Call Of Duty: What Fuels The Mania?
For the record, this is not designed to incite a war between the Call of Duty followers and those who just seem morally opposed to the franchise. I'm also not asking a rhetorical question that implies the series is devoid of quality and those who play it are sheep.
This is a legitimate question. Call of Duty: Black Ops is now the most popular video game in US history, and it begs a lot of questions. Firstly, it is unfair to compare the game to Super Mario Bros., for example, simply due to the drastic difference in the industry's growth and maturity. In 1987, gaming really was for kids and it really was not a worldwide, mainstream entertainment venue. The eras just aren't comparable; millions upon millions more play games now, so comparing the numbers means nothing.
As for quality, that's always a subject of much debate, but there are two strains of thought I'm starting to dislike: 1. the idea that anything CoD beats anything else in the FPS world. The idea that it's infallible. That bugs me. But #2 bugs me almost as much: the quickly circulating idea that Call of Duty is terrible, and that the sales numbers somehow prove the gaming industry is just like the movie, music, or book industry; i.e., trash sells. That irritates me because it's insulting to gamers and it is continually proven that better quality games almost always sell quite well.
CoD isn't terrible. I gave Black Ops an 8.8 because I think it deserved an 8.8. That's hardly a bad score. Does it warrant 13.7 million sold in the US alone...? Well, no. In my eyes, that's reserved for the elite of the elite, and there aren't too many of those. Therefore, the answer to the question, "what fuels the mania?" is more complex than one might assume: the CoD games are solid, or even great in some respects, and yet, not great enough to completely account for the entire phenomenon. And you know, we should discount peer pressure...nobody plays something they don't enjoy.
Brainwashing? Eh. Like I said, who wastes hours and hours of their personal leisure time on something they don't like? But I have a bad feeling. I think I know what accounts for the much of the crowd: this generation's fascination with instant gratification. Online multiplayer is 95% of the reason CoD is what it is, and nonstop, ceaseless multiplayer action is the epitome of instant gratification. You can turn your mind off and go. We see evidence of this mental change in all corners of the industry; it seems to have affected everything, from RPGs to the "necessity" of having online multiplayer in every game made.
So yeah, it's a combination of factors. And I can live with that. ...provided the insanity doesn't infringe on the quality of my entertainment that I prefer. And I hope that doesn't happen.
3/11/2011 Ben Dutka
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Comments (167 posts)
FatherSun
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 11:54:16 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 1:19:59 AM
It really is a bad way to categorize people, by their entertainment preferences I mean. It's best just to lay complaints and critiques against the game itself if one has them. That's really my point.
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NoSmokingBandit
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 9:50:55 PM
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Regardless, after i finished KZ3 i decided i'm going to stop buying FPSs altogether. I'm tured of paying $60 for a 7-8 hour campaign. Shooters used to be long and have a great story (Red Faction, anyone?) but have recently devolved into online-centric slop.
crunchy_nut_kid
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:13:51 PM
FatherSun
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 12:00:21 AM
jimdude99
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 9:53:14 PM
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Underdog15
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:03:02 PM
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And even when it comes to the glitchiness: I know I need to expect that from games. But what I'm still really bothered by, is not the popularity, but the fact that despite how much money they make on it, they DO NOT issue firmware updates to fix the issues.
I honestly believe that if they invested more in making their titles a long term product at least 4-6 months into release, I would like it MUCH more. I just sometimes feel that annual releases prevent them from fixing any issues post release.
MW2's quick scope glitching? (Due to auto-aim malfunction) The hide-in-a-rock thing? And a bunch of other small things... just ignored. That's what keeps it from being a 9+ title for me. If multiplayer is what sells it, I don't get why people are happy to ignore their apparent lack of concern for issues. It makes it feel like they don't have pride for their product.
Aside from that gripe, I like it.
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StevieRV
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:05:13 PM
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Jawknee
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:06:20 PM
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I don't know what it is. Hard for me to see CoD only people as real gamers since they seem to lack the taste, variety and open-mindedness most of us here possess.
GuernicaReborn
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:07:34 PM
Lawless SXE
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:31:02 PM
Jawknee
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:38:33 PM
Nas Is Like
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:41:56 PM
I'm a huge, huge Call of Duty fan, yet my taste varies in music, movies and even games.
Your posts seriously annoy me.
And for someone that hates Call of Duty so much (and I'm pretty sure everyone on this site knows that), you sure do go to all Call of Duty-related articles and discussions.
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Lawless SXE
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:57:43 PM
Jawknee and I, I believe, have both made it clear in our posts here that we're referring to people that we know, and aren't making a generalisation about all CoDfans. Well, except the end of the original post, but that was a personal persepective.
