hid the rain?

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Qubex
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 4:14:53 AM

Rain is basically see-through to some extent :)

Q!

"There Is A Borg Living Amongst Us"

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MyWorstNightmar
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 11:06:51 AM

I think he meant Chubby Rain.

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eLLeJuss
Sunday, July 18, 2010 @ 12:19:07 AM

whoops. Heavy Rain. lol. My brother was reading a comic and it said something "HIDDEN RAIN VILLAGE" and I was looking at it when i was commenting.

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FM23
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 10:58:01 PM

My top 10 this generation
1)Fallout 3
2)Demons Souls
3)Grand Theft Auto 4 (including episodes)
4)Uncharted 2
5)MGS4
6)Batman Arkylm Asylum
7)Bioshock
8)God of War III
9)Killzone 2
10)Red Dead Redemption or Uncharted or Dead Space

Ben, how can you forget about Demons Souls and you guys gave Fallout 3 a 9.6 and you didn't even mention that game. I do like your choices, but too me...Heavy Rain had its fair share of poor voice acting (those damn kids) and God of War III storytelling (not story) was kind of a dissapointment, everything else was top notch. Infamous was a good game, nothing I would lose sleep over. This is just my two cents, not knocking your choices as they all deserve a spot.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 10:59:49 PM

I thought the GOWIII story was a rather poor patchwork and the puzzles were... blah.

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kraygen
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 11:42:18 PM

What was so great about Batman arkham asylum? I just finished that game and I'm sorry but most of the game is just backtracking to get riddler ?'s that you couldn't get until you got the equipment for it.

Is batman that stupid, "Hey I'm in the batcave, I could get everything I need now, but no, let's come back 4 different times because apparently all these bags on my waist are for show."

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 11:42:31 PM

There was very little in the way of poor voice acting in Heavy Rain; in fact, it's the second best set of voice acting in the generation behind Uncharted 2. That much is plain.

I was not the biggest fan of Demon's Souls because I found it to be unbalanced. Not too hard; merely unbalanced. I mentioned it in my review. And I didn't review Fallout 3; it's really not my type of game.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 11:50:17 PM

Fallout 3: Epic exploration, 'nuff said.

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Jawknee
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 12:43:47 AM

Eeeeh, i thought the voice acting in MGS4 was better then Heavy Rain. They sounded out of place sometimes. You can hear them slip up and expose their French accent.

I'd say Uncharted holds the crown for best voice acting with MGS4 in a close second.

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Doosharm
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 12:48:08 AM

I would have to put the voice acting in Batman Arkham Asylum head and shoulders above Heavy Rain and easily on par with Uncharted 2.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 12:57:17 AM

Doosharm: No, only the Joker. Beyond that, they don't quite stack up to Uncharted 2.

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Jawknee
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 1:10:22 AM

I agree with Ben on this one. Batman AA was good for a Saturday morning cartoon. Uncharted was near Hollyweird movie good. Well, when Hollyweird used to be good.

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Lawless SXE
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 1:13:04 AM

You all seem to be forgetting about the voice acting greatness that was Heavenly Sword... And Stephen Fry in LBP was genius. But yeah, you've all got valid points.

Peace.

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FM23
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 2:31:11 AM

@Ben...oh my bad, I thought you reviewed that game. Well I already knew you didn't care for Demons Souls, but honestly, I felt Heavy Rains dialogue was either cliche or too simple and the voice acting during certain scenes could have been better, but I definitely enjoyed the game for what it was. Same goes for MGS4 cheesy dialogue and over the top dramatics, but that game will always be a classic to me. As far a unbalanced dificulty, I got to agree.

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ed_winchester
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 3:08:21 AM

When people talk about amzing voice acting, Valkryia Chronicles was simply amazing, even the squad members that may only make a few appearances were spot on

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Qubex
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 4:16:32 AM

Yes FM23, the kid is awful in Heavy Rain. I haven't played it because of the kid.

Q!

"There Is A Borg Living Amongst Us"

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 10:56:51 AM

Heavenly Sword did indeed have awesome voice acting. It deserves attention.

One thing about Heavy Rain that has gotten blown out of proportion, and that's this supposed "problem" with French accents. It doesn't really make any sense to say, as there is really only ONE character in the entire game who is actually French and actually tries to hide the accent, and that's Ethan. Sam Douglas (Scott) is clearly American, Leon Ockenden (Norman) is English, and the woman for Madison (forget who it is; I only know Jacqui Ainsley did the modeling) is also American. The only French actress is Auriele Bancilhon, who is SUPPOSED to be French in the story; there's no effort to hide the accent. And if you think she sucks, you should watch the extra acting scene provided in the Bonuses.

Considering the fact that most of the game is dialogue, and considering that only rarely do we hear less-than-impressive lines, it's a triumph. People don't quite realize just how MUCH voice acting is required in comparison to any other game in existence, and when most of it is top-notch, that's a win in my book.

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Qubex
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 11:53:07 AM

Yes, Ben, that is true, there is a lot of dialog there, one has to be flexible... it was a ground breaking game anyways, and I will probably get it just for the fact that QD deserves the support...

Q!

"There Is A Borg Living Amongst Us"

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Vivi_Gamer
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 12:24:39 PM

Heavenly Sword did not have good voice acting. I swear the lead V.A. was done by a bloke.

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FM23
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 5:02:40 PM

So Ben, you actually didn't get annoyed by every childs voice in this game. These kids voices were horrible and didn't feel authentic...while I was playing HR my brother kept pointing out how bad their voices sounded. I thought everyone played their part well enough (Madison and Ethan were the best), but the FBI agent and Shelby sounded out of place a few times. This has nothing to do with the voices, but my Dad was over my house and he didn't even know I was playing a game until he figured out the buttons on the screen had something to do with the control in my hand...lmao...anyway no game has perfect voice acting or dialogue, but Uncharted 1/2, Bioshock 1/2, MGS1-4, Rockstar creations (GTA, RDR), Fallout 3, Heavy Rain and a few others come the closest in my book.

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MyWorstNightmar
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 11:17:46 AM

You would change a few, but don't offer what they would be? This is an opinion page, please offer YOUR honorable mentions! =)

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The Stig
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 10:38:47 PM
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Agree with list but come november I think inFamous might get bumped out of the top 5.

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Pandacastro
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 10:39:02 PM
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My top 5 (in any order) :


MGS4
Littlebigplanet
Mass Effect 2
Heavy rain
Uncharted 2

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 10:48:39 PM
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Mostly agree, but MGS4 sits on my shelf still, haven't gotten around to it. Glad to see inFamous there because it didn't get the recognition it deserved, hopefully part 2 will raise a few eyebrows.

I like certain FPS, but I gotta tell ya there's a reason none hit the top 5.

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kraygen
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 11:44:16 PM

Dude, I bought the MGS4 ps3 bundle and had never played a Metal gear, I was thinking I'd play MGS4 whenever I got to it. Didn't have money for hardly any games after buying the system and so I ended up playing it pretty early on.

It is amazing, you should get into and fyi, I hate fps, it's a totally different experience.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 11:49:03 PM

I only played the first MGS, I'll get to it eventually, there's just a lot on my plate and stealth is a little lower on the list. I did begin a game just to take a peek and am still blown away by the way it looked.

