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Is GTA Primed For A Big Change?

Although Grand Theft Auto IV did represent a departure of sorts with a bit more authenticity and a slightly different style of gameplay, it was still recognizable as GTA.

But might the fifth installment be something very, very different...? We all assume it'll be just like past entries only in a different location - and I can tell you right now, that's basically what the fans desire - and we often discuss possible cities. Tokyo, London, and Chicago have all been talked about but maybe we shouldn't be making assumptions. Look, two facts must be considered, and these facts may be tough to swallow for the hardcore franchise followers.

First- I don't know if you've noticed but quite a few big-name, long-running franchises have undergone significant changes this generation. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots was amazing and it remained masterful because it gave the fans the option to play MGS as they always have. However, it also offered an option for newcomers and those who don't have a lot of patience; the option to shoot their way out of most any situation. Then there's Final Fantasy XIII, and the changes and alterations evident in that installment have been outlined hundreds of times since it launched. Resident Evil actually didn't change, and look at the flak it got.

Those are just a few examples. Other smaller examples include the upcoming SSX: Deadly Descents, which will be a good deal different and maybe even unrecognizable to the fans. So this trend may affect GTA as well, although what may save the series is that it already appeals to the mainstream, right? Do we really need to change that much in this quickly changing business environment? Secondly, there's this new talk about Activision buying Take-Two Interactive...now, this might mean nothing; it might mean something. Perhaps it will have no bearing on Rockstar; maybe it just won't matter if Take-Two or Activision publishes the next GTA.

But some sort of change may take place. That's all we're saying. Therefore, maybe the new GTA title is more...well, up in the air then we had previously thought, and that's enough to give me nightmares.

2/11/2011 Ben Dutka

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Comments (48 posts)

GuernicaReborn
Friday, February 11, 2011 @ 9:41:24 PM
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If activision gets their greedy little hands on it, it'll become a multiplayer oriented FPS.

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Gabriel013
Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ 1:16:41 AM

I agree 30%.

It won't be a FPS but it will have a very strong multiplayer element to it.

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Lawless SXE
Friday, February 11, 2011 @ 9:51:36 PM
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I think that if there is a change, it will further bend in that direction of realism. Perhaps change up the mission structure, and a few other things, but it's not like it's about to turn into MW. Perhaps adding in parkour elements like AC, or platforming like Uncharted. Perhaps they will give us the option of playing in first person, ala Fallout 3. But I don't think that the idea of an antihero trying to find his place in the world will change too much.

What I'd want to see is a few scenes like Heavy Rain, in that your reflexes in QTEs have an effect on what happens. Perhaps even a branching storyline at certain points. Above all, I firmly believe that GTA will remain the same. Red Dead helps to prove that in my mind.

But does anyone else get the feeling that we won't see a new GTA for a long time. After all, Rockstar North is supposedly working on Agent, and they're the usual developers of the series. Eh, time will come.
Peace.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, February 11, 2011 @ 10:03:55 PM
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Got to disagree, I see the fans wanting a return to the off-the-wall kind of stuff instead of sticking to the "realism" added in GTAIV. This is because a lot of the fun was stripped away just like a lot of good things were stripped away in FFXIII. Also Resident Evil did change, it became a turd sans scariness/horror in favor of tense action.

If Activision gets its hands on 2K the best multiplat games this gen will die along with that walking corpse of a video game company. Bioshock without imagination, three GTA's and two RDRs per year, reskins galore. It would be a travesty.

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PasteNuggs
Friday, February 11, 2011 @ 10:23:10 PM

That's why I like the Saints Row games. Too me, it has the old school GTA feel.

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main_event05
Friday, February 11, 2011 @ 10:39:24 PM

Ahh, the good old days. GTA 1 and 2 were pure and simple fun. ah my young, old guy memories.

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spiderboi
Friday, February 11, 2011 @ 10:57:19 PM

That's probably what turned me off GTA4. It was too "real". Sure, RDR was a great capture of the old wild wild west. But that was the catch: it the the old west. Somehow, it feels wrong to integrate too much realism into this massive sandbox game that present too close to the present times. It's really bordering on being able to do what you can really do in real life. I guess not all the time realism equates to better IMO.

Realism is ok for other genre's like racing or FPS because it present the player with circumstances out of the ordinary for anyone's life. But a sandbox game, its pretty much anything you can do on real life. That's why there's always that surreal factor that has to be in place, similar to Spider-man sandbox games, Infamous etc. One may argue that "Hey, Heavy Rain is like that anyways". But my point is--what are the chances you make those (crucial) decisions on a day-to-day basis? Yet in GTA4, if I decide to just shoot someone, I just go on and do it. And for GTA4, it looks a bit too real for comfort.

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redman479
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 12:12:08 AM
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If Activision buys Take-Two I will not buy it!

