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Ben's Week In Review: September 5

Hurricane Earl = dud. Well, around here, anyway. It was still fun to watch the winds whip the skirts around at the US Open, though. ;)

Capcom, Square-Enix probably shouldn't be your role model

I don't get it. I just don't get it. No matter how many times I think about it, no matter how many ways I analyze it, I just can't comprehend the desire to "Westernize" major Japanese franchises like Devil May Cry. At first, I thought I might be in the minority but upon reading about a hundred comments to that article, I'm pretty sure I'm not...and I've seen the response of other gamers in forums around the Internet, and I'd estimate that at least 90% of those who heard that "we have to give DMC a Western touch" statement hated it. DMC4 didn't sell well enough? Really? I don't think that's true - I'd have to check the sales numbers, but I believe they were pretty damn good - and even if it were true, what good will it do to forsake the loyal followers in an attempt to create an entirely different fanbase from scratch? What the hell does that even mean?! They must think they'll be able to keep all their fans while adding more, right? But...uh...if you take the Japanese flair away from DMC, those fans are gonna go bye bye.

Then, they went and laughed at the idea of an Onimusha return, which caused even more irate responses from fans and gamers. Capcom isn't making any friends in the gaming community right about now. Maybe they should actually read the responses here and other places; it isn't hard to find examples of the backlash. I mean, good God, just pay attention.

You're not convincing me, Crytek

I don't care what anyone says; PC devs have the biggest egos on earth. I know some of it can be attributed to the sour grape syndrome, as they've watched consoles advance in just about every possible facet of entertainment while their precious PC platform has taken a back seat. So maybe this is why Crytek claims that both the PS3 and Xbox 360 have been maxed out. They may have a point; we're five years into this generation, after all, and it's tough to believe we'll see something better than Uncharted 2: Among Thieves. But you know, if Naughty Dog had said this, or Kojima, I would be more inclined to listen. But I've seen gameplay of Crysis 2, and Crytek's claims of it being the "best looking console game" in existence aren't ringing true just yet. Has anyone noticed that PC developers don't seem to believe in color and vibrancy? That we get a lot of metallic silvers, grays, and darker colors? The lushness of an Uncharted just doesn't seem to exist in the PC realm.

But that's beside the point. The point is, I'm not about to put a lot of stock into Crytek's words when they don't appear to have maxed out anything. I'm sure it'll be good but right now, Crytek is talking a lot of trash, and Killzone 3 footage continues to vastly outstrip anything I've seen of Crysis 2. Maybe they think they've maxed out the PS3 and 360 because they haven't dedicated all their time to the PS3...just a thought.

Personal gaming update

Not much going on for me as I lie in wait for October, but I am playing Cladun: This is an RPG! on the PSP. You'll see a review for that this week - it comes out on September 21, by the way - and you can also expect to see more PSP reviews in the future. At the very least, I want to cover the big titles; I feel so bad that we missed Peace Walker. You should also see reviews for Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions and Tom Clancy's H.A.W.X. 2 this week, along with answers from Tecmo and Insomniac for our Quantum Theory and Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One questions. Oh, and I want to get to Castle Crashers on the PSN, too.

Beyond that, I'm still reading "War and Peace" (currently at the end of Volume 2), which is phenomenal. I'm also watching the US Open pretty religiously. The wind caused all sorts of hilarious problems today; Jelena Jankovic almost missed a serve entirely and sent the ball into the fourth row, and Sharapova's match was delayed like a half-dozen times for stuff like towels flying across the court. It's too bad that Roddick is out but Fish is playing great, and it's nice to see my girl Ivanovic playing well again. My predictions- Wozniacki wins the women side; Murray wins the men side.

9/4/2010 Ben Dutka

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Comments (113 posts)

Riku994
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 9:52:02 PM
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I got hit by Earl today. Lost power for 3.5 hours, but no major damage.

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Highlander
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:42:17 AM

That's called a symptom of a thunderstorm around here.

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Lawless SXE
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 10:00:56 PM
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You get a hurricane and NZ gets an earthquake... What's going on here?

Well, according to Wikipedia (I know it's not a great source, but it's easy) DMC4 had sold 2.3 million copies by the end of March 2008. That's pretty damned good sales when you consider that this generation had barely started at that point. Honestly though, I don't really want to know what the devs are thinking anymore. it makes my head hurt too much. You'd think that they'd be able to just jump on the internet once in a while and try to gauge fan reaction to the titles that have been released, rather than just looking at the sales figures. Bleh.

As far as Crytek go, they've proven they can talk the talk, but I honestly can't see their title standing up to being the best looking game on consoles. So far as maxing them out, yeah sure, but that doesn't make it a great game off the bat. I don't know. They all seem a bit arrogant.

Personal Update:
Finished part 1 of Anna Karenina, really enjoying it. I'll be picking up a couple more books when I head down cityway next weekend, but I don't know what yet. Probably not War and Peace though.
Finished Final Fantasy XIII on Monday afternoon. Posted a review if you want to see my thoughts. Now I'm playing through GTAIV, and after that the Episodes. Also playing a bit of GTPSP on the side.
Yesterday I bought Blade Runner on Blu-ray and the album 'I Believe You Liar' by Washington. I like them both.
Outside of that, still writing, getting back into exercise slowly, wanting to kill people at work, no longer interested in the NRL season this year as my two favourite teams ended up as the bottom two teams, and I'm not sure if the Titans got into the finals, I'll have to check later. Hmm... yeah.
Looking forward to next weekend. That's all I can say. Also I won't be posting on Wednesday or Thursday, not that y'all care too much.
Peace.
P.S. Ben, really looking forward to those interviews and more PSP reviews. Keep Chillin'

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Lawless SXE
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 10:05:19 PM

Unrelated, but awesome: Sucker Punch at PAX, Cole now has telekinesis. Sweet, and I really hope that they have alternate skins. Apparently they showed off a Dreadlock Cole.
Peace.

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Qubex
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 11:03:52 AM

Its a shame really, I was going to move to Christchurch, but now I am not so sure after doing quite a bit of research on where the fault actually lies.

I think no area of New Zealand is untouchable, except maybe Auckland and north from there.

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Jawknee
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:35:09 PM

Eeeek! I have customers in Churchchrist. Hope they are ok.

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alnemozac
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 7:28:17 PM

@ Qubex

You are right most places in NZ will get earthquakes at different times, even Auckland gets them. But remember Auckland is also built on a whole heap of volcano's, most of them are extinct though.

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blitz30952
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 8:05:51 PM

Good to see the amount of fellow Kiwi's here on PSX :D

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Temjin001
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 10:10:33 PM
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I like DMC and Onimusha the way they are, so I wish Capcom would just relax.

