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Mass Effect And The Importance Of Theme

My review of Mass Effect 2 will go up later tomorrow; in the meantime, consider this a preface.

As time goes on and technology advances, developers are capable of delivering bigger, deeper adventures that feature gigantic size and scope. At first, it was all about size: the bigger it was, the more amazed we were. Remember the impact Grand Theft Auto III had on the gaming market? If it was bigger, there was more to explore, although not necessarily more to do. Also, because we were still somewhat limited, the lack of detail would contribute to a corresponding lack of player involvement.

But these days, every virtual landscape supported by a big budget and talented developers can be both enriching and entrancing. However, as the environment becomes more authentic and more believable, it also becomes more important. In other words, I think we've reached the point where if we're not a fan of a particular theme or setting, no matter how great the game really is, we'll always feel a little...out of touch. We'll feel as if the designers sort of missed us; like we're outsiders. Perhaps it's akin to all the girls who were dragged to the theater to watch "Star Wars" by their boyfriends. They're pretty sure that what they're seeing is special in some way, but that "way" just isn't resonating in their minds.

Take Mass Effect 2, for example. The sci-fi setting is quite vast and intricate; it actually does remind me a lot of "Star Wars." There are different species of humans and other creatures, there are space stations and a whole universe of planets and moons and what have you, and you even travel about on a full-fledged spaceship. Therefore, the sci-fi enthusiasts will almost surely be hooked from the outset. In contrast, I have always been partial to the more medieval surroundings; i.e., the sword 'n staff theme rather than the guns-in-space theme. Therefore, I can absolutely guarantee that if ME2 was identical in terms of story, presentation, gameplay and just about every other element of game design, only it was set in a time of yore, I'd be overjoyed.

As it stands, I sort of feel like that girlfriend back in 1978 who could only shrug her shoulders after watching the movie and go, "well, I'm glad you liked it." And as theme becomes more and more crucial in our increasingly larger interactive experiences, I have a feeling that personal preference will begin to play a more significant role than ever before. There are some potentially universal themes, though; I'm not sure how anyone could be turned off by the Uncharted setting. I mean, it's like Indiana Jones and who didn't like that? ...well, wait...I'm sure there's someone. The point is, we must always remember that for games that strive to engage us on every possible mental level, we will have to make the connection ourselves. And if we can't, something will just feel out of place.

Finally, I would like to add that I try not to let personal opinion impact professional reviews, so don't think that this editorial gives away a lower-than-anticipated score. I will assign the score I think it deserves, with only a dash of my personal reaction. Call it reviewer tilt, if you like.

1/21/2011 Ben Dutka

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Comments (124 posts)

frylock25
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 9:40:37 PM
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im gonna guess that your review will be 8.9 - 9.3 thats just my guess. find out tomorrow.

while i do want to play this just to play it, i might not have the time for a while. maybe your review will make me want to play it more Ben. im sure it is a great game as i have heard a lot of good stuff about it. so many games to play i will add this to the list and work towards it.

doesnt gta3 seem like it came out a long time ago? like twice as long as it actually was.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 10:53:33 PM

A very long time ago, but it was the first time a game made you go. "I can just wander around this giant place and do whatever I want? Cool."

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frylock25
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:44:54 PM

speaking of gta, the theme of vice city would be what everyone loved isnt it?

i still remember the tank code and how fun that was to get a hold of. man i loved playing those old gta games.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:06:52 AM

Not in my case, I found the 80s setting very lame and I couldn't get into it at all, I was born in 81 too.

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ps3sownsxbox360
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 9:46:05 PM
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yes the demo really sucked

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Jawknee
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:04:44 PM

Indeed but the final game is a lot better. And this is coming from me, some one who really couldn't care less for Mass Effect.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:15:24 PM

How does that comment have anything to do with the article?

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Beamboom
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:18:08 PM

I think he misread "theme" to become "demo"...
Oh well, with that nick one should be surprised he can read at all... :D

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Douchebaguette
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 9:54:28 PM
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Ah, the importance of themes.

This is a reason why FFVI & FFVII are awesome.

FFVI: apocalyptic steampunk.

FFVII: distopian cyberpunk.


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I may add that the still camera shot allowed the artistry for older games to shine more, whilst camera scoping now is so flashy & realistic along with the less prerendered & close to realistic graphical design that you can't really sit down properly to a game such as FFXIII & let the the setting engrave into your head as much as the older titles would. Perhaps. I try.


Oh, and Mass Effect 2 is a must buy.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 10:55:37 PM

SE thought they could fool us in FFXIII by putting us into a little tube in which to move and then creating large sweeping backgrounds to dazzle us.

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Highlander
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:05:01 AM

@Worlds...


Kill-Tubes?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:09:27 AM

Yup. I blame myself for not believing it when the first news of the killtubes began to leak. I would tell myself, "Nah these are just a few bad examples", "FF has never disappointed", "it will make up for a few small linear screens", or "FFX was mostly linear."

Oh how wrong I was. And now I know what to look for in the reviews of XIII-2.

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Highlander
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:20:54 AM

What I don't understand is Famitsu's review of it. I know that when the game actually got in the hands of Japanese gamers, the reception was not so positive, but as I remember it Famitsu wasn't exactly incisive.

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Beamboom
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 10:09:32 PM
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Wow...!
I do of course agree that the theme do matter along with other personal preferences (ref my aversion for anything too linear), but I would have thought that no sci-fi interest is required to enjoy this particular case - just a general patience to enjoy fine storytelling.

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PorkChopGamer
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 10:16:55 PM

Agreed. Though, he didn't say he didn't enjoy it. BTW, I dig that Spider Woman pic.

