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What Happened To Final Fantasy Versus XIII?

For a while there, it really looked like Square Enix would start to push Final Fantasy Versus XIII. We'd get more than a few behind-closed-doors peeks at gameplay and this great wall of silence concerning information or even baseline details.

But then they announced Final Fantasy XIII-2 and that was it. Versus XIII has taken a definite back seat and personally, I'm a little concerned. It doesn't appear to be on the horizon any time soon, while at the same time, we already have an estimated launch date for FFXIII-2. At the beginning of the year, we started to hear snippets from Japan and that included a few new looks at cinema and gameplay. Then what? Anything? Does anyone remember the first time we heard about Versus XIII?

And you know, they unveiled Final Fantasy Agito XIII (which has since become Final Fantasy Type-0 for the PSP) and with FFXIII-2 everywhere you look, one might assume Versus XIII could be found somewhere. Maybe they'll bring it to this year's Tokyo Game Show but even if they do, I'm not holding out much hope for any significant update. I keep wondering what Square Enix's plan is for this franchise; it seems a little erratic since FFXIII and I'm not entirely sure why... Any ideas?

By this time in 2011, I fully expected the game in question to be a common topic of discussion. There'd be plenty of media and info to talk about. It'd be one of the most anticipated titles. But where is it?

9/2/2011 Ben Dutka

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Comments (67 posts)

StubbornScorpio
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 9:24:30 PM
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I'm in the same boat of apprehension. FF XIII-2 seemed to just come out of nowhere and now there are articles abound concerning the game. I am very positive I read somewhere that FF XIII Versus will NOT be at TGS this year, which makes me quite sad. If Square continues to focus on the main XIII story arc, it may very well push Versus further out of priority than we'd like.

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ZettaiSeigi
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 9:43:57 PM

We're on the same boat, buddy. I want Versus XIII to come out before XIII-2. And I'm not trying to bring up a much-discussed theory, but it amazes me how S-E could release XIII-2 in a very short span of time. Sure, most of the assets are already there, but considering the fact that it took FF XIII five years to come out after it was first announced, it really looks suspicious to a point. I'm sometimes inclined to believe that the "scrapped materials" from XIII are what we're going to see in XIII-2. Oh well...

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StubbornScorpio
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 10:02:14 PM

Yea I kind of see that happening. Oh Square, why can't you give us fans the XIII game we've been wanting for years??

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Codeez
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 10:42:31 PM

Could they possibly take the "XIII" out of the title and make it part of the numbered series? Also, could they pour all their money, time, and effort into it after XIII-2 releases and give the fans a genuine FF experience? Maybe im just clueless, but why does this Versus XIII even have XIII in the title? From all of the information that I have read, and the videos I have seen, it doesn't have anything to do with XIII at all.

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Riku994
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 11:06:03 PM

The XIII is there because it's part of the "Fabula Nova Crystallis: Final Fantasy XIII" which is basically SE's next big money thing after the Compilation of FF7 finished. They want it to last 20 years.. Anyway this started when Nomura decided he didn't like the way Toriyama was going with FF13 so he decided to make it own FF13, hence the "Versus" which is latin for "to go against". I don't know what hand Agito had in this play, but it's since been renamed to Type-0 like Ben said and I'm not even sure it's sill part of the FNC.

And now you know.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 11:11:24 PM

They all exist in the same universe, if not necessarily the same time period or planet. I posit that they should drop the "XIII" as it is synonymous with failure.

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pillz81
Tuesday, September 06, 2011 @ 3:55:34 PM

Square Enix's definition of failure does not match ours.

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ZettaiSeigi
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 9:25:06 PM
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If there's anything that Square-Enix successfully accomplished this console generation, it is to make their fans scratch their heads for some really "weird calls".

When the Fabula-something was announced, I was most excited for FF XIII because it's the big successor. But after playing it and ended up thinking it's a so-so FF game, I thought FF Versus XIII could end up the better home console game. And what do we have now? Yep, FF XIII-2. Whle it looks to improve on the first game, I hope that S-E actually brings out Versus XIII first since they've announced that game more than 5 years ago! If I'm Tetsuya Nomura, I would not be happy about the kind of treatment my game is getting.

