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How Much Should The PS4 Cost?

It has become abundantly clear that price is the determining factor when it comes to new gaming hardware.

Not many are anticipating a huge launch for the PlayStation Vita in North America, and that's despite the biggest launch software lineup in the brand's history. No, that $250/$300 price point is putting consumers off, as did the $600 price tag affixed to the PlayStation 3 in 2006.

So if Sony does indeed unveil the PS4 at E3 2012, the primary question will undoubtedly be- "How much will it cost?" According to sources, we won't get that answer at E3 but even so, the question will linger until Sony responds, and then the announced price will be put under the microscope. Although I don't have an unlimited bank account, I think it's a little ridiculous to only focus on price when it comes to such a complex entertainment product, but that doesn't change reality. Price is crucial.

So where does the PS4 need to be? What should be its initial price point? Bear in mind that the PS3 fell in price relatively quickly, although people continued to complain about the price until it dropped down to $300. Should they care more about what Microsoft plans to charge for the new Xbox? With a 10-year lifespan in place for the PS3, the games will continue to flow for several years (as they did for the PS2 after the PS3 launched), and it's unlikely Sony will want to put themselves back in the red (or the black) so soon. Remember, it took a little longer for the PS3 to turn a profit in comparison to the PS2.

But from a consumer's standpoint, what's a safe price tag? What's reasonable, accounting for some inflation? Would $400 be about right or is that wishful thinking? Perhaps the big question is the technology; i.e., what sort of fancy new tech should we expect? That clearly determines the cost; Sony was losing money on every PS3 sold at the start, even though it cost $600...that thing was stupid expensive to make at the time. It's five years later; people are paying $600 for new phones, but maybe that isn't a fair comparison. Electronics are pretty expensive, though.

For gamers, what is about right? $500? What would be your limit?

1/6/2012 Ben Dutka

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Comments (104 posts)

thj_1980
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 9:39:42 PM
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$500 at the most!!!!

LOL if people are willing to pay outragous prices for tablets and cell phones $500 is a very even price to pay for a new console.

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bigrailer19
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 9:42:45 PM

Good point I meant to bring up. The iPhone is ridiculously overpriced and the iPad is certainly nothing compared to the PS3 other than it's portable, as far as gaming and media goes. So that price shouldn't be much of an issue.

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Mr Bubbles IGR
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:40:32 PM

I paid $500 for a motorstorm 80GB ps3, so that would be my top dollar that i would spend. Anything past that would be to much for my taste.

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AcHiLLiA
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 8:23:04 AM

$500 is too much for me.

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thj_1980
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 9:07:59 AM

$500 is a lot but I hope they have awesome hardware with their system. I would at least say $400 would be a fair price, but with people paying so much for their iPads and tablets, cell phones and all that other great stuff $500 would be around what they paid for it.

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jlch777
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 9:27:57 PM

I think it should be $399.99 with GT6 as a launch title..... I can only dream.

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bigrailer19
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 9:41:16 PM
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I think now that Blu-ray is established and not so expensive, that will play a good part in the PS4 being more affordable. Aside from that I'm not a huge hardware tech guy, but it would seem that would be the only thing driving the price up. To me the PS3 does so much, I have to ask what's next? What will make the next consoles stand out?

With that in mind I think $400 is probably a good starting price. If there's a significant increase on hardware and the HDD size is big enough I think I'd pay $500. Hell I paid $600 for the PS3 and don't regret it one bit so...

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maxpontiac
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 9:57:08 PM

Same here!!

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H0TSHELLZ
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 8:05:35 AM

DITO !

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AcHiLLiA
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 8:26:46 AM

your right, since Blu-Ray won the format war they don't have to think about it anymore.

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Caanimal
Monday, January 09, 2012 @ 5:58:13 PM

I'm w/ you on this Big.

I know only a little a bit about specs and what not (haven't heard anything about the specs for the new systems yet) but I don't see any reason the PS4 should be above $400 at launch. About the only upgrading I can see is in the Ram since you can plug just about any size HD into a PS3 as it is...

Proudly spent $600 for my 60 gig which is still going strong!!!

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tridon
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 9:42:12 PM
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I guess it all depends on the tech. Personally, I would like to see it cost no more than $449.99. Actually, I was thinking the other day; why can't there be more than one choice?

All that's available for the PS3 right now is the slim model; a model that has less features than the original PS3 and, I'm sorry, an uglier appearance. Why can't Sony produce both PS3s? People should be able to choose between the cheaper slim model and the more expensive "sexy" model. LOL!

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bigrailer19
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 9:45:06 PM

Well I think the fat shiny PS3 definitely looks better. But The PS2 slim was so popular, and I'm sure price absolutely plays a role in the slim model also. But good point, I've always wondered why they got rid of the shiny look with how popular it was and great it looked in an entertainment center!

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tridon
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 9:47:40 PM

Exactly. Keep both versions around and give consumers the choice. I'd stick to the phat, no doubt.

