Ben's Week In Review: September 5
View Large ImageHurricane Earl = dud. Well, around here, anyway. It was still fun to watch the winds whip the skirts around at the US Open, though. ;)
Capcom, Square-Enix probably shouldn't be your role model
I don't get it. I just don't get it. No matter how many times I think about it, no matter how many ways I analyze it, I just can't comprehend the desire to "Westernize" major Japanese franchises like Devil May Cry. At first, I thought I might be in the minority but upon reading about a hundred comments to that article, I'm pretty sure I'm not...and I've seen the response of other gamers in forums around the Internet, and I'd estimate that at least 90% of those who heard that "we have to give DMC a Western touch" statement hated it. DMC4 didn't sell well enough? Really? I don't think that's true - I'd have to check the sales numbers, but I believe they were pretty damn good - and even if it were true, what good will it do to forsake the loyal followers in an attempt to create an entirely different fanbase from scratch? What the hell does that even mean?! They must think they'll be able to keep all their fans while adding more, right? But...uh...if you take the Japanese flair away from DMC, those fans are gonna go bye bye.
Then, they went and laughed at the idea of an Onimusha return, which caused even more irate responses from fans and gamers. Capcom isn't making any friends in the gaming community right about now. Maybe they should actually read the responses here and other places; it isn't hard to find examples of the backlash. I mean, good God, just pay attention.
You're not convincing me, Crytek
I don't care what anyone says; PC devs have the biggest egos on earth. I know some of it can be attributed to the sour grape syndrome, as they've watched consoles advance in just about every possible facet of entertainment while their precious PC platform has taken a back seat. So maybe this is why Crytek claims that both the PS3 and Xbox 360 have been maxed out. They may have a point; we're five years into this generation, after all, and it's tough to believe we'll see something better than Uncharted 2: Among Thieves. But you know, if Naughty Dog had said this, or Kojima, I would be more inclined to listen. But I've seen gameplay of Crysis 2, and Crytek's claims of it being the "best looking console game" in existence aren't ringing true just yet. Has anyone noticed that PC developers don't seem to believe in color and vibrancy? That we get a lot of metallic silvers, grays, and darker colors? The lushness of an Uncharted just doesn't seem to exist in the PC realm.
But that's beside the point. The point is, I'm not about to put a lot of stock into Crytek's words when they don't appear to have maxed out anything. I'm sure it'll be good but right now, Crytek is talking a lot of trash, and Killzone 3 footage continues to vastly outstrip anything I've seen of Crysis 2. Maybe they think they've maxed out the PS3 and 360 because they haven't dedicated all their time to the PS3...just a thought.
Personal gaming update
Not much going on for me as I lie in wait for October, but I am playing Cladun: This is an RPG! on the PSP. You'll see a review for that this week - it comes out on September 21, by the way - and you can also expect to see more PSP reviews in the future. At the very least, I want to cover the big titles; I feel so bad that we missed Peace Walker. You should also see reviews for Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions and Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X. 2 this week, along with answers from Tecmo and Insomniac for our Quantum Theory and Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One questions. Oh, and I want to get to Castle Crashers on the PSN, too.
Beyond that, I'm still reading "War and Peace" (currently at the end of Volume 2), which is phenomenal. I'm also watching the US Open pretty religiously. The wind caused all sorts of hilarious problems today; Jelena Jankovic almost missed a serve entirely and sent the ball into the fourth row, and Sharapova's match was delayed like a half-dozen times for stuff like towels flying across the court. It's too bad that Roddick is out but Fish is playing great, and it's nice to see my girl Ivanovic playing well again. My predictions- Wozniacki wins the women side; Murray wins the men side.
9/4/2010 Ben Dutka
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Comments (113 posts)
Highlander
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:42:17 AM
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Lawless SXE
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 10:00:56 PM
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Well, according to Wikipedia (I know it's not a great source, but it's easy) DMC4 had sold 2.3 million copies by the end of March 2008. That's pretty damned good sales when you consider that this generation had barely started at that point. Honestly though, I don't really want to know what the devs are thinking anymore. it makes my head hurt too much. You'd think that they'd be able to just jump on the internet once in a while and try to gauge fan reaction to the titles that have been released, rather than just looking at the sales figures. Bleh.
As far as Crytek go, they've proven they can talk the talk, but I honestly can't see their title standing up to being the best looking game on consoles. So far as maxing them out, yeah sure, but that doesn't make it a great game off the bat. I don't know. They all seem a bit arrogant.
Personal Update:
Finished part 1 of Anna Karenina, really enjoying it. I'll be picking up a couple more books when I head down cityway next weekend, but I don't know what yet. Probably not War and Peace though.
Finished Final Fantasy XIII on Monday afternoon. Posted a review if you want to see my thoughts. Now I'm playing through GTAIV, and after that the Episodes. Also playing a bit of GTPSP on the side.
