We Need More Than Silence On This PSN Issue

So the PlayStation Network has been down for a couple days now and although that is troubling, it isn't half as troubling as Sony's silence.

Thus far, we've received only one brief official statement from Sony concerning this major problem, and that hasn't been altered or updated in any way yet. The post at the Blog even asks us to "stay tuned to this space for more details" but those details just haven't arrived. All we have are a few rumors concerning the cause; some say it's due to the issue in Japan while others blame the infamous hacking group, Anonymous (who have denied responsibility).

Therefore, we - and every last PSN user out there - know absolutely nothing.

While it's certainly true that a few days isn't the end of the world, few will view this scenario as a "no news is good news" situation. In fact, from the viewpoint of the astute video game consumer, no news is nothing but bad news when it comes to such problems. Sony should know that. And no matter how terrible the nightmare is, we deserve to know at least a little something about it. Even if we don't get it back for a week or more, it would be highly beneficial from a PR standpoint to inform the millions of PSN users around the globe.

Even a vague estimate would work wonders because as far as many are concerned, silence is the absolute worst philosophy right now. Sony has always been communicative in regards to their fans and therefore, those fans have come to expect an up-front statement and a continual string of updates. We don't need to know every last technical detail, but we certainly could use a longer, more detailed apology and a "here's where we're at" update. In short- Sony, you need to speak up and say something. Anything.

4/22/2011 Ben Dutka

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TheCrazyMerc
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 8:22:31 PM
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Thumbs up if you want to get online on PSN already!

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Killa Tequilla
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:03:45 PM

What really happened

"An external intrusion on our system has affected our PlayStation Network and Qriocity services. In order to conduct a thorough investigation and to verify the smooth and secure operation of our network services going forward, we turned off PlayStation Network & Qriocity services on the evening of Wednesday, April 20th. Providing quality entertainment services to our customers and partners is our utmost priority. We are doing all we can to resolve this situation quickly, and we once again thank you for your patience. We will continue to update you promptly as we have additional information to share."

Last edited by Killa Tequilla on 4/22/2011 10:04:46 PM

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Dancemachine55
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:27:08 PM

UPDATE!!!

Got this from IGN. Spokesperson from Sony has said that it IS an external intrusion (or hacker) who invaded the PSN and Qriosity services.

Sony maunually shut down the network on Wednesday night around 8pm as a means to secure PSN and perform a full investigation.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 11:44:26 PM

Your comment has revealed the xbots.

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Danny007
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 8:23:07 PM
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I hope this is just a plan to add cross game chat to the PS3

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JMO_INDY
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 8:29:11 PM

SMH... let it go... just let it go.

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LittleBigMidget
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 8:46:26 PM

lmao

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Dancemachine55
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:07:57 PM

Even if Sony were to add cross-game chat, I doubt this would be the way they'd do it.

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JMO_INDY
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 8:24:05 PM
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I think we as the consumer and loyal fan base has been more than vocal on this situation, I think we deserve a little answer or two on this as well; it's not fair to be kept in the dark. It's like if Facebook just went offline and a word was never spoken, you'd be shutting off a huge demographic of people, and yes I know the majority of you don't like the website but that's not my point. The point is, with a service this large, we deserve to know what is happening, especially if some of us are paying for a membership (PS+)

Though on the other hand I don't think it's right for us to get up in arms for a service that is free to all, and about a problem we know nothing about nor how to fix it. But that's just the problem isn't it, we know nothing.

Last edited by JMO_INDY on 4/22/2011 8:27:59 PM

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DazeOfWar
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 8:26:28 PM
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It sucks but I'm not to worried about it. Sony does need to give us some more info as to what is going on. I really would like to play some Socom online. I also wanted to pick up a few more games from the PSN store.

The good thing about this is that I can actually work on some single player stuff I have on backlog. I'm almost finished with Uncharted 1 on crushing to earn my Platinum.

Hopefully we'll hear something soon.

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DazeOfWar
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:35:06 PM

Well just finished crushing. One new shining platinum trophy for me. Now onto something else.