And come on, the whole point of sites like this is to elicit conversation. Even if you aren't necessarily a fan of the topic at hand, you're perfectly entitled to throw your opinion up on the board, are you not?
Peace.
Jawknee
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 11:05:34 PM
rogers71
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 12:02:46 AM
I really like how, based on your post, anyone that doesn't like what you like is a mindless pothead.
I like all the bands that you listed above but I also LOVE lincoln park.
I like all the games that you listed above but I also LOVE the cod games.
Everyone has there likes and dislikes and just because someone differs from you and your opinion doesn't mean they lack taste or variety.
I have a friend that will not try Uncharted or Dead Space because the controls differ from COD. He only likes the control setup and first person mode of COD. He is a college graduate, very successful and highly intelligent. He just has his mind made up about what he likes. I don't ridicule him for his tastes. That is what makes the world what it is. Differing points of view.
Just my take on this topic and since I don't agree with you, I will go tell my mommy to lay out my clothes and hit the bong. Good day:)
Jawknee
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 12:11:42 AM
Once again...IT'S AN OBSERVATION I MADE IN MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIANCE! NOT concrete evidence now relax. You're acting like a whiney baby. Maybe your mommy should teach you not to get butthurt over random comments on the Internet.
Underdog15
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 12:48:24 AM
I would never outright say that it might not be a coincidence! That would be silly of me to assume that just because I have the exact same experience as Jawknee with many people that there might be some merit.
Don't worry, I would never say that!
lol, all jokes, of course. I play CoD with friends, although not in the last month or so.
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D1g1tal5torm
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 4:49:19 AM
Jawknee
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 4:52:26 AM
D1g1tal5torm
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 5:03:05 AM
Lawless SXE
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 5:20:29 AM
Godslim
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 6:04:15 AM
Jawknee
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 11:15:21 AM
AcHiLLiA
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 1:46:13 PM
NiteKrawler
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 2:35:57 PM
P.S. I do like Linkin Park a lot.
Jawknee
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 2:52:50 PM
For the last time, READ THE FREAKING POST! "Played" and "Play" are two different words. One meaning pasted tense the other not. Yes I have PLAYED Call of Duty, that doesn't not mean STILL PLAY it or will play it in the future. Also as Lawless pointed out, playing something "RELIGIOUSLY" is not the same as just "PLAY". One implies that thats all one played while the other doesn't.
Seriously, is a English lesson really necessary? Do you really not understand the words in front of you or are you just willfully ignoring what them so you can give yourself a reason to continuing flaming me like a child? I have made myself perfectly clear.
Also like NiteKrawler said,(as have I, numerous times) my opinion is based on my own PERSONAL experience. Do I know any of you personally? Obviously not so don't be so quick to assume I am talking about you. You're not that special, get over yourselves.
AcHiLLiA
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 4:10:22 PM
Jawknee
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 4:41:09 PM
Underdog15
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 5:51:48 PM
AcHiLLiA
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 8:22:49 PM
Nas Is Like
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 11:59:20 PM
D1g1tal5torm
Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 7:13:47 AM
Jawknee
Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 2:23:22 PM
D1g1tal5torm
Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 2:36:04 PM
Underdog15
Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 2:57:24 PM
It makes me want to bash my face with an iron pipe. It'll hurt less than reading your conversation again. It's that miscommunication and lack of attention to detail that causes the US to experience over a 50% divorce rate. lol
D1g1tal5torm
Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 5:14:15 PM
In his limited experience knowing the very small portion of the 13.7 million people who play cod - he has formed an opinion.
Now in his view that's fair enough - but to slate people for enjoying a game of their choosing because they dont want to play a different one,does that really require him to be immature?
I think not.
What it should be about, is the freedom for people to pick and choose what they like to play. This is a fairly base principle.
The only think with Jawk is that his history preceeds him.
He writes about Cod as though it is the devils spawn, yet he has played mw1 and mw2 fairly extensively by all accounts. He should therefore understand that people do get enjoyment out of it, even if he is too short-sighted to see that himself now.
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Underdog15
Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 5:38:56 PM
I get what you're saying too, and it is silly to lump everyone together, but there is a group that fits his description, and it isn't tiny. It certainly isn't the majority, but substantial enough that he would not be the only one out there to draw such conclusions.
I think it would have been far more fair for him to say that pot-heads and those not versed in art forms tend to love CoD. NOT CoD lovers are pot-heads and lack artistic abilities.
You know? Anyways, I think it's obvious that anyone who likes CoD isn't necessarily any or all of what Jawk said. But I can certainly tell you what game the oxy and pot dealers/doers in the town I work in play. They talk about it 24/7 when not dealing. (When working with impoverished youth, you run into these types.) >.<
Anyways, that's what I understood about what he was saying. Does that make sense? I'm definitely NOT saying if you love CoD you therefore are trash.
