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Would You Ditch Physical If Digital Was Cheaper?

Analysts say it's inevitable: at some point in the industry's future, all games will be in digital format. Physical media will die. It might take some time, but we're already starting to see evidence of the shift, and developers and publishers are supporting it.

As usual, it always comes down to a question of money. Developers have been complaining throughout the generation that games have become too expensive to make, and taking risks is ill-advised. At the same time, gamers continue to complain about the supposed high cost of games (the fact that a SNES cartridge cost $60 nearly 20 years ago doesn't seem to matter to such complainers), and publishers have made it plain that digital delivery is simply more efficient.

So if both the manufacturer and consumer gets things done for a cheaper cost, isn't that a good thing? It's a no-brainer for the game makers, but will gamers who value their physical, tangible game collections opt for a digital copy of a game if it's cheaper? How much cheaper would it have to be? Of course, if we don't even have the option between digital and physical, this isn't even a question, anymore. But we should have the option for quite a while, right? What would you choose?

In my experience, people talk big about what they want, but the instant you save 'em a few bucks, they change their tune. It's a little depressing, but that's how things work.

11/4/2011 Ben Dutka

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Comments (107 posts)

Oyashiro
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 9:30:45 PM
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While I think digital should be cheaper then retail, my answer is still no. I am a die-hard collector.

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Cpt_Geez
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 9:44:18 PM

Yeah I'm with you on this one the answer is still no.

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ZettaiSeigi
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 11:43:46 PM

Same here. I want the things I purchase to be tangible. Particularly if they've been like that since the get go. I wouldn't mind going digital for the portable games (like on the PSP) since they don't take long too long to download. But for PS3 games? I don't think so.

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Qubex
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 10:01:24 PM

I hear you, but it is still tempting to be able to buy your games at 20% less than they currently are. Theoretically, with digital, companies could "virtualise" box art and additional content for an extra price. You would always be able to get to your content, the only difference is you would see the box in HD on a virtual shelf, and still be able to explore it virtually.

Gamers who have not spent the extra money, would simply get the game as the would normally. Idea is you could have a very nice virtual collection with all the trimmings.

I guess it will never be the same as actually owning the box itself right?

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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manofchao5
Sunday, November 06, 2011 @ 5:34:34 PM

unless its a 30% savings or higher it doesnt interest me

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Excelsior1
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 9:42:03 PM
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i don't buy the analyst predictions that the physical medium will ever completely die. publisher's would be ignoring a big chunk of the market in less developed areas. i also see little evidence that publishers would pass along the savings to gamers. in fact i think we would end up paying more. there would be less pressure to lower prices to move games off the shelves. publishers want this so bad. i would be surprised if some these analyst are in the pockets of some the big publishers. call me cynical.

i have bought some games on psn. they are on my hard drive. it's just not the same as looking at big gaming collection.

BIKERSAINT would probably have a stroke if we ever went to an all digital medium since he's an avid collector of games.

my answer is no.

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Excelsior1
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 10:03:46 PM

edit:

i would NOT be surprised.

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Axe99
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 5:48:44 AM

That'd be true if the games industry was monopolistic or oligopolistic, but it's actually highly competitive. If you look at all-digital services like Steam, there are frequent heavy discounts to encourage people to pick up games, and prices drop fairly quickly (often quicker than retail). The PSN has had similar things happen. If pubs/devs could set their own prices in the digital space come what may, then this wouldn't be happening.

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LimitedVertigo
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 9:45:34 PM
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YES.

Ever since Steam I see all the benefits to digital over physical. Especially since I seldom if ever resell my games.

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bigrailer19
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 11:31:03 PM

Hard drive space isn't as big an issue for PC's as it is consoles. Especially the PS3 where you can't just swap out HDD's like a memory card, when you have to re-format any unfamiliar HDD. This may not be how future consoles are but as of right I don't want to spend any amount of money on a game only to have to delete it to clear space.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 11:34:39 PM

Yeah. I always knew PCers weren't real gamers. ;)

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dmiitrie
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 12:13:53 AM

I'm right with you LV. I really can't fathom ever buying a physical copy of a pc game again. I also wish that Sony would start adopting some more of Steam's business model, specifically simultaneous releases!

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LegendaryWolfeh
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 12:20:17 AM

Well, I would 'Never' buy a physical PC game again either, steam just makes it so easy. Though I would never want to ever buy a digital PS3 or any other console game. It just feels like I'm being too ripped off in that situation. And I like having my physical discs for it.