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Danny007
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 8:32:04 PM
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By the way Ben, I like the picture selection you chose for this article.

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BikerSaint
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 8:32:26 PM
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Amen Ben!
And this couldn't come at a worse time, it's a holiday weekend when people will probably be home, along with the Home 1.5 update, Steam integration, Portal, Somcom 4, & Mortal Kombat that gamers want to get all over their MP modes.

Come on Sony, give the MP'ers some little morsel to chew on.

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Dancemachine55
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:10:04 PM

Agreed, bad timing. MK, Portal 2, Home 1.5 update, Infamous 2 beta, this is just the worst time for the PSN to go down.

And in saying that, I realise that for hackers, this would be the most opportunistic time to strike, right when the players want it most. A long weekend public holiday when lots of big releases come out.

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Danny007
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 8:40:14 PM
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This situation reminds me of when the power is out at my house during a storm and all I can think about is when it's going to turn back on.

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LittleBigMidget
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 8:47:03 PM
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Jeez, I REALLY wanted to play some King of the Hill MK with my friends. *Sigh* FIX IT SONY

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Dancemachine55
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 8:48:09 PM
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Wow, two days now and still no word? That's not like Sony, something must've gone really wrong.

It's not the biggest deal for me since I have a 360 as well and most of my friends are on that, but I feel for those who are Playstation loyalists and only have a PS3. No online gaming, no friends access, that's gotta suck.

But you are completely right Ben, Sony should be offering quick blog updates at least every 12 hours or so, just to give us PSN subscribers something to go by. They usually do, so like I said, something really wrong must've happened and they don't want to let it slip out of embarassing themselves.

By staying silent, speculation turns to a common enemy. Thank goodness that enemy is Anonymous around here, and not Sony themselves.

Remember, for every minute the PSN is down, that's a substantial loss for the company, no purchases being made, no one accessing Home or playing online, no micro-transactions, I'm sure everyone at SCE are working around the clock just to get this back up again and running smoothly.

AND if this was the actions of someone at Anonymous, GO AWAY!! No one likes you or your actions or what you stand for. Sony had every right to sue Hotz for jailbreaking and distributing codes for the PS3. Sony made the removal of Other OS optional, so quit your whining!! You could still access the internet with Other OS, you just couldn't update the PSN, which is not a big deal if you're not gaming online!!!

I hope it does come back soon, if not for me, then for all the Playstation fans and sole PS3 console owners out there.

Also, a friendly reminder to all here at PSXextreme, avoid other sites like Kotaku, IGN or N4G, I assume the Xbots will be out in full force bagging the PS3 and the PSN relentlessly.

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Lawless SXE
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 8:51:15 PM
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Even I'm left wondering about what this is all about, and I can't get PSN anyway. I mean, you'd think that Sony would say something, rather than leaving millions of loyal fans completely in the dark about a 'temporary' break to their services without forewarning. It just seems odd is all. Maybe something has gone horribly wrong with their PSN servers, and making all sorts of problems? I guess that there's not much else to do but wait and see what happens. In the meantime, catch up on the single player games and hope for the best. Though given this silence, I'd say that this outage could last far longer, and you had all better prepare for that eventuality. I mean, imagine the backlash if this sporadic connectivity went on for weeks, or longer. It could really hurt Sony's fanbase, not to mention sullying their name. That worries me.
Peace.

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PorkChopGamer
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 8:53:00 PM
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There's a hardcore Xbox fan that shops at my store. He loves comics so I can get past his undying devotion. So I was going on about the slow Drake-ification of Sony characters, nearly Cole McGrath, and especially with Socom 4's Cullen Gray (same syllables, same hair, almost the same voice)and and he says "I heard PSN was down. You get what you pay for." I said "I'm glad you haven't paid for your comics yet because you ain't getting any today."

I agree it would be very helpful for Sony to keep people up to date, but maybe it's something they can't break down into a 'T-minus 6 hours until we're back up' message. I do hope this is resolved soon for those hardcore MP people out there.

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JMO_INDY
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:07:39 PM

SONY or GTFO!!! haha nice!!!