D1g1tal5torm
Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 5:46:06 PM
D1g1tal5torm
Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 7:10:39 PM
Jawknee
Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 7:56:05 PM
D1g1tal5torm
Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 8:02:30 PM
Jawknee
Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 8:30:55 PM
NiteKrawler
Monday, March 14, 2011 @ 9:21:17 PM
GuernicaReborn
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:06:25 PM
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I always thought that alot of the popularity came about because it was taken out of WWII and thrust into the modern day. There was really nothing wrong with graphics or gameplay, and the multiplayer was very accessible. Activision marketed it well, and the quality, more or less, has stayed constant throughout the series. Factor in the instant gratification that you spoke of, and those are all the reasons I can see for the CoD franchise to be selling like it is.
Like em or not, Activision knew exactly what they had, how to market it and how to keep it in the headlines. If only it was something other than a twitchy FPS, but I dream...
Godslim
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 6:06:20 AM
Riku994
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:07:27 PM
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This brings me to another point which I wanted to bring up in a previous article but wasn't feeling the writing mood. Bulletstorm. I believe it's doing so poorly because it's trying to appeal to the crowd of people who play "boring" shooters, when they should be trying to impress the fans of such games like Borderlands, which I for one absolutely adore. This game is doing badly in sales because the game isn't exactly what CoD fans want... Which is CoD. It's not what Halo fans want, which is Halo. It actually appears to have a storyline from what I've seen, and if a shooter doesn't have the title "Call of Duty" or "Halo" in it at this point, chances are it will do badly. The acception to this I believe is Borderlands, as mentioned above, because it's a good quality game appealing to the right crowd. As one who doesn't like shooters, I really like Borderlands.
TL;DR, CoD annoys me and Borderlands is great.
Lawless SXE
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:27:27 PM
FatherSun
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 12:08:49 AM
SvenMD
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 9:50:06 AM
dork02840
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:07:40 PM
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i myself do not like call of duty. i can site several games of this generation FPS that i like more then CoD. Killzone, Wolfenstein, Clive Barkers Jericho. the only FPS that i have not been able to get behind are CoD and Resistance. i find them to be beaten to death genres: war/battle and zombie/undead/alien invasion. i have not beaten a single FPS since Doom 1. they do not hold my interest. the only game that came close was killzone 2. i am hoping Rage fills the void left by Doom of mindless evil FPS.
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:24:32 PM
Lawless SXE
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:36:08 PM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 10:03:34 AM
Lawless SXE
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:11:30 PM
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One is less brand recognition, and (keep in mind I'm assuming that most people that play FPS games play them for the multiplayer) if you're going to play online with someone, or talk about your experiences offline, the better choice is to go with the one that everyone knows, rather than that other one that no-one that you personally know has tried. Another, I'd imagine, is less informed consumers. The world is a democracy, and that means that what is most popular must be the best (not my philosophy; I can't rightly remember where I heard it). So, as more people buy it and word of mouth spreads, it becomes like a viral outbreak. There is nothing to stop it.
But you have to look at the root cause, not what there is today. How did CoD come to single itself out from the crowd with Modern Warfare? How did it take a hold of the public imagination, and create that initial, powerful fanbase? I hardly think that the idea of instant gratification had anything to do with it. More that, at the time, a modern war scenario was fresh and different. It offered something different to everything else on the market, and made people take notice. This, coupled with a strong advertising campaign helped to create the demand for it, which has since only grown as word of mouth has spread and the advertising has grown ever more abundant.
Just my take.
Peace.
AnonWTF
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:32:35 PM
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A guy at my work place one time was telling me how there are much better smart phones out there than the iphone. It is more of a status/fad thing to get it and it was awesome when it first came out compared to the rest of the market. You also have to factor in the popularity of the companies name (the people who are making it).
I don't know how much of this true nor do I have anything to back it up with, but when he told this to me. It sounded like it made since. So that is what I'm basically comparing to the COD phenomon or however you freaking spell the word.
I've never been into war games that much, I remember playing full spectrum warriors ten hammer and just not liking it at all. Everyone got different tastes.
Lawless SXE
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:52:14 PM
It could well be a fad, but if so, don't you think that people would be starting to get burnt out on it after four years? Sure, there are still people getting into gaming, and so the latest will be their first, but it's not an exponential growth. Besides, the very concept of a fad ties back to popularity and peer pressure. This might be enough to get someone into it the first time, but if they don't enjoy it, why would they go back time and time again?
