How Much Should The PS4 Cost?
It has become abundantly clear that price is the determining factor when it comes to new gaming hardware.
Not many are anticipating a huge launch for the PlayStation Vita in North America, and that's despite the biggest launch software lineup in the brand's history. No, that $250/$300 price point is putting consumers off, as did the $600 price tag affixed to the PlayStation 3 in 2006.
So if Sony does indeed unveil the PS4 at E3 2012, the primary question will undoubtedly be- "How much will it cost?" According to sources, we won't get that answer at E3 but even so, the question will linger until Sony responds, and then the announced price will be put under the microscope. Although I don't have an unlimited bank account, I think it's a little ridiculous to only focus on price when it comes to such a complex entertainment product, but that doesn't change reality. Price is crucial.
So where does the PS4 need to be? What should be its initial price point? Bear in mind that the PS3 fell in price relatively quickly, although people continued to complain about the price until it dropped down to $300. Should they care more about what Microsoft plans to charge for the new Xbox? With a 10-year lifespan in place for the PS3, the games will continue to flow for several years (as they did for the PS2 after the PS3 launched), and it's unlikely Sony will want to put themselves back in the red (or the black) so soon. Remember, it took a little longer for the PS3 to turn a profit in comparison to the PS2.
But from a consumer's standpoint, what's a safe price tag? What's reasonable, accounting for some inflation? Would $400 be about right or is that wishful thinking? Perhaps the big question is the technology; i.e., what sort of fancy new tech should we expect? That clearly determines the cost; Sony was losing money on every PS3 sold at the start, even though it cost $600...that thing was stupid expensive to make at the time. It's five years later; people are paying $600 for new phones, but maybe that isn't a fair comparison. Electronics are pretty expensive, though.
For gamers, what is about right? $500? What would be your limit?
1/6/2012 Ben Dutka
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Comments (104 posts)
bigrailer19
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 9:42:45 PM
Mr Bubbles IGR
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:40:32 PM
AcHiLLiA
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 8:23:04 AM
sha4dowknight05
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 9:07:59 AM
jlch777
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 9:27:57 PM
bigrailer19
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 9:41:16 PM
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With that in mind I think $400 is probably a good starting price. If there's a significant increase on hardware and the HDD size is big enough I think I'd pay $500. Hell I paid $600 for the PS3 and don't regret it one bit so...
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AcHiLLiA
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 8:26:46 AM
Caanimal
Monday, January 09, 2012 @ 5:58:13 PM
I know only a little a bit about specs and what not (haven't heard anything about the specs for the new systems yet) but I don't see any reason the PS4 should be above $400 at launch. About the only upgrading I can see is in the Ram since you can plug just about any size HD into a PS3 as it is...
Proudly spent $600 for my 60 gig which is still going strong!!!
tridon
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 9:42:12 PM
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All that's available for the PS3 right now is the slim model; a model that has less features than the original PS3 and, I'm sorry, an uglier appearance. Why can't Sony produce both PS3s? People should be able to choose between the cheaper slim model and the more expensive "sexy" model. LOL!
bigrailer19
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 9:45:06 PM
tridon
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 9:47:40 PM
Gamer Girl Gemo
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 3:33:30 AM
maxpontiac
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 9:51:06 PM
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Cpt_Geez
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 9:54:15 PM
GuyverLT
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 10:35:43 AM
Fane1024
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 6:35:38 AM
Killa Tequilla
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 9:58:59 PM
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bigrailer19
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:00:10 PM
BikerSaint
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:10:02 PM
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Stabs88
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 9:30:59 AM
TheDarkoutkast
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:12:23 PM
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chilker
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 2:57:31 AM
My launch 60gb ps3 just got the Yellow Light of Death and so I'm sending it in to Sony to get it fixed and they gave me one price for them to fix my current one or for $30 less they said, "You could get a factory certified, refurbished, 160GB, newly redesigned, lighter, thinner PS3." (Yes, he said all those things) And I was like, "No. I very much like my fat one with the PS2 compatibility and the extra USB ports. Thanks, though."
The launch model PS3 really is the best. And new hard drives are so cheap nowadays, you can upgrade for hardly anything!
johnld
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:12:38 PM
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i kinda wish there would be an upgrade pack to upgrade ps3 specs to ps4 specs. cost less to make for sony, we pay less to upgrade, kinda like pcs.
