How Many BF3 Lovers Are Just MW3 Haters?
EA says they'll steal away a good percentage of the established Call of Duty franchise when the highly anticipated Battlefield 3 hits. And in general, the popularity war between these two shooters often seems to hinge on something obvious: the widespread - and seemingly growing - hate for Activision's record-breaking franchise.
And therefore, a question springs to mind. This may sound extremely childish in tone but then again, based on what I've seen, there's plenty of childishness encircling the aforementioned debate. How many BF3 supporters are simply supporters because they despise CoD for whatever reason? How many are so dead-set against the reigning king (the fact that CoD is king is enough; kings are often roundly hated) they'll side with the opponent...any opponent? How many are just happy to be giving their money to any title that dares to challenge the almighty Call of Duty?
While it's true that what we've seen of BF3 is impressive, I wouldn't say the MW3 footage is unimpressive. And considering the spreading CoD - and Activision - hate, it almost appears as if gamers are getting downright vindictive. We have plenty of readers who aren't big fans of CoD and they seem bitter...is vindictive that much of a stretch? I almost get the feeling that gamers who never play shooters will buy BF3 simply to say they "fought the good fight" against the evil Modern Warfare 3. Maybe somebody should do a poll. I actually think gamers would be honest, too.
8/19/2011 Ben Dutka
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Lawless SXE
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 10:01:11 PM
NoSmokingBandit
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 10:10:57 PM
If MW3 looked good i'd be getting both games. It *is* possible to buy both big shooters this fall, despite what EA, Activision, and idiots will tell us.
Its like saying you wont buy NFS Shift because GT is better. Both are great, go buy both!
Except MW3 doesnt look great. Or good. Just kind of meh.
Nas Is Like
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 10:29:05 PM
mastiffchild
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 6:56:19 PM
I usually find the VEST deals for COD games(in the Uk anyway) are the opening week deals where the supermarkets use it as a "loss leader" just to get people in their store. I bought the last two COD releases for about £25 each on day one from Tesco and Asda-and I don't even play the game much and only have to buy them because it amuses my wife(with her November birthday and early Xmas wishes)to make me buy Activision games for her even though she knows I won't support them myself. She's so committed to her apathy it's amazing.
My issue with the series has nothing to do with this being MW3, really, and I just prefer team shooters to lone wolfers so BF3 was always more MY kind of game but I avoid anything to do with BK like the plague if left to my own devic es and feel COD should really not release in the way it does every year.I think a fairer way would be more progressive, even episodic, DLC for the games to be released every OTHER year. It woulsd allow the full games to be more of a jump from the last and make gamers feel they got more value from them too and so many wopuld buy the DLC compared to now that I'd reckon profits would actually go up(I think the same for Fifa and Madden with a roster update on the "off" year with player changes and kit changeas etc) at about £20 per episodic DLC add on. They could add the maps for MP/Zombies or more missions for Spec ops alongside a few chapters of occasional SP to dig into interesting side and back story from the main game. Anything as long as it doesn't alter the ending of the game itself.
I also think this would make people care more about their community online. As it is, sadly, I feel all the emphasis in COD is in tricking us into thinking they did just enough to warrant calling the next game a full, new , retail disc release.
I don't think it's best creatively and definitely not for value and eventually they WILL over do this and kill this golden egg laying goosey. As it stands I would NEVER buy COD map packs even if the missus BEGS and cosplays as Ada Wong for a month(well, maybe, some of the Zombie maps would be swe...NO! Stop it! Bad woman!)but am i aslone in thinking a more open and prgressive, even episodic DLC approach could lead them away from yearly full releases adn also allow more , proper R&D for the next full release and keep us all more invested in the last game and more expectant for the nmext full game AND the next DLC.
Yes, a full game is more expensive to buy but they're also more expensive to make, package and store, keep the middle retailers happy, haul about the World and so on while some better and more involving DLC would be quicker, cheaper(to make, no storage costs and no packaging and no haulage costs at all AND cheaper for us to buy while spicing up the current game's online and keeping us a strong community)and as a result possibly more profitable both short and long term for Activision and leave them less open to accusations of milking.
I think this would be a great, more gamer friendly and sustainable way of making this series and a lot of the annual EA sports titles too-it'[s REALLY annoying with PES/Fifa when, every year, you have to relearn how to play a game you only just got fluent in after having to do the exact same switch around the year before, and the year before that and...I LOVE Fifa these days but it doesn't merit a yearly update at full retail and I think there's just better ways and ways to be just as profitable while pleasing everyone out there to be used of they just take the bloody blinkers off and stop being short sighted and greedy.
Soz for the "wall "o" text".