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LimitedVertigo
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 12:25:09 AM

@bigtrailer


You can get a 1tb PS3 hard drive for under $100. I honestly don't get how people can complain about space when HDs are so cheap now. I see it as a bogus complaint to justify not downloading digital content.

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bigrailer19
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 1:02:35 AM

Oh I'll download the hell outta stuff. I'm not complaining about space right now. But I would be if we were in this situation. I got plenty of games I've downloaded right now. My point is disc based games like GT5 and MGS4 just to name a couple for example are bound to take up huge amounts of space, add download times and it's just to much of a hassle. If I had to download each one of my games onto my machine, and I'm not a betting man, but it would probably take alot of HDD space. I say that with confidence because as of right now probably only 60-70 percent of my games are on my current PS3. My other PS3 died about 3 years ago along with all the other save files, because once again I couldn't take that HDD and throw it in my new PS3 with out reformatting. Anyways my 320 is almost full. If all my games were on one HDD I'd be willing to bet it would fill up a 500GB.

Now I would think it would most likely be more than double the HDD space, to download a digital copy of a game, than it does using the disc to install the same game. I could be wrong but indications say otherwise. Again I'm talking about consoles.

That's just games though. What about those who like to have music, movies and other forms of media on there consoles? There's a lot to this conversation.

I agree for PC's it's probably epic and great. For consoles though, it's not a very beneficial thing.



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oldmike
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 1:51:27 AM

i like being to play a game the same day i pay for it
cant do that with any full size game downloaded

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LimitedVertigo
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 2:34:49 AM

@big

I agree some games are massive and require a large amount of space (Rage requiring 25gigs) but as a whole I don't see a problem with space and my massive digital collection.

@oldmike

Steam allows you to download games days before they actually release and unlock them the day of release. I usually end up playing games sooner than my friends that pick them up at the store due to this. While they're on their way there or waiting for a delivery I already own and am playing the game.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 2:58:41 AM

Another thing about console gaming, if you've already filled up your hdd, the only way to get more space, is to buy another ps3 to either data transfer or use entirely new. Since sticking a hdd into a ps3, no matter when, will always force you to reformat the hdd before using.

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bigrailer19
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 3:36:25 AM

Well like I said I see the benefits, especially in steam. I just can't helpy but wonder what I'd do if I ever ran out of space.

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Rtk_13
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 6:11:33 AM

Find a friend who owns a external HDD with enough space to back up to it I did that when I still had my 60GB HDD while I swapped for my 500GB I'm not sure how the HDD needs to be formatted though doesn't the PS3 only recognise FAT32 storage devices?

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Rtk_13
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 6:28:24 AM

yup only FAT32 just checked :P

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bigrailer19
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 1:25:45 PM

Thing is you can't back up alot of game data. Most of it has copyrights, so that eliminates the using an external HDD. That's only good for backing up data, not transferring full games, it doesn't work.

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LimitedVertigo
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 3:09:00 PM

big,

I have my PS3 content backed up and while some of the data is protected I haven't had a problem with a majority of the data I have. So I think a majority isn't protected while a small amount is.

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bigrailer19
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 4:32:09 PM

Limited,

Sorry yea your right. I re-read my paragraph and I mixed some things up. Yes probably very little data is copy right protected although some is. But what I was getting at is if you have an installed game, say something from the PSN your not backing up the install, just the saved data file. I've backed up my system 2x recently and only a few games of mine have copyrighted files, I believe RDR and Transformers: WfC for certain. Obviously I can't transfer my digital games, just the save data for them.

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tes37
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 9:47:40 PM
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I know that eventually I'll have no choice in the matter, but I prefer physical copies. I feel bad for buying any digital games because I know I'm helping to bring about the demise of the game library sitting on my shelf.

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gray_eagle
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 10:06:09 PM
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physical copies for me, i can'nt keep buying digital games if my hdd is full.
going digital will just save money from shipping and putting the game on
a disc, but it wont be any cheaper creating a game.

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cLoudou
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 10:10:23 PM
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While I prefer physical media, I would buy digital if it were significantly cheaper. Buying the physical copies for only select titles like exclusives.

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Clamedeus
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 2:09:21 PM

The only problem I have with digital is massive downloads with some games. I don't mind having both physical and digital though, hopefully physical doesn't get phased out, which i think won't happen but anything can happen these days.

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Kiryu
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 10:15:13 PM
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Yes i would!

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Jawknee
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 10:29:25 PM
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No.