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Danny007
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:16:21 PM

Haha you tell him

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Jawknee
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:31:38 PM

I mentioned in the other thread that LIVE went down for 2 weeks in 2008. And they pay for it. Xbots sure do have selective memories.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:00:06 PM

lol, the store isn't selling to Xbots today in solidarity with PSN being down.

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Fane1024
Saturday, April 23, 2011 @ 2:40:50 AM

No soup for you!

(apologies for the old meme)

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Eld
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 8:56:44 PM
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It is amazing how quickly we have become addicted to "online".

This doesn't affect me personally, but I agree there should be more frequent updates even if the news is bad.

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Killa Tequilla
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:13:44 PM

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CrusaderForever
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:05:22 PM
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My prediction is that they are moving their datacenter away from a potential hot spot of radiation. I am sure they have many datacenters. However I highly doubt it's a hacker. Those types of holes are sown up quickly. This sounds like a major situation. Can't wait to hear more on this. Hang in there Sony we got your back!

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Dancemachine55
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:19:11 PM

Even if that were the case Crusader, it still doesn't explain why PSN is down worldwide. If anything, the Japanese PSN would be down for 2-3 days or it would be temporarily re-routed to another server in a nearby country or province.

For worldwide access of PSN to be down, it sounds more like hackers than anything else. A whole system crash based on a faulty server or Sony-caused incident sounds highly unlikely, but I could be wrong.

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Beamboom
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:22:47 PM

Doubtful, that would not require days of downtime, the two server clusters would just have overlapped eachother, hardly and downtime required at all.

This is something highly irregular, and not planned.

Last edited by Beamboom on 4/22/2011 9:23:21 PM

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Jawknee
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:33:44 PM

What Dancemachine said. The US and EU PSN servers are not dependent on Japan's servers. They operate independently.

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MyWorstNightmar
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:08:17 PM
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Open your eyes people!!!

This is Gabe Newell's doing!!

It's been a setup from the start. His E3 grovelling, sucking up to Sony and PS3 owners, bringing Portal 2 to us, and Sony letting him bring his Trojan Horse (Steam) to the PSN!!!!

We've been had!!! Gabe is in Redmond, Wa. laughing his a$$ off right now! Aaaaaaarrgghhhhhh!!!!!!!

/s

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Killa Tequilla
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:14:44 PM

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:41:43 PM

lol nice theory, but Gabe is way too lazy to go through with the trouble.

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frostface
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:09:02 PM
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They have been informing people, it's just that they don't have any info to share or want to share.

Playstation tweet a couple of hours ago:

"No new information to update you with I'm afraid. We'll post here over the weekend with any developments. blog.eu.playstation.com/"

They'll post over the weekend, which sounds like no end in sight as of yet.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:14:49 PM

Those aren't updates. Saying nothing doesn't qualify as an "update" in the eyes of consumers, I must say.

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frostface
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:24:24 PM

I agree completely. The part about posting over the weekend is the most unsettling part though. Sounds like they're planning for a long haul.

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Dancemachine55
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:33:16 PM

UPDATE!!! (again, just in case)

Got this from IGN. A spokesperson, Senior Director of Communications Patrick Seybold, has said that it IS an external intrusion (or hacker) who invaded the PSN and Qriosity services.

Sony maunually shut down the network on Wednesday night around 8pm as a means to secure PSN and perform a full investigation.

This means PSN was brought down by Sony so as the hacker could not affect gamers and/or accounts. Good move from a security standing point if you ask me.

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frostface
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:11:09 PM
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Funny how this all seemed to happen on the same date as predicted in the Terminator movies. The PSN has now become self aware.

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Dancemachine55
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:21:57 PM

LMAO!!!

OMG, best post so far!! The PSN has become a self-aware entity and has shut itself down.

Maybe it's taking an oil bubble bath and sipping electrical glasses of Chardonney in the process. :P

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:43:41 PM

Freeeeaky.

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BikerSaint
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 11:01:54 PM

The PSN's taking a time-out to suck all the electrical powers out of inFamous so they can destroy all those D-bag hacking Reapers, once & for all.

"Go all COLE on all their little whiny entitlement a$$es"!!!