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Oxvial
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 9:34:26 PM
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There wasn't even a need for a FFXIII sequel, FXIII-2 is a disservice to the gaming fans, I'm never gonna buy it.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 10:23:27 PM

I think they felt bad that they gave us a crap FF it didn't sell near what it should have, so they wanted to make more money by slightly improving said crap.

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Mog
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 9:42:44 PM
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They most likely forgot about it in the same way they forgot about their fans...

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Riku994
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 9:43:03 PM
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Nomura said to forget about Versus for a while because of 13-2. He didnt say the 13-2 part but we all know it. There's tons of discussions about this on GameFAQs.

Basically Ben what most of the users there think is that once 13-2 is out, the curtains will fly open on this game and we'll start seeing a lot more of it and probably a release date soon after. I'm thinking late 2012 for Japan.

Oh and no Ben, we've been told Versus will not be at TGS.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 10:24:13 PM

it's not on the TGS list, but sometimes things make sneaky appearances.

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Riku994
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 10:42:57 PM

Especially with square enix..

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SnipeySnake
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 12:24:37 AM

"Basically Ben what most of the users there think is that once 13-2 is out, the curtains will fly open on this game and we'll start seeing a lot more of it and probably a release date soon after. I'm thinking late 2012 for Japan."

Like when XIII was released?...

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Riku994
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 12:56:51 AM

Yes, exactly like that. So unless a 13-3 is announced.... O_O

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TheAgingHipster
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 9:44:39 PM
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That's Squeenix for ya. How I long for the PSX glory days.........

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Dancemachine55
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 9:51:00 PM
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Several reasons:

1. Square Enix announce more games than they have time to make.

2. Content was cut out of FF XIII to fit onto 3 Xbox 360 discs. The cut content, along with a whole bunch of new stuff, makes FF XIII-2.

3. Square Enix do not listen to their fans, who clearly care less for a multiplat FF XIII sequel and want the PS3 exclusive FF Versus XIII.

4. Square tend to focus on one project at the expense of another, in this case, FF XIII-2 taking precedence over FF Versus XIII.


I don't know about you guys, but I am really getting fed up with Square Enix this generation. They are so clearly out of touch with their older hardcore fans from the SNES and PS1 days that we know longer care about them or Final Fantasy, AND the new fans they are after are too busy gearing up for Battlefield 3, Modern Warfare 3, Skyrim, Gears of War 3 or Halo Anniversary.

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ZettaiSeigi
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 9:53:35 PM

Agreed, Dancemachine! But unlike you, I'm not longer getting fed up with S-E. I've long been that way with them. LOL

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 11:12:03 PM

That #2 doesn't quite fit, but it is likely true.

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Stabs88
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 8:01:54 AM

Lets not forget that S-E is doing the "reboot" for Tomb Raider. That might be coming out in 2012? or was it later...i remember reading on lot on the reboot. Damn you S-E. Slow your roll with all these games you wanna put out and focus! 1.at.a.time! Get your heads together, disappointing me at almost every turn.
P.S Where is my Kingdom Hearts 3?!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 2:40:59 PM

Eidos is handling that stabs, so it should be right on track. They appear to function on their own beneath SE.

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bigrailer19
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 9:54:22 PM
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I'm kind of glad I never got in FF which is sad to say. But it seems I'd be a very frustrated fan right now if I ever had. And I'd rather just not have that to deal with. Sorry guys. I really hope SE can clear some things up with and for their fans.

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kokoro
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 10:02:16 PM
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So how many games have square enix made for ps3 this generation? Only 1? That's pretty pathetic, considering that it takes naughty dog only two years to create masterpieces. Any may I remind everyone that this game was announced in 2006.

Whenever anything becomes about money, the quality of that thing always suffers.

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Temjin001
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 10:03:29 PM
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hmmm. It's probably not a good sign I think. Does Square have like really limited work personnel or something? I just can't see them doing up all this wonderful CGI (expensive stuff too) and just leave it alone and go quiet. Odd.

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Riku994
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 10:17:04 PM

It's not that the game isn't being worked on, that's not it at all. Nomura isn't allowed to talk about it because of the upcoming release of 13-2.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 10:27:44 PM
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Simple. XIII-2 needs to get all the press right now. If people are made aware that a much better game is coming then they will pass on this one.