Yesterday I bought Blade Runner on Blu-ray and the album 'I Believe You Liar' by Washington. I like them both.
Outside of that, still writing, getting back into exercise slowly, wanting to kill people at work, no longer interested in the NRL season this year as my two favourite teams ended up as the bottom two teams, and I'm not sure if the Titans got into the finals, I'll have to check later. Hmm... yeah.
Looking forward to next weekend. That's all I can say. Also I won't be posting on Wednesday or Thursday, not that y'all care too much.
Peace.
P.S. Ben, really looking forward to those interviews and more PSP reviews. Keep Chillin'
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Lawless SXE
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 10:05:19 PM
Peace.
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Qubex
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 11:03:52 AM
I think no area of New Zealand is untouchable, except maybe Auckland and north from there.
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
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Jawknee
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:35:09 PM
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alnemozac
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 7:28:17 PM
You are right most places in NZ will get earthquakes at different times, even Auckland gets them. But remember Auckland is also built on a whole heap of volcano's, most of them are extinct though.
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blitz30952
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 8:05:51 PM
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Temjin001
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 10:10:33 PM
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I have faith in Crysis 2; though, I'm still taking the wait and see approach. It's not as exciting to me as either Reach or KZ3.
As to whether or not the PS3 and 360 are at their limits: I think it's a matter of perspective. There's so much these systems can do it's difficult for me to accept that we need to race into new hardware. Games today can still wow me, and I think there's plenty of life in the current gen to carry on several more years of great hits without causing the gamer to lay down a few hundred bucks for a hardware upgrade. Am I the only one who feels that this hardware gen is still just starting?
I've been playing Assassins Creed 2 and Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, peppered with some intermittent FFIX sessions--my PSP-fix that gets time in-between the cracks. I really have to commend AC2 for it's excellence. The critic in me is ready to claim that it's the best game I've played this year. I never really played the first game, so this whole franchise has been introduced to me largely through AC2.
I look forward to future installments, but I'm leery of Ubi-Soft's pedigree of milking the life out of franchise until it feels like common stock.
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Shams
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:20:07 AM
While it is true, certain relatively-recent phenomena such as MW and Halo in the western market have been met by unprecedented sales and represent a newly burgeoning market, which is making a whole lot of people salivate enviously over, that doesn't mean the previous markets and genres are now dwindling and defunct. But if they continue to fuel and follow that paranoia, they may actually enact a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Regarding my gaming update, i was pleasantly surprised by Demon's Souls. Now i'm playing Dante's Inferno on account of World's praise for the game. I must admit, even though so far it does seem like a shameless reskinning of GOW as i expected, i must say it is an uncannily well-done imitation, as far as the gameplay and engine and presentation is concerned. And that, i did not expect.
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Temjin001
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 3:16:11 PM
I suppose I could be called Titan-Temjin, having beat GoW3 on that mode and all of it's Olympus Challenges... but doing that isn't anywhere near as cool as being a Master Ninja. So I'm good with just Temjin until I become Master =D
I also felt that from the demo that Dante's Inferno was a "me-too" title in the genre. I dunno.
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Shams
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 4:56:15 PM
BTW, platinuming GOW3 (beating the game on titan, a long with the challenges, and other trophies) is definitely on par with MNM mode on NGS2.
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Temjin001
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 5:25:54 PM
1) The Obsidian Scorpion
2) Inside of Pandora's Box: A tough drawn out battle fighting a multitude of enemies
3) The 3 headed fire dog late in the game
And I should mention the very first boss fight was tough because of being so weak.
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Shams
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 9:06:54 PM
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frylock25
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 10:14:39 PM
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noone seems to have brought this up but on tuesday there will be a demo for the new God of War psp game for plus members.
as far as pc gaming goes i have been looking for things to play on my pc and i am not impressed. i still find ps3 to be the better choice in most games that are on both. what isnt on my ps3 i just dont think i like.
personal gaming update:
i finally have had some time to play some games this week. when I go to wait for the bus after school to pick up my kid i bring my psp and read some comics or play a game.
i picked up cuboid and that is a lot of fun. some of the puzzles are pretty hard. i also picked up hamster ball for my daughter that is turning 6 later this month. she had a blast playing that and thought the hamster was cute.
i also upgraded my internet this past week from dsl to cable. i was getting about 2.5mbps and now im up to anywhere from 18mbps to 21mbps. i only pay for 12mbps. i can tell the difference in everything i do. i love it.
im planning on getting into the dlc for bioshock 2 soon. a friend gave me a trial key for starcraft 2. i played a few hours so far and as much as it is fun, i wont be buying it. i will enjoy the trial and move on. if i really want to play it ill go over to my buddies. i have been playing a little more spore. still wish this game would have made it to the ps3, would be a great ps3 game.
i looked at ffxiii on amazon its about $30, i decided to keep my $$. i dont know thinkin about gamefly again so i can just play some games that i wont have to buy.