I have faith in Crysis 2; though, I'm still taking the wait and see approach. It's not as exciting to me as either Reach or KZ3.

As to whether or not the PS3 and 360 are at their limits: I think it's a matter of perspective. There's so much these systems can do it's difficult for me to accept that we need to race into new hardware. Games today can still wow me, and I think there's plenty of life in the current gen to carry on several more years of great hits without causing the gamer to lay down a few hundred bucks for a hardware upgrade. Am I the only one who feels that this hardware gen is still just starting?

I've been playing Assassins Creed 2 and Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, peppered with some intermittent FFIX sessions--my PSP-fix that gets time in-between the cracks. I really have to commend AC2 for it's excellence. The critic in me is ready to claim that it's the best game I've played this year. I never really played the first game, so this whole franchise has been introduced to me largely through AC2.
I look forward to future installments, but I'm leery of Ubi-Soft's pedigree of milking the life out of franchise until it feels like common stock.




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Shams
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:20:07 AM

Yes, indeed, Master Temujin. Capcom went from being one of my favorite developers of the last generation to almost just "meh" this generation.... And it has everything do with paranoia fueled by Japanese execs fearing the death of their market , and the ailing global economy...They should snap out of it anytime now (though i don't think that would happen as it think it is more of a reflection of execs trying to validate their jobs than of what actual game makers and customers think).

While it is true, certain relatively-recent phenomena such as MW and Halo in the western market have been met by unprecedented sales and represent a newly burgeoning market, which is making a whole lot of people salivate enviously over, that doesn't mean the previous markets and genres are now dwindling and defunct. But if they continue to fuel and follow that paranoia, they may actually enact a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Regarding my gaming update, i was pleasantly surprised by Demon's Souls. Now i'm playing Dante's Inferno on account of World's praise for the game. I must admit, even though so far it does seem like a shameless reskinning of GOW as i expected, i must say it is an uncannily well-done imitation, as far as the gameplay and engine and presentation is concerned. And that, i did not expect.





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Temjin001
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 3:16:11 PM

Ah, no need to call me Master Temjin, yet. Unlike you, I haven't been able to complete NGS2 on Master Ninja difficulty. I'll be happy to accept the title once I complete it on that difficulty as well.

I suppose I could be called Titan-Temjin, having beat GoW3 on that mode and all of it's Olympus Challenges... but doing that isn't anywhere near as cool as being a Master Ninja. So I'm good with just Temjin until I become Master =D

I also felt that from the demo that Dante's Inferno was a "me-too" title in the genre. I dunno.

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Shams
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 4:56:15 PM

Oh, it definitely is a me-too game. A very well done imitation, which is why i only bought it used with the full-intention to return after i'm done with it. I buy plenty of games from the local gamestop where i got it from, so the employees are fine with the occasional free "rental".

BTW, platinuming GOW3 (beating the game on titan, a long with the challenges, and other trophies) is definitely on par with MNM mode on NGS2.

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Temjin001
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 5:25:54 PM

Awesome, well that's comforting about NGS2. I thought GoW's Titan mode had about 3 tough spots.

1) The Obsidian Scorpion
2) Inside of Pandora's Box: A tough drawn out battle fighting a multitude of enemies
3) The 3 headed fire dog late in the game

And I should mention the very first boss fight was tough because of being so weak.


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Shams
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 9:06:54 PM

Those were exactly the sections of gameplay that i was thinking of, too.

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frylock25
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 10:14:39 PM
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it almost sounds like you were disapointed by your opening line Ben.

noone seems to have brought this up but on tuesday there will be a demo for the new God of War psp game for plus members.

as far as pc gaming goes i have been looking for things to play on my pc and i am not impressed. i still find ps3 to be the better choice in most games that are on both. what isnt on my ps3 i just dont think i like.

personal gaming update:
i finally have had some time to play some games this week. when I go to wait for the bus after school to pick up my kid i bring my psp and read some comics or play a game.

i picked up cuboid and that is a lot of fun. some of the puzzles are pretty hard. i also picked up hamster ball for my daughter that is turning 6 later this month. she had a blast playing that and thought the hamster was cute.

i also upgraded my internet this past week from dsl to cable. i was getting about 2.5mbps and now im up to anywhere from 18mbps to 21mbps. i only pay for 12mbps. i can tell the difference in everything i do. i love it.

im planning on getting into the dlc for bioshock 2 soon. a friend gave me a trial key for starcraft 2. i played a few hours so far and as much as it is fun, i wont be buying it. i will enjoy the trial and move on. if i really want to play it ill go over to my buddies. i have been playing a little more spore. still wish this game would have made it to the ps3, would be a great ps3 game.

i looked at ffxiii on amazon its about $30, i decided to keep my $$. i dont know thinkin about gamefly again so i can just play some games that i wont have to buy.



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Temjin001
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 10:26:47 PM

Blockbuster's online site has been doing a 2 week free trial of their online game service. During those two weeks I was able to finish up on FFXIII.

It bothers me that GoW is PSN-Plus members only.
While I'm not a Kane and Lynch guy, during the time the US demo was available only for PSN PLUS members, I could've downloaded the demo from the Euro PSN without any memberships.
This reminds me of instance a few years ago.
A 360-fan-buddy of mine was saying how much he liked subscribing to OXM because he gets demo discs, like the "exclusive Turok demo." But before his mag had even arrived through the mail I already had access to the same demo from PSN... So basically, the existence of his magazine prevented him from getting the demo sooner. I wonder if the existence of PSN Plus is doing the same thing. In the case of K&L, it has.

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frylock25
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 10:52:20 PM

thanks for the idea i almost forgot that blockbuster existed lol.

it doesnt seem that they are holding up the full end of the plus deal. im a little unimpressed so far but i have had a lot of fun with the games i have gotten so far. dont get me wrong unimpressed is not the same as unhappy. i have many more months of content on the way and still time to be impressed.

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BikerSaint
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:01:13 AM

I opened up my email last night & was surprised to see a "Congrats" from the PSN. Somehow I was picked for the GOW Ghost of Sparta demo code.

Very cool, especially seeing how I'm not even a Plus member yet.

Thanks PSN & Sony!

BTW, I love the GOW GoS demo, it's absolutely gonna be giving some angry love to the PSP.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:25:21 AM

Congrats Saint, I'm a plus member and I've really enjoyed being one thus far with all the savings (something we know you love) I've had.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 11:15:52 PM
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Well no offence to anyone, but Crysis 1 on ultra settings on my PC, pretty much is better than any graphics on my ps3. I'm not saying they don't have amazing graphics, I'm just saying the foliage textures, the environment, everything is just better looking.