NLCanada
Sunday, August 21, 2011 @ 10:13:10 AM
PAKINIPS
Sunday, August 21, 2011 @ 5:18:27 PM
LimitedVertigo
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 9:46:51 PM
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I'm sure there are quite a few that simply jumped on the bandwagon that is BF3 but if only a few of them try the game out I consider it a-okay in my book.
Kinda funny how my least "hardcore"/worst gamer friends flock to the MW series while the friends I love gaming with were there with me during BF2/Tribes/TFC/CSS/SC.
Qubex
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 1:04:19 AM
Lawless SXE
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 9:51:27 PM
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LimitedVertigo
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 9:52:14 PM
Lawless SXE
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 9:59:28 PM
LegendaryWolfeh
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 11:08:14 PM
LegendaryWolfeh
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 12:53:44 AM
kevinater321
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 9:02:54 AM
BikerSaint
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 9:52:58 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 10:12:33 PM
EddPm6
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 10:03:29 PM
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After playing the alpha trial for BF3 i can tell you that that game is going to kick ass becasue its 1.) So damn pretty with FB2 engine. 2.)They are actually doing outside testing
and 3.) Feedback with the game is always listened to by DICE/ EA .
WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 10:07:14 PM
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LazyVigilante
Sunday, August 21, 2011 @ 6:58:01 PM
dmiitrie
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 10:08:48 PM
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I, for one though, don't have anything especially against either CoD or BF (or even Activision), and as a guy who doesn't really like shooters, I'll pass on both of them.
BIGRED15
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 10:13:33 PM
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Nas Is Like
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 10:27:37 PM
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DarthSayver21
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 10:28:57 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 10:38:37 PM
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kokoro
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 11:52:28 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 3:51:14 PM
Killa Tequilla
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 11:07:44 PM
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LegendaryWolfeh
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 2:57:23 AM
LegendaryWolfeh
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 11:09:14 PM
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LimitedVertigo
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 11:54:20 PM
Lawless SXE
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 12:33:01 AM
LegendaryWolfeh
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 12:56:01 AM
Geobaldi
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 12:36:45 PM
556pineapple
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 11:29:47 PM
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LimitedVertigo
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 11:55:31 PM
Qubex
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 1:06:02 AM
LightShow
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 9:06:17 PM
aaronisbla
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 1:27:26 AM
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PSTan
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 2:39:03 AM
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It's probably a society thing, people don't want to differ from the majority opinion and follow it anyway, eventually training themselves to think in a certain way.
I like Battlefield too, but CoD has always been more accessible to me. And in all honesty, the game still has a lot going for it; sales don't lie. People are buying this game for a reason.
Perhaps my only vice with CoD is the fact that other games are trying to emulate its form, or are being overshadowed by its success.
___________
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 4:09:00 AM
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TBH im really tempted to get the opposite.
1 because IW actually have the maturity and confidence to stay mum about it, and 2 they actually have praised BF3.
MW3s community manager was seen playing BF3 for a hour backstage today and he loved it!
now wheres DICE praising MW3?
EA are doing to BF3 what dan greenwalt and his fat mouth did to forza 3.
i was really looking forward to getting it, but because of his constant sh*t talking i did not get it.
i think its time for a boycott of all things EA, till they grow the f*ck up!
my god there acting worse then the nintendo fanboys!
aaronisbla
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 5:20:07 AM
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Its really the only reason why EA is being pretty vocal about it, as annoying as it may be. Remember, thats EA, not DICE doing all this talking.
Same reasons why activision isnt really acknowledging what EA says, simply because by doing so, they will draw attention to a competitors project
BengiePR23
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 5:29:08 AM
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I need some help if you can(anybody), I'm set on buying BF3 on my PS3, but I want to play 64 player matches, my PC is not so old, it's an Acer Aspire AX1300-U1801A, and I would like to know if it's good for gaming, tried google but damnnn! It has: CPU: AMD Athlon X2 7450dual-core processor, Memory: 3GB DDR2, HDD: 320GB and VGA: 8200 Integrated NVIDIA GeForce. Do I need something better or is it good enough? Cause i can't upgrade, I'm in second year of college, don't have too much money! Thanks if anyone can help!
