Ben's Week In Review: November 27

Black Friday is over and I'm happy to say I didn't buy a damn thing. ;)

People will always complain about women in video games

Apparently, developers can't create a female character that avoids all negative scrutiny. Someone somewhere somehow will always find something potentially offensive. I couldn't believe that anyone would have a problem with Quantic Dream's depiction of Madison Paige in Heavy Rain. That could very well be one of the most authentic, realistic, sympathetic female characters in any video game ever. She was not over-sexualized. They didn't use her for the sake of sex appeal. That's crap.

She was a normally formed young woman who did what she had to do. She was an investigative journalist with a brain and a heart, and yeah, she just might sleep in a t-shirt and panties. Honestly, if people are going to complain about that character, we should just stop trying. The PC police will never be satisfied.

Square Enix has been taken over by pod people

It's the only explanation I can reach. I've seen questionable business decisions and development ideas before; I've never seen such a consistently bizarre industry and company outlook. First they say they need faster development cycles (yep, quantity over quality) and now they say sequels "have a lot of merit" compared to doing an all-new adventure? No, the only "merit" is that it's faster. That's it. It's true that other franchises always thrive on recognizable environments and characters but we're talking about Final Fantasy. It's completely different.

The fans want one thing. You want to give them something else. Why? And why do you continually bring up Call of Duty and the western market? Have you ever once tried just doing what you used to be good at? I've never heard of a company ditching a winning formula without that formula first having floundered; the "if it ain't broke" philosophy works beautifully until it doesn't work anymore. But S-E didn't even-! I mean-!

'sigh' I can't talk about it.

Personal gaming update

I've been busy with other things so I've only played a little more of Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception. I think I'm on Chapter 14; I'm trying to savor it. I love the characters and the action, and I'm really not getting these complaints about pacing. No idea where that's even coming from; sounds just like another excuse to find fault but whatever. It's fantastic. I might also try to finally finish Catherine. I haven't forgotten that great story and I really want to see how it ends.

By the way, we haven't forgotten about our questions to Square Enix concerning FFXIII-2. I keep nagging the PR woman who has been good about trying, but no responses yet. Just be patient...I'll get 'em. They won't get rid of me. Also, as a surprising percentage of readers might pick up a PSXE t-shirt, we might have an announcement on that at some point. Lastly, we'll get going on the next PSXE Show and announce a new party in Home. The review blitz just sidetracked us.

Oh, and if I think it's something people want to read, I might talk to Jo Garcia (if she's willing). Regardless of what some people think, that article was never meant to be insulting, and she's been keeping up with us on Twitter. So anyway, that's the update. :)

11/26/2011 Ben Dutka

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Riku994
Saturday, November 26, 2011 @ 9:43:11 PM
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I forgot about the FF13-2 questions.. Also, take up LoD again ;P

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main_event05
Saturday, November 26, 2011 @ 9:44:12 PM
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No time for games this week :( working retail during Black Friday sucks so much.

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Mr Bubbles IGR
Saturday, November 26, 2011 @ 9:54:09 PM
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Didnt go shopping at all during blackfriday, worked instead. Didnt buy anything the day after either. Is completely content with everything i have.

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frostface
Saturday, November 26, 2011 @ 9:56:12 PM
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I would be very supportive of that interview with Jo Garcia if she's willing.

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Beamboom
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 10:27:55 AM

Looks like it. :)

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frostface
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 1:38:20 PM

You Sir get a thumbs up :)

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Jawknee
Saturday, November 26, 2011 @ 10:01:40 PM
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Lol I'm sure people are sick of me mentioning this game but Princess Zelda is a pretty compelling female character with little to complain about. She's been just kind of what ever in past games, playing the typical "damsel in distress" but in Skyward Sword she's much more than that. She and Link actually have a more important connection and it shows. They actually engage one another on a personal level and it's quite a nice change. It makes me care about her more than in previous games.

I've given up on Square. They're not the same company and the people running it have obviously lost focus on what's important. It seems they are doing away with every great staple that made Final Fantasy such a unique and glorious franchise. It's dead now. Versus XIII, Kingdom Hearts 3DS and maybe Agito XIII will be the last games I buy from them. I certainly won't be buying anything that Katise (whatever his name is)is involved with.