My favorite developer of all time now sucks balls. There I said it.

F8ck it, I'm still buyin' it.

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SoulController
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 10:35:31 PM
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I get the feeling that Squareenix is stretched thin in resources, manpower and proper leadership. What an incredible legacy gone down the toilet smh..

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Ludakriss
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 5:01:20 AM

Well hey. Do you remember or are aware on the subject of FF14 on PS3? The team director said he as well as several of the devs are sleepless most days in order to meet deadlines of the project.

Now put that into comparison to Versus. 14 already has guidelines. Versus must be Created right? Extra stress anyone?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 10:48:50 PM
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Keys to success:

- Make Wada publicly apologize for taking the main FF entries multiplat.

- Fire Wada, then burn him in effigy while he drinks Sake at a local dive with whoever told him it was a good idea to ditch FF staples.

- Locate everybody who had a hand in FFVII and put them to work on a remake.

- Stop f*cking with Tetsuya Nomura and his team so they can finish Versus.

- Bring back all things FF ever had including turn based battles for FFXV.

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SoulController
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 11:01:56 PM

Ha! Making Wada apologize would be awesome! I say lets go really Japanese & make him do a public Samurai suicide

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Riku994
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 11:08:41 PM

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/932981-final-fantasy-versus-xiii/60192364

Just read the first post, it's pretty awesome.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 12:27:07 AM

haha, Square Enix is not at ALL cool enough to think of that Riku. I'd be all over that sh*t.

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Ludakriss
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 5:03:50 AM

Amen brotha! Ooh, praise Enix =D I so wish there would be a day in a year where devs would only speak absolute truth like in Liar Liar.

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Alienange
Friday, September 02, 2011 @ 11:48:53 PM
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I think it's time we admitted to ourselves that the FF franchise has gone the way of the dodo. The games are a mere hint of their former selves and the company that makes them is far more interested in publishing than developing.

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SmokeyPSD
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 2:52:41 AM

Amen

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 3:51:00 AM

yeah that pretty much sums it up.

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SnipeySnake
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 12:22:16 AM
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Maybe something happened and they just can't continue? So instead of disappointing a lot of fans they just keep quiet?....Not sure but i don't plan on buying FFXIII-2 to teach them a lesson....probably won't do much but theres nothing else i can do :/

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Russell Burrows
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 12:49:25 AM
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I smell a PS4 launch game as far as VERSUS.???????????

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Ludakriss
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 5:11:25 AM

Personally I think that would be such a pain betwixt the balls that I might actually explode.

Of course one might add info together and understand that comment like "gameplay & CGI differ very little" and the time of silence from Squeenix would kind of point towards it.

Seriously though. Are you one of those who are really eager to see a new Play station? Because I ain't rich, bro.

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Naruto Uchiha
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 3:26:32 AM
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If they release official trailers and more information of Versus XIII then XIII-2 won't get any attention.Everybody wants this game to come out already including me and i'm pretty sure Square Enix knows that so now they're focusing on FFXIII-2 which i'm not planning on buying.

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Vivi_Gamer
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 3:55:50 AM
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There is something wrong here, I was really expecting a later 2011 release for this. XIII has already been out for a year. I guess they just don't want a title to takes get inbetween the two XIII parts, so it does not take away it's spotlight; Even though most fans seem to be against it anyway. I for one welcome XIII-2, while I would have prefered Versus XIII or XV, I can settle for this for now.

But when will we get Versus XIII... This is the billion dollar question, I fear now that it might not even be until 2013.... Which is tragic. That 7 minute trailer at the beginning of the year showed SO much progress, it's what really sold me on the title. But, now it's just vanished. I hoep they not making Type-0 a priority (Which is also getting a sequel...) As rom what I played of the japanese demo, I was not impressed.

As for the FFVII give it a rest seriously, I don't want S-E fannying about with something they can just never replace. If you sit down and play Final Fantasy VII, You'll find it is juts was wonderful to play now as it was years ago, next gen graphics or not.