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JSwayze
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 1:35:02 AM

I don't think it will happen. If I remember correctly, EA tried to buy Take-Two not to long ago and it failed

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Nerull
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 12:28:31 AM
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It was the missions that turned me off GTA4, but when I eventually got the episodes they seemed significantly better. Max Cavalara as the metal station's dj helped a tonne though.
As for the realism argument, it's true that the setting is closer to home than most games, even if it's parodied, but that's why it's an M game.
Kids shouldn't be playing but that and the media not making stuff up half the time seems to be too much to ask for.
Chances are though is someone is messed up enough to do something horrible, games were a drop in a sea of worse catalysts.

I still love the gangs from gta2 the most;
Street gangs of scientists' clones, rednecks, loonies, bonus for running down a complete conga line of elvises, and that one mission for the Russians to abduct a bus full Krishnas to turn into hot dog meat.

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Alienange
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 12:36:28 AM
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I don't get it. Why doesn't Rockstar just branch off from these unbalanced companies and self publish? They could be like Bethesda. Doing their own thing and making their own money. Of course a publisher simplifies a lot of the work for you and allows you to focus on just making good games, but when you consider just how dreadful an Activision owned Rockstar would be, well, I just couldn't fathom such a thing.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 2:18:39 AM

I was thinkin the same thing.

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Beamboom
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 2:51:17 AM

Well, in all fairness, they have not signed anything yet.

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___________
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 12:43:01 AM
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not at all, they dont need to and they know that so why would they change it?
they know they can leave it as it is and it will still break sales records, so why go to the trouble?
they could release a game of you driving around for the whole game as a taxi driver taking people places, and it would still sell millions!
............ oh wait!

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Lawless SXE
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 12:57:17 AM

GTAIV was no such thing and you know it.

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___________
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 7:12:28 AM

yea, sure!

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JSwayze
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 1:24:50 AM
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Looking at all the companies that made changes to their game due to Call of Duty wasn't that big to me but seeing what Zipper is doing to SOCOM 4, it's just jaw dropping/two middle fingers to the old fans

- No demolition
- No lean
- No grenade arch
- No lobbies
- No run to jump to climb
- Added airstrikes....gotta get five kills in a row now?
- Added over the shoulder/cover system ala Uncharted
- Added duel primary weapons....Overkill perk?
- Added golden guns and level progression unlocking....damn you COD!!!!

Sorry for the on/off topic rant

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Killa Tequilla
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 6:43:23 AM

Yea man, sad. I wanted Socom as well... But they completely changed it.

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Alienange
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 9:54:02 AM

Socom 3.5 million
Socom II 2.65 million
Socom III 1.57 million
Socom Confrontation 1.05 million

Considering "the old fans" barely give a rat's ass about Socom these days I'd say those changes you've listed are a breath of fresh air for a dying franchise.

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JSwayze
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 12:35:20 PM

@ Alienange

The reason Socom 3 didn't hit high numbers because we were still playing SC2 lol. Plus SC3 had some unwelcome changes.

Confrontation was an incomplete game that should have never been released. That's why they threw in the free bluetooth. Most definitely the only people who bought that game was the core fans who upgraded to the PS3.

We all who bought the game should have taken /6 to court, for selling us that peiece of crap

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kraygen
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 2:01:32 AM
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Honestly after GTA4 I think GTA could stand to do a little changing. How about better controls, how about a decent story.

I still don't want Activision buying them out, but I think GTA4 was a step backwards or maybe sideways because it wasn't like previous GTA's, but it wasn't better, that's for sure.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 2:19:41 AM

How about an actual hand to hand fighting mechanic? I actually stood there trying to beat that one guy in the beginning and got killed. Pathetic.

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Beamboom
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 4:44:49 AM

Yeah melee fighting has always been a chaotic affair in gta, that's true. You better stick to your guns and vehicles :)

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kraygen
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 12:09:06 PM

Yes the melee fighting is the worst. I swear there is more of a delay in GTA4's melee combat than in a kinect game.

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Beamboom
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 4:48:33 AM
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I believe GTA V will be change as much as gtaiv did from gta-sa, just in another direction. I doubt they will return to the "old" gta, they got too much pride in them to do that cause it would be like saying "gtaiv was a step in the wrong direction and we admit that now", but at the same time I think they realize that more of gtaiv would seriously harm the gta franchise.

I have high hopes for the next gta, but if that turns out to be as bad as gtaiv then they've lost me.

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JSwayze
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 6:25:26 AM

To me, GTA has always been about the crazy characters. I loved GTA4 when I was introduced to Manny "for the streets" and the steroid guy because those dudes were hilarious and kept the game fun. But when I start doing missions for the mob and the game begin to take a serious tone, I didn't want to play anymore. Had to force myself to finish

If the next GTA strive for even more seriousness, then count me out

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PAKINIPS
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 6:17:27 AM
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Just add player customisation.
The DLC added tanks and helicopters which brought back some of the fun.
I hope it changes in the way that San andreas did from vice city.

Vice city may have been the best gta IMO as far as the theme, the music, the radio, the colours were great etc. But SA stepped it up in features and fun and crazy and co op

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Killa Tequilla
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 6:36:56 AM
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No! I hope Activision dies in hell! You cannot mess with Take-Two nor Rockstar☆!