AnonWTF
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 9:58:17 PM
Lawless SXE
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 10:04:34 PM
Cabalavatar1
Monday, March 14, 2011 @ 4:19:35 PM
At least in academia, where so much of the politically correct vernacular derives from, "queer" is actually the more appropriate term for non-heterosexual sexual proclivities. In fact, it's become such a pervasive term that "Queer Theory" is the official terminology for all theory and literature on the topic of non-heterosexual sexualities.
I don't mean to suggest that your reservations about the usage of such a term ("queer") are wrong, per se, but bear in mind that in the field in which it's most frequently openly discussed, "queer" is most CERTAINLY an acceptable and even preferable term.
A2K78
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:40:40 PM
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Overall speaking of the FPS genre, the Crysis franchise beats everything out and why? It has something to with the fact that the developers really took time make sure the games aren't the "me-too" type of shooter.
"COD could also just be a status or fad."
COD a fad? to non-PC gamers,yeah, but if you want to see a fad when it come to FPSs when Killzone, Halo, and Resistance are the fads.
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Jawknee
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 11:14:39 PM
sawao_yamanaka
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 2:38:25 AM
Bugzbunny109
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:41:52 PM
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Nas Is Like
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 10:47:03 PM
MadPowerBomber
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 2:54:37 AM
The engine may be the same, but there have been some drastic improvements in the visuals department between the two games; especially where facial animation is concerned. The explosions, the environments -- and atmosphere of those environments -- have all been improved.
NoSmokingBandit
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 10:30:02 AM
Underdog15
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 12:40:40 PM
In the broad spectrum of gaming, however, going back to Black Ops after playing KZ3, you notice the difference. I'm not flaming, just being honest. There's a HUGE difference. You'd be silly to think otherwise.
ColTater
Monday, March 14, 2011 @ 3:36:53 PM
Same gameplay, same gameplay, same gameplay, same gameplay,same gameplay. BORING! Oh, not to the ADHD/ADD twitchers.
tes37
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 11:06:35 PM
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Reading articles and comments from Ben and the community of gamers here at PSXE, is what convinced me to try the genre again after 15 years. What I gather from it all, is that I would most likely remain okay with FPS's if I stick to Sony exclusives.
Call Of Duty may be popular, but I feel like I should continue to avoid Activision for the time being. Sony's pumping out the games too quickly for me to consider giving very much money to developers and publishers who don't push the PS3 harder.
As much negative press as Activision gets, I'm kind of surprised it doesn't impact sales. I guess people aren't blaming the developer for the actions of the publisher and for the most part that's fair.
It's possible that being at war for the last two decades has helped with the franchise's huge sales. Guns are popular among Americans and I know I don't ever pass up a chance to go target shooting. Games are are the next best thing if you can't wrap your hands around some nice weapons.
Jawknee
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 11:11:21 PM
tes37
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 11:19:11 PM
Jawknee
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 11:23:43 PM
tes37
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 12:52:52 AM
Jawknee
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 1:15:35 AM
Godslim
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 6:10:16 AM
Lawless SXE
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 6:45:18 AM
Godslim
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 7:46:47 AM
Jawknee
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 11:18:12 AM
tes37
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 1:31:11 PM
Godslim
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 2:33:51 PM
Jawknee
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 2:55:37 PM
"Why do you care so much" how we spend our money?
Yea, you see what I did there?
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Underdog15
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 6:03:11 PM
See below my response to Alienage's post. I clearly indicate that in and of itself, CoD almost acts as a pioneer to multiplayer gaming. And I give it just due for what it's great for.
But look at my complaints. It has nothing to do with the gameplay or graphics. I think my issues are closely related to Jawknee's. I find it hard to believe that most people don't experience the same frustrations I do.
PasteNuggs
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 7:56:47 PM
Boycotting products is not that uncommon, not just in games, but other businesses as well. You can't blame people for not wanting to buy a game that does nothing to improve it's self. In this age of gaming there are so many quality titles that educated people are obviously going to reward the developers who always try to improve upon their foundation instead of reskinning their games. Everything about Black Ops is changed to fit the era but it all has the same function as MW2.
If ND didn't do what they did from UC1 to UC2 they would be bashed upon just as much as anyone else. But they strive to give us the best product on the market and currently they are doing it and I expect UC3 will be even more of an improvement.
Godslim
Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 1:38:42 PM
Godslim
Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 1:42:02 PM
Jawknee
Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 2:25:47 PM
Yet you continue to reward this buy continuing to buy their games. Do you really not see how you are contradicting yourself? You want them to improve, yet you keep rewarding their non improvements.
::facepalm::
Godslim
Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 6:00:25 PM
kaygee_96
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 11:28:26 PM
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Clamedeus
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 10:57:27 AM
Mind you it happens once in awhile but when it happens it's annoying, in some cases it'll happen a lot unexpected.
I don't have anything against COD, i play it once in awhile with buddies but, it has problems that need to be fixed.
