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RPG Franchises That Need To Return

Before I begin, I think it goes without saying that when I implore developers to bring back certain role-playing franchises, I don't want to see action games. I want an effing RPG. And you can mess with the turn-based if you must, but it better still retain some semblance of turn-based strategy. Oh, and want these on a console, damnit.

Suikoden

Where the hell is my Suikoden VI? I'm probably not alone when I say this ranks second on my all-time favorite RPG franchise list (only behind Final Fantasy); Konami always gave us great stories and characters, and those 108 Stars of Destiny...my God, how addictive was that? I just couldn't rest until I got 'em all! Plus, while it was always turn-based, they tweaked a bit in the latter installments; for instance, in Suikoden V, your position during encounters had an impact. Then there were those larger strategy-based, war-like segments that shook things up a bit.

If there's one RPG I want to see return from the ashes, it's this one.

Secret of Mana/Legend of Mana

Most really don't put the PlayStation's Legend of Mana in the same category as Secret of Mana, the classic RPG on the SNES. Indeed, the two gameplay styles were completely different. That being said, I'd like to see anything with "Mana" in the title. I'm not entirely sure how developers would approach the gameplay just because Secret and Legend were so vastly different; maybe they could try a hybrid mechanic of some sort, like the one in Final Fantasy XII. Role-playing fanatics have been begging for a new Mana for a very long time now, and I think it's long past time Square Enix delivered. Announce one and watch the fans return...

Chrono Trigger/Chrono Cross

Two of the greatest RPGs of all time; where's more Chrono? There was a rumor for several years that said "Chrono Break" was in the works but that project never materialized and since that time, we've heard nothing about another Chrono entry. One of the most appealing elements of Chrono Cross was the huge cast of characters, most all of which were playable, and many of which required you to be a crafty recruiter. And I loved the colorful, gorgeous atmosphere and well-written story. And oh yeah, make sure we get to time travel. I want that back.

Legend of Legaia

I really don't like fighting games, but the idea of selecting various attacks to form special combos in an RPG really got me. The second one, Legaia 2: Duel Saga was one of my favorite RPGs of the PS2 generation; it was just so much fun to find new Arts, and the traditional world design was just fantastic. I don't remember the storylines in either title being all that memorable, but they weren't bad and besides, I never ever got tired of random encounters in that game. And yeah, I cheated a little once...I looked up the combinations for the Super and Miracle Arts so I'd know them ahead of time. So sue me.

Vagrant Story

I really don't know why they don't try another title, as this was an action/RPG that actually might translate well to today's faster-paced environment. I really thought I wouldn't like the "action" part of this game but they did it so damn well - and I could still pause combat, which is crucial in my eyes - that I was instantly hooked. The story and writing was also spectacular and if I remember correctly, this was one of the first games that gave the player a lot of incentive to re-play the adventure. Didn't your character advancement transfer over to the new game+? And then you could just keep powering up? At any rate, this game ruled.

Wild ARMs

This is the only series on the list that sort of went downhill; it started great a good 15 years ago. The original Wild ARMs was one of the first great RPGs on the PlayStation (along with Suikoden). I really liked the second and third ones, too, but things started to degrade after that. There were different developers involved and the series really lost its sense of identity. I kind of liked the Western theme in WA3 and I was also a big fan of assembling a party early, and sticking with that same group throughout. It really made you care about the characters, you know? Given the right team, I think another Wild ARMs could be great.

I'm sure there are many others but these are the most pressing, I'd say. :)

6/24/2011 Ben Dutka

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Comments (65 posts)

Underdog15
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 9:31:48 PM
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Nice list, Ben. Never played Vagrant Story... It's on PSN, so perhaps I should!

As for Mana games, I'm pretty sure there was a Mana game released late in the PS2 lifetime.

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Claire C
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 11:36:21 PM

I think every Mana game after Legend is suppose to be very not good.

What'd that Pepsi ever do to those Coca-cola's?

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SayWord
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 9:32:02 PM
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New legend of dragoon please!

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Riku994
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 9:55:53 PM

I would thumbs this up a million times if I could.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 10:22:00 PM

LoD isn't a "franchise." :)

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Riku994
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 10:25:19 PM

Ben, it needs to be.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 10:36:06 PM

True.

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Claire C
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 11:58:29 PM

That's another one I've felt compelled to buy recently. Looking forward to trying it soon. Yay for me!! =D

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Draguss
Sunday, June 26, 2011 @ 12:35:46 PM

Favorite RPG ever, but I get the feeling that by now Sony's pretty much forgotten its existence.