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bigrailer19
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 9:59:00 PM

Likewise, I love my fat PS3!

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 3:33:30 AM

I thought I was the only one who felt that the fatty was better! I'm still going strong with my fatty :) He's turning 3 years old this summer! They grow up so fast... *Sniff*

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maxpontiac
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 9:51:06 PM
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I believe $400.00 is a good price point.

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Cpt_Geez
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 9:54:15 PM

I was just about to say $399.00 is the perfect, price it's not too high or to low.

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GuyverLT
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 10:35:43 AM

I agree and they should also make JUST ONE UNIT this time with all the features in it instead of two different ones at two different prices???? Just Saying lol

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Fane1024
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 6:35:38 AM

I agree wholeheartedly: one launch unit, one price. They can release different configurations once the launch units are available everywhere, but not immediately.

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Killa Tequilla
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 9:58:59 PM
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The PS4 should be priced at 600$. As long as I get my moneys worth. 1080p, 60fps, 1080p 3D @60fps and more RAM. A whole lot more RAM. Included with a high speed HDMI and a Dualshock 4. I'd totally buy this! 600$ doesn't seem so pricey anymore now does it? But it's not up to me to decide, it's up to Sony...

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bigrailer19
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:00:10 PM

It's a lot of money no matter how you look at it. What's makes it justifiable are the things you mentioned.

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Killa Tequilla
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:08:10 PM

Hhmmm... Thats true

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BikerSaint
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:10:02 PM
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The out-of-work cheapskate I've had to become is hoping for no more than a $299 price point, but the realist in me thinks it will be closer to a $349 to $399 price range. And hopefully, no more than that.

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Stabs88
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 9:30:59 AM

Its going to be more then that. Would be nice to think $400 is the starting but if the Vita is $300 starting the PS4 is going to be at least! $500. As much as i would LOVE to grab one as soon as it comes out i know i wont. Ill wait a year or so an keep a close read on the hardware/bugs along with launching and future software.

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TheDarkoutkast
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:12:23 PM
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$500 sounds good to me for a next gen :D. Reason I because, early adopters in Sonys case usually get all the good stuff example ps3 phat (flash card slots, 4 USB ports and some backwards compatibility to ps2 titles) vs ps3 skinny sure it runs quiet and has bigger hard drive but it's missing all that good stuff. And Sony never makes its customers feel like they got screwed being a early adopter psh I laught at people with the slim ps3 lol because the phat is better but apple makes its customers feel like crap the next year lol anyone who bought the iPhone first gen and ps3 when they first came out should look at who is happier spending that money early on before complaining about price points :3

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chilker
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 2:57:31 AM

I know what you mean.
My launch 60gb ps3 just got the Yellow Light of Death and so I'm sending it in to Sony to get it fixed and they gave me one price for them to fix my current one or for $30 less they said, "You could get a factory certified, refurbished, 160GB, newly redesigned, lighter, thinner PS3." (Yes, he said all those things) And I was like, "No. I very much like my fat one with the PS2 compatibility and the extra USB ports. Thanks, though."
The launch model PS3 really is the best. And new hard drives are so cheap nowadays, you can upgrade for hardly anything!

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johnld
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:12:38 PM
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i have to say, 400 to 500. anymore and its a wait and see for me. my ps3 still have games and with sony's 10 year plan there will be more games to come. they should also have 2 models, a full backward compatiblity with ps1,2,and 3 and one with limited backwards compatiblily. that way people have a choice if they want backwards compatiblility, pay extra or pay less. of course to do that they need an amazing launch lineup. lets face it, backwards compatibility was a big part in the launch ps3s because of launch lineup. if they had an amazing lineup, i wont even look at my ps3 to play ps2 games.

i kinda wish there would be an upgrade pack to upgrade ps3 specs to ps4 specs. cost less to make for sony, we pay less to upgrade, kinda like pcs.

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Fane1024
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 6:40:19 AM

No PS4 should ever have limited backward compatibility...and if Sony leverages Cell technology as they should none will.

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DemonNeno
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:12:55 PM
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$400-$600. Sony wants their hardware out, but they will need to keep the PS3 relevant in order to compensate for their loss. I can see this system having way more graphical processing power along with memory (whatever form it comes in, depending on the CPU-type) to keep the filtering at sustainable levels regardless of the game engine's complexity.

It would be pretty sweet if this next console would have headroom for hardware expansion, too. I very highly doubt that'll happen, but we can dream!

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Temjin001
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:21:35 PM
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I'm not an economonics major but I think $400 sounds right. I'm curious though. The stakes are higher this time, I suspect. Could Sony and MS make this a winner takes all generation? I say this because if one competitor price gouges their hardware to, say $200, for the sake of winning the landscape for the next 15-20 years... it would seem worth it, no? Sony has been facing a challenging landscape as a company for some while now. MS can reach deeper into the pocket book than Sony can right now.. just how hardcore are they going to take this?