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Beamboom
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 10:33:11 PM

Strictly speaking you are right. He did however roleplay your girlfriend moaning "well, I'm glad you liked it", and that's pretty close imo. :D



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PorkChopGamer
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 10:54:44 PM

True. How some one scould 'shrug' at ME2 is beyond me, but I'm constantly surprised around here...

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 10:57:26 PM

I can't blame the dude. Lots of people don't understand why I can't be entertained by COD for more than a few minutes. And I can't be bothered to watch a "College Gross Out" type of movie.

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PorkChopGamer
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:11:03 PM

@ World

You're right. I just find ME2 to be in that universal category. I know guys (and a girl) who don't do any other sci-fi except ME2 and a few other games. ME2 is just great.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:16:37 PM

ME2 is entirely sci-fi. In no way is it universal; nobody I know is even remotely interested.

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Beamboom
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:25:02 PM

But the TOPICS are universal, Ben. Racism, human nature, politics, greed, love, pain, grief, betrayal... These are timeless elements often found also in fantasy litterature.

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PorkChopGamer
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:30:50 PM

Exactly, Beamboom. The 'Sci-Fi' aspect of it takes a backseat to the three dimensional characters, the world, and its fantastic stories. The fact that the doors slide open automatically shouldn't detract from that at all.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:32:05 PM

So? You're not going to convince me that anybody who likes great stories but doesn't like sci-fi will still love ME2.

"Universal" means my mother would love ME2's story...and that isn't going to happen. People can shove ME2 down my throat all they want; the plot has holes and the mundane often overrides the significant. It's hardly perfect. I don't think we can overlook that, either.

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Temjin001
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:33:37 PM

"Racism, human nature, politics, greed, love, pain, grief, betrayal... " but BeamBoom, if you dress that all up in a Mario or Barbie theme it wouldn't be all that interesting to me...

"Ken: Barbie, we can't be together anymore.
Barbie: it's someone else, isn't it? ISN'T IT?!
Ken: We're just not the same people anymore... we've changed....
Barbie: NO! I didn't change. You did. I was always here fo....

anyway... puke

I think I've made my point =p

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:33:48 PM

But Ben, you don't like anything Western either, but RDR was good fun for yourself and many others on a universal level was it not?

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frylock25
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:36:45 PM

does your mother game at all?

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PorkChopGamer
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:46:17 PM

Plot holes? I played two times from two ME1 saves and it flowed seamlessly with no major plot snags. Maybe that's where the holes come in for you.

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Underdog15
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:01:42 AM

I'm pretty sure I still plan on eventually giving ME2 a shot, but I can guarantee you it won't be at the top of my list.

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Highlander
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:12:17 AM

@Underdog,

I feel the same way. Review scores will have an impact as well.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 1:06:43 AM

PorkChop: No, the plot holes come in where characterization and the events don't really match up. The writing and pacing can be off. But as I love literature, I'm extremely critical when it comes to this facet of gaming.

World: It's true that I'm not a fan of Westerns but because we've never really had much of a "Western" genre in gaming, I was only referring to movies, really. It's why I didn't think I'd like RDR.

But sci-fi has been a part of gaming forever and I know what it's like, and I know I'm not partial to it.

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Shams
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 8:04:17 AM

I'm impartial. Not partial to sci-fi, nor partial to dragons and unicorns. I'll check out either, if the game's got something going for it other than what is only skin-deep.

Really, as long is it isn't COD and all things jingoistically chauvinistic, I'm game...except for most movie adaptations, franchise/label cash-ins, uninspired rip-offs...

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Veitsknight
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 8:06:01 AM

Just so you know, the reason Mass Effect 2 might seem to have plot holes is that the entire Mass Effect 2 game revovles around forming your team for Mass Effect 3.

ME1: Learned about Reapers
ME2: Team-up agains Reapers
ME3: Defeat Reapers

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SmokeyPSD
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 3:31:13 PM

This article did kindof surprise me alittle bit aswell as for me Mass Effect does make me think of how Battlestar Galactica does scifi. In terms of being more character driven and emotionally driven, even political rather than spectacle and visual. Taking a bit of a narrow view on the whole piece.

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Gordo
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 10:24:04 PM
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The theme is very important to a story and "vibe" of a game.

I'm looking forward to Mass Effect 2 a lot as I love sci-fi such as Bladerunner, Firefly, Aliens, Pitch Black and Starship Troopers.

I can understand that if you don't appreciate the theme then that does detract from your general enjoyment.

Final Fantasy is always a bit too emo/medieval/anime/cyberpunk for me.
Can't immerse myself into the story.

Similar to Batman Arkham Asylum. If cartoons aren't your thing then you are never going to appreciate it as much as a devotee.

Each to their own I guess... One mans trash is another mans treasure!

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Shams
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 10:36:03 PM
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Don't really know why the sci-fi theme would detract you from the experience, Ben, if it didn't do so in Resistance or Killzone. Granted, ME2 isn't in the same tier as the aforementioned titles in terms of polish and technical prowess, but it was the story and the character development for me that was the main draw. The action, exploration, side missions, and upgrading were really just setting the pace of the story.

*Potential, mild spoilers ahead....

There were so many moments in the story that caused reflection. With the Geth, for example, one questions what is sentience, individuality, collective conscience, and the rights of existence, particularly when one is forced to choose whether to brain wash them to cooperate, or destroy them. Another moment was with one's suspect alliance with Cerberus and the Illusive man. Does one's loyalty to the political wing one belongs to come first, and achieving what can be done and is practical through the powers-to-be, or does one break ties even with one's own to stick to the principles of the greater good, no matter the consequences. The story of the game, and the side missions, are chalk full of these thought-provoking moments that made the experience shine for me.

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Shams
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 10:47:56 PM

I guess if one has certain expectations or preferences from a particular genre, like preferring fantasy to sci-fi, I could see why a theme might detract or attract someone. And it's only natural to compare games within some sorting of genres when one evaluates one's experience with a game. I guess for me, I didn't know what ME2 was before playing it. So, I didn't have any expectations.