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Fane1024
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 6:40:19 AM
DemonNeno
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:12:55 PM
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It would be pretty sweet if this next console would have headroom for hardware expansion, too. I very highly doubt that'll happen, but we can dream!
Temjin001
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:21:35 PM
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And how do the pubs and devs feel? Games aren't easy to make, and devs have to fork out extra money to go mult-plat.. could the situation present itself where kicking off the low man on the pole by snubbing a platform in favor of a unified standard be in the cards next-gen?
Man, so many great muck-raker headlines I could generate with this next gen stuff.. it's sorta fun
=p
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Qubex
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:38:44 PM
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The world has moved on, gaming has changed. Unit will probably be smaller and something like x3 to x5 the power of the PS3...
I also predict, in order to keep the price down of the core unit, we may see the optical drive sold as a separate add on. There may be people who want DL only rather buying physical.
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
Temjin001
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:57:35 PM
bigrailer19
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 11:46:14 PM
I wouldn't either way, I played the crap out of that machine, It got used a lot! Ive put so much more into my 80GB so it's a worthy, worthy purchase!
AcHiLLiA
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 8:32:05 AM
Bugzbunny109
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 11:00:11 PM
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From the onset, Sony decided to create a powerful system. Subsequent to its power, it was very expensive. This affected the sales of the console, and thus the console had a bad launch. Many consider this a gaffe, but I consider it a good move by Sony. By expanding the technological capabilities of the system, rather than limiting them due to cost restrictions, Sony was able to deliver games that could not be done on other platforms. Additionally, although the system was originally expensive, the price greatly reduced over the years due to the expansions in technology. Many praise games like Uncharted, God of War, Killzone, The Last of Us, MGS4, LBP, and Heavy Rain, but fail to realize what Sony did to provide these games to them. Sony took a loss for most of the PS3's lifespan, but greatly advanced console gaming in an unprecedented manner. This is why Sony truly won this generation.
I expect to see more Uncharted like games next generation. However, I have an uncanny feeling that Sony has or will cut technology from the PS4 to reduce cost. I would prefer that the PS4 be expensive at its launch. That way, I could wait for the price to reduce within a year and a half, then obtain a console with superior capabilities. This is what I did with my PS3, and I am extremely content with my decision.
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AcHiLLiA
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 8:41:11 AM
BikerSaint
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 11:47:53 AM
Actually, in the beginning according to numerous articles scattered across the net in the past, the PS3 cost well over $900 to make, giving Sony around a $300+ loss per machine(at least here in the US).
After newer & smaller chipset revisions, they were able to drop their loss to only around $44 per machine & finally they've started seeing a small profit per machine, although I'm not sure how much it is.
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AcHiLLiA
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 12:21:41 PM
Jalex
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 11:49:15 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I fully trust Sony to make a quality product, one that will likely be worth considerably more than they'll charge for it, but $450 is going to have to be the max for my budget.
VampDeLeon
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 12:20:02 AM
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And since PS3 right now is at $250-350 USD range it'll most likely won't be any higher than $500 since they would only need to upgrade the specs and add full backwards compatibility again.
Maybe they'll do the whole duo-release systems where one will be $300/400 and the other $400/500 again.
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Excelsior1
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 12:42:20 AM
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BigBoss4ever
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 1:31:22 AM
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Likewise, there is no way I would pay 300 for the PS Vita given that I am completely happy with my 6 years old PSP.
I just do not see a need to upgrading the hardware in the gaming industry like the perpetually rapid changing age; of course I do realize that eventually, a generation of consoles do get replaced; however, not in such a rapid way. Instead, what has to be focused on, as I said many times, is to produce top-notched games like MGS4, Uncharted 2 and Demon's Souls.
p.s. Nikon's D4 announcement is epic and it is by far the greatest DSLR I have ever seen. I would rather save money to get that in terms of what hardware I am actually getting, but that is another whole line of different topics.
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BikerSaint
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 12:00:11 PM
At $524.83, I think he got himself hosed in more ways than just one.
He should've haggled for her patented 95% off "Sunrise in the side-alley" matinee special.