Last edited by BikerSaint on 4/22/2011 11:03:27 PM

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ffyfe7
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:16:18 PM
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@ Eld

I believe one of the factors is that most games rely on online features to sustain replayability. It's like the more recent Call of Duty(s), the single player seems like an afterthought because a vast majority of their focus goes towards MP.

In the end this issue doesn't affect me personally as I am playing GT5 and MLB 11 The Show as of now but I do feel for those who are paying for PS+ or just want to go online. Even if Sony stated something along the lines of "Having difficulty fixing issue of...PSN will be down for approximatly..." it would at least inform PSN users.

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Dancemachine55
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:24:13 PM

Yeah, I'm not feeling it too bad either.

I'm playing through Red Dead Redemption again and finally about to start FF XIII.

Also getting through Mario Galaxy 2. And recently joined the Gears 3 multiplayer beta.

So yeah, I can be patient. Not so much a big deal for me.

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TheAgingHipster
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:26:42 PM

Indeed.

BTW, stonking LOVE your avatar.

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Killa Tequilla
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:30:04 PM

Whats with you people feeling sorry for PS+ users? In all the years I've had a Ps3, this is by far the most we've seen PSN down. Im sure either it's anonymous or something going down in Japan, or maybe they are having technical difficulties, perhaps they just want to refresh PSN. Doesnt matter, the point is everything breaks down sooner or later or it gets attacked & we all know this, but it's no reason to threaten Sony. They are trying to find out what "x" is in the problem. Just be calm people. Sony has provided us with an outstanding free-to-all service & they will keep doing so when they find "x". At the end of the day when they fix the problem you all will completely forget about it seconds after & carry on.

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gunblademaster
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:51:26 PM

@dancemachine55. Im also in the middle of ff13. It is an awesome game though sometimes can be a drag since it is so linear. But i love it. I dont understand why it recieved so much hate.

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InBlackestNight
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:33:11 PM
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Take this time to play one of the MANY glorious offline, single-player gems out there. You know...Play games the original way. I am personally so tired of online being shoved at us, I can't really be upset about this and Im a plus member. Some people can't live without online. Me...I love PSN but hate online gaming.

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Jawknee
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:35:03 PM
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I've been managing without PSN. Been playing Portal 2's single player and will start Socom 4's campaign when I am done with Portal. This has also given me time to play my new Gibson SG. :)

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Qubex
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:16:43 PM

Are you impressed with SOCOM in 3D?

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Jawknee
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 11:01:15 PM

I haven't played the retail copy yet but I was impressed with the beta in 3D. :)

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ffyfe7
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:38:18 PM
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@Dancemachine55

I've played through RDR three times due to my PS3 breaking at certain points. On my first playthrough I was just about to head back to the farm when I got the YLOD. My brother was playing it later because he was playing on the other PS3 and ruined the ending. So yeah RDR is fun but if I have to start again for any reason.....

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Dancemachine55
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:35:37 PM

Awww, damn, that sucks!!

Returning to the farm was the best bit!! And the game kept going for about 4 hours after that!!! I was amazed at how much stuff Rockstar had crammed into that gem of a game.

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gunblademaster
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:42:17 PM
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Uhhh....whats up with the picture?

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BIGRED15
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:45:56 PM
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my guess is it has something to do with A hacker group. probably not anonops or anything associated with them, but usually if the psn is down they are pretty prompt about updates. I mean... i remember that something like this has happened before, but it usually has to do with maintenence or other things like that. Sony is trying to cover something up i think. Plus if they were to release a statement, they would be speaking to 70 million pissed off people whom for 2 days haven't been able to access online. So i think they'll stay pretty quiet until its fixed.

Here's a little something for online junkies. AT LEAST U OWN A PS3!!! for cryin out loud, we as a consumer base have become way to reliant on online games. I'll bet COD freaks are suckin their thumbs right now. I don't know about y'all but a little uncharted 2 to finish an already relaxing day sounds like the perfect alternative.