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NoOneSpecial
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:01:00 PM

Yeah, ME2 was more of an rpg than the aforementioned games. The story was so that if you weren't a true fan of it, then it wouldn't give you quite the level of enjoyment that your favorite genre would. For example I adore cars and by extension, greatly enjoy racing video games to the point that I had pre-ordered the collectors edition of GT5 in June. My birthday also happens to be in June, so I decided to buy Split Second (an arcade racer) I enjoyed it, but I still returned it within a week because I just didn't see myself playing it all that much. Even though it was in the same overall genre, I just didn't enjoy it as much. GT5, however, is one game that I cannot stop playing.

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Temjin001
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:05:53 PM

One of my fav thought provoking segments in ME2 was when Shepard corners Legion as to exactly why Legion chose to wear Shepard's old discarded battle armor. Legion kept trying to create some logical calculated diversion to his question--something like a Red Herring fallacy. But Shepard persisted and got Legion to reveal that he had "no data" for why he wore Shepard's armor. This implicitly suggested to me that the Geth don't quite understand themselves as fully as they think they do and perhaps there's an underlying motive to their actions that they haven't yet discovered.

Good stuff

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Beamboom
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:17:05 PM

Excellent post, always good to get confirmed that there are other gamers that treasure those reflective moments of a story.

Also, I think games like these prove that the best games do not depend on frames per second, what render engine or other technical specifications are being used. Those things becomes critical only on titles with little more to offer:
Mass Effect 2, with it's Unreal engine and cross platform release is the hands down best gaming experience I have had (still has!) so far on the PS3. And noone shall tell me that I am wrong in thinking so. Content wins.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:18:58 PM

In Killzone, it's all about gameplay, not story. I don't really care about the setting when it comes to that sort of thing.

When the focus is on the plot and the characters, the theme becomes paramount. That's when personal preference for settings comes into play; if I don't care as much about the surroundings and can't get into the history, lore and storylines floating around...we have problems.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:21:19 PM

Beamboom: Nobody's going to tell you you're "wrong." But I am going to tell you ME2 doesn't seem as perfect to me as it does to others (regardless of personal preference regarding setting).

But I'll leave that for the review.

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Beamboom
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:39:40 PM

Oh that you are of course entitled to.
But if you then started talking about how it "could have been better if it was exclusive", "I spotted a tearscreen", "the game did freeze once", "The Unreal engine spoiled it for me - they all look the same" and those usual rants I'd be disappointed cause that's just *so* totally not what this game is about.

(I do however not expect that from you, just so that is said.)

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Highlander
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:14:26 AM

If you don't expect it from Ben, then why bring it up? If you've read here for any length of time you should already know that the superficial Wow factor of graphics is not a leading indicator of a game's eventual review score. Ben and Arnold look deeper.

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Beamboom
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:24:04 AM

I brought it up because of what I often read in user comments (and maaaybe an editorial or two from Ben. Maaybe. There is a weak, partially muted bell ringing in the back of my head).
I would need no more than 30 minutes before I could lay before thee at least 100 quotes along the lines of "Exclusive titles are just SO much better", "a multi? Uninterested", "a multiplat can never be better than an exclusive", "I'll buy it, unless its multi" etc.
What I have tried to say (MULTIple times too ;) is that the quality of a *really* good game (in my eyes ME2 is just that) depends on so much more than just platform optimized code. Ergo a multiplat CAN be as good, or indeed better, than an exclusive. It not only can, in many cases they *are*.

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Highlander
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:34:13 AM

Yes, and Ben would be one of the first to agree with you. Look, if there is a game that comes on both 360 and PS3 and the 360 version is better, Ben will come right out and tell people that, but what he won't do is talk up an exclusive game regardless of it's quality, just because it's exclusive. That's not something that is going to happen. Nor is a game going to automatically get trashed because it's a Multi-plat game. This is one of the very, very few remaining locations on the Internet, that despite the obvious leaning towards PS3 news actually does give objective reviews of games without the usual spin doctoring and review bias.

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Beamboom
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:51:05 AM

You are absolutely right sir, this little corner on the net *is* our eden. But I suspect you think I am talking about their reviews. I do not. I talk about the user comments. Those we write now.
There I have been thumb-spitfired (not that that's any unfamiliar experience) when trying to speak against such claims.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 1:04:58 AM

Well, you have to expect that on a PlayStation site, people will prefer PS3 exclusives.

Personally, I don't think it's a matter of preference; I think PS3 exclusives are the cream of the crop. But then again, I'm not exactly in the minority on that.

As for reviews and editorials, yes, there are dozens of examples of me supporting that which the PlayStation fans might not like. I dedicated entire pieces to telling everyone how great Alan Wake was, and of course, we were the ones who recommended the 360 version of Dragon Age: Origins, and the more obvious, like the 360 version of Bayonetta.

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Highlander
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 1:27:30 AM

Ah, but Beamboom, the user comments are just that, comments. Of all the communities I've been part of in the gaming world, this is probably the most balanced and least afflicted by hype or fanboyitis. I hear your points, but I think that that's less of a problem that you may fear.

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Shams
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 2:10:14 AM

You weren't a fan of westerns, but that didn't stop you from appreciating RDR and scoring it the same as a personal favorite of yours (AC2, AC:Brotherhood). You didn't seem to mind the sci-fi element of AC, either. But I won't hold it against you if you knock ME2 some tenths of a point out of spite ;)

Regarding KZ2 and R2, besides presentation, and artstyle, really it's theme and story that differentiates FPS's sp campaigns especially from each other, and it's theme and story that causes one to follow a series.

It's really only mp campaigns that revolves purely around gameplay.