PGU: Zelda, Zelda, Zelda, about 20mins of BF3 then more Zelda. I just finished the 3rd temple. All of them have been epic and have level of design that should be admired. Only 3 temples in and I have already put 27 hours into it. The new upgrade system gives it a nice RPGish feel. The stamina meter and chance of losing your shield if you're not careful while defending is also a welcome addition. Those two features along with smarter enemies forces you to be more strategic.

Ben, I guess I don't think the pacing of Uncharted 3 is necessarily a bad thing. I guess I would just liken it to a 2+ hour movie that was so good it felt like it was over in 15 minutes. It was just such a fantastic game, I was disappointed it ended so fast. :(

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, November 26, 2011 @ 10:07:41 PM

I haven't been able to play a Zelda since the N64 days, do the characters have voices yet?

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, November 26, 2011 @ 10:11:16 PM

That's why I'm trying to savor it. I'd hate for it to feel like it was over too quickly. :)

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SoulController
Saturday, November 26, 2011 @ 10:16:12 PM

yea UC3 felt over to quick for me as well. Which is why I think UC2 is a little better. Still a fantastic game though and I always seem to have the most fun with Uncharted while Im playing it on Crushing

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Jawknee
Saturday, November 26, 2011 @ 10:22:32 PM

Still no voice acting other than some made up language that this new character named Fi speaks. I like the lack of voice acting in Zelda games though. Nintendo still does a great job with their character development even without the voice acting. I just don't think Zelda would be the same of they added it. I didn't like that they added voice acting in Metroid. Made it feel like a different game.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, November 26, 2011 @ 10:26:19 PM

it would be kind of strange, but for making characters deeper it helps. I think Zelda does fine without deepness though

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Warrior Poet
Saturday, November 26, 2011 @ 10:35:23 PM

There are no voices yet, but that's a good thing. Link is just an avatar for you, and if you don't like the way he sounds, it completely breaks the game. I don't think there will ever be voices...

But there is always dungeon crawling. Gotta crawl dungeons, man!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, November 26, 2011 @ 10:03:11 PM
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I think people didn't understand what your article was actually about Ben, not a great big slam on Jo but instead a proposal that perhaps companies are putting hot women in geeky T-shirts and on video game review channels because oh, I dunno geeks like sexy women too and that's a huuuuge market to get through basic deceptions.

Er, uh, anyway. Square Enix is doomed I think. I don't think there's any difference between pod people and Japanese businessmen enamored with Western trends. Both have no souls.

Playing Skyrim, I'm thinking the huge save file issue shouldn't affect me since I'm 40 hours in and my save isn't even 1 megabyte yet. I know the patch aims to help, but it probably won't do much. I might be getting close to the end of Atelier Totori, and it is a neat game. Looking forward to Meruru. Also I'm reviewing Jurassic Park, it's uhhh, kinda an weirdo mashup of JP and Heavy Rain... but not in a good way.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, November 26, 2011 @ 10:11:43 PM

"I think people didn't understand what your article was actually about Ben, not a great big slam on Jo but instead a proposal that perhaps companies are putting hot women in geeky T-shirts and on video game review channels because oh, I dunno geeks like sexy women too and that's a huuuuge market to get through basic deceptions."

And here I thought it was obvious. Silly me. ;)

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Milonakis
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 12:35:17 AM

I'm thinking square enix might have a few gingers working for them. Now that you mentioned the no soul part it all makes sense

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matt99
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 3:56:20 PM

How do you keep the skyrim save file so small?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 5:50:30 PM

Sorry I messed up, since it was reading in kb instead of Mb I just assumed it hadn't reached Mb status yet. So it's actually over 7mbs, sheet.

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matt99
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 5:56:44 PM

Oh, haha I can't count how many times I've done that, and that's about the size I'm at. I had a bit of a lag problem but then I turned auto save off and it's been running smoothly ever since. Just gotta remember it isn't saving when you enter a place anymore...I learned that the hard way.

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SoulController
Saturday, November 26, 2011 @ 10:12:06 PM
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Square can eat a bag of anything unpleasant. These guys are beyond stupid and are clearly lieing when they say they're listening to the fans. They might as well just tell us to f*ck off because they want to be a follower and no longer a leader. smh..