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Temjin001
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:50:16 PM
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While it would be nice, I'm not concerned or that bothered by the silence. Hopefully they get something figured out soon. I'd hate to be an excited MK gamer who's all hot to compete online, only to be left in the dark on the matter. This would be a disaster if it happened during BF3 of CoD X's launch.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:50:50 PM
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Wanna know something interesting? Game update patches still download like normal.

I'm not happy about it because I want to watch Netflix. It would be nice to have an update and so far it seems like Sony themselves still don't know what is going on.

They may also not want to cede any losses to the attackers until success has been achieved permanently. Railing against Anonymous could only make the matter worse, and I fail to see how anything in Japan would affect servers here but then I know nothing about how that stuff works.

It sucks, but we are behind ya Sony. And don't let the xbox snottites get ya down. Fix it, but then I want a full update on WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED!!!

Screw online gaming, I need my anime.

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gunblademaster
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:55:59 PM

I havent watched an anime in quite a while actualy. Several people have recommended death note so ill start watching that.

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Temjin001
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:56:15 PM

Do you have a Wii? If so, rather than having it sit around looking gay doing nothing (do real hardcore gamers play that thing...yes, Jawknee I know you do), you could actually do Netflix on it. My family uses the Wii for Netflix to help offload all the work the poor PS3 has to do. I know the PS3 does everything, but I like to be nice to it and let it rest every once and a while =p

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:01:14 PM

No Wii here, I do my netflix over PS3. Watching it on my computer is just too stupid to consider.

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gunblademaster
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:04:41 PM

Yep the wii is awesome as well. Cant wait for skyward sword! Im also looking forward to "the last story" that is an epic rpg already out in japan but it will be coming overseas soon. Develped by Mistwalker who apparently has several workers from sqaure soft ( not sqaure enix). Look it up if u want to find out everything.

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Jawknee
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:10:32 PM

Netflix still works World. Here's what I did. Start Netflix and attempt to sign in. You will see the PSN is down for maintenance message, then hit circle and let Netflix continue loading. If it tries to get you to sign in again, select sign in again, then circle again when you see the PSN down for maintenance message. At that point Netflix should be done loading. If it's not just repeat steps 2 and 3 until it's done.

It says you need to have a secure PSN connection to use Netflix but it's not true. I'm watching That 70's Show right now. :)

Last edited by Jawknee on 4/22/2011 10:13:31 PM

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:12:14 PM

The Last Story is actually headed by the father of Final Fantasy so it should be good. Still won't buy a Wii though. Maybe when it's a few bucks cuz I want the Zelda games eventually.

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Killa Tequilla
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:12:42 PM

LMAO rather than having it sit around looking gay doing nothing

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LittleBigMidget
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:14:39 PM

Netflix still works.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:18:21 PM

When I load Netflix it tells me that I need to be signed into PSN and of course I can't do that.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:44:33 PM

Thanks Jawknee I'll try that later tonight when I need my fix.

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BikerSaint
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 11:14:43 PM

Netflix works on all 3 consoles.

But I only use it on my Bot-Box, just because the 360 version instantly blinks a notice below the monthly offerings if any movie/program is about to be de-listed & retired soon.

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shiroxkatsuya
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:57:04 PM
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its not really the fact that psn is down that bothers me -though that is pretty crappy- its just being kept in the dark like this makes me think the issue could be bad.

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Snorge
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:57:45 PM
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"An external intrusion on our system has affected our PlayStation Network and Qriocity services. In order to conduct a thorough investigation and to verify the smooth and secure operation of our network services going forward, we turned off PlayStation Network & Qriocity services on the evening of Wednesday, April 20th. Providing quality entertainment services to our customers and partners is our utmost priority. We are doing all we can to resolve this situation quickly, and we once again thank you for your patience. We will continue to update you promptly as we have additional information to share." Sony Update

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Snorge
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 9:58:10 PM

Source :
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/22/update-on-playstation-network-qriocity-services/

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Jawknee
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:11:20 PM

"An external intrusion on our system has affected our PlayStation Network and Qriocity services."

So it was hackers.