And how do the pubs and devs feel? Games aren't easy to make, and devs have to fork out extra money to go mult-plat.. could the situation present itself where kicking off the low man on the pole by snubbing a platform in favor of a unified standard be in the cards next-gen?

Man, so many great muck-raker headlines I could generate with this next gen stuff.. it's sorta fun
=p

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bebestorm
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:30:33 PM
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I believe the PS4 will lower than 600 maybe 499. Im not driven by price its about the games. Vita price is good but the launch line up is not very appealing to me.

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Qubex
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:38:44 PM
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I would expect $399 to $499 all inclusive, or maybe something in between. It will be a different type of machine today as the cost of components such as Blu Ray drives have now come down to reasonable levels.

The world has moved on, gaming has changed. Unit will probably be smaller and something like x3 to x5 the power of the PS3...

I also predict, in order to keep the price down of the core unit, we may see the optical drive sold as a separate add on. There may be people who want DL only rather buying physical.

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Cuetes
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:46:10 PM
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I paid the initial 600 dollar price tag when the PS3 launched, and happily never looked back. I'm also sure if it came to it, I would drop that amount again.

That being said I hope it's in the 400 range.

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Temjin001
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:57:35 PM

I straight up went out and got a part-time job on top of my full-time job to buy a $600 PS3 with a couple games.
No regrets. well, maybe if I knew it'd go ylod after 2-1/2 years... mmmmh nah, still worth it =)

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bigrailer19
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 11:46:14 PM

Mine went ylod after just under two years. But I bought mine from Circuit City and I also paid for a 2 year warranty. Not only did it ylod about a month before the warranty expired, but Circuit City was going out of business at the same time. 2 good things came out of that: 1) instead of sending me a refurbished PS3 I got a gift card for the amount I paid, which was $600 (which was fine, the retail store in my area stayed open about another 6 months). 2) the PS3 had dropped to $400 by that time so I was able to purchase 3 games on top of getting a new PS3. So I don't regret it at all! ;)

I wouldn't either way, I played the crap out of that machine, It got used a lot! Ive put so much more into my 80GB so it's a worthy, worthy purchase!

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AcHiLLiA
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 8:32:05 AM

yep, that was the problem, to much gaming on the machine, these consoles need break time.

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Naksy
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 10:46:23 PM
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Something between 350$ and 450$ means it'll be a D1P but, if the PS4 doesn't have backwards compatibility with the PS3 Blu-Rays (NOT the downloadable versions like the PSP to Vita)... I think I'll hold on to my PS3 for just a bit longer

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Bugzbunny109
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 11:00:11 PM
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I personally want the PS4 to be at least $600. Unfortunately, Sony won't do this. I know a myriad of you believe it was a bad idea for pricing the PS3 at such a value, but I believe it is what made PS3 successful this generation.

From the onset, Sony decided to create a powerful system. Subsequent to its power, it was very expensive. This affected the sales of the console, and thus the console had a bad launch. Many consider this a gaffe, but I consider it a good move by Sony. By expanding the technological capabilities of the system, rather than limiting them due to cost restrictions, Sony was able to deliver games that could not be done on other platforms. Additionally, although the system was originally expensive, the price greatly reduced over the years due to the expansions in technology. Many praise games like Uncharted, God of War, Killzone, The Last of Us, MGS4, LBP, and Heavy Rain, but fail to realize what Sony did to provide these games to them. Sony took a loss for most of the PS3's lifespan, but greatly advanced console gaming in an unprecedented manner. This is why Sony truly won this generation.

I expect to see more Uncharted like games next generation. However, I have an uncanny feeling that Sony has or will cut technology from the PS4 to reduce cost. I would prefer that the PS4 be expensive at its launch. That way, I could wait for the price to reduce within a year and a half, then obtain a console with superior capabilities. This is what I did with my PS3, and I am extremely content with my decision.

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AcHiLLiA
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 8:41:11 AM

originally the PS3 *was* worth 850 bucks, they lost 250 bucks on every 60GB sold back then. No way Sony wouldn't want that to happen again. Don't know about the 20GB but who cared about that model.

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BikerSaint
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 11:47:53 AM

AlexanderTHEGR8,

Actually, in the beginning according to numerous articles scattered across the net in the past, the PS3 cost well over $900 to make, giving Sony around a $300+ loss per machine(at least here in the US).

After newer & smaller chipset revisions, they were able to drop their loss to only around $44 per machine & finally they've started seeing a small profit per machine, although I'm not sure how much it is.

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AcHiLLiA
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 12:21:41 PM

Well, this one particular article I saw in the past said 250 bucks a loss.

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jdt1981
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 11:26:46 PM
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I personally would have no problem paying $600 again for the PS4 but that's just me. If Sony wants the PS4 to sell faster out of the gate than the PS3 did maybe they should cap the price at $450 at launch.