I went to Baltimore where I grew up for the holidays and came back a day early because I missed my PS3.. :) and have a lot of work to do. Black friday is too much for me so I got a copy of Arkam City online through best buy for the same price as in store, Cant beat that. Im staring at my backlog as I type this to figure out where do I start first..

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JDC80
Saturday, November 26, 2011 @ 10:52:54 PM
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PGU: Just knocked off the New York Rangers for the Stanley Cup,Got InFamous 2 for 23 bucks in the GF used game sale. Just start the boat chapter in UnCharted 3. Still working on Assassin's Creed Revelations. I'm still leaning towards getting Uncharted 3(to have it in the collection and trophies) and NHL 12 this Christmas even tho the NBA just finished a deal to end the lock out I probably pick up NBA 2k12 after Christmas.

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Shams
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 12:37:10 AM
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Regarding Madison from HR, I'm not sure who was implying she was an over-sensual character. Of course, entertainment hardly is ever devoid of sex appeal, even ones attempting gritty reality. I mean, she's no Roseanne. But still, I'm wondering, who's complaining?

My PGU, I got Crysis 2 for PC for $10, and Rage for PS3 also for 10 bucks. Crysis 2 at 60fps and high settings is a sight to behold. I'm still pushing through Fallout 3. So far, I'm very pleased with my purchase (of the ASUS g53sw-xn1 gaming laptop for $580). I'm digging up all those multiplatformers I've missed or have played, and playing them as they have meant to be played. Surprisingly, I more often then not using a gamepad, rather than mouse/kb, as it is just easier when lounging in front of the TV.

Not a lot is said about gaming laptops among most pc gamers. They mostly say you got weak non upgradeable performance coupled with exorbitant cost of entry. Thing is, gaming laptops have come along way the past few years, and if you're a sharpshooter, you can get a very good deal. Mine is a 1080p 15 inch (I prefer 17-18" desktop replacements), quadcore i7 with 6gig ram, and with a 192 bit gtx460m with 1.5gig DDR5, back lit keyboard, 500gig 7200 harddrive, all for 580 bucks. It's not exactly what I wanted, but it's 90% of the features I wanted for about 20% the price. The model I have is even upgradeable So I get the benefits of a desktop for about the same cost.

Anyways, after seeing some high caliber performance of games, I still see that the current gen of consoles isn't that bad. The likes of Uncharted are still stunning to me. And to be honest, if I didn't need a new computer anyway, I would've returned my laptop after sampling some pretty games. But it's nice thing to see.

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Temjin001
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 1:05:22 AM

Dang, wish I could've found Crysis 2 for $10.
Nice computer btw. I nearly went with that same series of laptop. Though, my laptop holds up nicely and offers a clear upgrade over the console norm for performance. And hot dang, the cheapo deals are sick. I've acquired so many games over the past few months for $5-$10, it's hard to believe. I did grab Bulletstorm today for $8 off of Amazon digital. I can't stand how vulgar it is but the game play is quite cool.

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Shams
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 2:30:34 AM

Aw, there's always a better computer. I jumped for this one on Newegg, just because I saw the price. It was a returned open box item, only because the previous owner couldn't run a windows patch. Saved me a couple hundred, as the cheapest I've found it online new is about $800, but most places selling it at between 900 and 1200.

And Crysis 2, and Rage were actually 29.99 at Kmart, but I had 2 $20 coupons I had to use at some point.

I'm glad I got Crysis 2 on PC. It doesn't quite have the pacing and adrenaline of Killzone 3, or the production values, enemy design, and funky weapons of Resistance 3, but it overall, it's my favorite shooter of the year. Rage I got because I said I get to it when I could get it on the cheap.

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Shams
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 2:38:16 AM

I should say the one other thing that has impressed me about this laptop, aside from the high performance of the games despite the somewhat dated if not ordinary specs, is that it is extremely quiet, and does not get hot. I'll be playing Fallout 3 for hours, and it still is cooler than my the laptop I got for my mom after even 20 minutes of youtube and facebook. The PC has a cumbersome rear dual fan system. One pulls in air, while the other one pushes out.