BTW, and during sunlight hours, that paper bag over her head is only 50 cents more, LMAo
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Gamer Girl Gemo
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 3:31:52 AM
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Unless Sony has been keeping a really great title under wraps just for the PS4, then that may be a little more of an incentive. But, can't give what I don't have, even if it could be an amazing bundled title. I'll just have to stick to what I did before I got my own PS3 a couple years after its launch: continue to play the previous system.
D1g1tal5torm
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 7:36:25 AM
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FullmetalX10
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 7:43:03 AM
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I'm willing to pay for what the system is worth.
If you look at the Vita and see how much it offers, apart from the internal memory/memory stick problem, I would gladly pay 50-75 bucks more than the asking price, because that's what it's worth in my eyes.
___________
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 7:47:35 AM
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i just really hope $ony does not lower the price point and go for cheaper lower spec hardware.
playstation products have always been so far ahead of their time, and thats exactly how they should stay!
if we cant run games in full HD, 60FPS in 3D, or even ray tracing at 720P then its a waste of time and money!
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Fane1024
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 6:48:00 AM
___________
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 7:39:25 AM
if $ony do their usual and take the US price and double it then AUD.
if they take the US price and convert it to AUD then USD.
since AUD is actually worth more ATM, and to be honest i wont be surprised if it stays that way, or close to for a long long time!
US has the financial credibility of a 3rd world country ATM!
Ichigo40
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 8:10:43 AM
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I bought my PS3 day one and I was ok with the price but I also know that I'm not the majority...and that same majority will probably complain about anything over $300 so its going to be interesting to see what Sony will do on the price front. Maybe the'll have multiple versions at different price tags for the PS4.
AcHiLLiA
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 8:50:00 AM
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Bonampak
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 9:08:43 AM
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For instance, if the Wii U and Xbox720 come out before the PS4 and either of those systems is priced at $399.99, then Sony is undoubtedly going to try and match that same price point. They wouldn't want to sell their console at a higher price than the competition's.
I think Sony is already aware of that possibility. Thus why early last year, Masaru Kato, Sony’s EVP and chief financial officer said that "It is no longer thinkable to have a huge initial financial investment like that of the PS3".
Basically, the company won’t invest a lot to PS4′s technology as they did with PS3. So the PS4 will most likely re-use "old" technology to make the console cheaper to produce. They will probably still use the BluRay format as well.
I know that for some of you, this would be disappointing since you want the PS4 to be on the cutting edge. But you have to consider that the PS4 needs to have an affordable price.
If the PS4 is ever going to enjoy the kind of mainstream success that both the PS1 and PS2 enjoyed, then it needs to cater to mainstream consumers in terms of its price. And presently, with the economy being in the state that it is, you cannot sell a system at $600.00 and expect it to fly off the shelves. Not everyone is a hardcore gamer willing to spend a small fortune on a console and games. And a console cannot thrive with only that niche group supporting it.
Anyway, I expect the PS4 to cost below $400.00
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Fane1024
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 6:52:49 AM
sha4dowknight05
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 9:10:39 AM
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I am wondering if they might re use blu-ray or go with holographic discs.
I hope they make it backwards compatible with PS1, PS2, PS3, psp minis lol if i was to pay $500 for it to play all that it might be well worth it.
slugga_status
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 10:16:52 AM
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jimmyhandsome
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 10:22:30 AM
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And even then I feel as though these consoles might be slower out the gate then last time around. Its not 2005/2006 or even 2001 anymore. Of course the early adopters will be foaming at the mouth for the consoles, but they don't make up the majority of the consumers.
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 5:35:46 PM
Coffeya
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 10:00:31 PM
jimmyhandsome
Monday, January 09, 2012 @ 11:59:17 AM
Underdog15
Wednesday, January 11, 2012 @ 12:25:57 PM
BikerSaint
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 12:12:21 PM
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Fane1024
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 6:56:26 AM
Fane1024
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 7:00:04 AM
DjEezzy
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 1:25:38 PM
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As far as apple goes... I don't have an iphone but i do have a mac book. Apple makes extremely nice products that last a very long time. They are expensive but in apples case, you do get what you pay for. I mean has anyone seen RAGE being played on an iphone. It looks amazing!
With apple i try not to think about the politics that alot of people tend to focus on and complain about. I look solely at their products which are both extremely reliable and forward thinking as well. People can hate all they want but you get what you pay for.