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___________
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 4:37:27 AM
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dont care!
sorry, but $E has been nothing but disappointment after disappointment this gen!
from FFXIII going MP, to FFXIIIs style change, to versus turning into vapour ware, to their refusal of bringing KH to consoles, to there refusal to let BBs onto the PSN for GO users.
$E is dead to me!

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Excelsior1
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 6:06:22 AM
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what is it with japanese develpopers taking FOREVER to crank out a game? the last guardian is taking ages as well.

is this game being ported over to 360 as we speak? i don't think anyone would be shocked by that considering the way se has treated the ps3 this gen.

odds are we will here more about this game after ff13-2's release. i do find that we know so little about it disturbing. same goes for the last guardian.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 9:42:50 AM

Forget about Japanese developers when it comes to delays. PC devs take the cake. Diablo III, Duke Nukem Forever, Half-Life (where's 3?), etc.

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Temjin001
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 11:19:01 AM

I hope to play Starcraft Ghost by the time I'm 40 =p

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Excelsior1
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 1:27:41 PM

@ben
forgive me. i am not well versed on the pc side of gaming. frankly, i don't see how that's relevant to this topic. it does seem like japanese game production has dropped considerably when compared to previous generations and their western counterparts. gt5 forever. the last guardian forever. ffvs13 forever. bioware and naughty dog have managed to crank out several games or more during this time when compared to their japanese counterparts. so i'm not going to forget about it. half the reason they are becoming more irrelevant in the gaming industry is becuase they don't even make games anymore. i sense some over protection of the japanese gaming industry in your reply. that's fine, but i think they deserve to be called out on their lack of production on the hd consoles.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 2:42:06 PM

Japanese devs are pretty slow compared to western ones.

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Kagamin
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 8:07:22 AM
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From what I heard, more info on the game will only appear probably at Jump Festa in December after FFXIII-2 launches in Japan...It sucks but they are trying to focus on FFXIII-2 right now. After that is out of the way I believe will see more info of Versus.
I believe Versus will be a holiday 2012 game with a English version only in 2013 =(

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Russell Burrows
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 10:03:56 AM
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@Kagamin
If we are lucky we get it 2013.

Sadly SE is a total letdown these days.
I am undecided if the delays are V 13 shifted to PS4 or a 360 port of V 13??????

Either way SE sucks!!!
Not buying FF 13-2!!

If FF V13 gets ported to 360 then not buying any SE crap!!!

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gungrave
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 11:26:32 AM

Just speak with your wallet. 13 went down in price faster than any major AAA game this genaration. You can find 13 brand new for $20 bucks now.

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Ludakriss
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 1:00:42 PM

Man. I remember when you went into a store and wanted an RPG. There you go. PS2 shelves are stocked with that Sh.t! No one even used the word "exclusive" you just knew that this experience was on PS and the such concept just...fit. Didn't it?

I hereby also kinda make a pact that if SE were to go multiplatform they'd hurt me as a person who's used to seeing quality products on quality console. No offence to any other console and if you're about 20 you'll understand what I mean. I will not buy it.

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SolidFantasy
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 10:58:07 AM
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Wow. I was so stoked for this one when I first heard about who knows how long ago. It's becoming the ghost game of this generation.

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gungrave
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 11:23:48 AM
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it's like what they did for ff10-2, they just used the existing engine from ff10. Made them a quick buck and they didn't have to invest a lot to develop it, which also translates to a shorter development cycle. I'm sure square is doing the same with FF13-2. I'm sure they are still working on versus 13 but it makes sense for them to release 13-2 first since the engine, characters, and game mechanics are alredy in place.

btw, I fully expect to versus 13 go multiplatform.

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tes37
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 12:47:55 PM
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I think I know what happened to FF Versus XIII. It's part of the SE program of consistency. So far this gen, SE hasn't given fans what they want. Everyone wants Versus XIII, so it's been shelved until the desire to play it has dissipated.

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Mystearica
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 6:18:27 PM
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My guess... they probably made a game with similar elements as FFXIII (example no towns, shops etc) and realized that fans hated those aspects and now they are backtracking/reconstructing new elements to the game hoping it won't flunk. So they are very hush about it

All the more makes me want another Atlus title (SMT? Persona?)

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Riku994
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 6:59:35 PM

No, the whole point of this game was to combat everything FF13 was doing.