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Bonampak
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 11:32:39 PM
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I dunno if that's fair to bundle all those sales numbers that way... Because in some cases, those games were technically different. They only happen to share the same title.
It would be like Nintendo claiming that Mario is the best selling game ever, by combining the sales numbers of every Mario game ever sold in the US. How fair would that be?
I think a clue to Ben's question in regard to the enigmatic popularity of Black Ops, is given by the 2nd best selling game in the US: Wii Play.
It's merely a popular fad that has been eagerly adopted by millions of mainstream consumers.
And that is also hard evidence of how much power such a type of consumer currently holds in the US.
For better or for worse. That's how it is.
Jawknee
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 11:37:48 PM
Bonampak
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 4:14:20 PM
That was fine by them.
Yet consider this:
They disqualified Wii Sports from being considered, because it was bundled with the Wii in the US.
So Black Ops COMBINED numbers can be bundled together, but Wii Sports is eliminated because it was sold as a bundle with the Wii.
That's why I call shenanigans on all that "best selling game in US history" headline.
LightShow
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 11:40:44 PM
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COD used to be on the leading edge. now people dont bother to try something else because theres a learning curve when coming off COD. seeing as how each COD game plays the same as the one before it, you can play a brand new game without having to learn a brand new game. for more examples, see the Madden and Guitar Hero franchises.
just2skillf00l
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 11:55:24 PM
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The problem I have with the developers is that it seems like they don't care as much about its fans as other developers like ND and GG does. Sure they give us another game every year but its just the same ol. They don't know how to WOW the crowd they just go on dishing out a slightly-better-heavily-familiar-last-year's-model. And for most people that's ok.
The sad thing is that it is ok. It's ok for a game that could be unforgettably amazing to be just grood (a mishmash of good and great). That's what keeps people coming back for more. Grood. A company that takes minimal if no risks at all and makes billions. I find it to be a very low bar to set for such an influential element to the gaming industry. It's making people like Ueda want a piece-a-dat.
But no one can do what COD does better than COD. And what do they do? Bring you back for more of the semi-same. Same feel...new background. Grood stuff!
Alienange
Friday, March 11, 2011 @ 11:59:43 PM
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CoD was nothing special either until CoD4 where gamers could see for themselves(in some rather brilliant advertising) that the game was going to offer them something they could relate to. Something they did NOT already have. No space marines, no demons from hell, no earth invasion, just guns and online battles in some of the best designed multiplayer maps we've ever seen.
Nobody wants to run around online with the super-shock-rocket-lock weapon of destruction from some silly sci-fi game setting. As a friend of mine once said, "CoD makes you feel like you're GI Joe." The sounds, graphics and action all combine to make you feel like a hero. And that's what the huge fps crowd wants.
Underdog15
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 5:59:38 PM
I've never said, personally, that CoD's multiplayer is bad in and of itself. (I'm not saying you were saying I or anyone said otherwise, lol) I think it works very well, and there are some things many games could learn from it, and in fact, it could probably be said that CoD has pioneered much of the preferred online gaming styles of today.
What I still take issue with is the lack of reliability in the multiplayer. The reason I don't play Black Ops online anymore is because I'm sick of being frustrated of problems complete unrelated to the intended design of what the experience should be, if it were bug free. For me, over time, these many many bugs and unreliability and the lack of region restriction or the terrible host selection, some nights become unbearable to the point we just quit for the night prematurely.
Honestly, if it was done much much better, and if they would support the game enough to fix the issues, I would likely be willing to call it THE best console experience.
As is now, I just can't play it for long before getting angry at the inability to finish matches or restrict people with bad connections. It's the lack of support the top selling game has, that lesser selling games seem to provide that make it an unfavorable experience for me.
And that is why I dislike the mania. I really don't feel Activision and devs for their games will ever step it up... because people support their product whether they support it or not. I guess I just feel they limit themselves and that CoD will never be what it could/should be.
___________
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 12:22:51 AM
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its MP is plainly the best out there!
its supported really well, the devs give it heaps of attention, there constantly having competitions, there constantly having double XP weekends, theres heaps of map packs.
few games get these, most release and get dev support for a few weeks then the crickets start flowing in.
this though, well, look at MW2.
over a year and a half old, and its still one of the most played games!
hell IW just released a patch for it!
when was the last time you heard a dev release a patch for a 1.5+ year old ps3 game?
only if sony supported their games that well!
Qubex
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 2:17:36 AM
___________
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 8:10:11 AM
MAGs ok, but gets frustrating spending 20 minutes traveling to the objective, dying and having to spend another 20 traveling back.
you spend more time traveling to objectives, then you do doing them!
that and every game i entered, no one would bother doing the objectives id be the only one there so i just gave up.
if i had a penny for every time i went to defend a base, and was the only one of my team mates there id be a multimillionaire by now!