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tes37
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 6:14:10 AM

Killa Tequilla seems to think you're MIA.

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Excelsior1
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 8:17:14 AM

jawk has been mia since the wii thread. even his 1 word reply here makes me think he is still a little mad. i could be wrong, but to be honest i would not blame him for being mad.

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Jawknee
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 9:23:26 AM

Ha, I'm over it. Just been busy with trade shows and getting ready to spend another month in California with the band coming this January. Lots of work to do before I go.

Oh and I have also been busy playing Starfox and Zelda on my new 3DS. ;)

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Excelsior1
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 9:48:33 AM

nice. long live nintendo :).

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telly
Sunday, November 06, 2011 @ 10:10:08 AM

@Jawk, any chance your band has a web site? My band is getting some recordings together now we'll be posting online pretty soon, pretty exciting!

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Jawknee
Sunday, November 06, 2011 @ 1:16:52 PM

Telly, we had a website but it is no more. We mostly use Facebook now. Look us up.

Hit the Switch.

Hit me up on PSN. I'd like to here more about your music.

PSN ID: Jawknee1

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dkmrules
Sunday, November 06, 2011 @ 11:26:59 PM

Where in California?

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Jawknee
Monday, November 07, 2011 @ 11:34:09 AM

Riverside.

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LunaticFringe
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 11:01:37 PM
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Yes, I would buy digital if it was cheaper. I'm not always playing every game I own, so I don't mind downloading/reinstalling titles to save harddrive space.

Also, games are so expensive to make. I hate seeing game developers go out of business because of poor sales. If games cost less, we can buy more games.Wouldn't games be cheaper to make? Then we could buy more games. Smaller studios can begin to make better games and stay in business. Cheaper games. More games to buy. Better variety of games. Everyone wins.

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TheCanadianGuy
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 11:01:55 PM
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absolutely not i'm old school.

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Mr Bubbles IGR
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 11:04:21 PM
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I really enjoy my physical collection. The price difference would have to be more that $10-20 difference. And not until i know that if my hard drive crashes that i would still be able to recover/not-have-to-repurchase-everything, that was on it.

Solid state drives should be in every future game system that has digital media only. There are no moving parts, so it wont fail and its alot faster than standard hard drives. Which would allow for better download and install times.

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Geobaldi
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 11:05:52 PM
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I switched to digital maybe 4-5 years ago when I joined Steam. Since then I've sold off most of my physical collection, except for collector's editions, favorites, and so on. My Steam account now has 832 games, plus a few others on other digital distribution sites, and I maybe have around 100 or so physical games left.

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SubjectiveTruth
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 11:10:34 PM
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It would have to be cheap enough to compensate for the extra data space I would have to pay for (HDDs or whatever it is in the future)and for the fact that I can't re sell it which is a big deal.

WTF happens if you don't like it?? This is a serious question. I fully expected to be blown away by Red Dead Redemption, I liked the first and I love GTA so why wouldn't I like it? So I bought it over some other game I can't remember. I ended up hating it and thank god I was able to sell it to a friend for 40 bucks.

So either digital games will some how have to be able to be refunded or developers will have to release demos that are long enough to represent enough of a game that you sure you wanna whip your credit card out. I'm sure we can all recall games that were awesome for the first couple stages and then got repetitive.

Also, what about people who have band width restrictions?

There is a lot to this and in my personal opinion I think physical media should be here to stay for anything that costs more than 20 bucks.

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bigrailer19
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 11:37:06 PM
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Digital should be far cheaper anyways and it's not. Ive noticed some games are releasing in stores and along side on the PSN and they are the same price, probably to keep sales on a median, but regardless.

I won't ever support all digital for two reasons. One I like my copies of games. Short n' sweet. Two, hard drive space is too limited. Especially with the PS3. You are literally limited to one HDD per PS3, as soon as you re-format a new HDD the old is out along with all the saves. I'm only using the PS3 as an example, to point out how restricted and limited all digital would be. I'm not one to buy a game then have to delete it so I can clear space to buy another. I can't imagine the size GT5 would be if it wasn't on a disc, and I further can't imagine how long it would take to download. The idea is insane, at least for consoles.

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Warrior Poet
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 11:38:40 PM
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All the folks who like to spend $60 on new games every week would run out of hard drive space and stop buying games, that's what would happen :P

Areas in the world with no or slow internet would be cut out, as well as people who just like collections.

As for me? I'll just stop buying consoles if everything goes digital. Heh.