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Jalex
Friday, January 06, 2012 @ 11:49:15 PM
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I think $450 would be my absolute limit. $400 would be ideal and $500 would lead to me waiting for a price drop or sale.
Don't get me wrong, I fully trust Sony to make a quality product, one that will likely be worth considerably more than they'll charge for it, but $450 is going to have to be the max for my budget.

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VampDeLeon
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 12:20:02 AM
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I don't think Sony will be starting at $600 again, since Blu-ray is now a household item along with Dvd's people will be more welcoming to shell out for a cheaper Blu-ray than beforehand when it was competing with HD-DVD.
And since PS3 right now is at $250-350 USD range it'll most likely won't be any higher than $500 since they would only need to upgrade the specs and add full backwards compatibility again.

Maybe they'll do the whole duo-release systems where one will be $300/400 and the other $400/500 again.

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Raze22
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 12:42:16 AM
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325 would be nice. 600 just kills me inside, but I would still consider it.

I believe they are going to do 500 though while losing 200 for every system sold. Just doing a random guess slash hunch!

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Excelsior1
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 12:42:20 AM
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hehe. How many jobs will I need this time?

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BigBoss4ever
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 1:31:22 AM
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there is simply no way I would pay 600 to get a ps4, given that I am totally completely happy with the ps3 and thrilled with the games it has on it.

Likewise, there is no way I would pay 300 for the PS Vita given that I am completely happy with my 6 years old PSP.

I just do not see a need to upgrading the hardware in the gaming industry like the perpetually rapid changing age; of course I do realize that eventually, a generation of consoles do get replaced; however, not in such a rapid way. Instead, what has to be focused on, as I said many times, is to produce top-notched games like MGS4, Uncharted 2 and Demon's Souls.

p.s. Nikon's D4 announcement is epic and it is by far the greatest DSLR I have ever seen. I would rather save money to get that in terms of what hardware I am actually getting, but that is another whole line of different topics.

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souljah92
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 1:58:23 AM
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My dad's favorite hooker was approximately $524.83 at the corner of Dawson Boulevard, so i'd say that's a fair price for said new gaming console =]

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BikerSaint
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 12:00:11 PM

souljah92,

At $524.83, I think he got himself hosed in more ways than just one.

He should've haggled for her patented 95% off "Sunrise in the side-alley" matinee special.

BTW, and during sunlight hours, that paper bag over her head is only 50 cents more, LMAo

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souljah92
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 3:07:31 PM

^LOLOLOLOLOLLLLL

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JLB1
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 2:29:29 AM
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Depends on the hardware really. Most people are willing to pay anything, though. I'm leaning more toward a $400 to $450 price tag.

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kingjose
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 2:44:20 AM
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350 max for the larger gb

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 3:31:52 AM
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Definitely no more than $500. That's my limit. If it's any higher than that, it's definitely not quite worth it just yet. Besides, looking at how little of a selection of exclusives there might be at launch, there's all the more reason to wait it out for price drops.

Unless Sony has been keeping a really great title under wraps just for the PS4, then that may be a little more of an incentive. But, can't give what I don't have, even if it could be an amazing bundled title. I'll just have to stick to what I did before I got my own PS3 a couple years after its launch: continue to play the previous system.

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D1g1tal5torm
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 7:36:25 AM
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knowing sony -they're gonna slap a ridiculous one on it.

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FullmetalX10
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 7:43:03 AM
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It all depends on what the system has to offer, if it has nothing new, I say 300 bucks, but if it offers all sorts of things we've never seen before the price can go way up for me.

I'm willing to pay for what the system is worth.
If you look at the Vita and see how much it offers, apart from the internal memory/memory stick problem, I would gladly pay 50-75 bucks more than the asking price, because that's what it's worth in my eyes.

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___________
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 7:47:35 AM
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i think 600 is fair, totally depends on what it has though.
i just really hope $ony does not lower the price point and go for cheaper lower spec hardware.
playstation products have always been so far ahead of their time, and thats exactly how they should stay!
if we cant run games in full HD, 60FPS in 3D, or even ray tracing at 720P then its a waste of time and money!


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Fane1024
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 6:48:00 AM

Is that $600 USD or $600 AUD? You never make yourself clear.

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___________
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 7:39:25 AM

depends.
if $ony do their usual and take the US price and double it then AUD.
if they take the US price and convert it to AUD then USD.
since AUD is actually worth more ATM, and to be honest i wont be surprised if it stays that way, or close to for a long long time!
US has the financial credibility of a 3rd world country ATM!

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thj_1980
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 3:00:48 PM

haha lol.

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Ichigo40
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 8:10:43 AM
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I think anywhere from $350 to $500 would be ok with me. I understand that Sony needs to make profit but I would also like them to give us the best machine that they can. There is no denying that the PS3 is a better machine than the 360 so I've always felt that the higher price has always been justified.

