Does PlayStation All-Stars Have Enough Icon Power?
Forget the comparisons to Super Smash Bros. for a minute.
The big question here is whether or not the characters in PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale have enough iconic punching power to charm and intrigue even the most ardent PlayStation lovers.
To be fair, this game is clearly designed for long-time fans of Sony's universe. It's not about delivering a complex, intricate fighting mechanic and it probably won't offer much in the way of combat innovation or evolution. The primary appeal is obvious- The nostalgic fan desire to pit their favorite characters against one another in a fun-filled romp.
In SSB, the appeal is the same. But in that case, we have several decades of iconic memorable faces; from Mario to Samus to Link to Bowser and a dozen others in between. And while I'm a plenty big PlayStation fan, and I have very fond memories of Kratos, Drake, Ratchet, Parappa, etc., I'm wondering if there's enough history behind such characters to entice the fans. It's all about character impact, is it not? Granted, sometimes I forget just how long the PlayStation brand has been around; it has been around a good, what, 17 years?
And I suppose in the long run, Nintendo wasn't that much older when we first heard about SSB. But at the same time, we're talking about the dawn of gaming, the characters that defined the childhoods of a great many teen and adult gamers. Many younger people will argue the same for PlayStation but the gaming landscape was very different at that time and overall, nobody will say someone like Kratos is as well-known and beloved as Mario. In short, I'm just not sure the legendary status of the PlayStation characters are enduring and deep-set enough to warrant this title.
It's not a rhetorical question; I have no answer. I didn't care about SSB; I don't care about PlayStation All-Stars. This is merely a simple observation and nothing more.
4/27/2012 Ben Dutka
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Comments (71 posts)
Palpatations911
Friday, April 27, 2012 @ 9:51:18 PM
ZettaiSeigi
Friday, April 27, 2012 @ 11:23:34 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, April 27, 2012 @ 11:31:24 PM
TheAgingHipster
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 7:43:01 AM
Palpatations911
Friday, April 27, 2012 @ 9:51:48 PM
dbyzforce
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 9:02:44 AM
Temjin001
Friday, April 27, 2012 @ 9:51:44 PM
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While this game just isn't for me, I do like Sony's effort to delineate their offerings from MS's and Nintendo's by putting more products out their that brings Sony's family of icons to light.
I do question how segmented Sony's franchises are. Franchises that specifically target different ages. Games like LBP and Modnation Racers, to me, seem to have a very different target than the audience drawn to GoW and Resistance etc. It just seems like a pretty large range of ages they're attempting on this one. It sort of has me wondering how successful this game will be.
Excelsior1
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 6:38:43 AM
The question as to whether or not this title is warranted is a legitimate one. It's also legitimate to wonder if Sony's icons have enough star power to make this title a success. I also wonder whether this is the type of game the more mature PS3 demographic would go for in the first place.
Sony did state back in the past the wanted to target a younger demographic. It looks like this is the type of game that might help accomplish this goal.
I sure hope the include Cloud and Sephiroth.
DeusExMachina
Sunday, April 29, 2012 @ 7:13:14 AM
So I think this title wil 1. as you say only help Sony cement there francises further in the industry and 2. Give something I feel the playstation fans have always wanted actually, I know I have ever since I played SSB (still love that damn franchise) "this would be so awesum with Playstation characters".
VampDeLeon
Friday, April 27, 2012 @ 10:15:44 PM
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I can imagine from PS1, famous characters would include: Cloud & Sephiroth.. maybe Aeris and Tifa too (FFVII), Squall & Laguna (FFVIII), Zidane/Vivi (FFIX), Heihachi, Kazuya, and Jin (Tekken series), Lara Croft (Tomb Raider), Solid Snake (Metal Gear Solid), Crash & Coco (Crash Bandicoot), Duke Nukem, Sir Daniel Fortesque (MediEvil), Spyro the Dragon
PS2: Jak & Daxter, Prince (Prince of Persia), Ico, Wander (Shadow of Colossus), Tidus & Yuna (Final Fantasy X & X-2), Raiden (Metal Gear Solid 2), Big Boss & Boss (Metal Gear Solid 3)
PS3: Altair/Ezio (Assassin's Creed was originally announced as a PS exclusive game prior to release), Lightning & Serah (FFXIII & FFXIII-2), Niko Bellic (Grand Theft Auto 4), Robed Figure (Journey), Old Snake (MGS4),
This is pretty much who I can think up off the top of my head without looking through my game collection, though I'm sure I'm missing a ton who would also fit in.
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Palpatations911
Friday, April 27, 2012 @ 10:58:31 PM
LowKey
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 1:51:37 AM
VampDeLeon
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 10:13:22 AM
Best example, Snake was on Nintendo's Super Smash Bros. Brawl because of the MGS remake, Twin Snakes despite the fact that he was on just about every console and handheld prior. Using that ruling, that invites a large majority of famous characters that have debuted on a PS console.
