An Open Letter To Sony
Dear Sony,
As you work to return the PlayStation Network to its fans, we offer this letter, in conjunction with our readers, as we have taken the liberty of assessing their general response to this ordeal.
You have no doubt been aware of consumer reactions, which have ranged from aggressive hatred to forgiving patience. Over the past three weeks, those who saw their personal information in potential jeopardy became concerned; they also lamented the loss of a heretofore reliable, trustworthy service. But through it all, it appears your fans are more than willing to return to you when the Network resurrects. Even if the rebuilding process takes longer than anticipated, we will come back.
That being said, in all walks of life, it is important to learn from our mistakes and adapt to quickly changing landscapes. Therefore, when the Network returns, the fans will expect it to have a refreshed fortitude and new-found staying power. They will expect a safer Sony, a more alert Sony, a Sony that effectively battles the cyber-terrorism the rest of the world must combat on a daily basis. This may sound demanding but we all have to be more attentive, and while we recognize that Sony Corp. is a victim, we also know your company has a responsibility.
We have confidence that our responsibility is not ill-placed. But we may have a few reservations and to allay our fears, it will be important that the Network return with vigor and stability. You have earned your loyal fans over the years and they can forgive and forget, especially when direct criminal acts are involved. However, if fans have to go through a second fiasco, even the most hardcore loyalists will begin to question. The Network must be a place that keeps us entertained but in addition, it must also instill a sense of calm serenity, in that we are not filled with anxiety.
We recognize the situation for what it is and place blame accordingly. Those responsible for the attack on your servers receive the brunt of our ire, and we will not ignore the root cause of this problem. If the criminals in question sought to earn notoriety, fame or respect from anybody in the gaming world, they failed to do so. Nobody is impressed with these acts, and nobody forgives or makes excuses for them. At the end of the day, it is an uphill battle against cyber criminals and above all else, we do acknowledge the following: Sony and its fans are on the same side.
Sincerely,
PSXE Staff and Common Sense Gamers
5/13/2011 Ben Dutka
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MyWorstNightmar
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 9:52:08 PM
StangMan80
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 1:29:05 AM
IronFace2
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 7:12:43 AM
kevinater321
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 8:20:30 AM
AcHiLLiA
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 11:25:43 AM
BikerSaint
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 9:50:38 PM
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Killa Tequilla
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 10:47:49 PM
Killa Tequilla
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 11:54:35 PM
cLoudou
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 10:11:21 PM
gunblademaster
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 9:52:52 PM
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Aura7541
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 9:54:34 PM
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Here's the link if anybody wants to read his article. Relative to other articles, this one is more objective and mature.
http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/article/Dont-believe-the-hype-PS3-users-arent-switching-to-Xbox-360/1305314210
kraygen
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 10:24:50 PM
Secondly can you even permanently delete a psn account? It has all your trophy info and what not and I've never seen a permanent delete button. Of course I haven't gone looking.
However that comment alone makes me wonder at the reliability of the article, even if you can delete your account, you can't do it when you can't access your account.
Aura7541
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 10:36:09 PM
DazeOfWar
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 10:45:23 PM
I love my PS3 and will never get rid of it. I came from the land of Live and don't ever plan on going back. I've actually increased my game library by 7 since PSN has been down. Sony doesn't have to worry about me going anywhere.
Destructiod has an article that says the devs are able to use PSN now to test their games. Who nows if it's really true but it could be a good sign that Sony is getting there. Here is the link: http://www.destructoid.com/playstation-network-apparently-online-for-developers-201073.phtml
Anyways you can sign my name to the letter too Ben. Thanks for another great article.
Aura7541
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 11:50:36 PM
Dancemachine55
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 10:00:05 PM
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In terms of customer relations, take your time Sony, the people have enough single player games to keep them happy. Portal 2 players mostly got the game on PC, since Valve specialises in PC and the game is therefore optimal for PC play.