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Temjin001
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 10:26:47 PM
It bothers me that GoW is PSN-Plus members only.
While I'm not a Kane and Lynch guy, during the time the US demo was available only for PSN PLUS members, I could've downloaded the demo from the Euro PSN without any memberships.
This reminds me of instance a few years ago.
A 360-fan-buddy of mine was saying how much he liked subscribing to OXM because he gets demo discs, like the "exclusive Turok demo." But before his mag had even arrived through the mail I already had access to the same demo from PSN... So basically, the existence of his magazine prevented him from getting the demo sooner. I wonder if the existence of PSN Plus is doing the same thing. In the case of K&L, it has.
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frylock25
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 10:52:20 PM
it doesnt seem that they are holding up the full end of the plus deal. im a little unimpressed so far but i have had a lot of fun with the games i have gotten so far. dont get me wrong unimpressed is not the same as unhappy. i have many more months of content on the way and still time to be impressed.
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BikerSaint
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:01:13 AM
Very cool, especially seeing how I'm not even a Plus member yet.
Thanks PSN & Sony!
BTW, I love the GOW GoS demo, it's absolutely gonna be giving some angry love to the PSP.
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:25:21 AM
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LegendaryWolfeh
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 11:15:52 PM
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Now Crysis 2 on console, I'm sure won't even look as good as Crysis 1 on PC I'm guessing, since they really don't know all too much what they're doing with the PS3 (but then again maybe they do, for all we know they've only shown beta gameplay and decided to hide anything better yet) But that's just my opinion, like I said, PC + Ultra settings now, so it all comes down to what kind of PC you have, I'm sure Crysis Medium setting's isn't the most fantastic thing in the world, I dunno, never tried it, haha.
As far as DMC goes, I think I'm done with the series, 3 (special edition) was my favorite by far, then 4 just kind of...ruined it for me, and if they're going even MORE western than the game already seems a bit, then it's just lost now, ah well, gaming update, bout to try out that GoW:GoS demo, woo
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LimitedVertigo
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 11:57:03 PM
Also watch out for the "anti PC" group that plagues this website sometimes. Giving any credit to a PC game over a console game opens you up to a battle.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:01:32 AM
Besides, the point I was making was Crytek's statement about the PS3 and 360 hitting their "technical peaks." I'm not questioning what they can do on PC; I'm questioning if Crysis 2 on consoles will allow me to lend more weight to their comment.
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LegendaryWolfeh
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:03:53 AM
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:19:00 AM
Keep trying to get into the open beta for FFXIV, it's really fun and some of the bugs are funny.
Speaking of graphics I think one of my favorite gaming moments was when I 1st put in the original Far Cry (aka Crysis .5) back in 2004 and was blown away by how real the game looked and how loud my computer was running. I had the same moment when I was playing SOTC on PS2, standing on a high point watching a bird's movements down below in a valley.
I'll take supreme artistic direction and vision on display over superior graphics any day. My memory of the water effects from Far Cry while incredible pails in comparison to multiple moments of brilliance found in SOTC's world.
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Temjin001
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:31:21 AM
Crytek can make a good looking game when they have little concern about performance ceilings (couldn't any decent dev?) so I'm concerned if Crytek really has what it takes to work in an environment where efficiency within limits is concerned.
To their credit, the graphics in Crysis 2 do technically appear to be nice, competitive with a lot of what's out there, but what I've seen doesn't surpass what I've seen from KZ3.
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:38:59 AM
I think there are pros and cons to the differences with designing a game for a PC and a console exclusive. Crytek had the luxury of having a higher ceiling for number crunching but Naughty Dog had one piece of hardware it had to design for and plenty of help from Sony.
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Highlander
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:52:47 AM
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:57:34 AM
4gigs of ram
8600gt videocard
3ghz dual core processor
I don't consider that setup to be "high end" and certainly not very expensive.
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Highlander
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 2:26:28 AM
;)
You have to admit that the guys at Crytek, like some other PC developers, adhere to the mentality that hardware will catch up with them. Their games invariably require more hardware than is common at launch, but about one product cycle later (6 months in the world of video cards) it starts to go mainstream. That's not the way it works on consoles though, and Crytek need to get used to that.
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 2:31:46 AM
My favorite PC developer happens to be the opposite of this type of design. Can you guess who!?......
Yup, Valve. It's nice that I'm able to online game with my friends lacking in PC hardware thx to Valves continued support of a broad range of PC specs.
In the end I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing (go figure) and while Crysis looks amazing the cost of a PC to get its max settings is certainly more expensive than the $300 it takes for Uncharted2 which looks damn near close to Crysis.