Dancemachine55
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 12:34:22 AM
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I still believe it was the best in the series. Great story variation in gameplay. Excellent action moments. Tight controls and good mechanics.
This quality title opened up many people to console FPS, especially with split-screen mulitplayer thrown in for fun parties.
When people buy new iterations of the franchise, they know they are buying the same quality standard that CoD 4 set.
In my opinion, MW2 was a huge disappointment, nothing new with Multiplayer and the campaign was horrendously short, and poorly paced. It was clearly an Activision cash-in, but the masses still bought it. Why? Cos it was the sequel to the best game of 2006, and people wanted more. Can you blame them?
Only reason I got Black Ops was cos I didn't have a CoD on my 360, my friends were all getting it on their 360's AND I heard there were fun improvements to the multiplayer, like one in the chamber, explosive RC cars and balanced perks.
I think that CoD mania will continue for some time until something better comes out OR Activision does the unthinkable, cancels the yearly installment and works on a new CoD with a new engine, graphics, physics, gameplay and setting.
It really is such a shame that people don't see the fun and quality games like Killzone 3 or Bulletstorm being much more fun and rewarding, but I like that difference and I got both games.
Quite frankly, me and many of my friends are over CoD. We've all agreed to stick with Black Ops and move on to Battlefield 3, and not bother with MW3 or any other CoD project in the works.
And finally, just to be clear, I don't hate CoD. I think it is a very good game. Just not the best, the deepest or the most fun. Deepest I give to Borderlands. Best I give to Killzone 2 and 3. Most fun I give to Bulletstorm.
What I hate is that so many people claim that it is the best when they haven't even tried other quality titles, and don't even bother trying it with an open mind. It's always about how similar or different it is to CoD, and that just makes me mad!!!
Qubex
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 2:18:48 AM
Dancemachine55
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 3:54:45 AM
AND most importantly, a long and highly satisfying single player campaign. Look at Uncharted 2. It had multiplayer but what sold people on it was it's fantastic single player campaign!! Single player lovers like myself are not being left out, Sony is already seeing to it.
Godslim
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 6:07:38 AM
This quality title opened up many people to console FPS, especially with split-screen mulitplayer thrown in for fun parties. "
have to aggree man!
Temjin001
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 2:15:06 AM
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online connectivity: it's united gamers abroad in a competitive environment for seemingly infinite game play. The online competitive console boom happened with Xbox LIVE. I see this consumer entertainment paradigm similarly to the Wii motion controller craze but targeted at different demographics. Social structures, whether it be videogames and social communication sites like Facebook, youTube, Twitter, WoW, and CoD etc serve as a centralized hubs for each of their respective markets.
subject matter: WW2/Middle_Eastern conflict/NAM are all iconic in American history and it serves as an easily identifiable impetus for far reaching social attraction.
doh! out of time. I'll just post what I've done.
Good night y'all!
Excelsior1
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 2:15:15 AM
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Qubex
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 2:21:00 AM
Lawless SXE
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 3:18:51 AM
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Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 3:56:41 AM
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Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 10:14:02 AM
karneli lll
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 2:27:51 AM
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Dancemachine55
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 4:03:05 AM
Introducing casual gamers is what made this gaming industry into the gargantuan mega industry that it is today. The Wii opened up a lot of people to gaming, people who would probably never hold a controller in their life!!!
It is a slow but steady transition of video games becoming the new medium of entertainment and story-telling for all. So long as the hardcore crowd lives, there will be great games like Uncharted, Killzone, Dead Space, Assassin's Creed, Demon's Souls, Dragon Age, etc.
It's just that it will be sharing shelf space and digital server space with casual games like Farmville, Guitar Hero, Call of Duty, Wii Sports and so on.
It's not a bad thing. The industry is just growing to adopt a larger variety of audiences. Who knows? Maybe a large amount might carry over into supporting hardcore games like the ones I listed above?
karneli lll
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 5:03:30 AM
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Alienange
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 11:23:10 AM
Bonampak
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 4:25:33 PM
Madworld was a crappy game. Period. And I bet that it wouldn't have sold more on the PS3. Since we PS3 users are more aware about what we buy. Madworld was just too short and repetitive. So I don't think it can be fairly used as an example of a core game failing on the Wii. It was a low budget broken game with little value. So it deserved the sales it got.
Fact is, there are almost no AAA core game produced for the Wii. At least coming from 3rd parties. Most of their efforts are half-bake crap-fest. All of the big core games have gone to the PS3 and 360.