Now Crysis 2 on console, I'm sure won't even look as good as Crysis 1 on PC I'm guessing, since they really don't know all too much what they're doing with the PS3 (but then again maybe they do, for all we know they've only shown beta gameplay and decided to hide anything better yet) But that's just my opinion, like I said, PC + Ultra settings now, so it all comes down to what kind of PC you have, I'm sure Crysis Medium setting's isn't the most fantastic thing in the world, I dunno, never tried it, haha.

As far as DMC goes, I think I'm done with the series, 3 (special edition) was my favorite by far, then 4 just kind of...ruined it for me, and if they're going even MORE western than the game already seems a bit, then it's just lost now, ah well, gaming update, bout to try out that GoW:GoS demo, woo

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LimitedVertigo
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 11:57:03 PM

Wolf I agree with you about the first Crysis still having the best graphics out there(if your computer can do it). But I must say as the years go by the gap grows smaller and only if you're looking for differences you can't spot them easily between Uncharted2 and Crysis.

Also watch out for the "anti PC" group that plagues this website sometimes. Giving any credit to a PC game over a console game opens you up to a battle.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:01:32 AM

Once you get to high levels of graphical presentations, things get more and more subjective. I've seen Crysis on high settings and I still wasn't as impressed as I was with Uncharted 2. I have my reasons for that but like I said, it gets very subjective when the visuals are so close.

Besides, the point I was making was Crytek's statement about the PS3 and 360 hitting their "technical peaks." I'm not questioning what they can do on PC; I'm questioning if Crysis 2 on consoles will allow me to lend more weight to their comment.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:03:53 AM

True, and I mean, the graphic style of Uncharted 2 wasn't the same as Crysis, and I can indeed say, they both look amazing in their own right, it's only when someone sits and wants to compare the two do you find differences, lol and trust me =P I know about the whole 'anti-pc' thing.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:19:00 AM

Wolf,

Keep trying to get into the open beta for FFXIV, it's really fun and some of the bugs are funny.

Speaking of graphics I think one of my favorite gaming moments was when I 1st put in the original Far Cry (aka Crysis .5) back in 2004 and was blown away by how real the game looked and how loud my computer was running. I had the same moment when I was playing SOTC on PS2, standing on a high point watching a bird's movements down below in a valley.

I'll take supreme artistic direction and vision on display over superior graphics any day. My memory of the water effects from Far Cry while incredible pails in comparison to multiple moments of brilliance found in SOTC's world.

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Temjin001
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:31:21 AM

Really, Uncharted 2 has no business looking competitive with Crysis, but it does. The sad thing is, Crysis can only be made to look awesome using processing power that in many ways is over 5x that of the PS3. If Naughty Dog were creating games with that sort of horsepower that it'd take to run Crysis well, they'd make a game that far surpasses it visually.
Crytek can make a good looking game when they have little concern about performance ceilings (couldn't any decent dev?) so I'm concerned if Crytek really has what it takes to work in an environment where efficiency within limits is concerned.
To their credit, the graphics in Crysis 2 do technically appear to be nice, competitive with a lot of what's out there, but what I've seen doesn't surpass what I've seen from KZ3.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:38:59 AM

Tem you're being a little unfair. Crytek didn't have the luxury of developing for one piece of hardware with unchanged parameters to adjust to. While there may be PCs with more powerful processing than a PS3 there are also PCs with less processing power and Crytek had to design a game around this constraint. Yes people complain that it takes 2k worth of PC hardware to run Crysis effectively but in all honesty this is untrue and it does run on mid level PCs.

I think there are pros and cons to the differences with designing a game for a PC and a console exclusive. Crytek had the luxury of having a higher ceiling for number crunching but Naughty Dog had one piece of hardware it had to design for and plenty of help from Sony.

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Highlander
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:52:47 AM

@LV, Crysis - at launch - required high end hardware to run at anything better than the lower resolutions and detail levels. You know that, you know it's true. Perhaps today it's not, but at launch it sure was.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:57:34 AM

I knew you would show up :). At its launch you're right it took a lot of PC muscle to run it above low settings. Only a few months later I was was running above mid settings with:
4gigs of ram
8600gt videocard
3ghz dual core processor

I don't consider that setup to be "high end" and certainly not very expensive.

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Highlander
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 2:26:28 AM

Not now....no.

;)

You have to admit that the guys at Crytek, like some other PC developers, adhere to the mentality that hardware will catch up with them. Their games invariably require more hardware than is common at launch, but about one product cycle later (6 months in the world of video cards) it starts to go mainstream. That's not the way it works on consoles though, and Crytek need to get used to that.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 2:31:46 AM

I agree with you but for the most part I don't mind it. I enjoy building and modifying new computers and having new games that feature newer/better graphics. It gives you something to look forward to.

My favorite PC developer happens to be the opposite of this type of design. Can you guess who!?......



Yup, Valve. It's nice that I'm able to online game with my friends lacking in PC hardware thx to Valves continued support of a broad range of PC specs.

In the end I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing (go figure) and while Crysis looks amazing the cost of a PC to get its max settings is certainly more expensive than the $300 it takes for Uncharted2 which looks damn near close to Crysis.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 8:20:52 AM

Lol, LV, I'm certainly trying to get into the beta, I got my code in and such, but my problem now is the download client :( I made a post about it in the FFXIV beta thread in the forums if you wanna check it out, I just can't seem to get it to download, SIGH.

But yeah, my computer really isn't that great either, well at least compared to NOW anywayz, running a 2.5ghz Quad, 9800GT Geforce and 8gb ram, so it's a bit better, but not amazing haha. Oh...and Vista likes to suck up most my memory =(

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 8:54:03 AM

Wolf,

I'm posting this from work so consider yourself on my good list :)

I suggest you torrent the client file. I made sure to download the client well before the release of the open beta just in case your scenario were to happen. Go to isohunt and search for FFXIV beta client, I know it's on there. A friend of mine downloaded it in under 3hours.

If that doesn't work I will look around for another solution. SE has been VERY idiotic thus far in how they've released the open beta.

Good luck!

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Temjin001
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 3:07:51 PM

LimitedVertigo, I understand that the development environment for PC is different than that of an exclusive console dev, and it's a good point to mention it.

Though, going back to developer experience. A dev like Naughty Dog has many years of experience in designing games around the specifics of an architecture. In order for a dev to make a stand-out title for a console they have to work extra hard at making the most out of the same hardware that all of their competitors have.