I bought my PS3 day one and I was ok with the price but I also know that I'm not the majority...and that same majority will probably complain about anything over $300 so its going to be interesting to see what Sony will do on the price front. Maybe the'll have multiple versions at different price tags for the PS4.

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AcHiLLiA
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 8:50:00 AM
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I say no more than $400. Blu-ray is here to stay, we probably will see quad-layers on each side of a blu-ray disc, that means will probably see at least 100GB on each side of the disc, It could also bump up the price tag if they put that kind of technology inside the PS4. And I bet Kojima and Naughty Dog will be so much more influenced by it.

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Bonampak
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 9:08:43 AM
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We can all here say what we think the PS4 should cost. But the fact of the matter, is that the price will be based on external factors.

For instance, if the Wii U and Xbox720 come out before the PS4 and either of those systems is priced at $399.99, then Sony is undoubtedly going to try and match that same price point. They wouldn't want to sell their console at a higher price than the competition's.

I think Sony is already aware of that possibility. Thus why early last year, Masaru Kato, Sony’s EVP and chief financial officer said that "It is no longer thinkable to have a huge initial financial investment like that of the PS3".

Basically, the company won’t invest a lot to PS4′s technology as they did with PS3. So the PS4 will most likely re-use "old" technology to make the console cheaper to produce. They will probably still use the BluRay format as well.

I know that for some of you, this would be disappointing since you want the PS4 to be on the cutting edge. But you have to consider that the PS4 needs to have an affordable price.

If the PS4 is ever going to enjoy the kind of mainstream success that both the PS1 and PS2 enjoyed, then it needs to cater to mainstream consumers in terms of its price. And presently, with the economy being in the state that it is, you cannot sell a system at $600.00 and expect it to fly off the shelves. Not everyone is a hardcore gamer willing to spend a small fortune on a console and games. And a console cannot thrive with only that niche group supporting it.

Anyway, I expect the PS4 to cost below $400.00

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Fane1024
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 6:52:49 AM

720 and PS4 specs are gonna make the WiiU look like the current-gen system it is. If it retails for the same price as the next-gen systems, it will only sell to the Nintendo hardcore.

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thj_1980
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 9:10:39 AM
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I am wondering, all of sony's systems ever released have a different game media, well PSX is really a ps2 that can record tv so it doesn't really count as a whole new system.

I am wondering if they might re use blu-ray or go with holographic discs.

I hope they make it backwards compatible with PS1, PS2, PS3, psp minis lol if i was to pay $500 for it to play all that it might be well worth it.

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slugga_status
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 10:16:52 AM
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I'm thinking the PS4 will be around $400. I can't justify spending more than that when my PS3 is still working perfectly fine. Unless, it has b/c then that changes the game quite a bit, for me at least..

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jimmyhandsome
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 10:22:30 AM
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Sony (and Microsoft) need to take into consideration the state of the global economy when they introduce these consoles and price them. Consumers will be hesitant to upgrade their perfectly fine PS3s and 360s if the price is too much. I'm thinking they need to be between $349-400, MAX. (Yes, I know thats wishful thinking and a shot in the dark as we don't have any idea what these consoles are capable of).

And even then I feel as though these consoles might be slower out the gate then last time around. Its not 2005/2006 or even 2001 anymore. Of course the early adopters will be foaming at the mouth for the consoles, but they don't make up the majority of the consumers.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 5:35:46 PM

These so-called economical problems haven't seem to have affected the sale of outrageously expensive smartphones, a total luxury item. And car sales seem to be doing just fine, too.

...seems to me people have plenty of money.

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Raze22
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 10:00:31 PM

The big question is can they put down another 500 to just get a game console?

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jimmyhandsome
Monday, January 09, 2012 @ 11:59:17 AM

Smartphones are a different market. People need cell phones and often sign into contracts to get a discounted price. Upgrading a videogame console for $400-500 might not be feasible for the same people

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Underdog15
Wednesday, January 11, 2012 @ 12:25:57 PM

Do people REALLY need cellphones? Even 10 years ago, not every kid had them in high school. And texting was freakin' expensive.

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Bjorn77
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 11:22:21 AM
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I guess it would be between 450 and 550 Euro.... the PS3 goes now for 249 - 299 Euro. So any amount below 400 Euro is an utopia.

I really hope it is between 400 and 500 Euro then I would buy it right away. 550 and 600 Euro I am going to pass.

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THEVERDIN
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 11:30:13 AM
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I think people have to remember that with these new phones and tablets you're paying for mobility. I think $400 is my breaking point,but I'm retired and living on a fixed income.

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BikerSaint
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 12:12:21 PM
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THEVERDIN,
Welcome to the 1952 club.
Look like there are 2 of us in it here at PSXE now.

11/5/1952 myself, so it looks like I'll be vacating my "oldest member here" reins & handing them over to you now, LOL

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Fane1024
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 6:56:26 AM

I'm "retired", but it's not by choice and almost certainly not permanent. I did cash an RRSP, though.