Last edited by VampDeLeon on 4/28/2012 10:15:58 AM
LowKey
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 12:45:22 PM
VampDeLeon
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 1:37:53 PM
grayfox2k8
Friday, April 27, 2012 @ 10:41:52 PM
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Palpatations911
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 7:18:51 PM
Fabi
Friday, April 27, 2012 @ 10:57:30 PM
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Mr. Game&Watch, Marth, Meta Knight, DeDeDe, Ike, Lucas, Ness, Popo, Nana aren't all exactly gaming legends either.
There is also another list of mid-tier characters and then the heavy hitters like the 14 versions of Mario and Luigi, hehe.
Anyway, Sony's characters might not be as iconic, but I feel like they are all good enough to carry a game. I think it will all make a little more sense when we find out who's in it.
I think a lot of the complaints are coming from X-Box owners because they realize their system doesn't have enough characters to pull this off.
Phoenix
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 7:45:53 AM
Fabi
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 1:42:29 PM
I've been gaming since the Atari 2600, and have never been a Nintendo fan, but I know tons about gaming. So therefore I never cared for Nintendo characters, so when I first started playing SSB I didn't care or even know about a lot of those characters.
Don't tell me Marth, DeDeDe and Lucas are icons. Please.
Phoenix
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 6:26:44 PM
I've only played 1 Fire Emblem game, and 0 kirby games, and I knew who marth/ike and DeDeDe were, and they ARE iconic to thier franchise, so PLEASE!.
Fabi
Sunday, April 29, 2012 @ 2:33:38 AM
You don't think there are tons of people who have owned every PS system and hold these PS characters dear to them? You're acting like if the PS brand has only been around for this generation or something. Must I remind you how many systems the PS2 sold?
Phoenix
Sunday, April 29, 2012 @ 10:19:50 AM
Honestly, Cole is a nobody compared to them, and so is just about everyone sony can muster. You can argue about is asmuch as u wish, still doesnt change the fact that Sony just doesnt have the star power.
Fabi
Sunday, April 29, 2012 @ 1:11:40 PM
JackDillinger89
Friday, April 27, 2012 @ 11:30:13 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, April 27, 2012 @ 11:30:15 PM
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Lawless SXE
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 1:20:40 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 1:58:05 AM
Lawless SXE
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 7:20:38 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 12:45:58 PM
PC_Max
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 12:18:42 AM
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I have heard people call this a rip-off game. Please. There is no such thing as an original game. Every game, its dynamics and such is based on game that came before it. The first vid games were based on board games and the game dynamics within the those games. Ideas come from what the devs enjoy playing. Thats the way of it. And this game works off that.
Keep Playing!
UbiEaActisuck
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 12:56:01 AM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 1:59:26 AM
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karneli lll
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 3:38:52 AM
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Not really,this could be a big marketing stunt in disguise. People play,enjoy the characters and look for their games.With all these casual games, it seems like Sony is gearing up for the fallout of the wii u
AugustoDeItalia
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 11:24:39 AM
Ultimadream
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 5:34:50 AM
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When you look at Sony's list, sure you do have a few good one's Drake, Kratos, I even like the re-appearance of Pappa the Rapper (& hope to see more come backs like that.) But the list pales in comparison and unlike back in the PS1 days a lot of these third party games went on the 360 so that eliminates, Dante, Vincent (Catherine), Big Daddy, (Bio Shock), Monkey (Enslaved., Isaac (Dead Space), The Woman from Mirror's Edge, any FF character... The list goes on...
Assassins Creed characters seem to whore up any series, so I am sure Ezio or Altair will make an appearance. Snake might be a possibility too... but overall the sucess really depends on if they get 3rd parties involved.
___________
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 5:57:27 AM
FF was first on ninty platforms too, only when they ditched $ony for the ps1 disk attachment and stuck with cartridges did FF leave ninty.
its going to be allot harder now because allot of their mascots are no longer exclusive, crash, snake, spyro, but they have added enough new ones to fill the gaps.
we NEED to have sweet tooth, doll face and ratchet and clank in this!
Phoenix
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 7:36:28 AM
IF they bring in 3rd party characters, this might be worth a look come launch, but if they dont, this has PASS written all over it.
Just curious, all the fanboys getting wood over this game already, what was your first console?
Fabi
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 1:47:54 PM
I don't care if the game copies SSB. I don't care if they aren't icons to everyone else. I personally know and care about all those PS characters. It's not like this game is being made for people WHO AREN'T into the PS brand. So then why does it matter if they are gaming icons or not? They are PS icons.
I personally don't give two s*its about Mario, Metroid, Halo, Gears or Kirby. So this game is being made for someone like me who has played all these PS games and want a 4 player brawl game on my system.
When I play SSB, I don't even use the characters that I know! I use Marth, someone who I didn't even know existed in gaming until I played SSB. I don't care if I'm using a icon, I just want it to be fun.
Phoenix
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 6:35:02 PM
I grew up with NES back in 85, and I've owned just about every console since then, and I can think of icons for just about every company, except Sony. I'm not sure why it is, I know they've tried to make certain characters iconic, like crash, despite the games being bad, and now they've atleast got that drake fellow, and kratos, but beyond that I cant really think of any from PS that are really iconic of the company.