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79transam
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 11:44:36 PM
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I do not buy digital because it is the same price. It would need to be 15 bucks cheaper to get me to go digital

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VampDeLeon
Friday, November 04, 2011 @ 11:49:43 PM
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Music wise, of course. I can't seem to do that with games though since they hold way too much content to not be kept in a physical form.

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JackDillinger89
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 12:07:15 AM
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No way jose. I always prefer physical media. This is why pspgo failed. Not to mention it would take ages to download games especially games like uncharted 3 with 50 gigs are you nuts that take a week to download. Were a long way from digital only media. I feel like i have no control over what i paid for. Physical media all the wayfor me till the day i die.

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Russell Burrows
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 12:27:09 AM
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BD100 and BD200 blu ray discs for me.
And BD500 and BD1000 for more advanced games for me.

Digital? no thanks!! I have Infamous in digital and I am not pleased since I want a disc instead.

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King_Krollen
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 12:41:01 AM
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No, I would not ditch physical if digital were cheaper. If I pay for something I wanna be able to hold it in my grubby lil hands, not jus look at it. Besides, if something goes wonky, not only do you lose your game save you lose your game.

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dmiitrie
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 3:49:40 AM

Things can go wrong just as easily, if not moreso, with disks. They can get scratched, broken, stolen, lost, etc. and you're out your money there as well. With digital though, if something goes wrong, you can always DL it again. And with cloud saves, you won't even have to start over.

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Wendell
Sunday, November 06, 2011 @ 1:12:48 PM

When my first PS3 got the red screen of death I had no problem getting Quest for Booty or DLC loaded on the replacement console from the PSN store. We lost all of our game saves but we got all of our downloadable paid content back.

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CrusaderForever
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 12:43:32 AM
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Physical because I don't trust that games that I buy will be available forever. Companies go under and servers disappear. If there was a way to guarantee that the games I buy would always be available forever that would be great. Also, digital games would have to be able to work without an internet connection. They would need to be realistically $10 cheaper. The devs have to make some money.

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dmiitrie
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 4:06:24 AM

There's no guarantee that games will last 'forever' even with discs. When things get old, even high quality things, they stop working as well sometimes. Backwards compatibility, btw, is also much easier to achieve digitally as well

And, although Internet is obviously required to DL games, it is not required to play them. Total lack of Internet though will always be a giant problem for digital access. Hopefully though, when this becomes the norm (IF it becomes the norm), Internet access will be much more widely available in more parts of the world than it currently is.

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firesoul453
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 1:02:33 AM
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NO

not unless it was like a %75 difference and even then only on some games

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godsdream
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 1:35:50 AM
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Nooooo, I will always want my physical copy no matter what.

Hmm... Maybe someday my complete collection of Final Fantasy games will be worth thousands of dollars!!

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godsdream
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 2:28:27 AM
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I just remembered something that a lot of people seems to forget, there are pollution problems as well, so this is going to happen sooner or later I guess.

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556pineapple
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 2:40:04 AM
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I don't trust purely digital. Physical all the way for me.

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Beamboom
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 3:19:28 AM

Actually, digital is safer than a disk. A disk can get one serious scratch and you are screwed. If your hard disk gets ruined just get a new one and re-download the games you own.

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556pineapple
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 1:30:49 PM

Yeah, but I take care of my discs, and with blu-ray, it's easier than ever. As for downloading previous purchases over again, the systems for storing that information are getting better, but I've had problems before of companies losing my purchase history. And some *cough*APPLE*cough* require you purchase something again if you fail to back it up and lose it.

And another thing. I was in a serious financial pinch earlier this year. As much as I didn't like it, I had to liquidate most of my collection of PS3 games. If it were purely digital, I wouldn't have had that option unless I sold my PS3, and then legally I couldn't have sold those games with it. It's just not to the point where I think digital distribution can be a legitimate substitute for physical media, but that doesn't mean I don't think it ever will be.

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BikerSaint
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 3:32:21 PM

Beamboom,
If someone allows their discs to get scratched up, especially with these much more resistant Blurays, then they don't take care of their games & they surly don't deserve to even touch any of them IMHO.

BTW, that's why I'd never buy a used rental game from places like Blockbuster, etc, cause you know that since it doesn't belong to them, that most kids won't bother taking care of it while it's in their possession.

Hell, just look at some of GameStop's trade-in's, lots of the USED games for sale on their shelves are are missing the manuals or cover art, and/or even the case itself is screwed up.