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Beamboom
Monday, November 28, 2011 @ 7:44:20 AM

Very cool to see you liked Crysis 2, Shams. It's my shooter of the year too! And that's not cause I didn't like any of the competitors. It just have that "something" that puts it above the rest.

Are you into mp gaming too? Then you just *have* to try mp in Crysis 2. Just give it some time for you to get into it, then I'd love to hear what you think. For me C2 is also the mp of the year. It's so well balanced gameplay, excellent map designs and so totally awesome to use that suit.

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___________
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 1:00:11 AM
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when you have several scenes of a naked women prancing around, your only opening the floodgates for complaints to come ushering in.
im just surprised its gotten as little as it has.

one thing i cant understand about $E is why there so split.
there doing proper traditional JRPGs on the DS, the amount of kingdom hearts games both that and the PSP have received is just ridiculous!
so why cant current gen systems get them too?
its almost like there convinced the PSP and ds only released in JP, so JRPGs will sell well on those, where the ps3 and 360 never released in JP so they would sell poorly there.
hell, look at neir, the only game they have made for next gen consoles that actually felt like it was from $E!
even though it wasent.......
but why?
why do the traditional $E games we know and love have to be restricted to portable gaming?

ive been really trying to get into skyward sword the last few days, but it just keeps showing how outdated the wii really is.
on one hand it shows what the wii can really do, made it a whole lot better.
but then its also shown how much further they could of taken the game if it was on a modern console.
i keep saying to myself how much better would this be with HD graphics.
with the wiiU tablet controller.
if link could actually talk, and you could have a conversation with NPCs.
if they actually had a proper animation system, instead of peoples faces just being a blank piece of canvas.
if anything made me appreciate the advancements weve become accustomed to, its this.
i REALLY hope zelda will be a launch title for the wiiU, because, really, NO ONE does adventure games like the zelda team.
a amazing game, held back by aging hardware which is a real shame.

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Jawknee
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 10:49:04 AM

"i REALLY hope zelda will be a launch title for the wiiU"

Not gonna happen. They have already said its gonna take them at least 3 years to complete an all new Zelda for the Wii U. If the Wii U launches next year, that's not enough time for a new Zelda. There will be a new Zelda for the 3DS before we see one for the Wii U.

I don't think Skyward Sword looks that bad. Would be nice if it was in HD but other than that it looks fine to me. The art style distracts me from the lack of HD.

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Jawknee
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 12:08:34 PM

And Link talking is a no go. No voice acting, and Nintendo's ability to drive their characters without it is what makes Zelda great. There's no need for Hyrule to ever utter a word. Best left up to the player and their imagination.

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___________
Monday, November 28, 2011 @ 7:57:06 AM

not at all, for a wii game it looks amazing!
though they should open up the voice acting, it just allows so much more depth in the characters.
playing skyrim before this was a massive mistake, i keep looking back saying i wish i could do this, i wish i could do that.
if not voice acting, then actually at least give some dialogue to link.
all he ever does is stand there!
just feels so artificial.

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Underdog15
Monday, November 28, 2011 @ 1:10:46 PM

I disagree about voice acting giving more depth. It's all relative and dependent on the medium of story telling. There are times when voice acting would only hinder the depth of a story. Not often. But in the case of Zelda, it would take away an element of immersion that the series is known for.

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Lawless SXE
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 1:09:57 AM
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I didn't see anything wrong with Madison in HR. She was just a chick doing what needed to be done according to her moral compass. It wasn't as though players were forced to perversion/voyeurism or anything like that. If anything, it's what we need more of in games, as opposed to Nariko or any number of other female mains, who could easily be reskinned as a bloke. There needs to be that fragility, I think.

Lol, pod people. Good one. I don't know and I'm not sure that I want to with S-E. I was going to ask about the questions you fired off to S-E, so I'm glad you posted an update on that. Can't wait to read their responses... provided you've asked the hard questions. :)

PU:
Reading Dickens' A Tale Of Two Cities. Finding it utterly engrossing thus far.
Playing Skyrim. Is bloody good, but after fifteen hours, things are starting to break down.
As for the interview: would love to see it. They're always good.