To connect this to recent statements made by Crytek concerning the necessity of new hardware for advancement. To me, that perspective runs parallel with their reputation of being processing mongers. I can play a game like GoW3 where Santa Monica studios claims they have yet to harness all of the processing options of the PS3 and, yet, I'm blown away by it's graphics. Really, Uncharted 2 and GoW3 look like they belong to a more powerful set of resources as they stand a cut above the rest in nearly every department concerning visuals on consoles.
I'm also suspicious of Crytek's marketing of their CryEngine 3: lets race onto new hardware where they can more aggressively market their engine for prospective devs who would undoubtedly be scoping out API's to power their next-gen games.

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Shams
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 5:02:56 PM

Yeah, I can't imagine holding my breathe for a chance to play a game 3-4 years AFTER it is released.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:05:14 PM

Temjin,

Good points, I agree the games you listed have amazing graphics and the best among console cames.


Shams,

Then don't be a PC gamer since clearly your funds or knowledge don't allow you to play PC games on day1 like me and rest of the PC crowd.

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Shams
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 8:55:53 PM

Nah, I'm a software engineer and gainfully employed...so funds and knowledge is not the problem. It's just that I have other things to look forward to in life, and more important things to invest my money in. So the ps3 suits my gaming needs just fine.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 10:38:36 PM

Well, if you're talking about download JUST the client that then P2P downloads the full thing, I have that already, I dl'ed it before the beta started also, but the problem is, I can't seem to download the full Beta now through the download client, it's ticking me off, so I'm looking to see if the full unpacked beta is out and about somewhere, so far, haven't had any luck, ugh.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 12:19:04 AM

Wolf,

I've been trying to find it as well for you and been unable to. What happens when you launch the client download software? The overall game clocks in over 8.5 gigs.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 3:27:21 AM

Lol, kind of late now, but actually it's all good now, someone on the forums helped me out :) they linked me to a site that had pretty much any possible piece I needed to get into it, haha, downloaded each patch individually and such, and when I finally finished it, the servers are down :( LOL

But anywayz, either here or on the forums, tell me what server/character name and stuff you have so we can party up and such whenever we have the time =D

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Temjin001
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 10:59:34 AM

Dang, Shams, we like a lot of the same games and have the same career choice. I'm not employed in the field yet, but in a couple more years I hope to be as I'm still working through my schooling. I hope to land an internship eventually.

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Shams
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 8:24:19 PM

Temujin, I had that suspicion when I saw you use the words "key performance indicators" in a previous (very well-written) comment of yours.

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frylock25
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 11:19:52 PM
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just wanted to throw this out there but EA STORE online has a 40% sale on games right now. it ends 9/5 so anyone got money in the bank today can grab it if you dont mind digital downloads. im getting both the expansions for spore for the price of the bigger one. just a heads up.

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jigokunohoono
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 11:33:55 PM
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if capcom wants DMC5 to sell well any where it needs to be more like 3. 3 was the best DMC by far also onimusha should get a new game it was a great series and lots of people seem to want it,and personally i think we need a new ookami game on ps3

But what i really dont get is why would they want to make their games more american? they're japanese they should worry about making games their people will like and not concentrate on something they know little about.

its like how when i made snickerdoodles i brought lots and lots to school 'cause i knew everyone liked them but when i made something new i only took a few as a test then more next time if they were liked.

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jigokunohoono
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 11:45:53 PM

and isn't DMC already kinda westernized i mean a lot of characters are originally mo-caped and voiced by power ranger stunt men or actors
the ones who aren't power rangers are still not japanese and there was never a japanese voice track for any DMC game

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main_event05
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 11:44:26 PM
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12 days to TGS 2010!!

I posted earlier that it was the Sept 10th-14th but its actually the 16th-20th.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:23:26 AM

I'm really hoping The Last Guardian is shown and discussed since it was a no shoe at E3.

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main_event05
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:51:57 AM

I'm only waiting for that FF7 news, yes I mean WAITING and nope HOPING. I'm also hoping for some more Move news. I'm still on the fence with that, if we get some sord of Red Steel type game I'd be sold though.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 2:10:29 AM

I use to be like you, drooling for some FF7 sequel/remake news but that was years ago and I've come to the conclusion it may not be something I really want.

Look at the new Star Wars films, or the latest Indiana Jones. Just like movies sometimes a game comes out that works on its own and for that moment everything comes together to make something incredible. As years go by the hype increases and people lose focus of what made the original so great and just assume it will all transfer to the newest form.

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main_event05
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 2:30:02 AM

Yes, but those we're completely new entries in the same series, what i'm expecting is a recreation. just like the ones already remade for the DS.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 2:37:28 AM

The DS remakes you speak of are nothing compared to a FF7 remake. Remaking a pixelated NES/SNES game with smoother surfaces and new CGI cutscenes is far different than what we can expect from a FF7 remake.

FF7 is far more complex than those games and thus any remake will have the burden of tackling the issue of remaining true to the fan base while attempting to offer something fresh and relevant so as to justify the remake. I don't see this happening, certainly not with the hype we've created for such a project.

Continuing the movie comparison, look at remakes. A majority of them pale in comparison to the original movies their based off of. There is a reason for this and I'm sure it will apply to FF7.

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main_event05
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 10:39:29 AM

meh, I still hold out until i see otherwise. I hate to think what people will do to SE when FF7 IS announced but its been drastically altered. If that happens I think (Insert Your God of Choice Here) may actually step in and punish those responsible.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:19:02 PM

My gawd of choice has a shemale penis and a big cross stapled to its back.

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main_event05
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 9:10:24 PM

TMI LV, TMI

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johnld
Saturday, September 04, 2010 @ 11:51:54 PM
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maybe square enix and capcom are meeting with activision on how to run a better gaming company....

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 12:00:31 AM
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Ben,

Will we be getting a Valkyria Chronicles II review?

I really enjoyed your review of the original (one of the reasons I bought the game) and I'm interested in what you think of the 2nd one in a smaller package.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 12:59:49 AM

I'll try. I really liked the first one.

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Ultimate_Balla
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:27:40 AM
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Think on it, guys. One of the best mult-plat devs might possibly lose their fans... From the ashes, Activision will rise and become the most-loved around. . . DNF seal no. 2 is being broken.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:33:09 AM

The only game Activision has ever published that I've bought and loved is Interstate 76 and that was well over a decade ago. Please let your prophecy be wrong, oh wise one.

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BikerSaint
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:47:40 AM
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Hey LV,
What system was I-76 for???
Sorry to say that is one I don't have in any of my collections, although I seem to remember it, but just vaguely. It was a car combat game, right???

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 2:00:12 AM

It was a PC game and yeah, it was a car combat game. It was great, and had amazing draw distance for its time. Unlike Twisted Metal it didn't contain a closed level to battle in but rather a story with an open world to explore.