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Shams
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 2:25:38 AM

Also, S.Temjin brings up a pertinent point about FFxiii and even Star Wars. Really, neither of them are pure sci-fi, but a marriage between sci-fi and fantasy.

In my childhood, I adored Star Wars, but didn't care much for Star Trek. It wasn't until I was older that I appreciated the literary value and meaning behind the occasional Star Trek show or movie I'd happen to see.

To me, theme to a movie or game is really just a cover to a book. It won't attract me if the underlying content is lacking, and it won't deter me if it is filled with meaning and artistic value...Well, except for Vanquish. Vanquish rocked!

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Temjin001
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 10:09:11 AM

btw, my wife loves Star Wars. She collected Star Wars Pez and had Star Wars puzzles before I met her.

As for Final Fantasy... not so much. She tried watching FF: Advent Children with me and thought it was way bizarre and nerdy.
I think it's awesome.

But I've always thought FF's didn't have particularly good dialogue.. and in FFXIII's case, some, at times, pretty poor character interaction. I totally didn't buy Snow's reaction to Hope's pointed assertion that led to them exploding over the top of a building.. and don't get me started with Vanelle... oh man.
But hey, that's just FF. It's good geeked out fun.

oh and FYI. I helped a Gamestop manager last night sell ME2 to an older dude.. (could've been Biker Saint =p )


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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 10:22:20 AM

Shams: I explained RDR above and Assassin's Creed is HARDLY sci-fi. The parts that WERE sci-fi, when you actually play as Desmond, I never liked. You spend 99.9% of your time in a historically accurate medieval/Renaissance land.

It's about immersion. This isn't a book. We have to be PART OF the adventure, which means if we don't particularly like our surroundings, we lose a bit of interest, regardless of how great everything else is.

But for the record, theme even matters in books. "A Passage to India" is fantastic and I love Forster, but I'll never like it as much as "A Room With a View" mostly because I don't like the Indian setting.

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Shams
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 3:53:46 PM

You've been to India? No, yet despite that, you've already decided for yourself that you dislike it so much so that you wouldn't even want to imagine it in a fictitious setting. That's my suspicion about you and ME2. You've already decided that you won't like it (at least not as much as others might like it).

If I don't like Italian food, it's probably pointless for me to review Italian restaurants, UNLESS my aversion to Italian food isn't enough to distract me from fairly comparing an Italian restaurant to other Italian restaurants, or to other restaurants in terms of attributes I can fairly assess (quality of service, wait time, quality of preparation, asthetics, price, comfort, etc...).

However, if I got something like a gluten allergy, I'd best leave the reviewing to someone who doesn't. Not saying that such is the case with you and ME2, but I think the point has been driven home.

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Shams
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 4:55:49 PM

*aesthetics.

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BikerSaint
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 9:24:16 PM

Temjin001,

<<<<oh and FYI. I helped a Gamestop manager last night sell ME2 to an older dude.. (could've been Biker Saint =p )>>>>

LOL, no,no, no no, that would never be me.
I'm the older dude who's always trying to sell the young dudes on all the great PS3 games.

And with 1791 games(just did my inventory count last night), I could help the GS register bisquits before they'd ever be able to help me. Matter of fact, with just the games I've got right now, I could open up my own games shop & totally run circles around GS, anyone wanna buy a mint 1977 Telestar Alpha? still in the box LOL

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Temjin001
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 9:36:20 PM

Master Shams, are you from India?
If so, cool =)

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Shams
Sunday, January 23, 2011 @ 2:06:21 AM

Nope, I'm not Indian, Sensei Temjin, but I can read between the lines. I don't care, but I wonder what his feelings about Poland are?

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Temjin001
Sunday, January 23, 2011 @ 8:36:12 AM

oh, I feel dumb now. I didn't realize you had responded to Ben's book read from a setting in India. I knew your first name was Aftab, so I thought maybe that was Indian, or something.. doh!

and btw, I was initially concerned about Ben's negative disposition about sci-fi myself a few weeks ago =)
But the review turned out well, don't you think?
=)

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Highlander
Sunday, January 23, 2011 @ 10:58:13 AM

Shams, you are taking offense on behalf of India where none was intended, of that I am sure. Disliking an Indian setting in "PAssage to India" is not the same as saying you don't like India or people from India, or for that matter saying you don't like people from Poland. I'm not sure what lines you think you're reading between, but I don't see them. Passage to India is about the British Empire in India, and although there may be some redeeming features of the British Empire, it's conduct in India was not one of them.

The setting of Passage to India in the last days of the British Raj is not remotely like the India of today, or for that matter the India before the British arrived. That's not to say that what went before the British was necessarily much better for the common man/woman in India, the feudal rulers of India before the British were not exactly kindhearted pacifists. And before anyone asks, no I am not Indian, I am British, and I know enough about what went on in India under British rule to know that there is plenty to be ashamed of. Of course there were good things too, but I'm not qualified to quantify either or weigh them against each other.

Either way, not liking a book set in the last years of the British Raj, is by no means indicative of a general attitude towards India. That's like someone saying that you dislike Africa because you didn't enjoy Lawrence of Arabia, or The Wind And The Lion.

::rolls eyes::

Shams, I'm surprised at you.

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Temjin001
Sunday, January 23, 2011 @ 1:39:04 PM

Okay, wait. Room with a View? Isn't that also a foreign film with a scene with like six naked dudes frolicking in a pond together, or something =p

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Shams
Sunday, January 23, 2011 @ 3:13:05 PM

Sensei Temjin, no worries.

Highlander, this is the 2nd time Ben seemingly randomly mentions his aversion to India (first time being in reply to Qubex's comment after Q's business trip to India when he highly recommends everyone to travel). I'm not taking personal offense, as I'm not Indian as I said before.