Mortal Kombat and Brink are the only 2 big games truly affected by this down-time. Companies that rely on the network for microtransactions or online purchases are having it far worse than any customer right now, so my sympathy goes out to them. I hope PSN comes back soon more for developers' sake than customers. They're the ones losing money over this. If anything, PSN users are saving money from having nothing to buy from. (Except SOE players who paid for this down time subscription, but they will be compensated)
Once PSN is back up and running, and games like Uncharted 3, Twisted Metal and Resistence 3 are released, we'll see a flood of people who traded their PS3's come flooding back. A good service is nothing without premium content to support it, and I guess Limbo was all Live had, hence the incredible amount of attention it got.
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Claire C
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 11:43:36 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 10:12:03 PM
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I was thinking about this today and have concluded that the main reason this has been such a fiasco is that the service is down and people love the service.
When other sites or services like Facebook or amazon get hacked they can easily pop back up, but an intricate system like PSN has a lot more contingencies to plan for and security measures to get in place as the investigation reveals all the problems.
So I think it's clear that us gamers just want something great back and some are just better at patience than others.
bigrailer19
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 10:36:42 PM
frylock25
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 10:12:24 PM
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i have faith that the network will come back and be better. i truly hope that they are makin some improvements along the way. maybe beyond just security. i know its a lot to ask but it would draw people back. "new improved psn". can dream right?
honestly i would be happy if it was the exact same only stronger protected.
i am starting to doubt that anyone will ever get caught in all of this. these guys seem to be able to get into all these secure places without a trace. how is this possible? how can not one damn company or government not track these guys down? im sorry but has anyone ever seen "catch me if you can"? someone has to find some kind of insider or something. they have tricks that are to good. rewards for REAL INFO THAT LEADS TO ARRESTS. people will turn in friends if they think they will get money out of it.
we will be hitting the one month mark soon. some major games are coming out or have just come out. this is really messing with the community in a bad way. mag had an unstable population before all this. i hope it doesnt suffer to bad. socom 4 and portal 2 never even got their chance yet and infamous 2 is ready to zap us in the face.
Clamedeus
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 11:41:26 PM
BikerSaint
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 10:30:24 AM
Clamedeus
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:05:26 PM
bigrailer19
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 10:23:45 PM
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I have complete faith the Network will come back soon, and be better than before. I believe we will have better security and a better overall community. I can't say for certain but I hope its like this never happened when I log back on!
I'm ready to play some Socom 4!
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SoulController
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 10:25:43 PM
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Highlander
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 10:39:10 PM
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Everyone please remember that when PSN first launched Sony was taking a huge risk, because they were launching a new service, and it was important to get it right. However, compared to that time, rebuilding and relaunching PSN now, after the attack and extended downtime puts Sony in a position that is infinitely more difficult than the one they faced when launching PSN. Any wrong move, mis-step or failure during the re-launch will be met with gleeful criticism from many sources. The costs to Sony and PSN of getting the relaunch wrong are so much higher than they ever were when PSN was brand new. When it was brand new, people almost expected some initial foul ups, because it was so new.
Now though, with gamer patience worn thin over the weeks, re-starting PSN has to be done right the first time. Don't underestimate how difficult that task is.
MyWorstNightmar
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 11:12:55 PM
Beamboom
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 2:29:18 AM
However, now that they are better prepared chances are good that they will be back up again within hours, not weeks, and that no vital data were stolen or damaged.
That will mean that it doesn't *matter* so much if some kid get to sneak himself behind one of many perimeters.
That is the real difference between a good, secure system and a poor one.
But despite my opinions about how things seemed to have been in the past: I am 100% sure that the PSN we eventually will return to will be a *lot* better than the one we left behind, run by a company who has learnt, and that we can continue to trust.