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Qubex
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 2:22:49 AM
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Uncharted 2, KZ2/3, GT5, Metal Gear Solid 4, Infamous and Infamous 2... are particularly brilliant examples of what can be done when making games exclusively for a platform. In comparison, a top of the range PC today, if developed specifically for using all the power of DirectX 11 and the latest ATi and NVIDIA cards would look pretty spectacular, and do.

The biggest advantage is the fact that you can "ramp-up" the resolution settings as you want. This is something we can't do with PS3. The overheads in creating a 1080p game off the bat is just to high for the majority of engines out there, including the exclusives. Most of the exclusive games we know and love run at 720p, and that is it. On a PC I could push that much higher.

This does not mean the PS3 exclusives look bad, not at all, they look spectacular :) I am sure PC lovers would have had to lift their eyebrows more than once when gazing upon the exclusives we have. KZ3 and GT5 alone will no doubt blow people away. Last Guardian and Uncharted 3 will do similarly and probably lift the bar again.

All in all though, as stated in Ben's article, I don't think Crysis will be as good looking as we had hoped. It may be smooth and play well, but for graphical prowess, KZ3 will look better I think.

Other than that, I am being a typical "twitch" gamer at the moment wasting time in front of Battlefield Bad Company 2... enjoying the multi-player thoroughly I have to admit.

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Lucifer
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:16:06 AM

Qubex, I have to say I also love the multiplayer for this game. It seems more serious than the Call of Duty franchise to me.

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Qubex
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 11:10:48 AM

Yhea, it is a cool experience no doubt... at least the game worlds are quite vibrant, however sometimes I do wish the resolution was higher and that the death cam doesn't clip so badly...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Lucifer
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 4:07:41 PM

Honestly, I have never seen a death cam on that game. Everyone I play with likes that hardcore mode and I don't think it has them. It has been awhile though.

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tes37
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 2:25:47 AM
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I thought companies like SE were buying western companies to make the western type games they so desperately want to be a part of. Instead of new ip's we get train-wrecked eastern franchises.

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Highlander
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 2:28:27 AM

Train-wrecked franchises from train-wreck game publishers.

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Godslim
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 5:06:06 AM
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thing is crysis on pc was probably the best looking game ever but on consoles i cant see it looking as good and yeh i wish it wasnt set in a city because of the rubbish colours

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NoSmokingBandit
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:15:03 AM
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Regarding the comment about Crysis 2, there arent many console games that have a ton of color either...

Sure, Uncharted 2 is great, but for every Uncharted there are 30 monochrome washed-out shooters. The first Crysis was rather colorful due to the jungle setting, so i don't think thats a very fair statement to make.

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Deleted User
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:28:48 AM
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Well i can't wait for Crysis 2 i have the frist still in my PC collection of games as for Capcom i don't really care what they do just give me DMC 5 now.

personal gaming Update
Been mostly playing the frist bioshock just finished the game up early yesterday evening. Now i think i might play Grand theft Auto IV or Red Dead Redemption. What one should i play frist ? my last question is should a noob like me get MAG or not?

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MyWorstNightmar
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 10:34:51 AM

I would suggest RDR to play before GTA4.The great single player experience aside, the multiplayer co-op is fun, and the game is still being supported by R* with upcoming dlc. Not to mention the western theme is a welcome change of pace. First game I ever bothered to platinum, so perhaps I am biased in some way. :)

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Deleted User
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:29:34 AM
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Well i can't wait for Crysis 2 i have the frist still in my PC collection of games as for Capcom i don't really care what they do just give me DMC 5 now.

personal gaming Update
Been mostly playing the frist bioshock just finished the game up early yesterday evening. Now i think i might play Grand theft Auto IV or Red Dead Redemption. What one should i play frist ? my last question is should a noob like me get MAG or not?

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Deleted User
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:37:26 AM
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Well i can't wait for Crysis 2 i have the frist still in my PC collection of games as for Capcom i don't really care what they do just give me DMC 5 now.
personal gaming Update
Been mostly playing the frist bioshock just finished the game up early yesterday evening. Now i think i might play Grand theft Auto IV or Red Dead Redemption. What one should i play frist ? my last question is should a noob like me get MAG or not?

edit: sorry i tryed to delete the top to but it won't work

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Lotusflow3r
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:59:10 AM
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I eagerly await This Is An RPG.

...Also, I would of thought the Duke would get an honourable mention here, i still can't believe it's coming back.

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Highlander
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 12:11:34 PM

What worries me about the super quick turnaround in fortune for the Duke is that it seems so unlikely, and seemed next to impossible just a few short months ago.

What I fear is that instead of being a real, fully fledged Duke title, it's actually a re-skinned shooter based on a generic shooter game engine.

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Lotusflow3r
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 12:55:57 PM

Well, i'm hoping they kept all the original material worked on thus far by 3d Realms and are basically just finishing it off.

I fully believe that this game will hit shelves at some point and i also believe that no matter what it turns out to be, it'll meet disappointment.....and unfairly due to it's time on standby and the whole "It'll be back" hype.

I've stated before it needs to not go overboard on trying to be revolutionary and innovative. That kind of treatment had mixed results with previous old games getting the new gen make over.

Duke is from the simplicity era of 3d gaming. I think it should boast that again to an almost throwback style.
Keep the story little, little cut scenes, keep it uptempo, have all the old school tongue in cheek and OTT moments.
The new features should be sparse i.e. new power ups (jet pack, vehicles) and be completely OTT and unrealistic.

Duke was just mad fun. It was that that made Duke 3d great....it doesn't need to be a movie or eye candy. We need that simplicity fun injected back into the industry....and i mean full disc games, not PSN titles.

The leaked footage looks promising. The older "leaked footage" fake or not, was also good.....i'm excited.

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JackC8
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 7:29:02 AM
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Crysis 2 looks like the type of bland, ordinary shooter I might pick up from the bargain bin only because other people made a fuss about it. Then I'd get halfway through and say "Why am I still doing this?" Considering the plethora of truly extraordinary games on the horizon...why indeed.

Personal gaming update: I played Dark Void this week - it was a lot of fun! It's a third-person shooter, but you only spend about half your time doing that - the other half is aerial dogfights using your jetpack, or you can pilot a fighter. Or you can man an anti-aircraft gun. The environments ranged from lush jungles with ancient temples all the way to sci-fi buildings that reminded me of Star Wars the Force Unleashed. The coolest part was the whole vertical aspect of the game - using the jetpack you could get up on top of buildings, descend a thousand feet through a cave, or have battles on the face of a mountain. Some of that stuff was SO cool! Very creative. The weapons were satisfying enough to shoot, and the cover system was excellent. The only minuses were that the graphics were mediocre and it could get frustrating in parts, until you figured out what strategy the developers required you to use in that particular battle. Considering I paid $14 for it, including shipping, what a deal :)

Now I started on Dragon Age Origins. Only a few hours in, seems pretty good so far. I really need to read the instruction book because I have no idea what all the icons on the screen are for lol. I think I'll be having many hours of fun with this one.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 8:55:14 AM

Dark Void is one of the worst games I've played this generation. I didn't even finish the game due to the terrible controls, especially when in the air.