___________
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 5:52:39 AM
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you cant do a game like this unless you have characters you can call homage too.
id love to see crash in there but antivision owns the licensing to him now so i doubt we will.
spyro would be nice too but same as crash $ony no longer has the license.
:(
Miggy
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 9:08:41 AM
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If they could somehow manage to get Dart from Legend of Dragoon and Vahn from Legend of Legaia, imo the game would be that much better. Even Spike from Ape Escape would be great. Ape Escape was a blast.
I think I'm going to hook up my psx and play those again.
bigrailer19
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 9:18:22 AM
AcHiLLiA
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 11:39:52 AM
bigrailer19
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 9:19:11 AM
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jimmyhandsome
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 9:21:06 AM
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Would love to see a highly pixelated Lara Croft (PSX-era)in there as a 3rd party character. What they really need is QUANTITY. If they really diversify the cast they will be able to please alot more people. I hope the roster is closer to 40 and not 20.
Fabi
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 1:50:19 PM
BikerSaint
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 11:10:58 AM
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Beamboom
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 2:10:52 PM
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Why would I want Shepard and Alcatraz to fight each other? What's the point? Or a Big Daddy to chuck his drill through Adam Jensen? They all belong to their worlds, and their worlds are incompatible. This is just... Stupid!
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Oyashiro
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 7:35:44 PM
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Ape Escape
Arc the Lad
Dark Cloud
Demon's Souls
Dead Nation
EyePet
Folklore
Genji
Ghosthunter
Gravity Daze
Hot Shots Golf
Ico
inFamous
Jak and Daxter
Jeanne d'Arc
Jumping Flash!
The Last of Us
The Legend of Dragoon
LittleBigPlanet
The Mark of Kri
MediEvil
Okage: Shadow King
Primal
Ratchet & Clank
Rogue Galaxy
Shadow of the Colossus
Syphon Filter
Uncharted
UmJammer Lammy
White Knight Chronicles
Wild Arms
Not to mention all the possible 3rd party characters.
Sir Dan
Saturday, April 28, 2012 @ 10:15:06 PM
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Mogreen
Sunday, April 29, 2012 @ 6:32:27 AM
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I've had every playstation system i'm excited for this. I know most of Sony's character's and I like SSB. There's nothing not to like about this game if you're a playstation fan. Atleast not yet, none of us played it.
Squirrelicus
Sunday, April 29, 2012 @ 10:24:32 AM
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While many of this generation never played the original NES games or Sega games the developers who made CoD and GoW and Uncharted did, and they're heavily influenced by those games.
BTW how do you not know about Parappa the Rappa? better Wikipedia that ****.
Last edited by Squirrelicus on 4/29/2012 10:25:43 AM
Ninja_WafflesXD
Sunday, April 29, 2012 @ 11:44:03 AM
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Not to say that the idea of Kratos from GOW mashing it up alongside Cole from Infamous doesn't colour me excited, but this would probably be higher on my to-buy list if it had characters like: Sora from KH, most main FF characters, Leon/Chris from RE, Dante from DMC....and the list goes on.
And then of course, people brought up Crash and Spryo :/ Along with the likes of Mario and Sonic....that was my childhood.
Anyway, I'm kinda excited to see where this is going, and I don't wanna be a spoil-sport, but I think that Nintendo's icons DOES leave a bigger impression on the gaming community. This due to having been around SO long and because they're more-or-less loved by all ages :)
(But I wish Sony all the best luck anyway! I really want them to succeed :)
Gradon
Sunday, April 29, 2012 @ 2:33:42 PM
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However, characters from Ape Escape would make this game for me, I seriously doubt it though, since they're owned by the Japanese branch of Sony, and Ape Escape sequels don't sell too well in America. Kakeru or a Pipo Monkey would be perfect for this kind of gameplay, though.
Nestore
Sunday, April 29, 2012 @ 2:39:39 PM
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When I look at games featured like Killzone, Patapon, LBP: I *loved* all those games for interesting game mechanics, and art style, but I don't have any attachment to the actual characters in the games.
Take Buzz: People liked it because it was a great trivia game, but there isn't a character or fiction to really care about. But I love the way they have the Buzz mashup level with a trivia component.
I love SSB, but this game looks like it will be much better.

PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale









Palpatations911
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Friday, April 27, 2012 @ 9:50:00 PM
Will it be as successful as the Smash Bros. series? Maybe not. There are a lot more people that grew up with the Nintendo characters like Mario, Samus and Link then some of the big name Sony characters. Nintendo's first home console came out in like 1985 or so and the original Playstation came out 10 years later.
Also, Nintendo had a good run where it was ultra dominant in the homes until the Sega Genesis came out.
Nonetheless, Playstation All-Stars should be a blast to play and it will create a lot of interesting matchups. I just hope that Sony does even more fan service and allows us to vote on some of the included characters (at least via DLC after release) and while I am not a Crash Bandicoot fan, I know a lot of people will be frustrated if they don't add him. Heck, Sony owes much of their PSX success to the little furball.
I think they'll do the right thing.