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Jawknee
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 12:54:03 AM

Neat thing about MGS4 World is you don't have to be stealthy if you don't want to. You and run and gun on the easier settings. Stealth works best on the harder settings.

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WolfCrimson
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 1:40:25 AM

Hehe, I just had a dream about MGS last night.

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SolidFantasy
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 9:41:42 AM

Let me get this straight!? World? of all people you have never played MGS4?!! The game screams perfection! It's a gem of the PS3 and yet you've never played through it!
Seriously this game is like no other imo and worth your time.

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kraygen
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 12:24:53 PM

@ world

I had never played a MG game until I played MGS4 and to be honest after that I tried to go back and play a couple of the older ones, but couldn't stand the top down view.

Sorry ppl I didn't grow up with it and after 4 top down view sucks.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 2:13:01 PM

Yeah I know it's hard to believe, by way of explanation all I can say is I got my PS3 to play all the great RPGs, and when they didn't come it took me some time to get back into all the other genres. I had been playing only RPGs since late PS2 days. My tastes always fluxed, then before I knew it there were tons of games, I was back to being "hardcore" and MGS4 just had to wait.

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bigrailer19
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 10:56:36 PM
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I havnt played Heavy Rain yet. So take that one out and throw Red Dead in there and thats my list with RDR being at #4, and inFamous at 5.

I do plan on playing Heavy Rain, I know its that good!

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Sancho
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 10:58:21 PM
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Out of your top 5 Ben, GoW 3 is the only one I've yet to play simply because I want to experience the first two in the series. I picked up the GoW Collection recently for $15 new with a $15 off coupon at Kmart, I've just got a serious back log of games to play and some I'm trying to inch out a platinum on. Aside from that I can definitely agree with your list. Fallout 3 was another that I'd have to throw into my top ten. Oh I'd have to have LBP in my top 5 though and maybe knock MGS4 to #6 :P

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FxTales
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 11:00:02 PM
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I'm going to nudge my brother at some stage, I've given him my ps3 to look after while I'm studying and 4/5 of those titles I own and the only reason I don't have all 5 is really only a money thing.

However rather than experiencing them first hand he's hung up on MW2 online. I don't get it.

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Danny007
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 11:05:46 PM
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Great list Ben. All my favorite games/exclusives.

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jlch777
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 11:19:06 PM
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my top 5s:
1)GT5 (It will be the best racing game ever created)
2)Uncharted 2
3)MGS4
4)GOW3
5)Killzone 2

Yes i am a GT series fan!!!

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SmokeyPSD
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 11:26:08 PM
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a great list. Pretty similar to my personal 5 really, though I'd prolly put mgs 2nd and heavy rain 1st, but that's more my personal leanings than anything else, I've been loving the intense more than anything else lately.

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Jawknee
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 11:30:09 PM
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All of these are my favorites among Killzone 2, LittleBigPlanet, Bioshock 2 and Dead Space.

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MyWorstNightmar
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 11:32:42 AM

What about Mushroom Wars? =p

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Jawknee
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 11:41:06 AM

Ha....eh no.

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kraygen
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 11:49:18 PM
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It's so incredibly hard to pick a top 5 games, so many genre's, some are more fun even tho they aren't technically as great as others. Tough, but I'd put mine like this.

1.MGS4
2.Demon's Souls
3.Heavy Rain
4.White Knight Chronicles
5.Infamous

Honestly I'd have been happy with my ps3 purchase if those were the only games I had, I have played each of them at least 3 times and look forward to playing each of them again.

Only reason I chose that particular order is because obviously MGS4, Heavy Rain, and Demon's souls, just have some kind of amazing quality to them, nothing else can compare, even if they aren't in your favorite genre, the quality is unmistakable.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 11:51:35 PM

WKC was super under-appreciated, can't wait for part 2. In fact I still have to go back and do all the Quests online. I just got caught up in all the games once i finished the story. Did you know they give you a white knight figurine in Home if you have a save?

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MyWorstNightmar
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 11:35:15 AM

Want to play WKC quite badly, but ever since they said a spiffed up visual version will be included in WKC2, well, I'm forced to wait.

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kraygen
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 12:28:16 PM

@ World

Yes my White knight statue is proudly displayed in my Home space. If you could manage to platinum white knight, you get a white knight costume to wear in home. I would love that so much, but getting plat on WKC is like digging yourself a grave. It's hard work and it's very daunting.

@ myworstnightmare

It will probably be a while before WKC2 gets here, and the first one is totally worth it, if I didn't have it, I'd have no qualms picking it up even tho it will come with the second one. However you must realize I love this game so much it made my top 5 list.

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Temjin001
Friday, July 16, 2010 @ 11:59:10 PM
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Man, I don't know if I could even create a top 5. It's hard, really really hard for me to even try. This generation has presented so many amazing games I still can't believe it, let alone play them all. Though, with the exception of Heavy Rain, I've managed to play through each of Ben's top picks.

Other great games I've enjoyed consolidated to this year (and alphabetical) include:

Bayonetta: Nothing short of a thrill ride top to bottom, side to side, and through the middle. So bizzare yet so very entertaining. Platinum Games you're on my rising star list.

Darksiders: By an unlikely set of circumstances did I get to play this one. While it isn't exactly pretty on the outside, it really is a solid adventure and has a surprisingly robust combat system. A real keeper. I look forward to future installments. (And hey, it's a multi-plat that edges out it's 360 partner, too)

Dead or Alive 4: Several years old and it still offers me a lot of great online matches. It also has ninjas, lots of ninjas.

Forza 3: I've really missed GT racing. While the king of the genre by Polyphony prepares to deliver it's knockout punch I've managed to get a real good GT racing itch scratched with Forza. I now have respect for Turn 10. An awesome assortment of varied tracks, gorgeous cars, interesting and time saving options like "rewind" and a very fluid feel, Forza 3 has milked many hours from me.

God of War 3: Oh man, oh man! falls over from desk thinking about it.... see Ben's description of the game because I can't without foaming from the mouth. Except Hera, she was crappy, and also that big one-eyed ugly dude's hair in the cave.

Ratchet Crack in Time: Great game. Thoroughly polished and the worst part was that it had to end what seemed like too soon. Maybe it was just too good.

Tekken 6: Always been a hardcore Tekken gamer at heart, but T6 left me neither overwhelmed or underwhelmed... just whelmed..
I still experience some of the best gaming moments online with this title. And thank you Namco for resolving a lot of the lag issues. Next time though, please put that bandwidth sapping motion-blur processing onto SPU's so we don't have to tolerate sub-HD res.

ANd for those who've followed along this far..

I'm currently working on Mass Effect. Bioware's stuff has traditionally warded me away with their trademark brand of lengthy conversational inquiring (it's the twitch-gamer in me), but Mass Effect is truly something special. A unique and engaging saga. Sleek and attractive art design. An Unreal engine powered game that doesn't look like one, and a top-notch presentation. Combat action is rough. It's combat alone wouldn't pass for a "good game" by todays standards. Be warned, but none-the-less, any self-respecting gamer owes it to themselves to give a shot.

FF8: Slowly, but surely Squall has just carried Riona across Fisherman's bridge thing.

Most disappointing. Well when I got Forza 3 it came with ODST.
ODST was a yawn-a-thon last year and it's still a yawn-a-thon this year, with extra helpings of "what were they thinking?"
I like Halo. I do, and Reach shows real promise, but MS will send the series straight down the tubes if they prioritize making a buck over making a great game.