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Clamedeus
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 8:56:41 AM
Fane1024
Sunday, May 15, 2011 @ 1:08:31 AM
Highlander
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 10:52:13 PM
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I really hope Sony gets PSN back up to some extent by Monday. If not, then as promised, I'll have to dig out my kilt and prepare to say; "Oops, my expectation that Sony would be able to restore some of PSN by the end of the week, was wrong. "
Oh nos! I'm sure that the sky will fall, and the potential of a highlander wearing the kilt traditionally will cause the foundations of the world to shake. Alternately, life will go on, and we'll all have a good laugh.
;)
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bigrailer19
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 10:54:47 PM
Highlander
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 11:01:11 PM
I'll just say two things about the video, it's not mine, and I'm not in any of the pictures in it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJB1u1ZFzrk&feature=related
WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 11:54:42 PM
BikerSaint
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:34:52 AM
Highlander
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 1:02:19 AM
Beamboom
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 2:33:24 AM
Highlander
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 7:45:51 PM
BikerSaint
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 9:08:02 PM
Fane1024
Sunday, May 15, 2011 @ 1:12:54 AM
Highlander
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 11:12:31 PM
CrusaderForever
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 11:11:37 PM
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LittleBigMidget
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 11:13:49 PM
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Beamboom
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 2:36:06 AM
LittleBigMidget
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 11:34:26 PM
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Clamedeus
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 11:43:59 PM
LittleBigMidget
Friday, May 13, 2011 @ 11:53:32 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:00:35 AM
Anybody old enough to be in a position to have their information stolen knows this. Bottom line is all consumers need to pay attention at all times. Singling out Sony as if it only happened to them is ridiculous.
CrusaderForever
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:28:26 AM
I will, it's no big deal to me. I protected myself so I can enjoy the Inet and services like PSN. This is absolutely nothing to me. I feel sorry for Sony and see them as a victim here. The only critters at fault are the hackers. Honestly, there really shouldn't be a need for firewalls or security. However, it's human nature to be an a**hole that's why they exist. Protect yourself from said a**holes and enjoy life. That's how I view this debacle.
Highlander
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:44:40 AM
Clamedeus
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 2:54:14 AM
That's not what I was replying to. People will forget that this attack even happened and after some time it will be behind everyone.
That's what I was getting at.
I haven't seen any cases of supposed leak information being used, so it all should be good. This will pass and be a distant memory to some people, I could see if it actually had an impact on peoples financial status, but no reports so far have indicated that yet.
(I won't turn an eye at it but it's a possibility it may have been used but I haven't seen any yet. Same with my friends.)
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___________
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 8:08:46 AM
if someone breaks into your house and steals your TV, does it make it ok for you to do the same?
ok peoples info gets stolen all the time, but that does not excuse sonys piss poor security!
what makes it worse is THEY WERE WARNED multiple times and they ignored it!
theres still security execs with the pentagon saying hey your security is still open, will they listen?
if someone rings you and says hey your house is on fire do you say eh its just a joke, or ring the fire brigade and race home?
i know which one id be doing!
Clamedeus
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 8:40:32 AM
A TV missing isn't going to put a risk on your financial status at all, all you need to do is Buy a new TV. Fire can happen, but if proper measures are already in place it shouldn't be to much of a problem unless an accelerant is used. I live in a City but not a compact city, people are always around so everything should be good on my end.
But some are unlucky in these situations.
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LittleBigMidget
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:06:53 AM
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Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:26:21 AM
playSTATION
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:17:31 AM
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LittleBigMidget
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:26:14 AM
CrusaderForever
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:38:15 AM
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Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 1:51:30 AM
Jed
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 3:32:22 AM
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Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:26:54 AM
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LittleBigMidget
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:31:54 AM
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CrusaderForever
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:40:23 AM
karneli lll
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:41:49 AM
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LittleBigMidget
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:42:18 AM
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Highlander
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:59:32 AM
That said, the hacking community has an overlap with gamers, especially PC gamers. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a sizeable number of 360 fans in the hacker population as well. It's not really too unrealistic to imagine that some of those 360 or PC gaming fans might have an axe to grind with Sony, and be involved in the scene, and even involved with groups such as Anonymous.