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DarthSayver21
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 1:54:17 AM
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PGU: Im trying to prestige at least once in CoD4, W@W, so i can get 2 prestige tokens for the Mw3 prestige shop. also i want to reach 15th prestige in BO (currently 8th prestige) but Fallout: New Vegas has taken most of my free time, that i barely squeeze in some CoD with my friends. i was gonna pick up Skyrim til i heard that it has some hiccups on the ps3, so i figured i'll wait til it gets patched. remember i still have NV to complete so im in no hurry to pick up Skyrim. i also have inFamous 2 in my shelve catching dust (i know im ashame of myself but bestheda games are so good) i plan on picking it up were i left off but i got to be serious here, if i get Uncharted 3, and Skyrim before i continue inFamous it will just get push back into 2k12'. i have dumped many hours into GT5 and i still am lol. i just play it a few times out of the month. i think i managed to convince my CoD addict friend to pick up BF3 first instead of Mw3. Ohh rah' i can finally dust that baby up. lol oh and theres undead nightmare!

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ZenChichiri
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 3:56:10 AM
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I don't know why people complain so much about Heavy Rain considering there is much worse in games. God of War has a sex mini game where topless women entice you into their bed and you actually have to use button inputs to have sex with them. The only real argument I can see here is Heavy Rain isn't a fantasy setting, and is easier to relate to.

PGU: Just got my plat on Uncharted 3, moving to Arkham City and Dark Souls next. Between writing for my gaming blog, work, and significant other time, I'm also trying to keep up with my other hobbies. I wish there were an extra 6 hours to each day! Then again, I guess they would make us work longer then huh?

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Beamboom
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 4:19:24 AM
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Been a lot of talkin' about babes lately, Ben! May i suggest you might be ready for a relationship now, young man? ;)

To be honest I haven't noticed much complains about the babe in Heavy Rain. I have a hard time believeing this can be a big issue. The "Hot Coffee" case in GTA:SA on the other hand, now *that* was a big issue.

PGU: Oh man, what a sucky week. Three awesome games and I'm stuck in two of them!

Skyrim: So I've been stumbling around minding my own business trying to figure out stuff, when all of a sudden I get a group of mercs after me. And they slay me every time. Can't get rid of them, can't kill them. Oh man.

RAGE: So I was asked if I wanted to join a TV show. "Sure", I thought to myself, "that could be fun". Little did I know that the show was all about pouring an ocean of mutants over my sorry ass. And they slay me every time. Can't get rid of them, can't kill them. Oh man.

Saints Row The Third: The main game for me this week, for the above mentioned reasons. A coop buddy and me has gotten about half way through the main storyline (according to the stats) and we are starting to worry about the length. It feels like we're hardly past the tutorial stage. I guess that's only a sure sign of it being an entertaining game, but man time flies *too* fast when you're having fun.

So yeah, the only conclution from being stuck this early in both of the first titles can be: I suck in gaming. I've lost my touch. I'm getting old and stuff.
Not cool.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 4:58:41 AM

I dunno how the co-op works in SR3, but in the last game you barely felt the need to push the story forward. Lasted forever because of all the distraction quests and crazy sh*t you could do.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 5:12:00 AM

I mean to say, in the single player it was that way. I don't know of the co op keeps you playing the story only.

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Beamboom
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 5:48:45 AM

No no you are right - everything is open and available also in coop. And yeah there are *plenty* of stuff to do beside the main storyline. And that is what we focus on - we savior this game like the true treasure it is, only tearing small bits off it at a time. We must be close to a playtime of 20 hours or so by now. Maybe more, I dunno. The evenings are just *poff* gone when SR3 is running.

It's just, the storyline missions are like the cream of the crop. That's where the biggest events are found. And when the main story is over it feels a bit empty. We experienced this in SR2. As long as there was big stuff ahead we could fully enjoy silly minigames. But it wasn't the same once the main story was over.

It's nice to be "in the middle of something" storywise, also in regards to the minigames or - our favorite activity - shop around or just go bonkers in the city. But every now and then we want some big stuff to happen. So we tear off one more main story mission.

This game is just *perfect* to release plenty of story DLCs for. They got the framework set, just pump in more content. I'd gladly pay for injections with new content in Saints Row 3 for the rest of the PS3's life. No doubt!