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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 12:03:27 AM
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Okay that was fun Ben, now how about the top 5 RPGs?

5. Oblivion
4. Dragon Age: Origins
3. WKC
2. Fallout 3
1. Star Ocean TLH

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 12:57:45 AM

For me, Just Dragon Age: Origins, Lost Odyssey, and Final Fantasy XIII.

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bigrailer19
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 1:06:56 AM

World- my list is flipped compared to yours lol. Oblivion to me was unbelievable. I loved it. Then Dragon age, then fallout 3.

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Jawknee
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 1:11:50 AM

I have yet to complete an RPG this gen. (>.<)

Got close with Valkyrie Profile Lenneth. But i got didn't grind enough and got stuck in a temple.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 1:39:53 AM

Ya wanna know what's sad, when I thought about that short list (not long but still) FFXIII didn't even jump into my head. I guess I can't even think of it as an RPG no matter how it was classified.

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bigrailer19
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 12:00:02 PM

I'm not as big of a FF fan as most around here. So when I can pick it up and say eh' it didnt reach my expectations as to where I stand with the franchise, thats bad news.

I really wanted a FF I couldn't put down, I thought we were getting it. Again I'm not the biggest FF fan, but the series is great, its too bad I couldn't experience something to put it over the top. I just couldn't get into it.

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kraygen
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 12:34:26 PM

I haven't played star ocean (any of them yet), so it wouldn't be on my list of top 5 rpgs. So here's mine.

1. Demon's souls
2. WKC
3. fallout 3
4. Dragon age
5. Valkyria chronicles

When it comes to oblivion I was a little disappointed by the main story, it seemed like a sidequest as far as the length of it. If you just play the main quest you can beat it under 8 hours easily, thats kinda sad.

I know oblivion isn't really meant to be played that way, but it was just a disappointing story for me, some of the sidequests that were added later were actually more interesting and longer than the main story.

I liked the game a lot, but I just couldn't enjoy it as much as others, especially with the vampire glitch on the goty edition.

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bigrailer19
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 1:21:41 PM

The vampire glitch did suck. But the main story for me was actually compelling. Maybe it is short but the time you spend in the game regardless makes up for that. Ive got over 200 hours with two different characters in that game. Again the story may have been short, but it had its depth too it, and worked very well with the sidequests. Awesome game in my book!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 2:18:42 PM

Yeah for the life of me I can't figure why Bethesda couldn't make a tiny patch to fix that glitch (which plagued me for a long time). For me, games like Oblivion and Fallout 3 are never about the main quest (which is always weak) but the exploration of a huge world full of interesting stuff and quests and atmosphere. Still I hope that the world in the next Elder Scrolls is a little more alive.

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kraygen
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 11:18:51 PM

I know exactly why they couldn't make the patch to fix it. I emailed them and called them repeatedly and when I finally got a response this is what they said,

"We know about the glitch, but there are no plans for any update, for any version of oblivion. The game can be successfully completed without finishing this particular quest. "

Exact quote.

Well to that I would like to tell bethesda, screw you too, thanks for supporting your customers.

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BikerSaint
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 1:02:05 AM
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Ben,
Well, I've only played two of those so far,

I'm playing inFamous right now & loving it.
And I'm zonkers about getting those chards, they're so friggiing crack-adling to me.

I also played MGS4 & I was loving it.
Well, that was up until my fight with Vamp. Seem I'm stuck & can't defeat the punk.
I don't know how many times I've gotten his sorry a$$ down, & then tried to needle him in the allotted time, but for some reason it never, ever, even shows a needle in my hand.

I've even gone backward & redid chapter 3 and all of 4 all the way back to the fight itself, just to see if somehow I missed having to find &/or collect hidden needles anywhere, but no such luck.
Damned if I know how to vanquish goth-boy.
This is frustrating me cause I NEED to see & savor how the game even ends & I've been itching to complete it.

Anyways, I'll have to take your word on the other 3 cause I haven't had the chance to play them yet, but I know they'll be great too.

As for my own tastes, there's two other games I loved above ALL others that I've ever played, & I've spent close to 200 total hours on(so far).
So for myself, both of them, are definitely worthy at the very least, of my honorable mention......

FarCry2

The Saboteur


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WolfCrimson
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 1:43:23 AM

The needle icon appears if you have the Syringe equipped in your Item window, and when you're CQC holding Vamp. You can CQC hold him only when you've depleted his HP or Psyche gauge completely. When you do that, get ready for the epic scene that follows.

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kraygen
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 12:36:25 PM

saboteur is uber fun, and yes must equip the syringe before the battle.

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Jawknee
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 1:42:01 PM

You can equip the syringe at any point in the battle. You just have to have it equipped when you grab him.

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kraygen
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 11:19:48 PM

oops, yeah that's true, I just had it in my quick pick so I wouldn't have to try and go into my inventory to get it in the middle of the battle.

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Lawless SXE
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 1:29:17 AM
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A top five list? I just can't do it... I can't find it in me to disclude some, or even begin to order them... I'll do my best.

5) Valkyria Chronicles: It's probably only here because it is my current poison, but everything about it is just brilliant. So easy and intuitive, so hard and frustrating, but always satisfying. (Review incoming when I get it finished)

4) LittleBigPlanet: Never have I played a game that is so much fun. Honestly, smiles all around, and the creation suite, although a right pain in the backside a lot of the time was brilliant.

3) Infamous: Again, just unbelievably fun. And the story was well done, particularly the ending. I need to go back and re-platinum it.

2) MGS4: I'm itching to get back to this piece of brilliance. First though I must get a copy of the original. I've got 2 and 3, and Peace Walker will be incoming next month. This fourth game though had everything that I had hoped and didn't let me down at all.

1) Uncharted 2: What else could it be? Simply the best game that I have played to date. From the beautiful graphics and the near flawless gameplay mechanics to the paced-out story and characters a real ride from start to finish. My only desire for the third would be a mall tupe environment with a bunch of NPCs and enemies, and you have to escape to the roof to catch a helicopter.

Honourable mentions include GoW3, Heavy Rain, Ratchet and Clank, Resistance, Killzone 2 and Dead Space.

@ Ben, whatever happened to the idea of doing the best games of each month, or did I simply miss June?

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BikerSaint
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 10:21:08 PM

Thanks for all the informational help for me on MGS4, but with all those things you've mentioned, I've already done them over & over again.

I've gotten Vamps health bar down to ziltch Then I took him down
but when I got to actually needle him, and even though it shows that I have the needle, it doesn't do anything to Vamp, & it just never works on him.

The one thing I HAVE NOTICED, is that the needle icon has the same long red bar across it as those gun upgrades that you haven't acquired/bought from Dreben yet, so that's why I kept going backward & re-doing chapter 3 & 4 to see if I needed to pick up a full hidden needle somewhere, or check Dreben's for any help with it.

BTW, I've also re-read the manual dozens of times, but nowhere did I find that it actually states anything about that red bar across that needle icon(just says it for the guns & their upgrades).

Plus I wound up reading every walk-through I could find to see if there was some additional trick I wasn't catching on to, but none were found.

I even got my Gamestop guys to let me borrow the official MGS4 strategy guide for the night & I photo-copied the whole 4 pages surrounding the whole Vamp fight.
I studied the guide & walkthroughs & did everything they said to do, and I still can't make that needle juice Vamp into a stupor.