There are so many highly partisan and motivated people around the gaming and tech world, it's certainly not unlikely that fanboyism is part of the motivation behind the attack(s) on Sony. Actually, that's really a sad indictment of gamers in general if it's the case...
CrusaderForever
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 1:01:30 AM
Clamedeus
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 3:00:06 AM
CoolBLKguy
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:43:59 AM
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StangMan80
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 1:30:35 AM
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Excelsior1
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 1:33:47 AM
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i agree with bens comment they are a victim, but that does not mean they could not have handled it better. sony played the silence game at first, and that seemed to backfire on them.
what is really surprising is the extent of the attack. the hackers got everything sony had. how did sony not notice that much information being taken? who was in charge of monitoring psn?
over 100 million accounts were compromised. it's almost unbelievable. that's a lot of data. you would think it would have raised some red flags.
there is no douibt that consumer confidence in psn has been damaged. getting psn back up is just the start of the battle. it needs to be stable with no more outages.
i changed ps3's during this outage. i guess i will have to deactivate the old one to get my psn name back. i used an old email address that i no longer have access to register my 1st ps3 so i'm worried i wont be able to get my psn id and account right. i will need sony's help to walk me through it. i'm really concerned about keeping my psn name the same so my friends can find me. also i need to redownload the cerebus package for me2. if they are able to transfer my account to my new ps3 i should be able to go into account history and redownload all my purchases/dlc.
anyways, i hope psn comes back soon and eveything goes smoothly. sony will survive this somehow.
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Highlander
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 1:41:09 AM
Excelsior1
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 3:50:07 AM
i may have changed it to my ps3 compatible gmail address. i don't remember if i did or not. i never did get any emails from sony so i may have some trouble.
i know my old ps3 was registered with sony becuase i gave the the serial number when i called them. they walked me through activating my last ps3. if they deactivate my old ps3 i shoulkd be able to get my psn name back at least.
right now they could not help me or deactivate the old one becuase of the network being down. we will see how it plays out. i'm pretty confident i'll get it sorted out.,.at least i have a backwards compatable ps3. it also came with a 1 yr warranty so that's great. it's refurbished and actually came sealed in plastic. looks brand new. awesome machine., it's literally 3 consoles in 1. the extra ports and card readers in front are pretty neat. two ports are not enough.
i've been playing a some old ps2 games. there are some great deals at gamestop. i replayed re4. that's an awesome game. it has a lot of content on there with a long single player campign. i loved eastern european atmosphere in that game. zombies cursing at you with thick european accents was pretty cool.
speaking of zombies. have you guys seen that series on amc? the walking dead. that's an awesome series with great production values. that show is pretty slick. i love it.
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Jed
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 3:42:33 AM
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I have full confidence that this trouble will be cleared up and we will once again be playing in peace, on a safe secure network.
VIVA LA SONY!!!
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WolfCrimson
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 4:57:59 AM
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LazyVigilante
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 5:09:00 AM
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Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 5:47:56 AM
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Clamedeus
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 8:02:48 AM
Beamboom
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 8:18:06 AM
I believe the source of this rumor is a statement from a Sony employee responding to a question about new features, saying something vague about how they were considering both improvements and new features to psn before relaunch. But this was a general comment and not in any way a confirmation that there will be anything new.
My personal gut feeling says that there will be *something* new. Not anything too complex, and cross game chat is probably just that, but I think we will discover something that was not there before.
I'll even feel a slight sting of disappointment if everything is just like it was before, I have to admit.
Although, it will all be forgotten the moment I get connected with my coop buddy and I hear "sooo, don't we have a portal that need some fixin'? Lets get to work, shall we!" in my ear. :)
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Beamboom
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 8:25:16 AM
Clamedeus
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 8:44:48 AM
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Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 8:57:42 AM
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Clamedeus
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:08:08 PM
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Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 8:10:44 AM
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Clamedeus
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 8:45:26 AM
Excelsior1
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 9:43:04 AM
the vast majority of people out there in the real world are holding sony 100% accountable for its network security. there will always be hackers, it's hard to direct your anger at a group of faceless hackers.
god help sony if there is another breach or if the network falls flat on its face during its rollout. whenever the hell that will be. let's see, we have heard 2 days. a week, and finally a few more days at least. may 31st actually feels like a possibity at the rate things are going.