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Orion_Pax
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 12:46:54 PM
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After buying the original 60g at $600 and another $350 one, the PS4 should be about twelve bucks. and thats if it's bundled with 2 controllers, and half a dozen games. Seriously Sony, show your fans some love.

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Fane1024
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 7:00:04 AM

The PS4 bought 2 PS3s? Isn't that like slavery?

Just a grammar-based joke. Forgive my pedantry.

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DjEezzy
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 1:25:38 PM
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I'd say $400 is about right. I mean i just can't see how much further they are going to take the technology. I do believe it'll run much smoother and will have better overall graphics. I also think it'll have great support for the vita as well and that it'll be made with 3d in mind. Oh and i think the online will be much better in the future.
As far as apple goes... I don't have an iphone but i do have a mac book. Apple makes extremely nice products that last a very long time. They are expensive but in apples case, you do get what you pay for. I mean has anyone seen RAGE being played on an iphone. It looks amazing!
With apple i try not to think about the politics that alot of people tend to focus on and complain about. I look solely at their products which are both extremely reliable and forward thinking as well. People can hate all they want but you get what you pay for.

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Dante399
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 1:38:45 PM
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I don't care about the price as much as I care about the quality. Sony should make a device that can withstand the competition both in price and quality.

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Darwin1967
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 2:15:07 PM
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I never buy the 1st gen model...I got the second gen phatty which still died from the YLOD. I'd like to see a 400-450 price point, as that would work in my budget. I just hope this race to release doesn't result in a bevvy of ROD's and YLOD's. The PS2 I bought still works perfectly, not a single problem, but my PS3's have been trouble from the get go. fingers crossed for a glitch free release!

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thj_1980
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 2:56:43 PM
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Actually who thinks making it $299 and dropping the ps3 down to $200

psp will be $80

psp Go $100

Vita stays the same!!


LOL.

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xnonsuchx
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 2:57:16 PM
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Preferably $400 (or less), as I think $500+ would be crippling, sales-wise. $450 might be acceptable at first, but would need to drop at least $50 in the first year.

It should also be PS3 (and PS) compatible, unless specs were drastically changed from what was originally expected, but trying to do full PS2 software emulation would still be spotty for them to try.

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burnlife308
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 3:12:04 PM
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hopefully by then SSD will be around the same price as HDD where a year ago so you can have an option to get say 250 GB SSD and a 1 TB HDD then id say it would make the $600 justifiable or make it an option

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Fane1024
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 7:05:18 AM

SSDs are over 4x the price of comparably sized HDDs. I doubt we'll see them as standard features on next-gen systems, certainly not at launch.

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burnlife308
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 3:13:12 PM
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oops i said make it an option twice

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burnedknight
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 3:38:16 PM
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I'm not ready for PS4 yet but when the ps4 releases I hope it will be in the $400- 450 range hopefully not more than that .

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CrusaderForever
Saturday, January 07, 2012 @ 6:52:23 PM
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I would pay $600 if the tech was up to date. For instance, SATAIII/SSD 6Gb/s 500GB or higher, 2/4GB DDR3 and very good graphic card.

Listen 5 years from now we'll be in the same boat as we are now. Yes the PS3 has a lot of gas in the tank. However, it is lacking and could be so much more if it could be upgraded. Build a solid PS4 so we can truly enjoy a 10 years life span with no PS5 dreaming.

If they cannot use today's top of the line hardware then it would have to be priced at $400 or below.

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PHOENIXZERO
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 1:40:55 AM
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300 to 400 bucks, Sony's not going to be putting in over $800 worth of hardware in it again. The single biggest cost to the PS3 was the BR drive and that is no longer anywhere near the cost it was in 2006 and there's no doubt Sony is going with BR again. There's that and the likelihood that Sony isn't spending a arm and a leg on R&D with either going with an upgraded version of Cell or a more tradition CPU architecture. Can't see why they wouldn't go with NVidia again either, if they keep Cell it'd make BC a bit easier at least.

Anyway, the point is Sony isn't going to go nuts like they did with the PS3 in an attempt to Trojan horse a new media format into homes nor are they going to spend a ton on a "exotic" CPU architecture so right away costs are going to be much, much lower.

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PharaohJR
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 3:00:56 AM
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i paid 712 for a original fat 60g (including NFS carbon) in feb 07. do i regret it?....... HELL NAW, why? it delivered everthing 360 & wii could do & does more. it delivered grade A titles not from launch but eventually. new features on a console & a driver that allowed massive data for a new level of detailed environments. i could type more features but im tired right now lol.

considering this is a console market (a device that primary is about gaming) if PS4 delivers new innovation with backward compatibility, i be glad to throw down 5-6 bills again. if its just a slight upgrade like more ram 450 the most.

as a consumer i have 1 request..... stop rushing games with alot of bugs & bulls$%t, since everbody jumping on dlc move least u can do is deliver a game with less bugs out the box.