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Sogi_Otsa
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 7:32:32 PM

plus we've already seen towns... and they have mentioned world maps and forms of transportation. it's a fantasy based on a reality after all. expect some epic sauce.

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Jonesy555
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 6:58:18 PM
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Yeah. I've given up hope on this game and Kingdom Hearts III. Where I wasn't really attached to FFvsXIII, I love...er, loved the Kingdom Hearts series, but with the last major release in the series being close to a decade old (2005, here it is 2011 and we heard nothing of the game), a lot of the people who played the first game has grown up and could care less about Disney. Maybe if I see something about either game, excitement might rise again, but as of now, I truly could care less.

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Riku994
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 6:59:56 PM

KH3 isn't being made until after FFV13.

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Sogi_Otsa
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 7:33:50 PM

ya know over 5 years ago i saw a 'leaked design' for sora. and then DDD is gonna tighten the story up for the 3rd. which will be eyond our expectations.

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FullmetalX10
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 7:10:21 PM
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The only reason for XIII-2 to come out fast now is so I can get some more info about Versus, I mean come on S-E, do you just hate your former fans or something, geez -__-

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Sogi_Otsa
Saturday, September 03, 2011 @ 7:28:29 PM
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13-2 is a terrible idea. but... maybe it's making up for 13 some how, maybe to bring in the old fans more.
BUT i doubt that'd work. i may pick this up early on. this money is making V13 quite possibly. if they want it perfect they need more money.Delvs always need money. and XIII-1 didn't bring much to the table no? the end scenes of XIII made me like the game more but still... it was a boring trek through hell to get there. once 13-2 moves aside and all we'll hear more on V-13, they have type-0 to release too. once those to are out more people will work on VXIII Nomura won't screw us over. he just has to earn the money for the big one!

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DeathOfChaos
Sunday, September 04, 2011 @ 1:24:46 PM
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The way I look at it:

If it's not under the spotlight, there is no real rush. And if there is no real rush, more time for them to make it perfect.

Everybody, if you just let them work on it without worrying about NOW NOW NOW, you'll get the perfect game we're waiting for! FFXIII was all about NOW NOW NOW because it was advertised and so much info was given out, they had to hurry and get it out there, it had already seen too much spot light to be worked on any longer. (Oh, and XBox didn't help). Remember when everyone found out that the PS3 is harder to develop for? Well they are squeezing out what they can from the PS3 since it's an exclusive and make this game what they (and the fans) want it to be. I'm excited that they're taking their time making Versus a masterpiece while everyone else is extremely impatient. Patience is a virtue, and in this situation, it will pay off. =]

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Ludakriss
Sunday, September 04, 2011 @ 3:30:10 PM

Brother's speaking some truth. xD Have to appreciate the irony of how this article is the "impatient" detail in your theory and how you as the "patient" detail in your argument have to express your thoughts on an impatient platform =)

Just an observation. However, I am fully behind you (no homo =) with your thoughts. I am all for this game being for one, a PS3 only experience and actually being a good experience. So we can finally, in this generation, point a finger to an HD generation's example of more or less, a real RPG. Right?

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DeathOfChaos
Sunday, September 04, 2011 @ 1:31:24 PM
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Oh, and the money that the sales from XIII-2 will rake in? More money for Versus no doubt ;) As well as the sales from Type-0. They're overhauling the perfect game with the most powerful system out there and all this marketing and new FF titles springing out of nowhere? It's kind of like the whole Fabula Nova Crystalis project's sole purpose is to... fuel Versus... Whoa, if so, imagine how badass it will be! :D I also am guessing that teleporting move they said they're not sure will make the final cut if it doesn't work right... I'm sure that's of high priority (at least in the smaller mechanics of the game) Gotta think, people! Lol.

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Kabuki
Sunday, September 04, 2011 @ 10:03:04 PM
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I've pretty much lost complete faith in SE at this point. FF Versus XIII is the game I really want to play, and I could care less about FFXIII-2 (I didn't care for XIII, so I don't understand the need for XIII-2). I wish SE would get their act together and finish a product most people really want to play *points to Versus XIII and KH3* But I'm not holding my breath.

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