They are just very awesome developers that changed gaming as we know it...

Ben when you say "change" are you talking about gameplay change, or a new tittle every year sort-of change?

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FatherSun
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 7:08:47 AM
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GTA will continue down the realism path. If those who miss that old school Craziness scream loud enough it may be included as secondary selection from the main menu.

If Acti get there hands on it I can almost guarantee that. Ala Zombie mode.

Yep, GTA:XX: Nicos grandson answers the Call of Duty.

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Vivi_Gamer
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 7:56:52 AM
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Theres no doubt the next GTA will be different the GTA IV series is over and its now GTA V. I'm curious to see if they will focus on realism or comical value of the PS2 games. If i had to guess i would go for realism.

I'm just hoping it's more interesting, i don't know why but with GTA IV i just felt no motivation to do the side quests, once i reached the middle island, the repetition began to lure in. I enjoyed the missions, but i did not spend much time just free roaming the enviroment as much as the PS2 GTA's.

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RebelJD
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 8:53:01 AM
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Open World, great characters, great music, hilarious snippets, and GTA will go on being just as awesome as always.

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Alienange
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 9:56:41 AM

I concur. GTA has always been amazing and it will continue to be.

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crunchy_nut_kid
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 9:50:25 AM
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for some reason, each GTA seems different and unique, when really they are basically the same game. this is hard to find in a series. it would be cool if they set a game in a foreign country for a change... like australia!!

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Lord carlos
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 11:06:54 AM

it would be so censored in oz that it wouldn't be worth playing unless you import it.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 12:30:29 PM

lol carlos

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Godslim
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 10:54:57 AM
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i didnt think gta4 was that great and wish they would go back to the funny stupid stuff of the older ones tbh

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swapnilgyani
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 12:02:02 PM
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There were many things that GTAIV did quite right. I loved most of the humor, and the socializing was fun in parts. I, for one, welcome the realism as well.

That said, they do need to change the "rinse and repeat" format of story progression and mission structure. Here's what I mean:

Go to a point A on the map to get a mission

Do the mission (which may or may not be similar to the last mission, and will probably include mandatory driving)

Go to the gun shop to refill armour / ammo

Go to safehouse and save game / refill health

Go to point B on the map to get a mission

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 12:32:07 PM

I liked the realism, but I also think there needs to be crazy sh*t at least in the form of cheat codes. Such as the insane street riots, perfect driving, giving the car a jump button, jet packs, etc.

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GuyverLT
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 1:22:42 PM
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OFF TOPIC:

Ben any news on if rockstar is still making that new True Crime game. There was a trailer that featured gameplay and it actually looked pretty damn good. Any news would nice.

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matt99
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 1:24:48 PM

The article about guitar hero that Ben did a few days ago mentioned it, saying that True Crime: Hong Kong had been scrapped if I remember correctly

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GuyverLT
Sunday, February 13, 2011 @ 2:36:05 PM

Damn I just found another article on g4 saying the company confirmed that it will "stop development on True Crime: Hong Kong" citing the decision as one that would allow it to "focus on the greatest opportunities that the company currently has to create the world's best interactive entertainment experiences."

So in other words they just want to crank out more COD games which sucks ass. *sigh* Why the hell don't they pass the project on to someone else instead.

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matt99
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 1:22:49 PM
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Activision needs a shock collar that the entire gaming world can activate when it tries to ruin something awesome.

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FatherSun
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 2:43:34 PM

They would not live past the first day. Electrocution is guaranteed!

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matt99
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 3:59:45 PM

Haha, some might call that win-win.

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Bonampak
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 2:37:06 PM
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"Resident Evil actually didn't change, and look at the flak it got"


^^^ Depends who you ask.

If you ask the analysts that reviewed it, they claim the game was merely Resident Evil 4 Redux with Online Co-Op thrown in. And that's why it didn't get as much awards or recognition as RE4. Because it felt like a rehash. They also hated not being able to move and shoot. Thus it didn't change much in their opinion. Not enough.

If you ask the RE fans though, they are generally furious about the CHANGES that started with RE4 and that got worse in RE5. Changes that moved the franchise away from survival horror and turn it into a game that caters to twitch gamers.

In regards to GTA, it seems that what should worry us is that the shareholders and many analysts are presently pressuring Rockstar to make another one as soon as possible. And only to keep the brand name in the spotlight and keep it profitable. So the focus is clearly on the bottom line, not on us gamers.

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Beamboom
Sunday, February 13, 2011 @ 4:40:51 AM

Especially after having experienced the openness of San Andreas, that was kind of a "taste of freedom" that got revoked again in gtaiv.

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t4_robz
Sunday, February 13, 2011 @ 11:52:28 AM
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the CEO of "Activision" needs to be killed, i just hate them there so greedy and clearly dont know how to run their own company so the last thing we need is them to have control of the GTA series too!

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Rings0fUranus
Sunday, February 13, 2011 @ 1:15:51 PM
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Call of GTA...*shudder*
If GTA goes FPS I'll be a sad panda.

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