So, as far as I'm concerned, people don't take care of their games, aren't gamers at all, they're just grade-A a$$-holes.....
.....and you can quote me on that!

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johnld
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 10:13:48 PM

@bikersaint

rental stores usually have pretty good deals with them but like you i dont trust the quality of their games. so heres what i do, if theres a good deal at a rental store like blockbuster, i'll buy it. then i'll buy the same game from gamestop used. i take what i want like manuals and the game disc, then return the blockbuster copy to gamestop for a full refund. they never ask you whether you bought the game at gamestop with everything or not because they just typically buy the game back then put it straight on the shelf after putting a price on it.

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BikerSaint
Sunday, November 06, 2011 @ 2:23:52 PM

johnld,
The only Blockbuster around me closed down over 4 years ago, now there's only kiosks about 4 towns away.

I only tried buying used games from BB one time when it was open & it was a rotten experience.

All 7 games were sealed in cellophane, so I asked if all there games were complete, and with the manuals, which the register biscuit said they were.

But once i got them home, not one of them had any manuals, so back they went for a full refund.
And I've never dealt with Blocbuster since.

Besides GameStop(where I can actually inspect every game myself), I mostly deal with 2 mom & pop stores, where all their USED games are cheaper & they make sure that the condition of their trade-in's are in tip-top shape(plus I'd much rather keep my money recycling right back into my community than going to corporate GameStop).

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___________
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 3:11:47 AM
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depends how much cheaper.
30+ bucks maybe, but its also nice to have the box and manual and stuff to enjoy.
plus if its DL then no trading in or lending to friends or selling.
unless they find a way around that then i doubt id buy anything DL only unless it was significantly cheaper, like 80% off.
recently picked up NFS most wanted, carbon, undercover, and hot pursuit off steam for 40 bucks!
if they were that cheap then yea id definitely jump in, but otherwise no point just far too many cons up against the pros.
everyone likes saving money, but not at the cost of a pain in the a$$!

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Beamboom
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 3:15:45 AM
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I remember me saying the same thing about music some years ago: I would never ditch physical disks, the cover art and stuff is too essential.
Today I have transferred to 100% digital music collection, I've even digitized all my CDs and records and sold them, and I never look back.
And yes, I still buy music, I am a quite good customer at Beatport.

Also, I've bought quite a few games on my mobile, and it's not really that bad. Especially since the games are *so* cheap.

So, my answer is "yes", based on experience.


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Raze22
Sunday, November 06, 2011 @ 12:39:46 AM

The music industry didn't go completely digital. So what makes you think video games would lol?! To answer the question, regardless of what happens I will be getting both physical and digital just like my music collection. Not having the "both" option exist would be losing money unless they are just not making enough to justify it. A situation similar to localizing games. If I really don't have an option and I'm forced. Then my alternative would be stop gaming. Which will never happen.

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this comment wasn't suppose to be a response to beamboom, but the article in general.

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Ershin
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 9:10:56 AM
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Nope. Most of my gaming comes from extremely hard-found bargain bin/trade-ins. So I definitely NEVER pay full price for a game. Last full-price game, Uncharted 2. Like above, even if it was mathematically equal, I'd go with physical. If it was like 30% cheaper then a trade deal, I'd consider it.

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Snaaaake
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 10:23:59 AM
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I would for 2 reasons:
1)Being 30% cheaper
2)File size not being too big

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friction
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 11:06:03 AM
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I prefer digital over physical, idc about the price i'd still pay 60 for a game like uncharted 3.

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BikerSaint
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 11:45:52 AM
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My firm answer to the question.....

"NO"

FYI, although I do have about 10-12 DL titles(EX: From Dust, & inFamous:Festival Of Blood), no matter how good they may be, I will forever "HATE" on these DL games just because I can't see them up on my shelves, all nestled nicely, & alphabetically, among my other 2,293 physical games.

And IMHO, that's the most horrendous of crimes against all of us hardcore collectors.

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godsdream
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 2:06:13 PM

Amen.

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Rogueagent01
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 7:46:09 PM

I agree. And people like you are the reason "digital only" is a pipedream that will never happen. Sure in the future you'll see the majority of things being offered mainly in digital but there will still always be hard copies.

Just like the music industry many people thought it was going to go digital only and the funny thing, is that you can still buy vinyl so sorry it will never go all digital. Where there is customer there is also a business person ready to take advantage.

Honestly if everything went digital only it would be time for me to take on some new hobbies.