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RobiinzZ
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 8:10:37 AM
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Crytek may be able to max out most consumer PC's, but i think there a long way of maxing the ps3 and generally think, unless you have a dedicated team for each platform, then you cant get the best out of it.

And so far, i havn't seen one multi-plat look better than an exclusive, so i dout Crytek, there first Console game, can pull it off.

I also dont see why they try and make multi-plats look the same, why not do the best you can do on each console, and if one dosn't look as good, so be it.

PGU: Completed GTA 4 for the first time this week, and all i can say is, wow, great story and am thinking about doing it all again in under 30 hours.

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NazzyQ
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 8:59:19 AM
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Lack of colour and vibrancy is an issue more associated with the FPS genre as a whole rather than just PC games. In fact, Killzone 2 probably had more metallic greys, and darker colours than any other shooter on the market. When FPS developers, (Crytek and Guerilla included) work with such a limited range of environments, it's hard to believe that they have pushed any gaming hardware to the max. Guerilla, however is looking to improve on this by introducing a more diverse range of locales in KZ3

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Jawknee
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 11:46:38 AM

KZ2 had a lot of blues, greens and reds too. The game is actually quite colorful for a sci-fi shooter. I will never understand people complaints about the lack of color in KZ2. It was no uncharted but it had a lot more diverse and vibrant colors than say Gears.

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aaronisbla
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:03:11 PM

not sure we played the same game, the color palette on KZ2 is better than what you described in my opinion and it fits the environments that you fight in. Are you expecting purple, pink , and lime green buildings in a urban war setting?

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BigBoss4ever
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 11:44:06 AM

are these product genuine or just good imitations. seems like incredible prices -- too good prices for a genuine brand.

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Highlander
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 12:14:02 PM

Duds, it's a fake goods site, and a spammer, and probably worse. If you took your CC to their website, I would recommend bathing it in the technical equivalent to bleach immediately to ensure it's still clean and hasn't picked up any unfortunate PC disease...

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Jawknee
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:36:48 PM

Ewe, PCTD's. Haha

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BigBoss4ever
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 11:42:48 AM
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the day the entire Japanese video gaming world is fully westernized is the day I stop playing video games, period.

the fact that Japanese gaming developers lost faith and confidence in their own expertise and choose to lick the westerners, and the fact that they prefer cash over talent and perfection has saddened the gaming world and true loyal Sony gamers.

The last two real representatives of the pure Japanese vision of beauty are Hideo Kojima for his MGS series, and Fumito Ueda for his ICO, SOTC and The Last Guardians; and I believe Sakaguchi still has it as well.

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Alienange
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 12:27:30 PM
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I certainly share your disdain for "elite" PC devs. You can almost hear them tugging at their collars as they proclaim that they've maxed out the consoles. I mean wow, first try !

It's just another way of poopooing the consoles that have been kicking their ass for the past four years. Oh! But look at the graphics! Really doesn't mean anything, Crytek, when your game requires a two thousand dollar rig that only a handful of basement dwellers have.

I suppose we'll all have a good laugh at Crysis 2 when it releases and move on while the PC elites sit in their basements rubbing their hands together and snicker about how much better their Nvidia powered Crysis 2 is than the console versions.

Hey, at least they've got a game to play now, right?

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Beamboom
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 3:02:29 PM

You almost sound... Jealous? At least those basement dwellers can enjoy a bit more variety with their online experiences than a just a stockpile of practically identical fps and tps shooters.

As an ex-PC gamer I do miss those late night mmorpg and strategy sessions with a bunch of good guys, and I'm not afraid to admit that. It doesnt make the PS3 less of a console than it is.
But ps3 really, really need something more than just multiplayer variations of deathmatch and ctf. It's all soooo last decade.

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Alienange
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 3:38:22 PM

As an ex-PC gamer, I'm not surprised in the least that you too are an ex-PC Gamer.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 5:56:43 PM

Don't care about multiplayer. I care about the GAMES.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:11:31 PM

Alienange you're not helping your "cause" by acting like a jerk about it. I'm an avid PC gamer and I'd like to think I don't have some elitist mentality (something you come across as having with your rant) nor do I live in a basement, nor do I have a 2k computer setup and I'm able to run max settings on all my games.

Both sides can coexist and both types of gaming can be a perfect combination for someone, like me for example that enjoys the best of both worlds.


So while I'm playing the best new thing out on the PC side and also enjoying the latest game on the console side I guess you're just content with your consoles; which is fine but don't stereotype a group of people just for enjoying PC gaming at its highest form.

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Shams
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 9:33:09 PM

"..clearly your funds or knowledge don't allow you to play PC games on day1 like me and rest of the PC crowd." -LV


But you acting like an elitist/jerk to support your cause is just fine, eh?

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 9:46:29 PM

Limited: I know what you're saying. I spent most of my college days on a PC.

But you have to admit that PC gamers TEND to have an elitist mentality and these days, it MIGHT relate to some sour grapes in regards to the differences in how the PC and console industries have progressed over the past decade or so.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 11:54:27 PM

Ben,

I think the elitist mentality came out of the shear passion for gaming and what many PC gamers in the past use to do in order to play games (weird installs, bug fixes, etc.). While console gamers popped a disk/cartridge into a box unit and played away PC gamers would sometimes find themselves going the extra mile in order to play a certain game to their exact liking on a system to their exact liking.

Nowadays a lot of that extra mile has been reduced for a majority of the dwindling PC crowd but the passion is still there and when an avid console gamer (maybe you sometimes Alienange) throws the nose up or the head down at PC gaming the automatic reaction is to remind people sometimes that PC gaming has always been about the games, IMO more so than most console gamers.

Shams,

Be honest, you're not a software engineer, you're tech support for Dell stationed out of Dubai.

Ah yes, again attempting to attack me with ZERO evidence to support your claims. I hardly come across as an elitist, especially since I enjoy all areas of gaming and encourage others do to the same.

You said, "Yeah, I can't imagine holding my breathe for a chance to play a game 3-4 years AFTER it is released."