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Kevin5
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 3:22:01 AM
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I will take a stab at around $500 in the U.S & over $1000 here in AU.

Regardless of the price i ain't buying it launch night like i did the PS3 (I paid $1000 for that on launch with only one game to play, VF5), instead i am going to wait it out until a solid list of games come out that i like, then i will splash out. Nothing worse then having a shiny new console sitting in your T.V cabinet with nothing decent to play on it.


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Fane1024
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 7:11:17 AM

I didn't own a PS3 game for nearly 11 months after I bought my PS3 (Feb 07 to Xmas). I still used it every day. How is that possible?

It only does everything.


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Underdog15
Wednesday, January 11, 2012 @ 12:55:38 PM

I bought mine at release.

Best all-nighter ever!

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cadpig
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 8:44:02 AM
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I'm not going to mortgage my shack or get a second job for a game console. $400 seems like a good launching price.

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placenta_yogurt
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 2:01:40 PM
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I think that $400 is a good start, but they are going to have to make the deal really sweet. Maybe 6 months of PSN+ and a game. Oh, and Sony? Please put ALL the cables in the box that will be needed to open the box and play, or we will forever here about it on the forums again, and if I have to go through that again my friggin head will explode.

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Marckon
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 2:23:26 PM
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HI all my very first post!!! I been reading this website for a while now and I find it very pleasent and mature.

I really think sony needs to make a cheaper console this time around no higher than 399.99. They really need to understand the market and cater to what we want. I been doing a lot of research lately about the cell and XDR ram and I think they should stick to that technology and improve on it and for god sake make it easier for developers. I have a lot of opinions on this, but this being my first post i dont want to put it all out there so soon.

Anyway guys I dont have a lot of PSN friends and I think I can find some good friends in here. My PSN is Glaukon so send an invite if you need someone to play with.

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SS4
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 4:20:57 PM
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5 Dollaaa!!!!!

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Omnipro
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 7:38:25 PM
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I waited enjoying to PS2 until I was able to afford the $299 250GB PS3 about two years ago.
I will do the same with the PS4. I got a job, and enjoy a lot of TV, and Movies, so I am behind on a lot of good PS3 games, so I can wait again for the PS4.
The PS3 is great and I can't imagine what the PS4 will have to get me to buy it at release unless it has a brain controller or virtual reality.

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Ather
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 8:30:54 PM
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I'll give them $200 provided they have an easy way tot ransfer everything off my Ps3 hard drive to the PS4. If Sony can be ridiculous with prices, why not me?

The problem is perceived value. Sony thinks the stuff they load into their machines is worth a certain price. They send their plants to comment with wow, I can't believe it's so cheap for all that tech. It should be more. How can they make any money?

But do real people agree? No. People didn't agree with $600 for a PS3. People didn't agree with $250 for Nintendo's 3DS. Depsite the wow, they should be charging more for Vita comments, it seems way too high. As soon as Nintendo's big price drop for 3DS was announced, people began demanding it for Vita as well. Take the hint, Sony. What you perceive the value to be is too much.

Maybe the solution is for the companies to make a list of new fetaures, then let people vote onw hat they want. That'll limit the prices better. Sony justified Ps3 as a cheap Blu-Ray player that also plays games. Alas, most people didn't even have Blu-Rays. I would have been saitisfied with a PS3 without Blu-Ray features. I would have bought mine then and there, not years later. But Sony was too busy trying to force their format, and it failed them in proper PS3 sales (yes they won the format wars, but look how much a beating PS3 intially took.) Thye promise 10 years, but 5 years later, time for a new system, and a promise of course games will continue for PS3. Sorry, not good enough. If a machine is worht 10 years (and thta appearntly makes $600 a baragin), you nee dit to actually last 10 years with full support.

The 5 year rule was moronic then, it's more so now. Add in the lack of money for the world, and charging $800 for a PS4 full of stuff nobody wants, guaranteed to last 10 years (but 5 before PS5 comes out), and their cruising for a brusing (financially.) We don't need new consuls. We don't wnat them, and can't afford them. Hence why I;m not getting Vita, Ps4, or Xbox 720. I ahve enough game sbacklogged to last mew a few more years, coupled with the last trickle for the "old" consuls. See you all for Ps5 and Xbox 1540. Assumign the bigwigs learn their idea of fair value for tech is overinflated comapared to our ideas. Console prices for handhelds. nearly a thousand bucks per system. In a time when the world's economy is dying it's last breath. I don't see this recession proof business lasting. Go cheap or go home, fellas. And dump the 5 year rule. make a new system when needed, and when new things cna be offerred. Some marginally better graphics and a bit mroe motion support is not justifiable. leats of all for the prices you're asking for.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, January 11, 2012 @ 12:59:10 PM

Considering the PS3 was sold at a manufacturing loss says that whatever prices they charged were below profitability.