But after close to 4 years of reading articles and comments here, I think I know my friends here well enough :) And by friends, I do mean Ben, yourself, Qubex, the recent S.Temjin (last but not least), etc. This should be no surprise to you.

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NoOneSpecial
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 10:54:57 PM
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You are right about the whole idea that we aren't a fan, then we will never enjoy truly feel the same connection that someone who is a fan of the genre.

Going back to the days of pong and forward ahead to space invaders, pac-man etc, games had little to no emotional connection. The objective was quite simple (hit the ball, escape thre ghosts, shoot the aliens, etc) and we just played them. The word "play" is the key here. These days, games are meant to be experienced. With games like Mass Effect, Uncharted and Heavy Rain, you don't just play as the character, you are the character. You feel sadness, excitement, adrenaline, and anger as Shepard or Drake might in their respective situations.

Video games have crossed the threshold of just being a novelty. They have now joined the ranks of books and movies where you get sucked in the story and you feel like you are there. If the genre doesn't suit you, it won't feel the same.

All in all, I predict that the misconception that games are for kids and are a waste of time will fade. I'm not saying that it will go fast, but you simply cannot brush it off any longer. Video games are an art too.

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Beamboom
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:47:16 PM

While I refuse to call it art (on the grounds that I refuse to call any highly commercial product "art") I fully agree in the essence of what you are saying. And it won't take too long either. It can't! Not if products like these are released at a certain pace (every 6th month, please!).

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Temjin001
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 10:58:34 PM
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I really like your editorial Ben. And this very topic is something I've been coming to grips with much more acutely during this gaming gen. Today quality simply isn't enough for me to want to play a game; years ago it usually was. A great review would hit the net for some hotly anticipated game and off I'd go to go buy it. These days, I'm much more selective. It's the very reason I'm not into games like GTA, LBP, Bioshock, Alan Wake, Resident Evil.. and yes, even Heavy Rain. I know all of these games are great and I won't ever trash talk them. I've come to recognize that the theme of the content is so critically important to me. And I think a lot of it has to do with how gaming has expanded in diversity which has been largely brought to pass by the advancements in technology. There's so many components that can compel categories of gamers out there now. It wasn't always like that.. at least it didn't seem that way. BUt when games like FFVII hit the market it seemed EVERYONE was on board and everyone wanted to play it. Everyone could agree and "gamers" moved together like one herd. These days, that just doesn't happen anymore.

ANd to change gears a bit, I happen to really enjoy sci-fi and Tolkin'ish fantasy. Those two themes have always gone together like PB&J for me. Which has me a little curious. Ben, does it bother you that Final Fantasy has had more of tendency to go sci'fi'ish lately--like Star Wars. It seems ever since FFIX the content has a lot more space ships, and futuristic technology. Basically, I'm not feeling a gritty swords and staves vibe from it like a purist would expect from something like Dragon Age. Basically, FF does sleek, stylish and sexy.. where Dragon Age does not.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:38:40 PM

No Bioshock? Blasphemy...

... j/k

... sorta.

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Temjin001
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:56:58 PM

I know. Can you believe I passed on Bioshock 2, again, today for even just $9.99 0_0

I actually feel somewhat obligated to play Heavy Rain because it seems to me that it's a genre birth'er. I do want to stop and appreciate the titles that created something drastically new for us. Even if it deals with content that I'm not exactly interested in.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:14:11 AM

Sometimes certain things require a kind of investment of time. Sometimes it pays off and you found something new you love, sometimes you just wasted your time.

Heavy Rain is one worth putting in a little time in for. I could really see a lot of people going "This is lame" by the time you are just playing with your kids (as Ethan), but once the overall tenseness of it starts your heart pounding and your thumbs searching in microseconds for the proper sequence you know something incredible is happening to entertainment. The demo is really just that one fight scene, and that doesn't capture the real noir of it.

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Scarecrow
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 10:59:17 PM
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I think story has a lot to do with it. The better technology gets the more involved with the game's story we have to be.

I can't stand space/sci-fi stuff (specially the stories), same with Western/cowboy stuff. Explains why I can't get into Read Dead.

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matt99
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:12:42 PM

I agree, we're getting closer and closer to playable movies and because of that storytelling in games needs to evolve to the level of cinema with regards to setting and theme. I think a great example of this being done is the Uncharted series.

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Beamboom
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:52:08 PM

Oh, I think this very game, ME2, is a better example of a "playable movie".

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matt99
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:43:41 AM

Well I have only played the demo which I've heard is not entirely reflective of the final product. However, based on gameplay footage, the demo and what people have said in general I am highly skeptical of your claim, but I will try and reserve judgement until I play the game.

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DarthNemesis
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:12:37 PM
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I was just thinking about how much this game reminds me of Star Wars the other day and I love Star Wars.I understand where you are coming from,but I prefer both Sci-Fi/high tech -favorite with fantasy second- and medieval settings.

I enjoyed Dragon Age: Origins and can not wait for DA2,but I think a game like Deus Ex is more interesting because they offer more variety due to technology and the customization of weapons/armor.

So ME2 gives you a more exciting feel and atmosphere.I could not put ME2 down and have already played over 10 hours of the game and I think I barely scratched the surface.To anyone that is interested,I highly recommend the game as the demo did not do it justice.

I never liked the Unreal Engine,but this is the best game to use it and I think it's better technically than Gears of War and Batman AA.

It's beautiful and it does not have that shiny look of the other games.
The environments are detailed and the art direction is wonderful.Controlling your character feels great too and the controls are smooth.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:36:12 PM
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It's times like these I'm glad I enjoy both Sci Fi and Fantasy settings.

The argument in this editorial seems sound, but has exceptions. Why? Because anybody who plays games on a regular basis can tell you they have been hooked into a story or theme related to something that they never before considered to be something that would go in their "I like this" column.