So for now, I've got to believe it all boils down to that red bar that's going across my needle icon.
But I don't know how to eliminate that damned bar. I even checked to see if I could buy or upgrade my needle icon, to no avail, cause after every single thing I tried, the freaking red bar is still there.


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Lawless SXE
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 10:42:11 PM

Replied to the wrong person, but, are you sure that you're using the right CQC attack? That was my problem, I kept stuffing up which button I was pressing.

The needle you get from Naomi, I think, and there is no need to upgrade it at all.

Peace.

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Jawknee
Sunday, July 18, 2010 @ 12:30:04 PM

Biker when you have the needle equipped make sure your don't have any long arms equipped. Like a rifle or a machine gun. You can only use CQC compatible weapons like a pistol or a knife when grabbing someone.

Keep working at it. You'll figure it out. Not sure why that red bar is there. I'd have to see what your game looks like to really figure it out.

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Ultimate_Balla
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 2:07:50 AM
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The final battle in MGS 4!!!

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BikerSaint
Sunday, July 18, 2010 @ 8:38:47 PM

Jawknee,
Thanks guy!

If what you just said is the case, then I think you just might have given me the solution, because if I remember right I think I have mostly all long rifles or machine guns in my stock right now, instead of just CQC weapons.

And that's probably why I'm also getting the red bar across my needle icon too.

Anyway, I'll go back & change it up, your way once I'm done with inFamous. And once I've got it working right, I'll relay what I had to do in case someone else goes through this same frigging scenario too.


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Jawknee
Sunday, July 18, 2010 @ 10:39:56 PM

Yea if thats the case, just unequipped your rifle or machine gun. You have to actually grab Vamp like you would if you were going to choke some one out while the needle is equipped. At that point you should be able to stick him with it.

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___________
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 2:37:15 AM
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move 5 to 3, replace 4 with R&C ACIT and for once id agree with ya.
yea, i know, i know theres a first time for everything!

the only list GOW3 is going to end up in the top 4 of is the generations most overrated, or the generations most disappointing games!
oh, how i expected so, so much from it, and how i got so, so little :(

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Temjin001
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 11:32:38 AM

How in blazes did you get so little?

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Jawknee
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 11:39:25 AM

He bases his enthusiasm for games on how much everyone else likes or dislikes it. We all loved God of War III so he must hate it. Pretty much how it goes with this guy.

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sawao_yamanaka
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 12:37:02 PM

Lol I agree with you on that jawknee. I'm surprised he even has any games with all the returning and exchanging he does.

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Underdog15
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 6:03:46 PM

I'm not surprised, and so far, there isn't a first for anything because you didn't agree...

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Gordo
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 2:47:22 AM
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The gamer is definately the winner this generation. Something for everyone.

Looking up at the games in my collection, my personal favourites are:

1. Uncharted 2
2. Heavy Rain
3. God of War III
4. Demon's Souls
5. Killzone 2

Adding Valkyria Chronicles, Metal Gear Solid 4, Infamous and GT5 to the PS3 exclusives list.

Phenominal AAA quality. No wonder my biggest problem in life is not the quality of the games but the quantity of the time that I have to play.

Oh to be a student again! This work, wife, kids is definately a drain on the valuable playing time! (not that I'd have it any other way...)

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faraga
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 3:05:15 AM
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If everyone is going to give their top 5's, I might as well too.

5: COD Modern Warfare 2 (Even though I hate this game, I can't stop playing it.)
4: Ghostbusters The Video Game
3: Call of Duty 4
2: Uncharted 2
1: GTA IV

This is my top five and I'm sure many of you will not agree with me, since it appears to be cool to hate the COD series and GTA IV, neither is Ghostbusters very popular, but I can't deny I had a lot of fun playing it.

Other games I really like in my collection are inFamous, RDR (the ending really disappointed me, so did the multiplayer so far as I played it), Midnight Club: LA, Dirt 1 (bought it because it was just 20 euros and it's a lot of fun to play with the G25).
I have both Motorstorm games, but I like the first one better, as I prefer its physics.

Other games in my collection are BAJA: Edge of Control, which really disappointed me and EyeCreate, which isn't really a game.

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faraga
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 3:27:42 AM

Oh, I forgot Burnout Paradise (which I have on my HDD, so it's easily overlooked). It's a great game, I've got Platinum for it and got the Diamond P12 (car awarded for completing all 500 MP challenges).

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Temjin001
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 11:47:19 AM

Jeesh, I'm glad someone remembered CoD MW2. That was one I played this year that I forgot to mention.

Infinity Ward really made a big impact this gen. They effectively stalled, if not derailed the stream of WW2 FPS games and managed to topple MS's very own Halo in sales and popularity.
The original MW introduced us gamers to top notch animation, slick 60fps combat, and some of the most intense firefights ever seen. One just needs to remember how insane the "War Dog" level was the first time through to be reminded as to how chaotic the combat could get.

Granted, I know a lot of folks around this site like to dog on CoD, probably due to it's epidemic like trance it has with the competitive shooter fans out there. But hey, it's America! We have a military with a whole lot of guys who like guns. Let them have their fun and realize this kind of stuff is part of our culture.

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Shams
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 3:09:06 PM

But that is not the way of the Ninja! Unless you're fighting Werewolves. Then, it's ok to use a howling cannon.

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Temjin001
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 7:40:57 PM

@Shams,

*ahem* Yes, yes indeed

*forgets that other members of secret ninja clan may be observing my statements*

It's purely for recreational purposes

¬_¬

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Shams
Sunday, July 18, 2010 @ 9:54:11 AM

Lol!

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Snaaaake
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 3:24:16 AM
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1. ACII
2. UC2
3. MGS4
4. Bayonetta
5. KZ2

UC2 and MGS4 are the games with everything polished and perfect, gameplay, sound and graphic.

Bayonetta offers one of the most intense gameplay ever.

I'm not a big fan of FPS but Killzone 2 arguably the best FPS yet.

But the best gaming experience I ever had is with ACII.
Never played anything like it, the game was almost flawless.

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Qubex
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 4:21:59 AM

Looking at getting ACIII... it would have reached perfection by then... I don't own the others, but I will get this one...

Q!

"There Is A Borg Living Amongst Us"

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bigrailer19
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 1:36:25 PM

I like you list, and although I disagree about ac2 being almost flawless, i respect it cus it was a good game.

The thing that I dont like about the AC games is both had trouble story telling to me. They take forever to get into, but I am glad in 2 we spent more time as Ezio rather than flashing back to miles just to walk him to his room in the first.

I did get bored with AC it took me 2 years to finally finish it, I only finished it cus i got AC2, which I also ended up taking a break from. I finally finished it and I'm glad I did, its a great game. The tedious stuff was minimized, and the story played out a little better.

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Jawknee
Sunday, July 18, 2010 @ 12:32:29 PM

They still look great to me. The only thing i noticed is some of the shadows are a bit jaggy but other then that the game still looks great. Character models are some of the best I've seen.