There have been some 3rd party success stories on the Wii, though. Goldeneye 007 already sold a million units (that's quite an achievement on the Wii). The CoD games on the Wii are also a perfect example of games that sell well in that console (Black Ops sold 2 million on the Wii)
And Nintendo has always managed to produce core games that have sold millions. Mario, Zelda, Metroid and lately, Donkey Kong Country Returns which has sold like 4.4 million units. So that means that it does have a core gamer user base.
On the casual front, lets not forget that Sony did that first. Not Nintendo. Sony branched out to reach non-gamers and mainstream audiences first, back in the PS1 and PS2 days.
MadPowerBomber
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 2:57:07 AM
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Call of Duty is a social game, for the most part. That's what keeps it going.
D1g1tal5torm
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 3:17:01 AM
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It instant gratification, bit then there is nothing wron with that.
Personally, I don't have the time anymore to devote hours of my time to gaming. I only play hardcore s&d, which to me involves tactics as opposed to just running round shooting.
Peace out CoD haters
Ignitus
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 3:47:47 AM
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Of all the FPS games that I have played, Halo is king, specially Halo 3, I just kept coming back for more online multiplayer bacause I found it so much fun. Nowdays, with my live gold suscription expired (and no plans to renew it while it has a fee), no more online multiplayer on the 360. Now I do my online multiplayer on the PS3 but I still haven't found a FPS as fun as Halo. That being the case I'm looking forward to bungie's new multiplat game.
Clamedeus
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 11:35:52 AM
I've only played 1 and 2, but from the game play i have seen of the new ones it doesn't seem like it would make me want to play the new ones. It was fun mind you, but it can only keep you from playing for so long. One part i didn't like though is that people take too many shots to kill, that's one of the parts i didn't like about it.
It takes like 2 whole clips almost to kill him, i could see 7 shots maybe but it's too many.
Cesar_ser_4
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 4:43:38 AM
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BlueJelloXIII
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 6:44:50 AM
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As much as some people dislike them, first person perspective games are the some of the biggest titles out there. From Halo, Killzone, Bulletstorm, Battlefield, Medal of Honor to Fallout and Elder Scrolls. These titles account for huge sales across all platforms.
Then you have the online multiplayer aspect. Like has been mentioned quite a bit some people just want to sit for hours upon hours killing each other. It's not really my cup of tea, but I understand the appeal.
Next consider single player campaigns. They need to be short enough for people to finish, and exciting and action oriented enough to make people want to finish them.
How about brand recognition? The name of the game can be what sells. If your mother, brother, father, sister, girlfriend, wife, etc has heard of the game it's more likely to end up a birthday/christmas present. When you have total market penetration by being on every console imaginable it makes it easier for these people to pick up the game. "Halo, yeah I've heard of that game! It's supposed to be really good but it's not available for Bobby's DS?" So when these customers are out searching the racks for a present the brand recognition is what's going to pop out at them.
I think of movies when I think of COD. Like Transformers 2 and Star Wars the Phantom Menace. No one will ever argue that these are great (or even good in some aspects) movies. Yet they sit in the top 25 grossing movies of all time. They have CGI, huge budgets, explosions, hot chicks running in slow motion and a excitement about them. When Jack and Diane are headed to the cineplex on a Saturday afternoon they're usually gonna go for the movie that looks the most fun, that they'll lose themselves for a few hours and maybe get some laughs and enjoyment out of.
And that's the last thing. Fun. When you have a game like COD with all it's different modes, especially Black Ops, there is really something for everyone. You have a action packed campaign, online multiplayer, zombies mode, zombies arcade mode & zork all one one game disc. You're bound to find something on there that strikes your fancy.
I think this series is just engineered to sell well. It hits as many big points of a bestseller that it can to move product. And I think the numbers prove that. Without bringing personal feelings about the series or the publisher in, it's hard not to see that. In the end they have a game disc that will appeal to a wider range of people, with the ability for everyone to play it.
Sorry for the length of this post but this is honestly a subject I've thought about for awhile. I find myself purchasing these games every year despite the feeling that I'm helping a series that doesn't deserve all the accolades it receives. I only play the games for their campaign which, while not the best, are definitely fun ways to kill a few hours. Thank you for anyone who took the time to read all of this. I hope you enjoy your days and keep enjoying yourselves and your gaming experiences.
Lawless SXE
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 6:50:08 AM
Dancemachine55
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 7:31:08 AM
Regardless of how you feel about the franchise, there is no denying the brand power, casual or hardcore gameplay and success behind this series.
I think you did a great job pointing out why this game is so popular without letting personal feelings or bias get in the way. Bravo!