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sha4dowknight05
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 11:48:23 AM
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If I had no choice of getting the physical media then yes I would. The only thing about digital is is couldn't sell it or let other people borrow it, or if i lost my account i could not get it again.

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Skatejimmy5
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 11:50:53 AM
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I love having smaller, cheaper games on my harddrive, but I don't want to buy full games like Crysis, Burnout and everything else that's available online. I still want my collection to be visible in my home, both for myself and for people that visit. I just love opening the mail box on the release date of something I pre-ordered. Unwrapping the box, the plastic and then opening the case for the first time...

You won't ever get that same feeling of sensation from downloading a game from the Store. I'll never stop buying physical media. The same goes for movies and music as well.

That's just the way it is. ;)

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burnedknight
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 11:56:53 AM
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The answer for me is still no I would rather have the physical copy but i think digital should be cheaper anyway.

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shadowscorpio
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 12:26:02 PM
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If we ever do go completely digital, I just wonder if the need for multiple consoles would end up becoming irrelevant?

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Douchebaguette
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 12:45:45 PM
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Funny that, because at the moment on average full games on Steam and PSN tend to cost more than it's physical alternative. Even Skyrim's preorder is more expensive than on Play. Steam does tend to give weekly deals and bonuses though.


I believe the biggest issue the majority have with converting to digital is trust. When you break a disc, it's your fault (or your dog's/brother's etc.). But with digital, where there's possibilites of bugs, glitches and no refunds, you will instead Rage Against the Machine.

I personally reckon they'd take advantage of price when such an outbreak eventually consumes the market. I'd also miss the new book smell along with the excitement of making a journey to the city centre just to awe at it's plastic seal and bask in it's warm glowing warming glow.


Won't happen for a while though. Place with a terrible standard of internet connections in various parts of the world wouldn't be able to viably enjoy videogames, which would lead to a lack of sales for consoles, especially Sony. And Sony won't be evil by ditching their fanbase, which is why I like them.



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DjEezzy
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 2:00:03 PM
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If digital came to be as cheap as it would be for me to trade in some games every once in a while then yeah i'd be down. I have kids and i'm always worried about them scratching my blu rays and games. Entertainmart here in colorado won't accept any blu ray or game ps3 game that has any time type of scratch or nick on it. I'm talking natural wear and tear type scratches. Nothing that would make the game skip or anything. Pretty crazy actually. I thought they were joking when the told me that. LOL. Anyway, i'm always for cheaper. Not much of a collector although i do like a collection of games. Really though, it wouldn't matter to me if that collection is on a hard drive or an actual physical collection.

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DjEezzy
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 2:00:46 PM
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wow... you'd think i was drunk by the way my comment turned out. lol. Sorry ya'll

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dillonthebunny
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 2:14:46 PM
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maybe im getting old? maybe im just changing.. but I never thought I would ever chose digi over a physical item.

but since the psn has been doing full games, my attitude has changed.

some games I feel that you want a piece of history, I still own the Ico and SotC originals with the art work, I still own the Ltd ed JP GT4 pack, but what of the new games?

if it was cheaper, yeah.. I could be swayed. I like my PS3 to be the swiss army console, you know.. its does everything! its the way I run my psp, its the way I run my phone...

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AugustoDeItalia
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 3:54:05 PM
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i would! the only problem is that you have to download it and some games are really big ...

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GuyverLT
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 4:13:32 PM
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Only reason I would even consider digital over physical copies is if it's cheaper the way I see it the cheaper the games the more money you can save to buy more.

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mk ultra
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 5:48:33 PM
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I like my collection too much. I still haven't gone digital on any of my music and don't even have an mp3 player. I like tangible things, i'm the same way with my investments. I'll take physical disks and gold over digital and paper money any day.

By the way, HAPPY GUY FAWKES DAY EVERYBODY!

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BigBoss4ever
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 7:13:58 PM
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answer for me is simple, for absolute greatest titles (talking about Uncharted, MGS, GOW, Demon Souls etc), i want to collect the limited edition in physical forms, as i always did; for normal good games, if digital is half price or substantially cheaper (talking about 59.99 vs 39.99 or so), i will just download the digital copy.

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Teddie9
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 9:00:07 PM
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I'd say 20 bucks cheaper might do it for me. Then again I do love my mini library.

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trumpetmon65
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 9:17:18 PM
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only with a big enough hard drive. I'd love to if it meant I got games 15 to twenty bucks cheaper. I'd only buy hard copies of games that fit my more eclectic tastes such as the disgaea series or 2d fighters that will be rare in 8-10 years.