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kevyd09
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 3:39:02 AM
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i cant give a top 5 list but this generation has been brilliant!! these days i want to finish a game before i move on to another but in the last generation i would have got a game, played it for a few days then it would have gathered dust because something wasnt there that would make me wanna finish the game, except for the grand theft auto games!! so im a happy gamer these days altho my fiance isnt to happy lol

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Mavfan321
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 4:04:40 AM
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My list for this gen:

1.(Super)Street Fighter 4: This may seem like an odd choice but in a generation of multiplayer dominated games I can't help but feel that this game does it in a way I loved it most. Because as my avatar can attest I have been a SF fan for a long time. That said, nothing from my second choice which is basically also number 1 in my heart.

2. MGS4 Hands down my favorite experience this gen as someone who basically grew up on MGS (MGS4 is my firefox skin) I can't help but feel an immense love for this series and especially it's climax(?)

3. Uncharted 2, which is self explanatory in every way, if I had as much attachment from childhood it could easily be at number 1. I also feel this is overall the best looking game on consoles hands down, not even GOW 3 can touch this visually.

4. Fallout 3, I'm a sucker for exploration and Fallout 3 gives you those options, as well as a sense of immersion and depth that should be applauded for years to come. It may not be the prettiest game, and at times it would even have some glitching, but this is a game that forces you to ignore the flaws.

5. Little Big Planet, possibly the game I spent the least amount of time with on this list, but the game I feel truly shows most what the future can hold and for this reason it's not only one of the most important PS3 games it's one of the most important of this generation. User created content is not a new idea, nor is platforming, but LBP happens to combine ideas of the past, with new ones to create an experience that is integral I feel to what gaming can become, an ever evolving community.

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Scarecrow
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 10:36:22 AM

SSFIV got a really good score on psxe

So nothing to be ashamed of

It's hands down the best fighter this whole decade, and that's saying a lot.

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Qubex
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 4:20:51 AM
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A pretty good list there Ben, my current top 5 would be (of which I own);

1] Killzone 2
2] Uncharted 2
3] Battlefield Company 2
4] Trine
5] Super Stardust HD

MGS4, Heavy Rain and GoWIII are on my shopping list, but I am waiting for prices to drop further. Will probably get them next year sometime. I won't wait on KZ3 or GT5 though, i will probably get those as day 1 purchases.

Q!

"There Is A Borg Living Amongst Us"

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Jawknee
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 10:27:20 AM

Dude, you can get MGS4 for less then $20 new on Amazon. It's well worth the 20. It's worth the $60 i paid for it.

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Qubex
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 11:54:08 AM

You are right, I will see if I can get it sooner Jawknee...

Q!

"There Is A Borg Living Amongst Us"

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Jawknee
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 12:03:42 PM

Oh man, your in for a treat. Still my favorite game this generation i think.

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nogoat23
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 12:34:03 PM

High five for Trine.

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Mavfan321
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 2:48:08 PM

MGS4 is pretty cheap nowadays I'd pick it up asap. Honestly in my opinion it is a must own PS3 game.

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Vivi_Gamer
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 4:30:15 AM
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For me its


V. Lost Odyssey:
The last 'old-school' Had me hooked and then to eventual see a world map!

IV. Siren Blood Curse:
This game came as a suprise to me, it's by far the best survival horror game i have played this gen (this or Dead Space).

III. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots:
What can i say, a fitting ending to what is proably the best ecxulsive series the playstation has.

II. Final Fantasy XIII:
I know many hated it, but to me this was so, so FRESH! it drawed me in 100% and would not let me go, seriously 2 months of solid play to get the platinum trophy. loved every minute of it though.

I. Heavy Rain:
Quite remarkable, i loved Farenheit for the PS2, but this was something else, never before had i seen such realism in a game. I'm just so glad i had no spoilers shouted at me before.

All the above are perfect examples to why i still play games.

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sawao_yamanaka
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 12:42:57 PM

Siren is an amazing game. Scary as hell too when played full volume and lights off. I think the reason I liked it was the fact that the original team silent worked on it. This is what a current gen silent hill should be like.

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Vivi_Gamer
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 1:13:59 PM

Fully agree, Silent Hill Homecoming was just embarracing. I have never played Siren 1 or 2, would you recommend them?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 5:57:33 PM

I'm playing Homecoming right now, it's nothing groundbreaking and the graphics are awful but I still find the review here to be accurate. It does some things effectively and has some intense moments. Nothing like Dead Space, but I do prefer earth based horror when I can get it.

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sawao_yamanaka
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 10:12:26 PM

I would definitely recommend them if you can find them. Its pretty hard to find the 1st one nowadays. Yea homecoming wasn't anything to write home about but its not as bad but i do still prefer Siren. Wonder when they are gonna make a Siren game?

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FullmetalX10
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 5:47:26 AM
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*sigh*
I hate making top 5's, or tens or any list grading the different stuff I played or watched.
Especially with games this is hard, since there are so many I liked and looking at my collection I'm just glad this editorial wasn't top five games of all time -_-

#5: Little Big Planet.
Though I wasn't very into the creating thing, I did make some levels, never finished one, and thus never published one. Still the game is so much fun, especially since you can go platforming with 4 people, usually ending up with lots of bitch-slaps. Anyway, hooray for acing all level!!!

#4: Ratchet And Clank: A Crack In Time (also Tools of Destruction, it's ok, since they're a saga o.O).
I always liked the Ratchet And Clank saga, ever since the PS2 I've been collecting golden(and platinum) bolts, only so I can check my stats and see that I have them all, oh the great time spent on exploring every corner of every world, definitely a recommendation to anyone who is up for some awesome platforming action.

#3: God of War 3.
Kratos' body is probably one of the most detailed bodies in a game I've seen this far, now I would say best looking, but compared to Chloe, come on...
Yeah, this game combines awesome fighting, crazy gore, good puzzling(I loved the M.C Escher like Hera garden puzzle) and of course awesome visuals.
How I hated those challenges of Olympus, still I completed them all, hooray for completing all challenges of Olympus!!!

#2: Demon's Souls.
Now, I haven't finished this one yet, still, what I've played was so friggin' fun. This is one of the most addictive games I've ever played, together with Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 of course and the number one in my list, also the first game of that serie, but before we go there,
Hooray for beating my tenth official boss (eleven if you include the red dragon)!!!

#1: Uncharted 2.
You guessed it, in fact you probably knew it before you started reading, but it really is that good.
Great graphics, awesome story, sick good characters, insane cool atmosphere, thinking about it, I'm going to play through it again now.
Hooray for Platinums!!!

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FullmetalX10
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 5:57:45 AM

PS: I probably would've put Heavy Rain and MGS4 in there, but I haven't played em yet, and this list took me long enough to think up, so nvm...

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mehrab2603
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 6:40:56 AM
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i'm a bit surprised that ac2 didn't make that list.maybe because its multiplat

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Jawknee
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 10:02:41 AM

Or maybe because it just isn't as good as the 5 on his list. He did give it a mention at the bottom. Don't know if you bothered to even read the article.

Nice try though.

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Shams
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 7:54:43 AM
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I still have to play Demon's Souls to give an honest Top 5.

LittleBigPlanet did make it because of it being most classical, revolutionary, artistic and fun all at the same time. When I get LBP2, I will not trade in LBP1. Mario got a kick in the sack. And maybe even a Ratchet.

My sentiments about Heavy Rain are identical to Ben's. The most emotional and tense experience (perhaps in the history of gaming). However, for me, it was too emotionally-taxing for a 2nd playthrough! So I couldn't put in my personal top 5, but that takes nothing away from that game. It isn't my favorite game, but is certainly one of my most memorable ones of all time.