Going off of what YOU said someone could easily infer that you know little about PC gaming or lack the funds to be a PC gamer (which isn't very expensive) since 3-4 years is a ridiculous estimation unless someone is ignorant of the PC side of gaming and or dirt poor.

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Shams
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 1:46:23 AM

Zero evidence? I'm using your own words! That's hardly a baseless accusation.

But, tech support out of Dubai, huh? That's not so bad considering Dubai is like the new Hawaii these days!

But no, I'm a C#/VB.NET Developer/Sharepoint Admin, and a work out of Boston, MA. Not that I'm tooting my own horn. If that's too hard for you to believe, it's nothing special, really. It's just that with a salary that's close to six figures, even a couple grand is like two-weeks pay. That's hearty investment for anyone, especially if you pay your own bills.

But really, I wouldn't judge a person based on their salary bracket, profession (as long as they earn a honest and ethical living), or gaming habits. That just seems really shallow...and, you know, elitist.

Anyway, you're right about me not being particularly current about the financial aspects of configuring a gaming rig. What's your ballpark estimate for the cost of one that could run Crysis on High-to-Max settings? And how about the an estimate for one when Crysis was first released (close to 3 years ago)?

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Beamboom
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 9:06:45 AM

The claim that the PC platform is so much more expensive than the ps3/console platform is a *myth* and nothing else. When comparing cost one has to include the cost of the games or it makes no sense.

Noone buys a gaming rig and just one game, we buy lots of games once the platform is rigged. And the fact of the matter is that the PC games very often cost half the price or even less on day one, and also drops in price *much* faster than the typical platform release. It doesn't take many games before you've saved the extra cash initially spent on equipment. I've never in my life spent as much on gaming as I've done after I converted to the ps3.

And Ben! I look forward to the day the Playstation is graced with such a good *online* game that you'll have to change your opinion on this matter. That day will come, trust me. And I'll be there then, posting a victorious, elitist "What DID I say" in the comments then. ;)


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Shams
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 3:34:39 PM

If it's just a myth, i'm glad. Then let's see some numbers. I asked LV a question about the cost-range estimate for a gaming-rig that could run Crysis from high-to-max settings 3 years ago, and now. Apparently, questioning him on such matters is too much for him to bear, so maybe you can answer them.

Regarding my costs gaming with my ps3: 330 for the system, another 500 for all my games (i buy exclusives new and buy/trade all others). I'd include the 700 for my plasma, but i use it for watching movies, too, and my previous crap tv i used for a number of years and a good 2 years of the beginning of this gen, which didn't cost me much. I haven't included electricity, but i'm imagining that somewhere in the ballpark of a computer's as well.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 4:13:07 PM

Shams,

I was at work and enjoying the nice day outside with friends. Thx for assuming my absence was due to an inability in answering your question.


My gaming rig that allowed me to run Crysis on Max settings was roughly 1200 dollars. This included a 25 inch monitor. Using your same logic with your TV I think it's quite justified and cheap in price since I also use my PC to:

Stream Television
Burn/Download/Stream movies
Store and listen to music
Graphic Design
and lots more


Oh and when you take my own words which are a reply to your vague responses they don't count as "evidence".

Congrats on your job and income rate. You could be an uneducated temp at Wendys and afford a gaming PC. Your notion that to game on a PC with graphics comparable to a PS3 requires large sums of money is completely false.

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Shams
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 8:20:29 PM

$1200, huh? Not bad. And Crysis at max settings? What, like at 60fps or like a slide-show? And if it works fine, how about answering the question that you curiously omitted, as to how much the same setup would've cost you 3 years ago.

Regarding you being outside with friends and living the life by working on a holiday, sorry, my bad, you da man. It's just that that hasn't stopped you before from responding on a 24x7 minute-to-minute basis.

Regarding my claims about the affordability of a pc running Crysis (on release date) at MAX settings (which is far more than just "comparable to ps3", but thanks for putting words in my mouth), now you say a temp at Wendy's can afford one, but a tech-support employee can't (as per your previous comment that you're back-peddling from).

If you can afford one, then congrats, have a nice life. All I'm saying is that i can't afford one. If to you that means i "lack knowledge", or am "dirt-poor", or if you would even resort to using such petty remarks as a "come-back" in lue of anything intellectual pertinent to our previous exchanges, well...that just shows how driven you are by your ego, what little you have to do with the intellect that you claim to have.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 9:00:44 PM

Shams,

That was what it cost me in the spring of 2008 (March) for the computer setup I was able to run Crysis at max settings. It wasn't 60fps but it was above 30fps.

I've responded on a 24/7 basis? I highly doubt that but if true I appreciate you taking over the role for me.

I never said a tech support operator couldn't afford a PC capable of running Crysis. I simply said you either were too ignorant of the mechanics for building a gaming PC or too poor. In a different statement I joked that you may be a tech support operator. If you wish to connect the 2 seperate comments (one an honest assumption based on your vague comments before revealing your true reason for not having a gaming PC (lack of interest) and an obvious joke unrelated to the previous comments then go ahead.

Based on your current income you've revealed it doesn't sound like you "can't afford" a gaming PC but rather you choose to spend your money elsewhere. There's a difference between not having something because you lack the funds for it and not having something because it doesn't interest you.

Ego? I love how you stalk me on here and relentlessly attempt to attack me based on ridiculous assumptions and I'm the one with the Ego.


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Shams
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 10:06:37 PM

A joke? Joking implies humor, and that certainly was not your tone, especially when you question my honesty as to who I am, while condescending upon other's occupations. No, LV, that was not joking. That was trash-talking at it's lowest, so cut the bs.

And as for my "stalking", don't kid yourself. Just as you made it your life-long, impulsive, polemic smear-campaign to ridicule the beliefs of others with any and every chance you get, no matter how small or desperate, i reserve the right to make your visits equally inhospitable.

As an alternative, we can keep it to games. Heck, with just a couple of your comments, you've managed to get me interested pc-gaming, too. So, whether you care or not, it's not that i dismiss everything you say. And it's not that i am telling you what you are allowed or not allowed to say. It's just that i'm reminding you to keep things friendly, and i will be sure to reciprocate.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 10:23:38 PM

Joking or sarcasm, either way it was not offensive and if you were than that's just too bad since I don't even know you.

My intentions were not to get you into any form of gaming but rather to explain and educate you on the costs required to PC game at a rather high level.

I only ridicule those that choose to have the same mentality of a child during Christmas. I'm not going to patronize you as if you're a child. If you're foolish I'm going to point it out unless you validate your position with something substantial. I also don't go out of my way. You choose to bring up issues unrelated to games and respond to my comments, because of this you take on the burden of whatever words I direct your way.