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johnld
Saturday, November 05, 2011 @ 10:22:23 PM
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I'll stick with physical disc anyday. its not about hard drive space because you can always get a bigger one like other say. i just had to reformat my ps3 drive a while back and it took forever to update the games i actually play. i wanted to update every game i had but its gonna take a hell of a lot of time to do it. i also downloaded dc universe online and it took about 13 hours with my connection (3Mbps). i cant imagine having to download the game itself plus the updates.

i dont want to do a backup either because its going to take a long time to backup everything on your hard drive. not only does it take a lot of time to back up your hard drive, sometimes the restore function wont work properly. i remember when i was upgrading my ps3 from a 250 to a 500 gb drive. i actually spent more than 2 days backing up and restoring my data. everytime i did a restore, it kept telling me that the system restore didnt work properly. i had to keep deleting files in order to get my system backed up and restoring properly. my backup went from 200+ to about 4-5gb because i had to delete everything but the save files. then i had to redownload the games i bought and each updates to my games.

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xnonsuchx
Sunday, November 06, 2011 @ 1:37:52 AM
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Publishers like it because it kills the rental and used markets. I don't like the idea of having to download 5-40GB+ games, especially if you might have to re-download them to play because you had to delete from your HDD to make room for other things...unless they allow you to do selective back-ups. It just seems like it could be a big annoyance to many users and publishers could be losing a lot of potential customers who would benefit more from physical media (isn't the avg broadband speed in the US still only ~1-1.5Mbps?).

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djbool
Sunday, November 06, 2011 @ 6:14:13 AM
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I would go for digital only if it was significantly cheaper. Like 20-25 dollars cheaper. That won't happen so whatever.

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telly
Sunday, November 06, 2011 @ 10:23:53 AM
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Cheaper cost would help, but the big issue in my opinion is internet speeds. The service in this country is, by and large, an absolute joke. How long is going to take to download, say, Uncharted 3, over your average Comcast cable modem connection, which is about the average level of service most of us have? Many of us can't even buy any service that's faster, thanks to bizarre building monopolies that are extremely prevalent in major cities (I live in DC) and/or lack of better options. Conversely, how long would it take me to WALK to the nearest best buy and buy the physical copy? For that matter, how long does it take Amazon to ship me something with a prime membership? Heck, they offer day-of delivery for a measley 99 cents.

If and when internet speeds improve enough to the point where downloading a blu-ray's worth of data takes a few seconds, then I think digital download will become the overwhelming favorite for game buyers. Until then, I just don't think it's possible.

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Wendell
Sunday, November 06, 2011 @ 12:59:01 PM
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I really like being able to play Infamous or LBP that I got as welcome back freebies without shuffling BDs, but in general digital distribution does not seem like something that I want for all games yet. It takes too long to download over my 3Mbps DSL.

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BikerSaint
Sunday, November 06, 2011 @ 2:35:05 PM
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I've put a 1TB HD in my my Slim & a 750 HD in my new 60 Phat refurb just because I foresee the future days aiming more & more towards DL only, but I still don't like it.

I think the only perfect solutions towards not screwing all us old school gamers would be if every new game coming out would be released in both physical & D/L form, and that way every gamer can get what they what just the way they want it.

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dmiitrie
Monday, November 07, 2011 @ 12:09:45 AM

I agree completely Biker. As I've said time and time again, there's no reason I can see why every new game can't release simultaneously in physical and digital formats.

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Ather
Sunday, November 06, 2011 @ 7:47:45 PM
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I'm dabbling in digital, but to full convert, I'll need A) Cheaper prices. B) Faster downloads. C) Easy to access instructions (Physically, I just pause and break out the manual to look up how to use the controls as needed). D) Ability to redownload for free as needed. That last one is less needed if systems quit dying. Plus incase of buying the next console.

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Caanimal
Sunday, November 06, 2011 @ 8:28:54 PM
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Physical anything will never die, there are way too many people out there who just love to have something physical to hold onto... Look at cash for example, alternatives to paper/coin money have been around for what, half a century yet I know LOTS of people who still prefer cold hard cash in hand... Physical gaming media will be around for a long long while yet...

And no, I would never go digital only because then you never truly own the product, just buy the rights to play the game at THEIR discretion(carefully read the ToS)... I still prefer to have an actually book in my hands than one of those damnedable "E-books"....