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Qubex
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:21:46 PM

Jawk, it may be hackers, but not necessarily the traditional "homebrewist" as we know them. Maybe through the process of hacking the PS3, and getting CFW on machines like Rebug - the developers version of the OFW - professional Russian or Chinese hacker gangs found a weak spot to attack - mainly for fraud related activities.

As far as I have read Anonymous have explicitly said they are not part of it. Maybe a radical wing of Anonymous is... but if it is rather a professional cyber criminal gang trying to intrude in order to get credit card information out of the system etc, this attack may be at another level, far beyond what we know.

Maybe Sony are in real trouble, and they are trying to see what they can do to re-credit peoples accounts, or try to deal with the loss of private credit card information.

This did occur and the news got out, it would really undermine PSN and everything Sony has done.

I already went to my account and removed all personal details and credit card information. I only have very limited information, and will only use PSN cards to credit my account (if I ever do again) in the future...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

Last edited by Qubex on 4/22/2011 10:22:11 PM

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Dancemachine55
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:39:53 PM

Thanks Snorge.

Sorry I posted it several times, you got in well before me.

But yeah, damn hackers. The uncool pirates of the interwebs. They're as bad as the viruses that attack Windows servers.

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Fane1024
Saturday, April 23, 2011 @ 2:49:51 AM

I'm glad I just zeroed-out my PSN wallet a few days ago. I usually have about $20 sitting in there.

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shiroxkatsuya
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:00:19 PM
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so it was a hack then

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Temjin001
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:01:21 PM
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Maybe the outage is due to GeoHOTZ posse of cyber ninja who hacked and shut the PSN house down as retaliation.... oooooh, there's a hot rumor sure to get some hits...

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Beamboom
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:02:16 PM
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It appears to me like something has happened that is so severe that Sony was forced to respond with an immediate shut down of psn while working on the fix.

Pure speculation of course, but this is a very typical response when security has been breached. ie "hacked".
And if they were, I'd guess what's happened is that either they managed to leech data out of psn, or (more likely imo) they've flooded the databases with bogus data, mimicking real ps3 clients.

But this is *pure* speculation of course.

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Beamboom
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:04:43 PM

Wow, while I wrote this post Snorge posted his msg above.

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Snorge
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:41:13 PM

Sorry man, I was on it LoL

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Beamboom
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:59:52 PM

Indeed you were :) Just funny that the confirmation of my speculation came virtually the same minute I wrote my post. Coincidences, coincidences.

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AcHiLLiA
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:13:50 PM
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I knew something like this was going to get BIG, when I noticed some problems almost a month ago that eventually sometimes when I try to go online their where some errors.

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AcHiLLiA
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:17:54 PM

Alot of desperate sh!theads in this world.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:17:20 PM
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The Geohot lawsuit is settled, Anonymous just has nothing better to do. Maybe they will turn their focus to where Kate Middleton is getting her dress from soon and we can all go online again.

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kokoro
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:22:35 PM

Lets just hope they contract anatidaephobia through some unknown cause and they will be running for the rest of their lives.

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Qubex
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:25:33 PM

World, as I explained to Jawk, i don't think it is Anonymous... it maybe a radical portion of the group that the main controlling leaders have lost influence over; but to me it sounds more sinister.

As said above, I think it may be a sophisticated attack to defraud Sony. This maybe related to Russian / Chinese cyber criminals hacking into the system deeply to get out credit card information or the like. I just don't think it is a s simple as an Anonymous DDOS attack...

I get the feeling it is more sinister than this. Look, even the company Sony hired to "absorb" DDOS attacks has failed to protect them. It may be a real hacker intrusion on a different scale, but not an Anonymous job specifically.

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:47:27 PM

That's quite the theory, but the simplest explanation could be the right one here. Bear in mind they were very upset that nobody in any useful numbers showed up in their Guy Fox masks at Sony Style stores to "protest". That failure probably prompted this more damaging attack.

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Jawknee
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:53:35 PM

Either way you slice it, they are either directly or indirectly responsible for this if it is indeed hackers. They let the dog off it's leash. I don't really care what they say. They have no credibility and are a bunch of low lifes as far as I am concerned.