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tes37
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 9:56:14 AM

You need a companion from one of the towns to help you with the mercs, I know I certainly did. You can also get a dog for 500 gold that attacks anything that gets aggressive toward you. A conjure spell added to that, would give you a total of three allies to fight for you.

I was able to get rid of them with just Lydia from Whiterun.

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Jawknee
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 10:52:34 AM

"RAGE: So I was asked if I wanted to join a TV show. "Sure", I thought to myself, "that could be fun". Little did I know that the show was all about pouring an ocean of mutants over my sorry ass. And they slay me every time. Can't get rid of them, can't kill them. Oh man."

Really? I managed to complete that mission two times in a row with little trouble. Make sure you have plenty of bandages.

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Beamboom
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 11:23:16 AM

@tes37: I got Lydia as companion and she last longer than me, to put it that way. But I never thought of bringing more companions with me. I'll try that, thanks!

@Jawknee: ... And that's exactly it, Jawk. I was not fully aware of what I entered and I happened to have only two bandages on me and on top of that I'm even short on ammo! I have to strangle as many as I can with my bare hands without spilling a drop of my own blood.
It really is a hopeless situation - and I can't exit back out where I entered.
I'll see if there is an option in a menu somewhere to abort that mission and return to the city for a proper restock.

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tes37
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 11:52:09 AM

I might have needed more than just Lydia, but the circumstances when I faced them worked out in my favor. They caught up to me at the college of Winterhold and one of them got stuck at the entrance and wandered around. So, I fought two at once instead of three.

I use the Sanguine Rose, the dog, and Lydia when traveling. It helps a great deal and the only thing I worry about is hitting an ally when I join in. I leave the Rose out of it, if I feel like their hogging all the fights.

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Beamboom
Monday, November 28, 2011 @ 8:38:38 AM

Ah I see. Typically, my experience differ from others (this is such an amazing game!) so the mercs appear when I enter that small village below the mountain where the greybeards are (hmmm... or maybe they will appear no matter where I go? Gotta look into that).

I tried to use an exploit from Fallout in that if I entered a new zone (like some houses, stores) they would not follow in but wait outside (thus I could rest and restock) but not so in Skyrim: They follow and continue the fight inside.

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Deadman
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 4:49:16 AM
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Honestly didn't see where you were coming from with that article Ben. In the past when you wrote articles about media personalities they were generalized blanket statements. Found it odd that you singled out one woman rather than all the so called "Geek Godesses".

As for that youtube comment, it was in no way intended to put down the site or any of the work you do. It was an inside joke between frostface, your bother and I. It's meaning was lost in a larger scale.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 5:10:30 AM

Often times a probable example helps to illustrate the broader issue. In all truth I think most of us are skeptical when a smokin' hot girl claims to be a hardcore gamer. It isn't that the two are incompatible altogether, but it can be a dubious distinction to give someone who appears to not need an active fantasy life since the real one probably affords them more than satisfactory shall we say stimulation. It simply boggles the mind to picture that girl at home by herself putting in hours to get past a boss or some such.

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Deadman
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 6:29:47 AM

IDK, to say that the media would try and sell this "package" is a bit of a leap considering who the target demographic is. I mean these are the people that dog on someone like Megan Fox for her "club thumb". If this women or any for that matter that are being sold to us gamers and geeks couldn't hold up their end of a conversation such as:

Which do you consider the better franchise and why: Gears or Uncharted?

They would be ripped to shreds by their vey consumers on the web. Cause I don't believe we want to be sold a fantasy, we want to be shown the real deal.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 5:53:54 PM

That's why it works, people are willing to believe what you show them if it appeals to them. It's no mistake that sexy women in gaming media has coincided with gaming becoming mainstream.

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Deadman
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 6:48:45 PM

I understand that's how it works works with the standard crowds.

But the Gamer/Geek crowd is a different story. When these women do live events, they are going to be expected to interact with fans. If those fans spot a phony, that person is done for.

It's no surprise that the ones that make it into the spot light are attractive. But their attractiveness is no reason to doubt their legitimacy. Especially considering the crowd they are catering to.

In all honesty if those "Geek Godesses" serve any purpose, it's to show the girls out there that "Hey this doesn't just have to be for the boys, we can have fun too"

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Beamboom
Monday, November 28, 2011 @ 6:11:00 AM

That was a very good point, Deadman. I fully follow your reasoning there - I think you are right. A fake *would* be spotted under those circumstances.