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SS4
Sunday, November 06, 2011 @ 10:11:33 PM
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Only if digital would be yours and you could do what you want with it.
Let me explain:

To me it seems that you are free to use physical media the way you want and digital media feel like you are renting them with all the limitation imposed on them. I'm looking at you DLC (especially with new politics on it...)

So if I buy something its mine. If not then physical will remain my prefered choice until i can actually OWN digital media in a decent way.

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SonyPuppy
Monday, November 07, 2011 @ 12:36:14 AM
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No. It would have to be a third of the cost before I could justify the loss of my physical collection. And even then it would only be the minor titles. The GTAs and the like would still be physical buys for me.

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Gabriel013
Monday, November 07, 2011 @ 12:55:10 AM
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I prefer the boxed version but would buy digital if it was much cheaper.

Considering I can buy a £40 game and get roughly £20 for it when I trade in, I don't think digital will ever be cheap enough to pull me from the pysical versions. I can also pick up games new for £15 if they've been out a while. The digital versions are still £30 .

The new releases are a stupidly priced at closer to £60!

That's right people, I said £60. No box, no retailer mark-up. Straight from the PSN £60.

I say screw that.

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Rogueagent01
Monday, November 07, 2011 @ 7:53:47 PM

That is why I laugh at any analyst that speculates the way this one did. The cost of making games will not be affected in anyway by going digital, and companies that are currently even testing the waters rarely price their games properly. As I said in another post look at Bethesdas approach. Their DLCs have not got down in price and some of them have been out for almost 4 full years now(Shivering Isles). These are the trends that would be adopted eventually, so long as customers are willing to buy them(regardless of complaints) the bigger companies will only think about rasing prices or keeping them the same for as long as humanly possible. Their excuse would be the costs of producing games is expensive so we must take it out on you the customer.

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Reaper_505
Monday, November 07, 2011 @ 10:10:27 AM
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No thanks. My connection is so slow that I have to let large updates run overnight because they take several hours. A full game would take days, I'm much better off driving to the store.

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Gravelight
Monday, November 07, 2011 @ 12:41:20 PM
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Definitely.

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SS4
Monday, November 07, 2011 @ 1:18:36 PM
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Thats right, internet connection is a good point to consider. North America is seriously lacking internet wise compared to the rest of the world. I know for sure here in Canada beside the Indie ISP, all the major one still impose download/upload caps with ridiculous prices that are only a scam for more money when you go over it.

There is also the case of throttling because theyd rather do that then upgrade their infrastructure to once again bring in more money by giving crappier service and promising speed that are available for short periods during the day only and help you bust you monthly cap faster if you use your speed too much....

So thx to the big telecom being greedy we get crappy speed and low download limit and that just makes it really bad for digital content distribution. Some Indie ISP offer unlimited internet but they still use the big telecom network so they will have to man up and upgrade their infrastructure otherwise we are still stuck. Lets hope everyone switch to Indie so the big telecom will be forced to change their ways and upgrade to world standards.

Sry for the rant :P

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Spanky
Monday, November 07, 2011 @ 1:38:25 PM
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Nope

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Tuesday, November 08, 2011 @ 5:04:37 AM
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You're all mis-using the term "digital": games are already all digital, whether on-disc or downloaded.

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Tuesday, November 08, 2011 @ 10:24:57 PM
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Here are my thoughts on going all digital besides all the comments already made about liking the physical media and download times and disc space.

1. Not only would the used game market be dead, but the rental market would also be dead. Think of how long it would take to download a game just for a rental!! And don't say you can just download a demo cause there are some people that use Gamefly to rent a game, beat it, and send it back. You would be forcing people to buy it if they want to play it. No more selling a game after you beat it either because it would be authorized only on your console. It would put companies like Gamefly and Gamestop out of business for sure.

2. No more borrowing games from friends or bringing a game to a friend's house to play it there. You would have to bring your whole system over just to play 1 game!

3. Who would house all these games for download? PSN would be overloaded if it was just them!! Can you imagine 7+ million people trying to download a new release like MW3 on release day?!?!?! Would other stores have the capacity to offer these downloads? If not, that would pretty much monopolize the market for PSN and XBL.

4. They would have to reduce the price to about $10 a game for me to go digital. I rarely buy new releases except for some of the big ones. I generally wait til the price on Amazon dips under at least $40 before I buy a new game.

Bottom line there are too many factors to consider here. No way games will go all digital. I too still prefer having a book in my hand instead of a nook. LONG LIVE PHYSICAL MEDIA!! lol

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