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VampDeLeon
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 9:32:48 PM
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I loved Chrono Cross when it came out and been dying for it's sequel. I actually for the first time got to try Chrono Trigger after the remake came out to see what I missed, boy did I regret not giving it a try as a kid then after all those times passing the FFIV/Chrono Trigger PS1 collection in Blockbuster.

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cLoudou
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 9:36:51 PM
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I would like to see a new entry for Breath of Fire. And also a Dragon Quest not on the DS.

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SayWord
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 9:38:04 PM

Lot of rumors that the new dragon quest will end up on the wii u.

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cLoudou
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 9:48:47 PM

Wii U? The controller is enough to turn me away.

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Claire C
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 11:39:56 PM

I thought DQX is gonna be for Wii.

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cLoudou
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 1:13:01 AM

Wii? Again, controller is enough to turn me away. What I mean is : Make one for the PS3 dammit.

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Underdog15
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 8:58:43 AM

DQ8 was the best quality one they've ever made. Although, Dragon Warrior (wasn't called quest) 7 for PS1 had poor graphics but was extremely epic!

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Underdog15
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 9:11:07 AM

Also, DQ8 was an 89 on metacritic. With more than half of it's review scores being 9+.

This site's review of it failed though. :p

Don't worry Ben. It wasn't you.

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SayWord
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 9:37:17 PM
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The developers of wild arms (media vision) have been working with squarenix with mobile games as of late. Maybe SE will have them produce another wild arm game? BUT knowing SE they would turn it into a 3rd person western shooter.

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Lawless SXE
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 9:49:03 PM
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Just more traditional RPGs would be good in my book. Don't care if they're sequels or new IPs, just gimme, please!

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Highlander
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 11:13:21 PM

Works for me, I just want more JRPG goodness and some turn based pacing.

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Riku994
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 9:57:05 PM
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1: How do you pronounce Suikoden?

2: We need another entry in the LoD saga. It probably won't happen, but I'll hope for it every day of my life.

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cLoudou
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 10:17:22 PM

Su-wee-koh-den?

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 10:36:24 PM

Soo-ka-din.

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Claire C
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 11:41:02 PM

I heard people pronounce it both ways. Hee hee =^.^=

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Clamedeus
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 3:08:44 AM

I always pronounced it Sai-Ko-Din. xD

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godsman
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 9:57:19 PM
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I just want Valkyria Chronicles back on PS3!!

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Lawless SXE
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 10:07:27 PM

This man speaks truth!

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Dreno
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 10:24:38 PM
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GOD did I want chrono break to come out. I was devistated when s-e let that one go.

And I think I've only ever tried wild arms2 but from what I remember it was pretty cool.

I've played secret of mana for the snes that game rocks.

I'm gonna agree though, with the person who said they would just like more traditional rpgs this gen. ( don't remember who it was and my comment scroll things not working on my phone right meow. )

I just really hope we get more rpgs. They seem so few and far between its rather depressing.

OH, id would LOVE to see more .hack games. That would be friggin sweet.

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zork
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 10:28:52 PM
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Amazing how Kings Field has been forgotten..knock knock, hello Demons Souls.

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Temjin001
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 10:49:19 PM
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Thumbs up for Suikoden right here.
Yep, been playing that one myself.
I'm not too far but I just did a Imperial vs. Liberation Army battle. Good stuff.
The game can be pretty micro management intensive with items and equipment etc., but I sort of like how much direct control it allows you in that respect.
I'm also pretty impressed by the scripting. In fact, I'd say, for their time, they're scripted better than even FFVII... yeah, I went there.
Graphics aren't as good, that's for dang sure.

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AnonWTF
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 10:57:13 PM
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You can't forget about the saga series! The romancing saga remake's gameplay was freaking unique and amazing. The franchise as a whole wasn't amazing (same thing could be said about ff imho), but that last installment was off the CHAIN!

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Highlander
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 11:14:22 PM
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Ben, with you 110% on this one, as you might expect. One thing, can I please implore the various great and good of the JRPG industry to find a way to bring Xenosaga back to the fans that love it?

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Drake_RB3
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 11:17:17 PM
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I really liked Secret of Evermore, too.

Thought the story was better in the first Legaia.

Would love a next-gen Suikoden. I and II are classics. V had some flaws but went back to its roots.