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LegendaryWolfeh
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 8:20:52 AM
But yeah, my computer really isn't that great either, well at least compared to NOW anywayz, running a 2.5ghz Quad, 9800GT Geforce and 8gb ram, so it's a bit better, but not amazing haha. Oh...and Vista likes to suck up most my memory =(
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 8:54:03 AM
I'm posting this from work so consider yourself on my good list :)
I suggest you torrent the client file. I made sure to download the client well before the release of the open beta just in case your scenario were to happen. Go to isohunt and search for FFXIV beta client, I know it's on there. A friend of mine downloaded it in under 3hours.
If that doesn't work I will look around for another solution. SE has been VERY idiotic thus far in how they've released the open beta.
Good luck!
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Temjin001
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 3:07:51 PM
Though, going back to developer experience. A dev like Naughty Dog has many years of experience in designing games around the specifics of an architecture. In order for a dev to make a stand-out title for a console they have to work extra hard at making the most out of the same hardware that all of their competitors have.
To connect this to recent statements made by Crytek concerning the necessity of new hardware for advancement. To me, that perspective runs parallel with their reputation of being processing mongers. I can play a game like GoW3 where Santa Monica studios claims they have yet to harness all of the processing options of the PS3 and, yet, I'm blown away by it's graphics. Really, Uncharted 2 and GoW3 look like they belong to a more powerful set of resources as they stand a cut above the rest in nearly every department concerning visuals on consoles.
I'm also suspicious of Crytek's marketing of their CryEngine 3: lets race onto new hardware where they can more aggressively market their engine for prospective devs who would undoubtedly be scoping out API's to power their next-gen games.
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Shams
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 5:02:56 PM
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:05:14 PM
Good points, I agree the games you listed have amazing graphics and the best among console cames.
Shams,
Then don't be a PC gamer since clearly your funds or knowledge don't allow you to play PC games on day1 like me and rest of the PC crowd.
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Shams
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 8:55:53 PM
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LegendaryWolfeh
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 10:38:36 PM
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LimitedVertigo
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 12:19:04 AM
I've been trying to find it as well for you and been unable to. What happens when you launch the client download software? The overall game clocks in over 8.5 gigs.
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LegendaryWolfeh
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 3:27:21 AM
But anywayz, either here or on the forums, tell me what server/character name and stuff you have so we can party up and such whenever we have the time =D
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Temjin001
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 10:59:34 AM
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Shams
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 8:24:19 PM
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frylock25
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 11:19:52 PM
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jigokunohoono
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 11:33:55 PM
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But what i really dont get is why would they want to make their games more american? they're japanese they should worry about making games their people will like and not concentrate on something they know little about.
its like how when i made snickerdoodles i brought lots and lots to school 'cause i knew everyone liked them but when i made something new i only took a few as a test then more next time if they were liked.
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jigokunohoono
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 11:45:53 PM
the ones who aren't power rangers are still not japanese and there was never a japanese voice track for any DMC game
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main_event05
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 11:44:26 PM
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I posted earlier that it was the Sept 10th-14th but its actually the 16th-20th.
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:23:26 AM
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main_event05
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:51:57 AM
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 2:10:29 AM
Look at the new Star Wars films, or the latest Indiana Jones. Just like movies sometimes a game comes out that works on its own and for that moment everything comes together to make something incredible. As years go by the hype increases and people lose focus of what made the original so great and just assume it will all transfer to the newest form.
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main_event05
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 2:30:02 AM
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 2:37:28 AM
FF7 is far more complex than those games and thus any remake will have the burden of tackling the issue of remaining true to the fan base while attempting to offer something fresh and relevant so as to justify the remake. I don't see this happening, certainly not with the hype we've created for such a project.
Continuing the movie comparison, look at remakes. A majority of them pale in comparison to the original movies their based off of. There is a reason for this and I'm sure it will apply to FF7.
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main_event05
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 10:39:29 AM
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:19:02 PM
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johnld
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 11:51:54 PM
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 12:00:31 AM
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Will we be getting a Valkyria Chronicles II review?
I really enjoyed your review of the original (one of the reasons I bought the game) and I'm interested in what you think of the 2nd one in a smaller package.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 12:59:49 AM
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Ultimate_Balla
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:27:40 AM
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:33:09 AM
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BikerSaint
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:47:40 AM
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What system was I-76 for???
Sorry to say that is one I don't have in any of my collections, although I seem to remember it, but just vaguely. It was a car combat game, right???
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 2:00:12 AM
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Qubex
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 2:22:49 AM
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The biggest advantage is the fact that you can "ramp-up" the resolution settings as you want. This is something we can't do with PS3. The overheads in creating a 1080p game off the bat is just to high for the majority of engines out there, including the exclusives. Most of the exclusive games we know and love run at 720p, and that is it. On a PC I could push that much higher.