Phones and Tablets sell at high prices because they seek good profit from each sale. They are overpriced, while PS3's were under-priced.

When the PS3 first released, it was well ahead of the curve in terms of potential and current offerings. Blu-ray players alone, at that time, were not very different in price.

Sony, in all departments, have always been known for releasing cutting edge technology. They have also been known for having more expensive prices. But it isn't unfair... cutting edge is and always will be more expensive than the alternatives.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, January 11, 2012 @ 1:16:43 PM

Additionally, if you remember, the PS2 was also a 10 year system. Sure, the PS3 came out almost 6 years in, but they continued to support the PS2, and they sold an additional 40+ million PS2's after the PS3 released. The PS3 will likely see the same treatment.

I expect them to do the same thing here with this promise. I'm not sure what your complaint is there.

your post would be easier to consider if you understood the value of tech a little better. Seriously... do some research into the cost of certain specs in 2006, look at the cost of blu-ray players in 2006, and compare that to what the PS3 offered at the time (including full b/c) and tell me again it was overpriced.

If anything, they were overzealous. But in all truth and honesty.... well... they just understood the consequences to releasing a piece of tech that is ahead of the curve. It's Sony. They've been doing that since well before the PS1 even came out.

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Ather
Sunday, January 08, 2012 @ 8:33:44 PM
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Oh, and don't compare price for phones and tablets to gameing systems. You can't move around town with a PS4. Consoles and phones are different breeds of different species. It's as good as big busiensses idea that peopel are dying to have tiered internet service, because we oh so love it for our cable. Strangely, johnny Consumer doesn't see it that way.

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phade2blaq
Monday, January 09, 2012 @ 6:22:16 AM
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I just hope Sony makes a console that doesn't: Freeze, Overheat, Stop reading discs and Skips when playing ! That would make me happiest !

I've owned a PS1, PS2 and currently a PS3 and I have had one or all of the above issues with every Playstation that I've owned ! Matter of fact my PS3 is sitting at a repair facility now for the 3rd time since I've had it for the same reasons, discs wouldn't eject or they would eject too far and some movies and game discs weren't being read !

As far as the PS4 price point is concerned, I would say no more than $400 !

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Underdog15
Wednesday, January 11, 2012 @ 1:13:47 PM

What do you do to your systems??!?!?! lol

That's either freakish luck or you abuse your hardware.

PS2 was recognized by MANY for it's reliability. PS1 had eventual disk read errors for some, but that's it. PS3 fits below the acceptable failure rate for hardware, and therefore, can't really be penalized as a whole. (In other words, it's acceptably reliable from a hardware standards point of view.

As for your desires, any time you deal with something that generates heat or has moving parts, you risk a 5% failure rate. That's a rate for hardware of any type of computer or appliance. If your failure rate is below 5%, it's seen as "reliable".

Additionally, anytime you work with an HDD, you will always have risk of file corruption. Something as minor as a power surge, outage, cancelled operation, or anything abnormal during a saving process could potentially corrupt a file. If your game system data becomes corrupted, you run the risk of your game freezing. It's actually more indicative of the game design than it is the system in question. The fix is easy... Delete any system data the freezing game has on your system, then re-install it next start up.

So basically, freezing may not reflect your system and cannot be avoided 100%, overheating will eternally be a risk and you can only hope for less than a 5% chance of failure, stopping reading discs is a potential for any DVD, blu-ray or CD player if the disc drive fails because it's a moving part that also hopefully falls below that 5% failure rate, and finally....

Skipping? I have never had that in any system or PC. Last time I had that was in a CD player my parents had in the early 90's... i would stop moving your system around while it's playing or stop doing jumping jacks or whatever it is you do to cause skipping. lol

As for your current PS3.... stop sending it in for repairs. Just replace the blu-ray drive and be done with it. Someone's ripping you off. If it's Sony's repair facility you mail to and it's the 3rd time, I'm 99% sure you're doing something to destroy your systems.

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mason
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 1:51:47 PM
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I would pay $300 for a PS4 that I could play 5-8, have Youtube and internet. Seeing the touch screen is pretty bossly but I could care less for it if I saved. Of course we need to play movies. A cool thing to add is that you can change your Online ID. But they should change Online ID to Gamer ID. It makes it sound more pro. Also to have a character not avatar. Instead of cash in the account, lets have it called Gold. And we need to be able to play MW4 while in a private headset chat. And instead of Playstation Network, let's call it Gamer Network. Also when you buy the system, you receive a little Gold and you can pick out 1 game. Instead of Plus, let's name it ELITE. Add these and I will buy a steel case for it and use gloves when I touch it! With my wallet and Christmas cash, at the highest for me would be $350. I get $250 from Christmas as a gift that my parents give me. So I would only need $50. Sony if you are reading this, then please place the price at $300!

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