GOW3 was simply engulfing and mesmerizing... Graphically, musically, and theatrically. As a fan of the hack'n slash, I still prefer the adrenaline rush, the depth of gameplay, the challenge, and the replayability of NGS2, but for the first playthrough, GOW3 squashes the competition.

InFamous made it to my Top 5 most certainly...Possibly even my top 3. It's my favorite open-world game, and while not as epic in scale, scope and variety as GTA4, it was oddly more addictive. InFamous is the very definition of a sleeper-hit. InFamous 2 is currently my most eagerly, anticipated game (winning over Killzone 3, and maybe not over Uncharted 3, but honestly, that gem is a ways off in the future methinks).

U2 is definitely in my top 2. It even won my heart over games of my personal favorite genres (racing and hack'n-slash/beat'um-up action adventure). Everything this game did, it nailed. Beautiful to both the eyes, the ears (and even to the heart!), I can't sing enough praises for this game, both as an achievement and as satisfying product. It took on MGS4, and won (thanks to the tighter action and, what may seem as an unfair comparison, a less over-whelming story due to not having to wrap up the biggest chronicles of story-telling in gaming history)! I'll tell you this much, if Uncharted in the next generation adds an open-world, and vehicles a la GTA, or GTA gets the visuals, the tight action, and splendid production-values of Uncharted, that game will be my favorite game of all time! InFamous 2 seems it might come awfully close to that target, if not attain it, though without driving. Currently, U2 has the highest honor.

Deadspace did not make my top 5, but it made my top 10 for sure. As a person who never played a legitimate horror-survival game, I hadn't even played RE4! But perhaps, i'm glad I didn't, because for my first experience of the genre, it brought the scares in the most graphical and intense way. Awesome job Visceral Studios. Deadspace 2 will be a sure purchase, and thanks to you, I'm a fan of the genre, and have a renewed trust in EA.

Portal. My favorite puzzle game. It revolutionalized two genres simultaneously (first person and platformers). If it did not make my top 5, it most definitely made my top 7. Oh yeah, sorry for the spoiler but the cake isn't a lie. "Aperature Science" is the best game-ending theme song of all time.

While Resistance 1 and 2, Ratchet & Clank: Future Tools of Destruction, Quest for Booty, and A Crack in Time did not make my top 5, Insomniac did make it as my favorite studio. Why? They released 4 AAA titles within 4 years! Sure, they're officially 3rd party now, but like R*, their work is first-rate.

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Shams
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 8:17:24 AM

Oh yeah, I have to give an honorable mention to Wipeout HD/Fury. Although I haven't played Burnout:Paradise, Wipeout HD is my favorite fix for speed, adrenaline, online excitement. Wipeout will always remain synonymous with Sony, as Wipeout is what introduced me to Sony. And it is definitely the best and the fullest offering on the PSN, being better than most retail racers. The MotoStorms are terrific pick-up and play fun, so although I'm very sad about Studio Liverpool's closing, but I'm happy out of all the studios they could've been assimilated by, it was with Evolution Studios.

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Shams
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 2:23:47 PM

Ok, tentative personal top 5 list:

1. Uncharted 2
2. LittleBigPlanet
3. inFamous
4. Wipeout HD/Fury
5. Ratchet & Clank: FTOD & ACIT

Honorable mentions: Grand Theft Auto 4, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, Portal, Ratchet & Clank:FTOD & ACIT, Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, GOW3, Dead Space, Motor Storm: Pacific Rift, ModNation Racers, AC2.

Again, this is a tentative list. I still have yet to play Demon's Souls.

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Shams
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 2:52:43 PM

Oops, I left R&C both as number 5 and an honorable mention...that's because I left it there by accident after changing my mind over GTA4, NGS2, and the R&C's... Resistance 1 & 2, Uncharted 1, and Ninja Gaiden Sigma 1 are also worth honorable mentions.

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sobleck
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 8:13:38 AM
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*Possible Spoiler ahead* dunno about you guys but god of war: chains of olympus definitley evoked some emotion during the scene with kratos and his daughter.I had to pause, i could feel his pain, i almost did not want to continue.

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Shams
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 8:18:40 AM

Agreed. The best story in the franchise, and amazing is that it was experienced hand-held.

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Jawknee
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 1:56:40 PM

PSP has some of the best games this gen.

Peace Walker and Chains of Olympus FTW!

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Shams
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 2:25:17 PM

It's nuts, but it's true.

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mackid1993
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 8:46:32 AM
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Mine would probably go.

5. CoD4
4. God of War 3
3. Uncharted 2
2. MGS: Peace Walker
1. MGS4

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Jawknee
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 10:03:21 AM

Doh! I would have to put Peace Walker as my number two as well but i was thinking only PS3 games.

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RadioHeader
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 8:56:46 AM
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All joint-first:

GT5P, Uncharted/UC2, LBP, MNR, GT5P, Dead Space, KZ2, Resistance/R2, GT5P, GoW 1,2&3, Demon's Souls, GT5P, inFamous.

PSN games:

GT5P, Burn Zombie Burn, Joe Danger and GT5P.

Racing games:

GT5P, MNR, GT5P and GT5P.

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SvenMD
Sunday, July 18, 2010 @ 8:50:29 PM

That's alot of acronyms.

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0_o
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 9:35:22 AM
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ahd or had? I think there is a typo!

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Alienange
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 9:38:52 AM
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If Red Dead Redemption doesn't win GotY I'd be very surprised. It has completely taken over my gaming time and I love it.

Liars dice anyone?

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kraygen
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 12:42:33 PM

Nope, no liar's dice, because you can't do it in MP free roam until the add on comes out and then you have to pay another $10 for it.

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bigrailer19
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 1:38:28 PM

Dude, you dont just pay $10 for that! You get tons of other stuff. Its a great game just get over that you have to pay for it. It takes money to make money. They are spending time and money on taking RDR further, when they don't even have to. we are getting 4 packs by the end of the year. Thats a lot of work!

I will play Liars Dice with you Alienange when that time comes!

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Jawknee
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 1:54:54 PM

I think the point Kraygen is making is these features should have been included. R* sold this free roam idea like it was the second coming. Its not. There's nothing to do in there short of terrorizing other players and going to the gang hide outs.

A lot of this stuff they are selling to us should have come with the game. Some of the new DLC packs seem interesting but for the most part they are a rip off.

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bigrailer19
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 7:19:08 PM

Thats what you guys always say about DLC, It should have been included. Even if dlc came about 2 years after the game, I'm sure someone would say it should have been included. Thats just dumb.

I'm a huge fan of the game, I loved the game, I don't think they are a rip off. Some stuff I do agree should have been there like more hideouts, and the co-op they just released, that was free by the way. Other than that we are getting completely new gameplay.

Regardless you have your thoughts bout it, I have mine, but bottom line, whats being done is being done. Do you wanna be happy at least R* is doing something to further the experience or complain that they are charging us for it?

I would hate to be a developer this day and age honestly. They get so much bull from spoiled a** people about the game THEY created, the idea that they brought to life for US! Developing is hard work, and takes lots of money. We should be thankful always, 5 years ago we didnt have the luxury of patches or DLC! When a game was done, the game was done!

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Alienange
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 9:13:36 PM

More ignorance from Jawknee? Isn't there a game bashing site you can visit?