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Claire C
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 11:54:11 PM
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I was looking into Legend of Legaia (PS1), and now that I read this I had to buy it - $22, damn you Amazon, you make it too easy to spend! =)

I'm the least fimiliar with Suikoden and Wild Arms. Are they more SRPG like FF Tactics or tradition JRPG?

On another topic, they should do HD Remakes/Collections of Xenosaga 1-3, Shadow Hearts 1-3, Final Fantasy X-X2-XII, and maybe Shin Megami Tensei (Persona? Devil Summoner?).
=^.^=

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cLoudou
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 1:16:23 AM

Never played Wild Arms but Suikoden is turn-based.

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Fane1024
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 3:37:54 AM

Suikoden Tactics is an SRPG, though...and IV (?) and V borrowed a bit from that genre, as Ben intimated.

While we're wishing, can we get Suikoden II on PSN, please?



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shadowscorpio
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 3:24:36 AM
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Suikoden series. Nuff said I want a Suikoden 6 as well.

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YenooR
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 4:08:32 AM
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Would love a Vagrant Story remake or reboot.

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marcusfrommo
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 5:02:57 AM
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Take blue dragon, redo it, make a sequel, all on one disc, and upgrade the graphics. Ahhh, where's ff14 and kingdom hearts?

Oh, and take dragon quest from nintendo please.

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Ludakriss
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 5:17:55 AM
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So, no one at all yearns for a new Dark Cloud? My eyes are whaling up with tears right now...

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Shikoro
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 10:13:24 AM

Oh God, yes! I would die for a Dark Cloud on Vita or PS3.

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rowdy
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 6:06:50 AM
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A new Vagrant Story would be unbelievable. The first was pretty much an origin story, where Ashley gains all his powers. Now they should bring it out of the dungeons and into larger outdoor environments.

Also, one thing thing in its favour is that if it did evolve into a true action/RPG (like everything seems to), then it could still retain some of its character, especially compared to the others on this list.

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Excelsior1
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 8:22:06 AM
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bad news rpg fans. wkc2 is sitting on metacritic with a 67 after 11 reviews.

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Underdog15
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 9:03:25 AM

When the criticisms are things like,

"A classic JRPG with the usual pros and cons. Too much unnecessary running and cumbersome combat preparations"

it's hard for me to make my own conclusions yet. I'm gonna want to see what this site says, I think. lol

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Dreno
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 9:10:55 AM

I'm still getting it when it his the US.

I loved the first one, look at the reveiws it got.

I know ill love wkc2 more.

Besides, been waiting ALONG time for it.

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Claire C
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 11:36:32 AM

The lowest score on WKC2 is currently a 50 from Eurogamer who also gave WKC1 a 70, and I believe both reviews came from the same journalist. o.O

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Teddie9
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 1:03:47 PM

I don't give a flying blah! I was turned off by the absolute horrid reviews of the original but then searching around I found this site and it's review for WKC, the 8.5 from Arnold and had to give it a try. I absolutely adore the original and I'm still in high hopes for the sequel - I will wait for THIS sites review.

P.S I miss Arnold, The most memorable excerpt from said review "One major online site says WKC is worth a 5.1 - and that's absolutely moronic, because a 5.1 is practically unplayable. And unplayable this game is not..."



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Lawless SXE
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 8:51:50 PM

Excelsior, I assure you that it is a very good game, so long as you don't mind the micromanagement. The battle system is VERY reminiscent of FFIV, there are a ton of sidequests and things to do, and the story is told well, even if it is nothing exceptional. Seriously, the scores mean nothing if the core appeals to you.

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___________
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 8:39:21 AM
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no love for digemon?
loved playing that game, in fact probably the only game to ever come close to the pokemon classics!

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shindelion
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 10:28:44 AM
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Would love to see a new breath of fire, what is Capcom doing?

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GuyverLT
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 10:51:22 AM

What do you mean what are they doing they got like five big name titles coming next year they're pretty busy.

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GuyverLT
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 10:50:02 AM
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Wild Arms 3 was my 1st and only turned-based rpg I haven't played any since then I should probably try to go back and play some of the other ones.

Hey you know what Ben since the PSVita is coming out this would be a perfect opportunity to bring some of those back for the handheld..... OR a console version... Either one is fine I guess.