Darwin1967
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 2:15:07 PM
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sha4dowknight05
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 2:56:43 PM
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xnonsuchx
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 2:57:16 PM
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It should also be PS3 (and PS) compatible, unless specs were drastically changed from what was originally expected, but trying to do full PS2 software emulation would still be spotty for them to try.
burnlife308
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 3:12:04 PM
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Fane1024
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 7:05:18 AM
burnlife308
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 3:13:12 PM
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burnedknight
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 3:38:16 PM
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CrusaderForever
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 6:52:23 PM
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Listen 5 years from now we'll be in the same boat as we are now. Yes the PS3 has a lot of gas in the tank. However, it is lacking and could be so much more if it could be upgraded. Build a solid PS4 so we can truly enjoy a 10 years life span with no PS5 dreaming.
If they cannot use today's top of the line hardware then it would have to be priced at $400 or below.
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PHOENIXZERO
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 1:40:55 AM
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Anyway, the point is Sony isn't going to go nuts like they did with the PS3 in an attempt to Trojan horse a new media format into homes nor are they going to spend a ton on a "exotic" CPU architecture so right away costs are going to be much, much lower.
PharaohJR
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 3:00:56 AM
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considering this is a console market (a device that primary is about gaming) if PS4 delivers new innovation with backward compatibility, i be glad to throw down 5-6 bills again. if its just a slight upgrade like more ram 450 the most.
as a consumer i have 1 request..... stop rushing games with alot of bugs & bulls$%t, since everbody jumping on dlc move least u can do is deliver a game with less bugs out the box.
Kevin555
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 3:22:01 AM
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Regardless of the price i ain't buying it launch night like i did the PS3 (I paid $1000 for that on launch with only one game to play, VF5), instead i am going to wait it out until a solid list of games come out that i like, then i will splash out. Nothing worse then having a shiny new console sitting in your T.V cabinet with nothing decent to play on it.
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Fane1024
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 7:11:17 AM
Underdog15
Wednesday, January 11, 2012 @ 12:55:38 PM
placenta_yogurt
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 2:01:40 PM
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Marckon
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 2:23:26 PM
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I really think sony needs to make a cheaper console this time around no higher than 399.99. They really need to understand the market and cater to what we want. I been doing a lot of research lately about the cell and XDR ram and I think they should stick to that technology and improve on it and for god sake make it easier for developers. I have a lot of opinions on this, but this being my first post i dont want to put it all out there so soon.
Anyway guys I dont have a lot of PSN friends and I think I can find some good friends in here. My PSN is Glaukon so send an invite if you need someone to play with.
Omnipro
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 7:38:25 PM
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I will do the same with the PS4. I got a job, and enjoy a lot of TV, and Movies, so I am behind on a lot of good PS3 games, so I can wait again for the PS4.
The PS3 is great and I can't imagine what the PS4 will have to get me to buy it at release unless it has a brain controller or virtual reality.
Ather
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 8:30:54 PM
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The problem is perceived value. Sony thinks the stuff they load into their machines is worth a certain price. They send their plants to comment with wow, I can't believe it's so cheap for all that tech. It should be more. How can they make any money?
But do real people agree? No. People didn't agree with $600 for a PS3. People didn't agree with $250 for Nintendo's 3DS. Depsite the wow, they should be charging more for Vita comments, it seems way too high. As soon as Nintendo's big price drop for 3DS was announced, people began demanding it for Vita as well. Take the hint, Sony. What you perceive the value to be is too much.
Maybe the solution is for the companies to make a list of new fetaures, then let people vote onw hat they want. That'll limit the prices better. Sony justified Ps3 as a cheap Blu-Ray player that also plays games. Alas, most people didn't even have Blu-Rays. I would have been saitisfied with a PS3 without Blu-Ray features. I would have bought mine then and there, not years later. But Sony was too busy trying to force their format, and it failed them in proper PS3 sales (yes they won the format wars, but look how much a beating PS3 intially took.) Thye promise 10 years, but 5 years later, time for a new system, and a promise of course games will continue for PS3. Sorry, not good enough. If a machine is worht 10 years (and thta appearntly makes $600 a baragin), you nee dit to actually last 10 years with full support.