If you don't know what to do in Free Roam, don't come around here spewing nonsense about what was claimed by Rockstar. Rockstar said Free Roam would be an open world multiplayer game lobby. They delivered on that promise and then some. Try taking a look at the challenges. The Free Roam is near identical to the fantastic multiplayer in Burnout Paradise.

"Should have come with the game" is getting old fast. As if including multiplayer Liars Dice with the original game would have somehow changed your criticisms.

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bigrailer19
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 11:29:47 PM

Alienange makes good points too. R* did deliver on their promise as to what the free roam would be. It's more of a lobby than say an open world like idk, WOW I guess (best I could come up with as far as MP goes). But despite that, its a fun atmosphere to meet up with friends!

I just don't get why people take evrything for granted. As I said 5 years ago we looked back at games and regardless of how good they were sometimes, glitches happened, or we look at it and say it would be cool if this was added.

Now days that stuff can happen and when it does people expect it to be handed out! I just don't understand that. Its being spoiled. I look back at the article Ben wrote about PS3 gamers being spoiled or not. I can honestly say now, we are spoiled way too much and it obviously gets to people.

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Jawknee
Sunday, July 18, 2010 @ 10:41:47 AM

Actually thats NOT what is say about all or most DLC. Some i have found to be worth it and some not. This new stuff R* is selling should have come with the game(some of it anyway) They over advertised the free roam aspect of the game and that cant be denied. As for your question, no im not happy they are trying to "further the experience." They are nickel and diming people and if you cant see that then your just another one of these consumers who gets taken to the cleaners because he was suckered into paying extra for something that was most likely going to be apart of the overall package to be begin with but stripped because they new they could sell it separate.

Alienage, give it a rest. You've mentioned you were married so i assume your an adult. Try making an argument like one and not some petulant child. I love how you resort to name calling every time you disagree and act like some one just ran over your dog. Just goes to show how weak your arguments are.

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Alienange
Sunday, July 18, 2010 @ 11:46:00 AM

I'm not sure where you see name calling in my post.

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LittleBigMidget
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 11:31:42 AM
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Final Fantasy XIII as one of your top RPGs this gen, Ben? RLY? I guess we all have our likes and dislikes >_>

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BigBoss4ever
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 11:40:14 AM
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My Top Ten Action (order matters not)

1. GOW3
2. MGS4
3. Heavy Rain
4. inFamous
5. Dante's Inferno
6. DMC4
7. Uncharted 2
8. AC2
9. Batman Arkham Asylum
10.Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2

Top Five RPG:

1. Lost Odyssey
2. Demon's Soul
3. FF13
4. WKC
5. Resonance of Fate

Top 5 on my wanting list:

1. The Last Guardian
2. Castlevania: Lords Shadow
3. FF Versus 13
4. FF14
5. MGS Raiden


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BigBoss4ever
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 11:51:04 AM

p.s. Bayonetta also belongs to my top action lists.

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Shams
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 1:40:56 PM

Interesting selection, but how in tarnations did Dante's Inferno beat out Uncharted 2?

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BigBoss4ever
Thursday, July 22, 2010 @ 12:33:24 AM

as i said, order matters not in my list. ;)

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Wissam
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 11:49:02 AM
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God of war 3 is better than heavy rain IMO.

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Vivi_Gamer
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 12:22:06 PM

Good for you...

But in all seriousness you can't really compair the two can you.

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bigrailer19
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 1:24:50 PM

I think when you put all things aside and ask yourself what are the best games this generation then you have to compare. Heavy Rain may be some of the most original work we've ever seen, and GOW 3 may be a technical masterpiece.

But where does that him home with the person? Sometimes all it takes is one character to make a difference in which game is better for a person.

Now if we were talking solely about one or the other then obviously you can't say that GOW3 is the better game or vise versa, well because they are not even near the same type of experience.

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Jawknee
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 1:42:47 PM

I kinda agree with him. Though they are not the same kind of game and are fantastic for different reasons, i got my entertainment out of God of War III then Heavy Rain.

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bigrailer19
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 12:14:16 PM
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Well my top list of 5 must haves (not necessarily my fav.) if I had to narrow it down, from the games in MY library would be-

5) Oblivion plus Shivering Isles expansion

4) Metal Gear Solid 4

3) Uncharted: Drakes Fortune

2) God of War 3

1) Uncharted 2: Among thieves

If I had to Finish out a top ten it would be like this.

6) Red Dead Redemption

7) Killzone 2

8) Little Big Planet

9) inFamous

10) Prince of Persia

Other games would have been Dragon Age, Heavenly sword, If Resistance: Fall of Man MP was still bringing lots of people that would have been on there, I loved the SP in it, the story is compelling, but I truly fell in love the the MP, and now I cant play it anymore, as good as R2 is... Assassins Creed 2 should be up there, really it should, I did have at ten but as I look back on inFamous, that game was just plain fun and I throughly enjoyed it more.

I must also mention that some arguments can be made about PoP being in there but what they did moving the series to an open world, bringing back true fun and difficult puzzles, and a combat system that worked really well for that game, its awesome. Any hack n slash, action platformer, and puzzle fan would enjoy it I believe.

And I've yet to buy Heavy Rain, I know its great but I cant put it on my list cus I havn't played it.

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Kiryu
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 12:32:48 PM
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1.Uncharted 2
2.Heavy Rain
3.Yakuza 3
4.God Of War 3
5.Infamous

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nogoat23
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 1:01:58 PM
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1. Heavy Rain
2. Rachet & Clank: Crack in Time
3. Uncharted 2
4. Burnout Paradise
5. Trine

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GuernicaReborn
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 1:36:44 PM
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I think I would take inFamous off the list and replace it with Dead Space.

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SirLoin of Beef
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 2:04:16 PM
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My top 5 faves would be:

1) Uncharted 2
One of the best, if not THE best, games I've ever played.

2) Oblivion
Besides World of Warcraft, I have never sunk so much time into a game. I have over 100 hours into it and still haven't finished the main quest (I putz around a lot and had a lot of fun with the two expansions)

3) Dragon Age: Origins
I LOVE this game. Great story and writing and the jokes between the party members really made me laugh.

4) Mass Effect 2
Another BioWare gem. They know how to use the medium to tell stories. Has some decent DLC, too, to keep it fresh.

5) A Kingdom for Keflings
It's a shame this little gem hasn't come to the PSN (that I know of). It's a simple game but fun and addicting. Games by these smaller dev groups are what make services like PSN and XBL as cool as they are, in my opinion.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 2:14:00 PM

I haven't finished the Oblivion main quest yet either, but some day man...

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kraygen
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 11:24:22 PM

As much fun as oblivion is and as much as I enjoyed it, if you actually just do the main quest, you can beat it in under 8 hours with ease. Thankfully there is so much other stuff to do.

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SirLoin of Beef
Monday, July 19, 2010 @ 9:40:25 AM

That's what I keep telling myself World, some day I'll finish it! I can see the main quest not lasting long kraygen. It's really not that intricate when you see what it entails. But man, oh man, do they give you all kinds of stuff to do on the side. To me, the side quests and such are much more fun than the main.

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Shams
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 3:01:24 PM
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Btw, Ben. Nice choice of header and picture for the editorial. They really go together as I'm sure you intended!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 5:59:42 PM

Did not. :)

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Shams
Sunday, July 18, 2010 @ 10:01:45 AM

"It so good, it hurts" and Madison/Ainsley checking herself out in the mirror? While Heavy Rain definitely fits the bill, I was pretty sure you had double-meaning thar!