If only this was the level the discussion were at in the original article the outcome would perhaps have been a bit different... Maybe. :)

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Deadman
Monday, November 28, 2011 @ 5:16:12 PM

Yeah, I admit that, that was in bad form the other day. But oh well, it's done and over with no time to think about the could have beens.

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Excelsior1
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 7:01:58 AM
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Square has made so little impact on my gaming life this gen that I don't know what to make of them anymore. They have made so few games for the PS3. They are by no means the only Japanese developer that has had problems this gen. A lot of my favorite franchises like Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, and Silent Hill have all went downhill. It's a shame becuase not that long ago a FF game or RE game would have been considered must own titles. Now, not so much. How did it come to this?

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GamingLegend7
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 7:48:17 AM
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PGU: Just about finished the story for assassins creed revelations. Gonna take a while to get100% so glad black friday is over. Planning on playing the first Assassins creed after Revelations than may play the whole series over again. Still gotta get 100% in Batman though.

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High187
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 9:29:01 AM
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I don't if i'm allowed to post links, but i just read theres a domain for FF 13-3 up already.

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Jawknee
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 10:55:51 AM

You are. It just takes some time to get it approved. Ben and Co just have to make sure it's appropriate.

If what you read is true, that's just sad.

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tes37
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 11:02:38 AM

I've seen information on it too. I'm really starting to hate SE.

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Excelsior1
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 11:27:56 AM

Still waiting on the almost mythical FFvs13. Watch Square once again pull resources off of that game to make a FF13-3. Scary. I think they might wake up and smell the coffee once FF13-2 does not meet sales expectations. Then again, this is a company that is ran by Wada. FF 13-3 might be a real possibilty. I dare-say I would not even welcome a FF7 remake from Square at this time out of fear of what they would do to it.

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Jawknee
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 12:10:26 PM

Me either. They need to leave FFVII as its so painfully obvious they have no idea what they are doing anymore.

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BikerSaint
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 3:26:31 PM
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I'd like to see an interview with Jo, maybe it would clear the air with any misconceptions, or what-not.

As far as Madison goes, you just got to know that women are like her in real life, that will do what they feel needs to be done, so what's the big deal that some are having with her???
And don't women also lounge around at home in underwear & skimpy clothing in R/L too?
Geez, those few truly pathetic whiners must really be worried about their own manhood around a woman.

About SE & the direction they seem to be taking RPG's, I'm not a big fan of RPG's so I can't really say too much, but as a gamer, I DO feel for the longtime FF fanbase whom SE seems to completely eff'in over these this gen.

As for my own PGU,
I've been playing Deus Ex:HR & loving it, but now I've stuck trying to take down Barret, seems I don't have enough explosives, or maybe the right augs too, so I stepped away for a breather while I decide how to take him on once again. I might just restart that whole section from the beginning just to try beefing up my augs & and to pick up a lot more explosives.

In the meantime, I decided to whittle down some of my older titles, so I'm also doing Rainbox 6 Vegas, but Dammmmmn I shouldn't have waited so long to play it cause now it's looking quite outdated.
Oh well, I'm still having fun with it though, so that's all that really matters.

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Pandacastro
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 4:10:11 PM
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Just bought both variant story and chrono cross. Anyone know which I should play first?
Oh Ben, if you go to kotaku, there's a story that Sony might actually be working on smash bros type game. Superbot are supposedly developing it and they show a pic of what sweetooth looks like in the game.

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BikerSaint
Sunday, November 27, 2011 @ 5:55:45 PM
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As far as Black Friday, I slept in instead, & glad to do so too.

The one & only time I did a BF was when the Furby's were the rage & I wanted the much rarer solid black one & a solid white one.
I stood 3 hours in line for Walmart to open & once the doors were thrown open everyone just bum-rushed the entrance, what a frigging madhouse it was.(BTW, I did get both furby's).
If you want to see just how bad humanity can suck, just stand in line on a BF waiting for super-popular item before the store opens.

But I swore that after that nightmare, I'd never do another BF at a brick & mortar store.
And I haven't.

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