And while black ops wasn't up for any GOTY awards, it definitely has everything needed to attract all types of gamers to it. It's the game for nearly everyone, but I think one of the biggest points you left out was the importance of peer selection. CoD is popular because you know it's what your friends will be playing so it's pretty obvious that if you wish to play with or against friends, you go with the most popular option and get what everyone else is playing.
BlueJelloXIII
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 8:03:54 AM
I did indeed forget to mention the peer aspect. How many of us are interested by things our friends are talking about? I know if everyone I know is talking about the snowmobile or airport (I know not Black Ops, but just as an example) scenes, it makes me interested in experiencing them for myself. I was able to hold off on Black Ops for a whole 3 days until just hearing about it was no longer enough for me. So yes, you are definitely correct in this point and I can't believe I left it off. Thank you again folks.
Beamboom
Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 1:44:15 PM
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Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 8:28:59 AM
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Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 8:37:24 AM
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Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 9:17:09 AM
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Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 10:37:07 AM
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Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 1:24:42 PM
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for it to be the game with the most sales i think its like you acknowledge the age group of gamers is larger than what it was in the mario days. now that consoles also have other entertainment options i think all age groups are purchasing consoles now. for folks that buy consoles for other purposes when they decide to purchase a game i think they go by word of mouth or what they see on tv & damn near everybody right now is looking for games that have multilayer.
the idea of being in a virtual battlefield with some tools they probably wish they had or thought bout buying & the task being compete with others around the world for a rank..... is the cause for these sales.
i have mw & mw2 but didnt buy blk ops & wont be buying another cod untill i see major improvments gameplay wise.
its the top selling game now but i put $$$$ on it if GTA5 stays with the same blueprint it will takeover CODBO.
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Saturday, March 12, 2011 @ 2:23:28 PM
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Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 9:35:16 PM
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Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 4:57:52 AM
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STOP supporting IP Fatigue, try other games like gt5, lords of shadow, or pixel junk shooter 2. You don't have to be a trendy gamer, supporting other games is true innovation.
KingFate
Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 10:46:18 AM
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I mean it's not a terrible game by any means, but it's not a good game either. It's just a game that anyone can pick up and play and be relatively decent. I think that's the appeal, now I do much prefer shooters in the vein of Bioshock it's a reminder of the FPSes I grew up playing where atmosphere was the #1 thing.
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Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 2:29:11 PM
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azarel_7
Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 3:41:16 PM
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You can play with multiple friends. Each game has several guns, several stages, each of which can be played in a different way...plus you can play against people 24/7..its easy to find lobbies online.
So its simple to pick up, but still can be very varied in a number of different ways, plus the sheer thrill of playing against other people just makes each iteration popular..
Darkus
Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 5:18:09 PM
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Not trying to bait anyone but i enjoyed the early jawknee back and forth comments. when i first read what he said i thought it was a bit generalised and offensive but it is his personal opinion, and one that i think i share!
i have not played black ops but have played all other CODs on ps2 or 3. i have put this on other threads but the main reason i wont buy black ops is because everyone else has - i am not a follower by nature (rubiks cube, skateboard etc). my 9 yr old son wants me to get it because all his friends have it. its an adult game! but this may answer the original thread of why so many people buy it. we are social and want to play with our friends, so as someone said previously, yes its a virus. i am tempted as my friends have it but luckily i have persuaded some of them to buy BF2. no lie, but the friends that have BF2 no longer play black ops. does it make BF2 better? subjective as we all like different things, but i think it does. it is a much more balanced enjoyable experience.
some of the other reasons i got fed up with MW1 and 2 were :- so narced at the constant verbal abuse, hence i think jawknee is right about the IQ of a lot of players, they think it makes them clever to swear at others, duhhh; my friends and i were always getting kicked out of games due to connection - i realise this may be because of the volume of people playing but come on, get it sorted; i might have been a rubbish player but i found i was playing spawn and die games - not enjoyable.
BF2 is not perfect and there can be the odd game when you are thrashing others or being thrashed. i dont enjoy either as i like close competition. if my side is thrashing the others i will just as likely leave as when i am being owned. However, i dont have the same problems in BF2 as i did with the COD online experiences. i bought the game a year ago and play it still as if its new. that has never happended with any other game i own. however, everyone talks abot black ops (even those that have not played it), only people who own BF2 know how good it is.
Godslim
Sunday, March 13, 2011 @ 6:06:16 PM
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At least in academia, where so much of the politically correct vernacular derives from, "queer" is actually the more appropriate term for non-heterosexual sexual proclivities. In fact, it's become such a pervasive term that "Queer Theory" is the official terminology for all theory and literature on the topic of non-heterosexual sexualities.
I don't mean to suggest that your reservations about the usage of such a term ("queer") are wrong, per se, but bear in mind that in the field in which it's most frequently openly discussed, "queer" is most CERTAINLY an acceptable and even preferable term.
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