This does not mean the PS3 exclusives look bad, not at all, they look spectacular :) I am sure PC lovers would have had to lift their eyebrows more than once when gazing upon the exclusives we have. KZ3 and GT5 alone will no doubt blow people away. Last Guardian and Uncharted 3 will do similarly and probably lift the bar again.
All in all though, as stated in Ben's article, I don't think Crysis will be as good looking as we had hoped. It may be smooth and play well, but for graphical prowess, KZ3 will look better I think.
Other than that, I am being a typical "twitch" gamer at the moment wasting time in front of Battlefield Bad Company 2... enjoying the multi-player thoroughly I have to admit.
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
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Lucifer
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:16:06 AM
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Qubex
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 11:10:48 AM
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
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Lucifer
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 4:07:41 PM
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tes37
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 2:25:47 AM
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Highlander
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 2:28:27 AM
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Godslim
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 5:06:06 AM
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NoSmokingBandit
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:15:03 AM
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Sure, Uncharted 2 is great, but for every Uncharted there are 30 monochrome washed-out shooters. The first Crysis was rather colorful due to the jungle setting, so i don't think thats a very fair statement to make.
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Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:28:48 AM
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personal gaming Update
Been mostly playing the frist bioshock just finished the game up early yesterday evening. Now i think i might play Grand theft Auto IV or Red Dead Redemption. What one should i play frist ? my last question is should a noob like me get MAG or not?
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MyWorstNightmar
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 10:34:51 AM
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Deleted User
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:29:34 AM
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personal gaming Update
Been mostly playing the frist bioshock just finished the game up early yesterday evening. Now i think i might play Grand theft Auto IV or Red Dead Redemption. What one should i play frist ? my last question is should a noob like me get MAG or not?
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Deleted User
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:37:26 AM
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personal gaming Update
Been mostly playing the frist bioshock just finished the game up early yesterday evening. Now i think i might play Grand theft Auto IV or Red Dead Redemption. What one should i play frist ? my last question is should a noob like me get MAG or not?
edit: sorry i tryed to delete the top to but it won't work
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Lotusflow3r
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:59:10 AM
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...Also, I would of thought the Duke would get an honourable mention here, i still can't believe it's coming back.
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Highlander
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 12:11:34 PM
What I fear is that instead of being a real, fully fledged Duke title, it's actually a re-skinned shooter based on a generic shooter game engine.
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Lotusflow3r
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 12:55:57 PM
I fully believe that this game will hit shelves at some point and i also believe that no matter what it turns out to be, it'll meet disappointment.....and unfairly due to it's time on standby and the whole "It'll be back" hype.
I've stated before it needs to not go overboard on trying to be revolutionary and innovative. That kind of treatment had mixed results with previous old games getting the new gen make over.
Duke is from the simplicity era of 3d gaming. I think it should boast that again to an almost throwback style.
Keep the story little, little cut scenes, keep it uptempo, have all the old school tongue in cheek and OTT moments.
The new features should be sparse i.e. new power ups (jet pack, vehicles) and be completely OTT and unrealistic.
Duke was just mad fun. It was that that made Duke 3d great....it doesn't need to be a movie or eye candy. We need that simplicity fun injected back into the industry....and i mean full disc games, not PSN titles.
The leaked footage looks promising. The older "leaked footage" fake or not, was also good.....i'm excited.
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JackC8
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 7:29:02 AM
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Personal gaming update: I played Dark Void this week - it was a lot of fun! It's a third-person shooter, but you only spend about half your time doing that - the other half is aerial dogfights using your jetpack, or you can pilot a fighter. Or you can man an anti-aircraft gun. The environments ranged from lush jungles with ancient temples all the way to sci-fi buildings that reminded me of Star Wars the Force Unleashed. The coolest part was the whole vertical aspect of the game - using the jetpack you could get up on top of buildings, descend a thousand feet through a cave, or have battles on the face of a mountain. Some of that stuff was SO cool! Very creative. The weapons were satisfying enough to shoot, and the cover system was excellent. The only minuses were that the graphics were mediocre and it could get frustrating in parts, until you figured out what strategy the developers required you to use in that particular battle. Considering I paid $14 for it, including shipping, what a deal :)
Now I started on Dragon Age Origins. Only a few hours in, seems pretty good so far. I really need to read the instruction book because I have no idea what all the icons on the screen are for lol. I think I'll be having many hours of fun with this one.
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 8:55:14 AM
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RobiinzZ
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 8:10:37 AM
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And so far, i havn't seen one multi-plat look better than an exclusive, so i dout Crytek, there first Console game, can pull it off.