RDR grabbed folks who didn't give two pieces of poop about a Western story. Fallout 3 and Bioshock brought an affinity to many for all things retro. I'm certain somebody somewhere got into Anime because they liked Valkyria Chronicles.

That's about the long and short of it.

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Beamboom
Friday, January 21, 2011 @ 11:59:49 PM

... and that is why we should always give a good game a chance, despite it not matching the preference checklist.

Example: I can't stand Fantasy. And I am ashame of that. It annoys me, cause there's just SO much of that stuff out there.
To me it's just an eternal grinding of the same content over and over and over.
Then Dragon Age came and took me totally off guard and went straigh to GOTY for me that year.


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johnld
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 2:03:41 AM

@world
my advice is stay far far away from the valkyria chronicles anime. i mean i played and loved the story of the first game so i figured i watch the anime for the hell of it. after watching the series, i was really pissed that they made so much mistakes or changed up parts of the story that they were telling. the main idea of the story was there, the bare main idea, but it was told in a different way. The story of valkyria chronicles was already amazing and i didnt see a reason why they tried to change things.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 10:40:34 AM

Right, I haven't seen the anime for VC, I was speaking more generally. The anime style of Final Fantasy was what got me to start watching it and I know VC has some die hard fans and maybe not all of them have given that art style a chance before, but crossing lines from games to shows (I think) is rather common when people have an affinity for something, especially a new affinity.

Somehow Ben can love FF and JRPGs and hate Anime though. The man's a mystery to me in that way. They are essentially the same thing.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 10:55:44 AM

They are NOT the same thing. Final Fantasy VII was nothing like Akira, my friend. ;)

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Temjin001
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 9:40:55 PM

hehe, Akira. That movie started out good and then it just went all kinds of bizzarre. It left me thinking... what the crap just happened?

I'm extremely selective with anime and I do like sci-fi.

The last good anime series I've watched was Ghost in the Shell: Stand ALone complex. It's well written, and quite interesting.
When I was younger, Ninja Scroll was the greatest anime ever =)
Oh, and I liked the Macross Plus shows, too.


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Highlander
Sunday, January 23, 2011 @ 10:47:06 AM

Akira was all kinds of weird. The ending, well the last quarter of it went way, way, way, way off the deep end though, and in the end I decided that the ending was written around the author's desire to push the envelope of animation in certain ways.

As for Akira and FFVII or any other FF being the same? Well, they are moving images, but that's where the similarities end. The stories are nothing alike, the characters really aren't much alike, and the design and art don't really share many similarities if any. OK, Akira is anime, and FF games have an anime aesthetic, but then so does Atelier Iris, Persona, Ar Tonelico, Xenosaga and shows like Please Teacher and Hand Maid May. Not one of those is remotely similar to the other, except to say that the games are all JRPGs and the shows are all harem romantic/comedy Anime.

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Highlander
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:07:03 AM
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I'm less worried by the setting, sci-fi, fantasy, whatever. It all works well for me. The strength of any game is that the characters fit the setting and story, and they are characters that you care enough about to continue moving forward.

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Beamboom
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:39:40 AM

That, sir, what the precise description of why I found Dragon Age so damn good despite my fantasy dislike.

Damn youre good.


;)

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matt99
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:46:36 AM

Well said Highlander, that is the precise reason I played through and loved RDR even though I hate westerns with a passion.

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Underdog15
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 8:45:01 AM

I agree, and the thing that makes people appreciate the characters is character development. We need back story and other inlets to why they are the way they are.

Single life changing events don't define characters. They define their motivation, yes, but not who they are. This is something overlooked by most modern storytellers.

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___________
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:11:05 AM
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so disappointed about the delay, i really wanted to play this.
i got about 90% of the way through this on the 360 version till i sold my 360 so ive been dying to find out what happens for like a year!
when will publishers learn to release their games properly!?
we have had all of december, and 3 weeks of jan empty so they have to release there game when 3 other games are releasing.
yea, thats common sense!
than they wonder why they sell poorly.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:14:50 AM

There isn't any evidence the game is selling poorly.

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Highlander
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:21:26 AM

Quite the opposite really since it's apparently in short supply already.

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Lawless SXE
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 1:48:40 AM

The shelves were chockers with copies of ME2 and LBP2 in JB Hi-Fi this arvy.

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Gordo
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 6:27:28 AM

Thought Mass Effect 2 wasn't out in Australia until the 27th?

Thought I had a week to wait!

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___________
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 8:34:06 AM

JB?
WHERE?
i had a look in the parra store and they said its not out till the 27th, EB and game said the same thing.

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Lawless SXE
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:29:34 PM

Townsville. They had a stack as you walk in the door.
Yeah... I forgot that it wasn't meant to be out 'til next week. They must've missed the memo.

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___________
Sunday, January 23, 2011 @ 7:10:29 AM

its not that its not suppose to be out its that it was delayed.
there is no street date for ME2, so whenever the stores get there stock they can sell it.
EB just have not received their stock yet, nor has game or most JB stores.
just seems so weird why that store got stock and no one else did.
even on JBs website it says the 27th.

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FM23
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:37:44 AM
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Well at least give it a fair score unlike the critics who gave GT5 a bad score because they don't know cars. Anyway ME2 is great, but yeah if this isn't your thing...it's not going to stick. That's why I don't play COD, JRPG's, arcade race games, and platformers...just doesn't hit me the same way

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Beamboom
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:54:02 AM

Dude, gotta give Ben some cred, he even swallowed his pride and gave black ops a rock solid 90+ score.
He will probably include a paragraph where some "personal observations" are let free.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 1:01:42 AM

For the record, I gave Black Ops an 8.8. ;)

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Beamboom
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 6:28:52 AM

Oh.
Well, let's not get stuck in details, shall we? ;)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 10:55:26 AM

The Devil is in the details.