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Jakintosh
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 3:06:36 PM
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No one will probably read this far, but my top X of this generation:

1. Uncharted
2. Uncharted 2
3. inFamous
4. LittleBigPlanet
5. Ratchet and Clank: CiT
6. Heavy Rain
7. God of War 3
8. Mirrors Edge
9. Assassin's Creed 2
10. Burnout Paradise
11. WipEout HD
12. ModNation Racers
13. Flower
14. Resistance 2
15. Crash Commando
16. Local Multiplayer in Halo 3

Yup, those are the top 16 games I can think of... idk if NDS is considered this gen (it came out when PS2 was around...) but if so, the Pokemon Heart Gold is on there too some where...

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 3:57:37 PM

Uncharted over Uncharted 2...?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 5:57:52 PM

madness

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bigrailer19
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 7:22:55 PM

I kind of agree, I think the story unfolded and was told better. And even more exciting.

But the story was PLAYED (the gameplay) out better in Uncharted 2. The action was so perfect, and amazing. And obviously Uncharted 2 is a technical masterpiece un-compromised at this point! Both are among my top five fav. games of all time! They are both unbelievable!

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CharlesD
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 7:04:15 PM
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Ben's list is almost identical to mine. The differences are so minimal that what was written in the article above pretty much sums up any comment I would have had on my favorite games lol

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Benzin
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 7:11:35 PM
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Sorry but the voice acting in Heavy Rain for the most part was some of the worst I've head in a game. That doesn't keep it it from staying in my top five though. I guess that's a testament to how good the rest of the game is.

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BengiePR23
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 8:50:55 PM
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I agree with that list a 100%,Ben, as I have all 5 of them. Guys I need help with two trophies, The first is from GOWIII, where in Hades( hell) can i do the Hit-man trophie: 1000 hits. SPOILER: And what i need to do to get the trophie in HR, where i need to take care of the babie?

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JDC80
Saturday, July 17, 2010 @ 9:36:52 PM
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The ones I played this far

1.Uncharted 2:AT (best game I played thus far)
2.Killzone 2
3.InFamous
4.Metal Gear Solid 4
5.Heavenly Sword
6.God of War 3
7.Uncharted: DF
8.Ninja Gaiden Sigma series
9.Batman:AA
10.Ghostbusters (I was a child of the 80s loved the movies and loved the cartoon)
11.GTA IV
12.Resistance series
13.Battlefield:Bad Company series
14.Street Fighter IV
15.COD: World at War (two words Nazi Zombies)
16.NHL 10

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JDC80
Monday, July 19, 2010 @ 1:15:51 PM

games I played this far update

I can't believe I forgot to add "Red Dead Redemption" to my list of best games of this generation. Good story, really good voice acting,loved exploring the wild west and the pay off at the end.

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JROD0823
Sunday, July 18, 2010 @ 3:24:39 AM
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@ Ben

Just wanted to clarify that Jacqui Ainsley is English, thought I'd point that out. And stunning, damn that Guy Ritchie fellow, lol.

My top 10 (Listed in particular order)
1. Uncharted 2
2. God of War 3
3. Assassin's Creed 2
4. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion + The Shivering Isles
5. Heavy Rain
6. Red Dead Redemption
7. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
8. Resistance 2
9. Bioshock
10. Grand Theft Auto IV

Top 15
11. Battlefield: Bad Company
12. Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (How could they leave out at least ONE mention of the beloved Truckasaurus Rex?)
13 Resistance: Fall of Man
14. Dante's Inferno
15. Assassin's Creed

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JROD0823
Sunday, July 18, 2010 @ 3:54:43 AM
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Btw, I'm now just playing through all 4 MGS games, so MSG4 might make the list after I play it. Also, I am playing through Fallout 3 GOTY, so it might surpass the almighty Oblivion in the end, we'll see.

Top 10 games on the horizon
1. Gran Turismo 5
2. Dead Space 2 (Whoops, how did I leave the first one off of my top 15?)(Dead Space #7)
3. Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood
4. Rock Band 3
5. Star Wars: The Force Unleashed 2 (First one would have made top 20)
6. Killzone 3 (Killzone 2 in top 20)
7. Deus Ex: Human Revolution
8. Metal Gear Solid: Rising
9. Medal of Honor
10. LA Noire

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Bjorn77
Sunday, July 18, 2010 @ 2:35:50 PM
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My top 5:

1. GOW Collection + GOW 3 (I love this genre, There is no better satisfaction then slaughtering all in your path... Kratos STYLE)
2. Red Dead Redemption (What an amazing ending! I just sat on my couch with my mouth open for quite some time.... Amazing. Kudo's to Rockstar)
3. Uncharted 2 (WOW WOW WOW)
4. Uncharted, Drake's fortune (Still playing this one - Replay value is HIGH!!)
5. Darksiders (Just bought it for fun and I played it for more then a month.... Great game, great action, cool sword!

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Godslim
Monday, July 19, 2010 @ 9:55:29 AM
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my top

1.cod4 and MW2 purely because they r my most played games.....luv the story and mp wise nuthin comes close in its fast action

2.mgs4--- huge mgs fan and loved the epic ending

3. uncharted 1 and 2--- biggest surprise for me luved them both story, graphics and luv drake!

4. lbp becoz of the fun i had with mates on it...brilliant fun

5. i'll give to god of war 3....although i thought it the worst of the 3....with a disappointing ending


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Shams
Monday, July 19, 2010 @ 10:31:29 AM

I think previous GOW's never really had good endings, or even very deep stories. I realized that when I replayed the GOW collection. I just think GOW3 was less of an evolutionary jump in the genre than GOW1 was, and less variety than GOW2. It of course had the best graphics, and action, though.

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Zorigo
Monday, July 19, 2010 @ 10:07:03 AM
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5 YESES.

let me just clean up the mess in my pants

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BeezleDrop
Monday, July 19, 2010 @ 10:25:46 AM
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As I can agree with most of everyones post's and choices on their lists, the only FPS shooter worth anyones list is Bioshock. The thing is though, I don't know why everyone was disappointed with GoW3, I thought it was down-right magnificent. Everything about it screamed Bad A$$.

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Jawknee
Monday, July 19, 2010 @ 11:05:52 AM

I never liked action games but God of War III is one of my favorite games this generation. The story could have been better but it was still pretty awe inspiring.

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booze925
Monday, July 19, 2010 @ 2:01:31 PM
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what a shock! every game listed is a ps3 exclusive!
what about mass effect, call of duty 4, or grand theft auto 4?

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SirLoin of Beef
Monday, July 19, 2010 @ 2:16:01 PM

It was Ben's personal top 5 games. If those games aren't listed, it's because they're not in his top 5. I just don't see the big deal that they're all PS3 exclusives. Aren't people allowed to like what they like anymore?

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Jawknee
Monday, July 19, 2010 @ 2:58:31 PM

SHOCKER!! those games you listed just aren't as good as the ones on his list.

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Jawknee
Monday, July 19, 2010 @ 4:04:14 PM

Not to say those are bad either Booze. I liked MW1 quite a bit and while i never liked GTA games like RDR or Infamous likely wouldn't exist. So i commend it.

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