I also dont see why they try and make multi-plats look the same, why not do the best you can do on each console, and if one dosn't look as good, so be it.
PGU: Completed GTA 4 for the first time this week, and all i can say is, wow, great story and am thinking about doing it all again in under 30 hours.
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NazzyQ
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 8:59:19 AM
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Jawknee
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 11:46:38 AM
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aaronisbla
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:03:11 PM
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BigBoss4ever
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 11:44:06 AM
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Highlander
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 12:14:02 PM
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BigBoss4ever
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 11:42:48 AM
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the fact that Japanese gaming developers lost faith and confidence in their own expertise and choose to lick the westerners, and the fact that they prefer cash over talent and perfection has saddened the gaming world and true loyal Sony gamers.
The last two real representatives of the pure Japanese vision of beauty are Hideo Kojima for his MGS series, and Fumito Ueda for his ICO, SOTC and The Last Guardians; and I believe Sakaguchi still has it as well.
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Alienange
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 12:27:30 PM
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It's just another way of poopooing the consoles that have been kicking their ass for the past four years. Oh! But look at the graphics! Really doesn't mean anything, Crytek, when your game requires a two thousand dollar rig that only a handful of basement dwellers have.
I suppose we'll all have a good laugh at Crysis 2 when it releases and move on while the PC elites sit in their basements rubbing their hands together and snicker about how much better their Nvidia powered Crysis 2 is than the console versions.
Hey, at least they've got a game to play now, right?
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Beamboom
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 3:02:29 PM
As an ex-PC gamer I do miss those late night mmorpg and strategy sessions with a bunch of good guys, and I'm not afraid to admit that. It doesnt make the PS3 less of a console than it is.
But ps3 really, really need something more than just multiplayer variations of deathmatch and ctf. It's all soooo last decade.
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Alienange
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 3:38:22 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 5:56:43 PM
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:11:31 PM
Both sides can coexist and both types of gaming can be a perfect combination for someone, like me for example that enjoys the best of both worlds.
So while I'm playing the best new thing out on the PC side and also enjoying the latest game on the console side I guess you're just content with your consoles; which is fine but don't stereotype a group of people just for enjoying PC gaming at its highest form.
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Shams
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 9:33:09 PM
But you acting like an elitist/jerk to support your cause is just fine, eh?
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 9:46:29 PM
But you have to admit that PC gamers TEND to have an elitist mentality and these days, it MIGHT relate to some sour grapes in regards to the differences in how the PC and console industries have progressed over the past decade or so.
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 11:54:27 PM
I think the elitist mentality came out of the shear passion for gaming and what many PC gamers in the past use to do in order to play games (weird installs, bug fixes, etc.). While console gamers popped a disk/cartridge into a box unit and played away PC gamers would sometimes find themselves going the extra mile in order to play a certain game to their exact liking on a system to their exact liking.
Nowadays a lot of that extra mile has been reduced for a majority of the dwindling PC crowd but the passion is still there and when an avid console gamer (maybe you sometimes Alienange) throws the nose up or the head down at PC gaming the automatic reaction is to remind people sometimes that PC gaming has always been about the games, IMO more so than most console gamers.
Shams,
Be honest, you're not a software engineer, you're tech support for Dell stationed out of Dubai.
Ah yes, again attempting to attack me with ZERO evidence to support your claims. I hardly come across as an elitist, especially since I enjoy all areas of gaming and encourage others do to the same.
You said, "Yeah, I can't imagine holding my breathe for a chance to play a game 3-4 years AFTER it is released."
Going off of what YOU said someone could easily infer that you know little about PC gaming or lack the funds to be a PC gamer (which isn't very expensive) since 3-4 years is a ridiculous estimation unless someone is ignorant of the PC side of gaming and or dirt poor.
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Shams
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 1:46:23 AM
But, tech support out of Dubai, huh? That's not so bad considering Dubai is like the new Hawaii these days!
But no, I'm a C#/VB.NET Developer/Sharepoint Admin, and a work out of Boston, MA. Not that I'm tooting my own horn. If that's too hard for you to believe, it's nothing special, really. It's just that with a salary that's close to six figures, even a couple grand is like two-weeks pay. That's hearty investment for anyone, especially if you pay your own bills.
But really, I wouldn't judge a person based on their salary bracket, profession (as long as they earn a honest and ethical living), or gaming habits. That just seems really shallow...and, you know, elitist.
Anyway, you're right about me not being particularly current about the financial aspects of configuring a gaming rig. What's your ballpark estimate for the cost of one that could run Crysis on High-to-Max settings? And how about the an estimate for one when Crysis was first released (close to 3 years ago)?
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Beamboom
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 9:06:45 AM
Noone buys a gaming rig and just one game, we buy lots of games once the platform is rigged. And the fact of the matter is that the PC games very often cost half the price or even less on day one, and also drops in price *much* faster than the typical platform release. It doesn't take many games before you've saved the extra cash initially spent on equipment. I've never in my life spent as much on gaming as I've done after I converted to the ps3.