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Kevin5
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:53:46 AM
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Interesting read, it is rather refreshing to see that not every gaming website's head is up this game's arse. ;)

I personally, love ME2. I thought the theme was great & this is coming from someone that hated Star Wars & Star Trek altogether. But the big plus for me was the attachment to the characters around you, folk like Garrus & Tali were characters you actually gave a sh!t about imo & better still, being able to control the fate of your crew (letting your worst characters die & making sure your fave ones survive)felt like the experience was your own.

I liked the story & races within more than the theme itself but overall it's just a great game imo. It's good to see PS3 masses lapping it up too as i hear the game is in short supply already.


Good article overall, even if i don't agree with everything mentioned. Like all games though; some will love it, while some will hate it.

Fin.

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Lawless SXE
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 2:18:49 AM
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Honestly, setting doesn't really affect me usually. I think a part of my disenchantment with RDR was the Wild West setting. For me it comes more down to the sociological themes, the characters and events of a story. If the narrative is not strong enough to carry me through, then even if has the purest backdrop of fantasy, it won't engage me. I find something funny lately though.

I used to absolutely adore spec-fi. Everything to do with it astounded me, and for a long time I thought nothing would ever surpass it in my mind. But then, I started to turn much more towards a preference for the fantasy settings. Entire worlds and universes based on their own laws of reality. And again, for a long time, I thought that fantasy was the epitome of human creativity.

Int he past two years though, I've found myself turning away from that for more realism based entertainment. Stories that are set in the real world, whether now, or in the past. It seems to allow for a much more realistic set of characters, or rather people that are easier to relate to due to the 'real-world' connection.

I still love SF and fantasy, and all that, but anything set in the real world, even if it has overtones of other genres (Stephen King's novels, Heavy Rain, and Stephen Baxter's works for example), is preferable for me now.

So, based on my personal experience, I think that you are incorrect in this assumption, but at the same time, I also know that I have a far more diverse range of tastes and a greater propensity towards tolerance and acceptance than most people I know, so I may be a bad example.

Taking myself out of the equation, and looking at other people that I know I think that, yes, as games become more and more like movies, and as the gamer base grows, we will begin to see greater fragmentations as the same expectations and biases generally attached to movies becomes more commonly attached to games. We will begin seeing people turn away from certain productions because it doesn't fit in with their 'style', rather than people simply appraising it based solely on its merits. It really is unavoidable. I don't see it happening yet though, and proof of this comes in the form of sales figures.

Surely, there can't be 18 million people that adore the Modern Warfare setting. Surely there was more to those 5.5 million people who purchased FFXIII than the dedicated fantasy lovers. I think niche titles are affected more by these preferences, as people will intentionally seek out genres and backdrops that appeal to them while avoiding those that don't.

But there is still a long way to go before story telling in games is equivalent to that found in films and novels, so I don't think the setting is as important as it will be in another five or ten years when people are sitting down to play a game that is as involved as MGS4 in its depth. The future, as always, is inscrutable.
Peace.

P.S. Does anyone else think that we REALLY need another word for video games? To me, the 'games' moniker instantly brings up connotations of youth and immaturity, and I firmly believe that most gamers have moved beyond that, thanks in large part to the explosion in popularity of the hobby. It needs to be something short and catchy. Something easy to remember that explains what the interactive entertainment experience delivers. Like my luck today, I'm sh** out of ideas.

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aaronisbla
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 4:17:13 AM
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I got this feeling the review will be similar to the Castlevania review, where he will praise the game for what its worth but will also let readers know its not his cup of tea, it'll be a fair review though

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Shams
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 6:55:14 AM

To be fair, no game is everyone's cup o'tea. And as for reviewer's tilt, it's all well and good if it should enhance a score by a bit, for the sake of promoting what is good in the industry. But it should never rob a score (w/o valid justification other than personal preference), otherwise, what's the difference between reviewer's tilt and personal bias?

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 10:23:47 AM

Actually, I love Castlevania and the themes involved. I didn't say it wasn't my thing at all.

I said the way it was structured didn't necessarily appeal to me, and the MANY smaller issues kept hindering my experience.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 10:42:36 AM

To be fair, Castlevania doesn't really start to resemble the previous titles until about 7 hours in.

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PasteNuggs
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 8:57:02 PM

Ya, it really starts to pick up after chapter 3. This coming from someone who was constantly playing/put on shelf/playing/put on shelf. Now it's just grabbing me.

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kraygen
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 4:44:41 AM
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People are about to boo me, down thumb me, and call me crazy.

However I know exactly what Ben is talking about. I love sci-fi movies, but for some strange reason have never been able to get into 90% of sci-fi games.

I will at some point play ME2, but not until I can pick it up for ps3 for $20. It's just not that big a deal to me.

More than that, I have not played Bioshock or Bioshock 2, because they don't appeal to me, I've watched a friend play them both and he's tried to convince me, but it just has no appeal to me.

Also, I will not be playing Dead Space 2, I couldn't even finish Dead Space, because I don't really enjoy horror.

One common element in all these is shooting, not a big shooter fan, some third person is a lot of fun, but not the style that DS and ME2 utilize, not for me.

I know all of these games have top notch everything, great production, graphics, story telling. They do everything right, but at the end of the day, if you don't like peanut butter, the best pb&j still has peanut butter. I still believe tho you can be objective and believe Ben will give an honest and fair review.

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Shams
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 7:10:08 AM
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Can't say I prefer the geekdom of dragons and unicorns to that of spaceships and aliens. The cover of a book alone is not enough to attract me if the content is lacking, and cannot deter me by itself if there is true substance and value to be found within.

Ain't no harm in "reviewer's tilt", if it's positive, and promotes what is good in the industry, but it shouldn't be a euphemism for personal bias that robs a game for the credit it deserves.