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Shams
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 11:35:49 PM

You claim you don't go out of your way, yet you continue to come back to this dated article to respond to me. So please don't bother pretending to be aloof when your actions show you're not.

You didn't know? It was not offensive? Don't bs me. Must i remind you that calling into question my honesty, or condescending upon other's professions sure as hell wasn't a part of your bloody need to educate me, or to amuse me? What else was it besides trash-talking? So don't patronize me.

Religion aside, what good is there to point out the foolishness in strangers? What is the point in attempting to change people by ridiculing them, and whom you have a little or nothing to with?

I've lived long enough to realize that the only person i have any chance in correcting is myself...and as for others, especially those whom i have no right or responsibility over, the only chance i have of intellectually connecting with them upon personal matters is by being a sincere friend, first, and certainly not by being a disingenuous trash-talker feigning superiority. And even then, there are lines of respect and privacy i should not cross.

Perhaps you believe otherwise. And i take it you will obstinately continue your smear-campaign. You take this lecture to be patronizing, as if I'm talking to you like a child. If you won't GROW UP, then so be it. I can't imagine a single person on this Earth affording you the amount of attention as i have. But, perhaps, that is for a very good reason: it's not worth it.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 11:56:51 PM

I reply because I like to have the last word. You reply because you come across as if you're on some mission to "convert" me to your cause.

LOL when did I ever call into question your honesty? Me calling you a tech support worker is no different than calling someone on here a child rapist. It's an obvious sarcastic comment. Jesus, you must be the life of the party with your incredible since of humor.


Correcting or pointing out someone's ignorant ways doesn't have to be an educational experience or a kind-natured experience. It could be just a basic practice brought about by reality and the inability to lie to someone when you know their beliefs are not only childish but poisonous to the human species.

Talk to me however you want, it doesn't matter to me. Nothing you say will effect me in any way other than to sometimes give me a chuckle when you don't mean to.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:43:49 AM

Shams: Well, your question about the price of a "Crysis ready PC" is irrelevant, since one do not buy a gaming platform for just one game.

Lets look at the costs. All numbers in Norwegian kroner, but the relative sums should work as an indicator.

A complete gamer PC, not including monitor (you can connect the PC to the tv too), costs about 8000 Norwegian kroner. A ps3 cost about 2500,-. A little less than 1/3 of the price of the PC, in other words.

A newly released PC game costs about 250.-, the similar game for the ps3 is about 500,-. It should be mentioned that the the prices of pc games vary a lot more than ps3 games, and very often are priced well below 250. So this estimate go in the ps3 favour.

Therefore, 5500/250 = 22. After you've bought 22 games the cost of the PC and the ps3 is identical. Every game after this mark, the PC gains advantage over the ps3.

How many games have you got? I've got 51 games for the ps3 now, therefore, a whopping 29 games ago the ps3 started to be more expensive than the PC.

This is the facts behind the hype. The consoles are *not* the cheap alternative.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, September 07, 2010 @ 10:49:07 AM

... And just as an addendum: If you add to the consideration that a PC has a lot wider use than a ps3, and that most of us need a PC regardless of playing games on it or not, then the difference *really* starts to become obvious as to what is the most economical choice. Then the question is not the cost of the gamer pc, but the difference between the price of the pc you'd want to have anyways, and the additional cost of making it a gamer pc.

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Jawknee
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 1:45:08 PM
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I think it's funny that This is Cryteks first console game and they are already bashing consoles. If the consoles are too weak then why bother?

As far as these Jap devs, I think it's a lost cause. They have seen there is more money to be made in the mediocrity that MS injected into the gaming market. So why bother wasting time and money on ambitious projects when you can half ass everything, throw a dash of the west in the mix and call it a day?

Update, I have finally gotten Round to playing the Ratchet and Clank Future games. Finished Tools and Quest for Booty. Working on a Crack in Time now. By far the best one in my opinion

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 6:14:18 PM

You're taking it completely the wrong way. They were simply giving their professional opinion on the current console hardware available and there is no denying it's not "cutting edge" anymore. Don't take it as bashing. I'm sure they're going to produce a quality product that will look great and play great. Not kissing something's ass isn't bashing it.

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Jawknee
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 3:07:31 PM

I fully agree. No brown nosing needed. These comments coupled with their other comments in the past just come off as a bit arrogant. Their game will not look bad, its just a bit laughable that its their first console game, which isn't out yet, and they are proclaiming they have tapped it for all its worth when judging from the gameplay videos, still doesn't really hold a candle to the likes of God of War III, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 etc.

PC, now that will be another story. I'm looking for a cheap copy of the first game, and if i do like it and decide to give the second one a shot, the PC version will be the one i get.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 4:14:06 PM

I know what you mean, developers like to hype their product in order to boost sales and get free press.

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Scarecrow
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 2:08:06 PM
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Poor Capcom
Now they're infected too
Namco-Bandai is in the same boat

Konami has also been tainted...

It's a sad situation in Japan

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Highlander
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 3:20:17 PM

They're all suffering from a form of SED (Square Enix Disorder).

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Victor321
Sunday, September 05, 2010 @ 9:08:18 PM
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This past week, I....

-was currently playing my 3rd playthrough of Mass Effect 2; am almost done, loving the game as always

-don't know whether what I will say next will be outright wrong or not, but this has happened to me several times now (and not in a short time span), but I will say it; the employees here in EB Games (Canadian divsion of Gamestop, they merged a couple of years ago) are extremely nice and informative, and I saw two instances of an employee informing these two customers the right info on a PS3 and 360 after he/she saw both of them arguing over which console to get (it was a fanboy console war argument, basically).

They were both silenced. I know what the employee said was right because I asked several questions myself ^.^

-went shopping.

-was forced to get off the TV....T.T

-was loving my Japanese Pop and Trance music!!!!

-nearly killed myself in a buffet

-was pretty saddened by the retail presence of the mighty PS2...most times I see PS2 games, they're usually placed on two-three shelves =*(

Next week should be interesting, that's all I'm going to say....other than that I'll cherish my youth as much as possible before adulthood gets me by the belt and tells me that I now have less time in a day, every day for the rest of my life.


=)

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DazeOfWar
Monday, September 06, 2010 @ 12:40:52 AM
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I think DMC is a great series as is. They don't need to westernize it for more people to like. Does Capcom not realize why the game has such a big following. It's because it's already a great game.

Crytek hasn't proven anything to me yet. So far Crysis 2 looks like a generic old FPS. I never played the first one but seeing everything about 2 just doesn't impress.

Also I wonder how you are able to get so much accomplished Ben. Reading about everything you have going right now just blows me away. I'm impressed and congratulate you on the great job you still perform at. Keep up the great work.

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