And Ben! I look forward to the day the Playstation is graced with such a good *online* game that you'll have to change your opinion on this matter. That day will come, trust me. And I'll be there then, posting a victorious, elitist "What DID I say" in the comments then. ;)
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Shams
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 3:34:39 PM
Regarding my costs gaming with my ps3: 330 for the system, another 500 for all my games (i buy exclusives new and buy/trade all others). I'd include the 700 for my plasma, but i use it for watching movies, too, and my previous crap tv i used for a number of years and a good 2 years of the beginning of this gen, which didn't cost me much. I haven't included electricity, but i'm imagining that somewhere in the ballpark of a computer's as well.
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LimitedVertigo
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 4:13:07 PM
I was at work and enjoying the nice day outside with friends. Thx for assuming my absence was due to an inability in answering your question.
My gaming rig that allowed me to run Crysis on Max settings was roughly 1200 dollars. This included a 25 inch monitor. Using your same logic with your TV I think it's quite justified and cheap in price since I also use my PC to:
Stream Television
Burn/Download/Stream movies
Store and listen to music
Graphic Design
and lots more
Oh and when you take my own words which are a reply to your vague responses they don't count as "evidence".
Congrats on your job and income rate. You could be an uneducated temp at Wendys and afford a gaming PC. Your notion that to game on a PC with graphics comparable to a PS3 requires large sums of money is completely false.
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Shams
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 8:20:29 PM
Regarding you being outside with friends and living the life by working on a holiday, sorry, my bad, you da man. It's just that that hasn't stopped you before from responding on a 24x7 minute-to-minute basis.
Regarding my claims about the affordability of a pc running Crysis (on release date) at MAX settings (which is far more than just "comparable to ps3", but thanks for putting words in my mouth), now you say a temp at Wendy's can afford one, but a tech-support employee can't (as per your previous comment that you're back-peddling from).
If you can afford one, then congrats, have a nice life. All I'm saying is that i can't afford one. If to you that means i "lack knowledge", or am "dirt-poor", or if you would even resort to using such petty remarks as a "come-back" in lue of anything intellectual pertinent to our previous exchanges, well...that just shows how driven you are by your ego, what little you have to do with the intellect that you claim to have.
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LimitedVertigo
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 9:00:44 PM
That was what it cost me in the spring of 2008 (March) for the computer setup I was able to run Crysis at max settings. It wasn't 60fps but it was above 30fps.
I've responded on a 24/7 basis? I highly doubt that but if true I appreciate you taking over the role for me.
I never said a tech support operator couldn't afford a PC capable of running Crysis. I simply said you either were too ignorant of the mechanics for building a gaming PC or too poor. In a different statement I joked that you may be a tech support operator. If you wish to connect the 2 seperate comments (one an honest assumption based on your vague comments before revealing your true reason for not having a gaming PC (lack of interest) and an obvious joke unrelated to the previous comments then go ahead.
Based on your current income you've revealed it doesn't sound like you "can't afford" a gaming PC but rather you choose to spend your money elsewhere. There's a difference between not having something because you lack the funds for it and not having something because it doesn't interest you.
Ego? I love how you stalk me on here and relentlessly attempt to attack me based on ridiculous assumptions and I'm the one with the Ego.
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Shams
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 10:06:37 PM
And as for my "stalking", don't kid yourself. Just as you made it your life-long, impulsive, polemic smear-campaign to ridicule the beliefs of others with any and every chance you get, no matter how small or desperate, i reserve the right to make your visits equally inhospitable.
As an alternative, we can keep it to games. Heck, with just a couple of your comments, you've managed to get me interested pc-gaming, too. So, whether you care or not, it's not that i dismiss everything you say. And it's not that i am telling you what you are allowed or not allowed to say. It's just that i'm reminding you to keep things friendly, and i will be sure to reciprocate.
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LimitedVertigo
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 10:23:38 PM
My intentions were not to get you into any form of gaming but rather to explain and educate you on the costs required to PC game at a rather high level.
I only ridicule those that choose to have the same mentality of a child during Christmas. I'm not going to patronize you as if you're a child. If you're foolish I'm going to point it out unless you validate your position with something substantial. I also don't go out of my way. You choose to bring up issues unrelated to games and respond to my comments, because of this you take on the burden of whatever words I direct your way.
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Shams
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 11:35:49 PM
You didn't know? It was not offensive? Don't bs me. Must i remind you that calling into question my honesty, or condescending upon other's professions sure as hell wasn't a part of your bloody need to educate me, or to amuse me? What else was it besides trash-talking? So don't patronize me.