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Shams
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 7:46:38 AM
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I say to others, if you like Uncharted, Heavy Rain, and Ratchet & Clank, this game is a lovely medley of all 3, and definitely for you.

If you don't like one of those games, it still might be worth checking out. If you dislike 2 out of 3 or all, you'd probably might want to pass on this one.

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crunchy_nut_kid
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 8:51:29 AM
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the only way this game could be better, is if chuck norris was in it

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 10:41:46 AM
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People have mentioned GTA and I think that's the perfect analogy: how many people prefer one GTA over the other almost entirely because of the setting? When a new GTA is announced, the first and biggest topic of conversation always centers on the setting.

And that's exactly the point. In certain games where immersion is paramount, the theme is crucial. It goes double for something like ME2 that has an even bigger emphasis on the story. If the characters are aliens on a spaceship, it makes a difference, regardless of the dialogue or concepts involved.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 10:46:31 AM

This is true. I can't get into Mafia at all because I have absolutely no interest in the Mob, any Godfather movies, Casino, Sopranos, etc. It doesn't do anything for me and I don't see that changing.

But a noir tale about L.A. in the 40's? That alone makes LA Noire worth a buy to me.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 10:56:45 AM

Yeah, me too. I've never been into the mob scene, either, but L.A. Noire is a little different.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 11:02:27 AM

Let me add something about GTA:

Because, like RDR, it doesn't revolve around the storyline like Mass Effect, I could get into any of that open-world goodness. I may not LIKE a setting as much but I'd still play it.

Take San Andreas, for instance. I loved Vice City's theme but as soon as I heard the setting for SA, I knew I wouldn't like it as much. But it was still GTA...and I still loved SA. However, IF the game had been like ME; i.e., a heavy storyline about the thug life on the west coast, there's just no way I would've been able to get into it.

And that's the point.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:08:42 PM

lol, yeah I don't think I'd be all that interested in an in-depth look at thug life either. Some people might, but it's a question of demographic. That's one cool thing about GTA, it may have a storyline but how you wish to behave toward any given group or gang is kind of up to you. Like I was saying about the Mob, I don't have any trouble working for them in GTA because it is all meant to benefit my character and I don't get into the deep micromanagement of mafia affairs, I just do their wet work.

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Shams
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 4:52:12 PM

I'm not surprised.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 10:54:24 AM
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I suppose one aught to notice that there are degrees of interest in a theme as well. I love sci fi, but it sort of has to be somewhat plausible in most cases or at least presented as such for me to like it. I can't for the life of me ever appreciate something like the Stargate TV series even though I really liked the movie. Dr. Who is just a goofy mess to me along with that one Battlestar Gallactica.

Maybe our tastes are a tad too specific for any broad generalizations, but need to simply be one factor we consider (depending on how important it is to us) in considering a purchase.

I can enjoy a great story in many settings, but no matter the accolades or hype you couldn't get me to wade through a game about the Mob to experience it.

My 2 cents with a little sense.

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RadioHeader
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 1:12:07 PM

*ought*

That's for dissing Dr.Who!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 3:43:02 PM

lol, it's just a mess "to me". I'm not saying it's rubbish or anything :)

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RadioHeader
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 6:49:35 PM

Yes, I apologise. That was a wild overreaction on my part.

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Teddie9
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 12:00:51 PM
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I can't for the actual review >.<!

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Alienange
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 1:01:57 PM
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I think girls can enjoy Star Wars just as I think a boy can enjoy a "chick flick." You just have to see it for what is presented. But nobody sits and watches chick flicks or sci-fi for 40 hours straight. I think that's the difference.

What Mass Effect and games similar want us to do is delve into that universe for dozens of hours on end. When it's already not your favorite subject, you tend to get tired of it and put it down.

The focus on theme, as you say, is therefore very crucial in this generation of gaming and the ones to come. Making a game that appeals to everyone will not be enjoyed by anyone. For gaming, you have to target a certain fan base because only they will put that much commitment into your game.

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Shams
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 3:08:34 PM
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I think the true testament to the quality of a game is that despite my preference for other genres and/or themes, it still pulls me in.

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RebelJD
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 4:05:57 PM
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I'm a big fan of art, reading, and gaming. When it was originally mentioned that Mass Effect 2 would receive an interactive comic to tie the original Mass Effect storyline to to that of Mass Effect 2, I was thrilled.

At first, it was a bit hard to get over the fact that this game came out on the 360 a year ago. How can I trick myself in feeling like this is a brand new experience to me? My brother-in-law loves the series and I casually caught him play both with the notion that I could only enjoy this game if I actually played it.

I made up an excuse and told myself "It doesn't come with any pre-order perks or Limited/Collector's Edition" so it's not a launch date release for me...I can wait.

Then I saw the trailer and was impressed instantly by this world that I deserve to experience and add to my memory bank next to other awesome franchises. I support my PS3 and this title is now a part of my amazing collection. To me, this is a new experience and I'm excited to crack open the Mass Effect world on my PS3.

I was sold on Mass Effect 2 from the beginning, I don't care to play the first Mass Effect either. This game is awesome and I'm glad it's selling like hotcakes :)

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Fane1024
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 4:57:27 PM

This is a general statement and not aimed directly at Rebel.

I will never understand why anyone cares how old a game is if they personally haven't played it.

A great year-old game is still a great game. A great ten-year-old game is usually still a great game.

Do you really have the same attitude about games as teenage girls do about clothes?

OMG that's like soooo last year.

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swapnilgyani
Saturday, January 22, 2011 @ 7:57:09 PM
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Good article, and some fantastic comments too! Setting and theme does make a pretty big difference to how you perceive the game, or, in some cases, if you'll like it at all.

I personally could not get into the universally acclaimed Bioshock. The gameplay was sweet, and the story seemed to develop very well. But there was just something about that setting that turned me off.

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