AcHiLLiA
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 9:31:43 AM
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Geobaldi
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 12:43:38 PM
Minimum
Hard Drive Space: 15 GB for disc version or 10 GB for digital version
OS: Windows Vista or Windows 7
Processor: Core 2 Duo @ 2.0GHz
RAM: 2GB
Video Card: DirectX 10 or 11 compatible Nvidia or AMD ATI card
Recommended
Hard Drive Space: 15 GB for disc version or 10 GB for digital version
OS: Windows 7 64-bit
Processor: Quad-core Intel or AMD CPU
RAM: 4GB
Video Card: DirectX 11 Nvidia or AMD ATI card, GeForce GTX 460, Radeon Radeon HD 6850
AcHiLLiA
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 6:48:46 PM
Temjin001
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 7:43:00 PM
Long story short, get it for PS3 or invest in a real gaming computer. U can build em for cheap ;)
Last edited by Temjin001 on 8/20/2011 7:47:49 PM
BengiePR23
Sunday, August 21, 2011 @ 2:30:07 AM
MadKatBebop
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 8:10:45 AM
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Aerifale
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 8:33:47 AM
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BIGRED15
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 11:13:36 AM
Geobaldi
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 12:52:07 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 3:59:57 PM
BIGRED15
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 11:44:14 AM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 1:14:51 PM
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LimitedVertigo
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 6:37:41 PM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 8:59:02 PM
I007spectre
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 3:32:06 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, August 21, 2011 @ 7:12:47 PM
Syn
Sunday, August 21, 2011 @ 7:16:14 PM
On topic, I just bought BFBC2 a couple weeks ago and was shocked at how much I enjoyed the gameplay compared to COD, it was refreshing and felt more tactical, I value that and I believe BF3 will bring it even harder than any previous DICE endeavor. That's why I'm onboard.
nutgobbler
Sunday, August 21, 2011 @ 11:17:51 AM
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solidus_blood
Sunday, August 21, 2011 @ 8:53:37 PM
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Bumcrack
Monday, August 22, 2011 @ 8:58:12 AM
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I've played both titles along side each other and I do prefer the CoD series.
I only play multi player (I do play the single but only for an hour or so to get a feel for the weapons) in both BF and CoD series.
BF servers admins tend to suck if you run a ranked/honour server your not allowed to put "you can't use this weapon"/"no you can't put this item in these locations"
I'm not saying CoD server admins (except MW2 where there wasn't any) are perfect but they are fairer then the BF ones.
Ok that’s not a reason not to like BF but I'll continue.
Weapons:
BF weapons suck - I normally play sniper and to be frank BF sniper rifles are too unrealistic. To me, it’s the downfall of the game. Even as far back as BF2/2142/1942 that simple didn't function as a rifle should. Always failed to register a hit and if you managed to actually hit someone it was pure luck if it actually killed them (even with headshots)
CoD weapons aren't perfect but at least when you snipe you can kill (if its a kill shot and not a shot in the hand/foot) there are some weapons that are overpowered but even then its more skill then just "SPRAY&PRAY". The weapons are far far FAR better. Any gun can kill anyone with a headshot, which for a modern game where people want realism you can't really fault them.
Game play:
BF I've always found it to be team based although you find the "team" is defending its the solo guy (1 or 2) that will find a way around the opposing team and complete what ever it is that needed to be done and this works.
Then again it only take 1 person that’s good in chopper to screw a full team over due to there speed and firepower, if your on the receiving end of one of these such player (normally with a joystick/flight controller) there's very little to be done :'(
CoD in this series there is some "team" play but it is mostly small groups (1-2-3 player) that will complete the objective/defend the objectives but that's not to say that there’s no large team battles like BF.
Unlike BF, the CoD maps are smaller where the BF ones are epically big in some cases and just big in others.
I do enjoy both games and I will be buying both then they get released.
CoD went off track for a lot of people in MW2 especially for PC users. Black Op’s wasn’t amazing either but it was a good game.
BF2 when released wasn’t that good either.
Conclusion – People will find faults in both games, there will be glitches, there will be bugs, there will be hackers.
If you prefer very team orientated game play and big maps then BF is for you
If you prefer small group play, fast action but without having to run the world to get anywhere then CoD is for you
Sorry for the big post
Underdog15
Monday, August 22, 2011 @ 1:14:18 PM
wackazoa
Monday, August 22, 2011 @ 11:01:04 AM
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Also BF3 to me always looks like BFE and that just doesnt sit well.
Last edited by wackazoa on 8/22/2011 11:06:18 AM
79transam
Wednesday, August 24, 2011 @ 8:28:53 AM
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Battlefield 3









NoSmokingBandit
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Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 9:29:17 PM
I dont care about MW3 because there hasnt been a good COD since COD4, and i like what i see about BF3 because it looks like Dice is putting a good bit of effort into every aspect of the game, from story to online.
I'll definitely get both games, but i'll be getting MW3 when it is in the bargain bin. To me its not one game vs another, its just one of many great games this fall and one of many mediocre games that i'll be passing on.