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Claire C
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 11:40:04 AM

You can play PSX Classics on the PSP and Vita. The PSP has quite a few rpgs on its own as well. If you mean 'made for Vita' then yah I hope so too.
=<.<=

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GuyverLT
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 3:24:50 PM

I was talking about like... you know brand new turned-based rgs.

Those games would be perfect for the handheld.

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shindelion
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 11:16:27 AM
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I mean what are they dong in terms of RPG, Capcom doing pure shooters, or ok beat em up games.

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A2K78
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 4:22:25 PM
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"Lot of rumors that the new dragon quest will end up on the wii u.'

Its no rumor, but a mistranslation, but at this point DQX is obviously for the Wii.

In regards to the Wii U though, SE obviously looking to expand FF to the plaform which leads me to think that SE intends to take the franchise multiplaform in a big way.

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dmiitrie
Sunday, June 26, 2011 @ 2:17:49 AM
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I really enjoyed the first two Lufia games for the SNES (I think the rest of the series were gameboy exclusives, so I never tried them). They both had good stories, lovely graphics (for their time, of course), plenty of side quests, and really solid gameplay.

My only issue was that the battle system could be a little (or sometimes VERY) annoying at times. Instead of a Final Fantasy-esque ATB system where you would pick a characters action and then they would do it, you had to pick your entire party's actions at the beginning of the round and then they (and the enemies) would go in order of their speed.

But with turn-based being all but abandoned, I'm sure that would be a moot point. Still, I'd love to see more stories set in that world with today's tech.

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Araknai
Sunday, June 26, 2011 @ 10:56:08 AM
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Yes! Legend of Legaia and Wild Arms 2 were my first 2 RPG loves and I want them back!

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berserk
Sunday, June 26, 2011 @ 11:02:37 AM
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" LoD isn't a "franchise." :) "

Maybe i failed to understand something but Vagrant story should not be in you re list then.

Anyway , i agree will all you re choice but i ll rather see another breath of fire then most of those .

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Jotun
Sunday, June 26, 2011 @ 2:19:25 PM
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Can't forget Breath of Fire, Earthbound, Shining Force and Lufia(a true installment, not the ds one). Mother 3 was a good game, but somehow it didn't capture the feeling of the originals. Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter was an amazingly underrated game by many. Shining Force Feather looked like it finally got the series back on track but it will never see a release here it looks like and poor Lufia has been left to fend for itself for far too long. These were all best seller franchises. I mean, we're getting game like Parasite Eve: 3rd B-day which are good but not rpgs or the Lufia remake or Golden Sun: Dark Dawn reviving those classic frnachises mostly to success. Publishers need to stop being wimps and take a chance. If they gave us more of what we want like these series, a lot more people would be apt to buy their other games out of loyalty. SE is a perfect example of their fans becoming true sceptics and making it so they can't make money like they used because we just don't trust them anymore. Getting the rights back and producing some of these amazing franchises talked about in this article would go a long way towards restoring the faith.

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shiroxkatsuya
Sunday, June 26, 2011 @ 8:04:16 PM
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i just want suikoden 2 to come to psn DANG IT!!! lol. i would love to see a new one, and a new xenosaga. i would also love to see a new chrono.

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smileys_007
Monday, June 27, 2011 @ 10:00:00 AM
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I want Suikoden, Xenogears, and Grandia to return! ^_^

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Underdog15
Monday, June 27, 2011 @ 10:10:05 AM

The way the Xenogears story went, you could easily make that a series based on the various timelines described in brief in the game. (Sophia and co. for example)

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GamerO1
Monday, June 27, 2011 @ 12:24:52 PM
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Here is my list, plus a couple non series:
Arc the Lad
Breath of Fire
Cosmic Fantasy - TG16 CD (Seriously One of the Best !!!)
Dragon Slayer - TG16 CD (More of an ARPG)
Fire Emblem (SRPG)
Grandia
Legend of Legaia
Lufia
Lunar
Persona
Phantasy Star
SaGa Frontier
Secret of Mana
Shining Force (SRPG)
Star Ocean
Suikoden
Tales of ...
Vandal Hearts
Wild Arms
Xenosaga
These need to get "Back to the Basics", Not Today's Garbage:
• Dragon Warrior/Quest
• Final Fantasy
Not a Series - But I Loved'm !!!:
• Mystaria - Saturn (SRPG)
• Vay - Sega CD (SRPG)

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Alexeon
Monday, June 27, 2011 @ 3:11:04 PM
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I need more Star Ocean and Valkyrie Profile in my life.

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