The 5 year rule was moronic then, it's more so now. Add in the lack of money for the world, and charging $800 for a PS4 full of stuff nobody wants, guaranteed to last 10 years (but 5 before PS5 comes out), and their cruising for a brusing (financially.) We don't need new consuls. We don't wnat them, and can't afford them. Hence why I;m not getting Vita, Ps4, or Xbox 720. I ahve enough game sbacklogged to last mew a few more years, coupled with the last trickle for the "old" consuls. See you all for Ps5 and Xbox 1540. Assumign the bigwigs learn their idea of fair value for tech is overinflated comapared to our ideas. Console prices for handhelds. nearly a thousand bucks per system. In a time when the world's economy is dying it's last breath. I don't see this recession proof business lasting. Go cheap or go home, fellas. And dump the 5 year rule. make a new system when needed, and when new things cna be offerred. Some marginally better graphics and a bit mroe motion support is not justifiable. leats of all for the prices you're asking for.
Underdog15
Wednesday, January 11, 2012 @ 12:59:10 PM
Phones and Tablets sell at high prices because they seek good profit from each sale. They are overpriced, while PS3's were under-priced.
When the PS3 first released, it was well ahead of the curve in terms of potential and current offerings. Blu-ray players alone, at that time, were not very different in price.
Sony, in all departments, have always been known for releasing cutting edge technology. They have also been known for having more expensive prices. But it isn't unfair... cutting edge is and always will be more expensive than the alternatives.
Underdog15
Wednesday, January 11, 2012 @ 1:16:43 PM
I expect them to do the same thing here with this promise. I'm not sure what your complaint is there.
your post would be easier to consider if you understood the value of tech a little better. Seriously... do some research into the cost of certain specs in 2006, look at the cost of blu-ray players in 2006, and compare that to what the PS3 offered at the time (including full b/c) and tell me again it was overpriced.
If anything, they were overzealous. But in all truth and honesty.... well... they just understood the consequences to releasing a piece of tech that is ahead of the curve. It's Sony. They've been doing that since well before the PS1 even came out.
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Ather
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 8:33:44 PM
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phade2blaq
Monday, January 09, 2012 @ 6:22:16 AM
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I've owned a PS1, PS2 and currently a PS3 and I have had one or all of the above issues with every Playstation that I've owned ! Matter of fact my PS3 is sitting at a repair facility now for the 3rd time since I've had it for the same reasons, discs wouldn't eject or they would eject too far and some movies and game discs weren't being read !
As far as the PS4 price point is concerned, I would say no more than $400 !
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Underdog15
Wednesday, January 11, 2012 @ 1:13:47 PM
That's either freakish luck or you abuse your hardware.
PS2 was recognized by MANY for it's reliability. PS1 had eventual disk read errors for some, but that's it. PS3 fits below the acceptable failure rate for hardware, and therefore, can't really be penalized as a whole. (In other words, it's acceptably reliable from a hardware standards point of view.
As for your desires, any time you deal with something that generates heat or has moving parts, you risk a 5% failure rate. That's a rate for hardware of any type of computer or appliance. If your failure rate is below 5%, it's seen as "reliable".
Additionally, anytime you work with an HDD, you will always have risk of file corruption. Something as minor as a power surge, outage, cancelled operation, or anything abnormal during a saving process could potentially corrupt a file. If your game system data becomes corrupted, you run the risk of your game freezing. It's actually more indicative of the game design than it is the system in question. The fix is easy... Delete any system data the freezing game has on your system, then re-install it next start up.
So basically, freezing may not reflect your system and cannot be avoided 100%, overheating will eternally be a risk and you can only hope for less than a 5% chance of failure, stopping reading discs is a potential for any DVD, blu-ray or CD player if the disc drive fails because it's a moving part that also hopefully falls below that 5% failure rate, and finally....
Skipping? I have never had that in any system or PC. Last time I had that was in a CD player my parents had in the early 90's... i would stop moving your system around while it's playing or stop doing jumping jacks or whatever it is you do to cause skipping. lol
As for your current PS3.... stop sending it in for repairs. Just replace the blu-ray drive and be done with it. Someone's ripping you off. If it's Sony's repair facility you mail to and it's the 3rd time, I'm 99% sure you're doing something to destroy your systems.
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mason
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 1:51:47 PM
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Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 9:39:42 PM
LOL if people are willing to pay outragous prices for tablets and cell phones $500 is a very even price to pay for a new console.