Religion aside, what good is there to point out the foolishness in strangers? What is the point in attempting to change people by ridiculing them, and whom you have a little or nothing to with?
I've lived long enough to realize that the only person i have any chance in correcting is myself...and as for others, especially those whom i have no right or responsibility over, the only chance i have of intellectually connecting with them upon personal matters is by being a sincere friend, first, and certainly not by being a disingenuous trash-talker feigning superiority. And even then, there are lines of respect and privacy i should not cross.
Perhaps you believe otherwise. And i take it you will obstinately continue your smear-campaign. You take this lecture to be patronizing, as if I'm talking to you like a child. If you won't GROW UP, then so be it. I can't imagine a single person on this Earth affording you the amount of attention as i have. But, perhaps, that is for a very good reason: it's not worth it.
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LimitedVertigo
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 11:56:51 PM
LOL when did I ever call into question your honesty? Me calling you a tech support worker is no different than calling someone on here a child rapist. It's an obvious sarcastic comment. Jesus, you must be the life of the party with your incredible since of humor.
Correcting or pointing out someone's ignorant ways doesn't have to be an educational experience or a kind-natured experience. It could be just a basic practice brought about by reality and the inability to lie to someone when you know their beliefs are not only childish but poisonous to the human species.
Talk to me however you want, it doesn't matter to me. Nothing you say will effect me in any way other than to sometimes give me a chuckle when you don't mean to.
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Beamboom
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:43:49 AM
Lets look at the costs. All numbers in Norwegian kroner, but the relative sums should work as an indicator.
A complete gamer PC, not including monitor (you can connect the PC to the tv too), costs about 8000 Norwegian kroner. A ps3 cost about 2500,-. A little less than 1/3 of the price of the PC, in other words.
A newly released PC game costs about 250.-, the similar game for the ps3 is about 500,-. It should be mentioned that the the prices of pc games vary a lot more than ps3 games, and very often are priced well below 250. So this estimate go in the ps3 favour.
Therefore, 5500/250 = 22. After you've bought 22 games the cost of the PC and the ps3 is identical. Every game after this mark, the PC gains advantage over the ps3.
How many games have you got? I've got 51 games for the ps3 now, therefore, a whopping 29 games ago the ps3 started to be more expensive than the PC.
This is the facts behind the hype. The consoles are *not* the cheap alternative.
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Beamboom
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:49:07 AM
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Jawknee
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:45:08 PM
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As far as these Jap devs, I think it's a lost cause. They have seen there is more money to be made in the mediocrity that MS injected into the gaming market. So why bother wasting time and money on ambitious projects when you can half ass everything, throw a dash of the west in the mix and call it a day?
Update, I have finally gotten Round to playing the Ratchet and Clank Future games. Finished Tools and Quest for Booty. Working on a Crack in Time now. By far the best one in my opinion
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:14:18 PM
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Jawknee
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 3:07:31 PM
PC, now that will be another story. I'm looking for a cheap copy of the first game, and if i do like it and decide to give the second one a shot, the PC version will be the one i get.
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LimitedVertigo
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 4:14:06 PM
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Scarecrow
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 2:08:06 PM
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Now they're infected too
Namco-Bandai is in the same boat
Konami has also been tainted...
It's a sad situation in Japan
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Highlander
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 3:20:17 PM
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Victor321
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 9:08:18 PM
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-was currently playing my 3rd playthrough of Mass Effect 2; am almost done, loving the game as always
-don't know whether what I will say next will be outright wrong or not, but this has happened to me several times now (and not in a short time span), but I will say it; the employees here in EB Games (Canadian divsion of Gamestop, they merged a couple of years ago) are extremely nice and informative, and I saw two instances of an employee informing these two customers the right info on a PS3 and 360 after he/she saw both of them arguing over which console to get (it was a fanboy console war argument, basically).
They were both silenced. I know what the employee said was right because I asked several questions myself ^.^
-went shopping.
-was forced to get off the TV....T.T
-was loving my Japanese Pop and Trance music!!!!
-nearly killed myself in a buffet
-was pretty saddened by the retail presence of the mighty PS2...most times I see PS2 games, they're usually placed on two-three shelves =*(
Next week should be interesting, that's all I'm going to say....other than that I'll cherish my youth as much as possible before adulthood gets me by the belt and tells me that I now have less time in a day, every day for the rest of my life.
=)
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DazeOfWar
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 12:40:52 AM
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Crytek hasn't proven anything to me yet. So far Crysis 2 looks like a generic old FPS. I never played the first one but seeing everything about 2 just doesn't impress.
Also I wonder how you are able to get so much accomplished Ben. Reading about everything you have going right now just blows me away. I'm impressed and congratulate you on the great job you still perform at. Keep up the great work.
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Riku994
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Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 9:52:02 PM