Clamedeus
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 10:03:02 AM
With some of the resources being used against Geohot, I have doubt that Sony knew this was going to happen. I don't believe Sony goes around looking for threats on the company. But you better believe they are keeping a very close eye on what's going on now.
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Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 10:58:47 AM
it was devs talking to sony, but they just ignored them.
the tennant came up to you and said hey theres a gas leak in your apartment, can i come in tomorrow and fix it before it blows the block up?
and you said no, im busy lets see how it goes.
dont use the geo lawsuit as a scape goat, that was over MONTHS ago!
after all the DDoS attacks from annon and the constant treats that they had seen nothing yet, you think that would set off a red light?
its like osama ringing the white house and threatening a attack!
seriously if that does not send off the alarm bells, then its time to get them replaced!
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Clamedeus
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:24:44 PM
Is there a source to this IRC of developers talking to Sony about it? If you can pop that source in here I will agree with you on that and say I was wrong.
Until you give me proof about the IRC I don't believe you.
Highlander
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:48:09 PM
Either way, if Sony paid attention to every anonymous attention whore that posted on an obscure IRC channel or twitter account, they'd never own their doors again. You simply can't pay attention to that BS. However undulging in 20-20 hindsight and pointing at some utterly anonymous (small 'A') comments on an IRC channel evidently makes our own anonymous poster feel big and clever. Sadly, he's neither.
Clamedeus
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 1:05:32 PM
Soultaker
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:00:21 PM
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Also if someone could be so kind as to tell me about the new security chif officer? I mean did they actually have one and are making it a new position(doubtful but still has to be said) or are they terminating the guy that was there before because he seemed to not do his job as well as he said he could on his resume?
Playstation Fan? Definitely!
Fane1024
Sunday, May 15, 2011 @ 1:25:50 AM
Clamedeus
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 12:29:47 PM
Highlander
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 1:00:38 PM
Clamedeus
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 1:07:25 PM
If it is an inside Job of an employee or someone who was formerly an employee doing these acts, hopefully they catch this criminal and put him to the extent of law possible.
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Namsative
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 2:09:08 PM
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Take a few mins to read this just so you understand the scope and scale of problems they have and while some of this has nothing to do with PSN, it shows that they are lacking severely.
It also tells me that if you're registered on any of Sony's sites for anything, I would suggest you go to that site, login and change your pw or better yet just delete the account if you don't really use it.
Oh and PSN back up on Monday ......right ...not trying to bring you guys down but if it's up in the next couple of weeks I'll be completely shocked. Let's just say I heard from a reputable source that it's going to be a lot lot longer. =( You can choose to believe me or not.
http://www.myphl17.com/business/sns-rt-business-us-sonytre74c704-20110513,0,930109.story
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Excelsior1
Saturday, May 14, 2011 @ 3:39:39 PM
there are ways of dealing with that kind of security threat. have a few second delay between password entries. if they fail the password repeatedly kick them out or force them to go to an alternate log in method. did sony have those kind of protectioins in place? somehow, i really doubt it. apparently, a ton of data was taken, and sony only noticed it when the hackers reset the servers to cover their tracks. they will never catch these guys. how do you catch people with a fake name that probably used prepaid debit cards from wal mart? probably named themselves mickey mouse.
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And btw definately dont get your hopes up that they'll eventually catch the perps. If they do it'll be a couple of years from now i'd imagine. The main reason why sony couldn't provide adequate information quicker was because they were trying to follow an invisible trail. The people smart enough to take down sony were definately going to make sure they weren't going to get caught.
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One of these days, we can all get back to gaming!