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LittleBigMidget
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:18:36 PM
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Guess I'll just go complete the Arcade ladder with Scorpion. I was having fun with my MK/inFAMOUS 2 Beta combo too...F*** you anonymous or whoever caused this.

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sticklife
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:20:42 PM
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Hey dudes, netflix works. When you try and use it, it prompts you to login into the psn, just try and sign on. Of course it won't let you but after it doesn't, netflix will load and then you can watch stuff. Hope this hold some of you over.

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DazeOfWar
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:38:00 PM

Awesome thanks for the info.

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Dancemachine55
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:29:58 PM
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UPDATE!!!

Got this from IGN. A spokesperson, Senior Director of Communications Patrick Seybold, has said that it IS an external intrusion (or hacker) who invaded the PSN and Qriosity services.

Sony maunually shut down the network on Wednesday night around 8pm as a means to secure PSN and perform a full investigation.

This means PSN was brought down by Sony so as the hacker could not affect gamers and/or accounts. Good move from a security standing point if you ask me.

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gunblademaster
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:33:39 PM

Well that makes sense

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LittleBigMidget
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:35:48 PM
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Not a good move at all.

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Dancemachine55
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:44:03 PM

If PSN has been hacked and Sony shut down the online servers to protect client information from being stolen or leaked, how is this a bad move?

I would much rather go a few days without PSN and have my information secure than keep playing online while some hacker takes my credit card info and goes on a shopping spree.

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LittleBigMidget
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:52:00 PM
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All I'm trying to say is that this is the worst possible time to shutdown PSn. ESPECIALLY with this week being a triple release, along with the Infamous 2 beta.

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Snorge
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:55:49 PM

Me thinks Sony knows what their doing...

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Friday, April 22, 2011 @ 10:57:54 PM
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Has anyone else noticed that _______ has yet to comment on this issue?? Maybe he's in hiding...

Besides that, this does make me worry a bit. Since you brought this point up, Ben, the more time passes, the more worried I get. I'm confident that Sony will give us a heads up when they figure something out.

On another note, I noticed that the whole "you have been signed out of PlaystationNetwork" thing is now changed to "PlaystationNetwork is currently undergoing maintenance". I personally take this as a good sign, but the longer it's there, the more I'll worry. I hope you'll keep us informed about this whole thing, Ben. This is the only site I actually enjoy checking.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, April 23, 2011 @ 12:12:48 AM

I admit it. Blank line is really me. I just rile people up now and then to create more discussion.

.........

....................

...okay, even if I tried, I couldn't post like he does. ;)

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___________
Saturday, April 23, 2011 @ 4:42:22 AM

you only wish you had the creativity of me!
;)

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JMO_INDY
Saturday, April 23, 2011 @ 12:30:09 PM

I tried telling everyone haha

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CrusaderForever
Saturday, April 23, 2011 @ 12:09:05 AM
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IGN says PSN is down due to an external intrusion. That sucks!

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___________
Saturday, April 23, 2011 @ 4:43:22 AM
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patience!
good things come to those who wait.
;)

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Excelsior1
Saturday, April 23, 2011 @ 5:54:09 AM
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i have no patience. sony's silence for so long was ridiculous, and drove the sprculation. it kind of made them look inept, and clueless. secure that network sony.

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Mornelithe
Saturday, April 23, 2011 @ 10:40:43 AM
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Thankfully, I have a gaming PC, NBA Playoffs, NHL Playoffs, and MLB to focus on right now. Haven't really been impacted by the outtage at all really. So, it's not a huge thorn in my side.

That having been said, I think it's about time that Sony implemented the PS3's parallel processing capabilities, create a program that either tracks down, or does counter-DDoS, and basically any PS3 owner who's interested can lend their spare processing power to annihilating these scumbags. Hell, even better, make the program simply track these peoples whereabouts down. Their specific location in the world. Then make it a race, either the cops get there and arrest them first, or we do, and the coroner will need dental records to identify the body.

I'm getting tired of Governments, and major businesses simply allowing these people free reign to do as they please. Some examples need to be made, and at this point, I wouldn't be against those examples being in the form of bullets.

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