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Ben's Week In Review: November 18

This review insanity just has to end. It has to...and thankfully, the end (such as it is) appears to be in sight! Far Cry 3 kinda marks the end of the huge releases for 2012.

I'm already excited for Whore of the Orient

I loved L.A. Noire. It featured one of the best stories of the generation and the crime-solving detective work was surprisingly in-depth and intricate. It wasn't perfect, as the interrogation of witnesses and suspects had a few flaws, and driving without taking damage got a little old, but that game was still absolutely ahead of its time. The Motion Scan technology showed us a virtual world where faces tell a great deal more than words, and it worked extremely well for a first run. Tech debuts aren't usually that impressive. And now Team Bondi has miraculously arisen from the proverbial grave to work on Whore of the Orient, which is a next-gen title that might release in 2015.

What little I know about it makes me plenty excited already. Saying it's "similar" to L.A. Noire is enough for me, but toss in a whole new generation of hardware and 2015 suddenly seems like a looooong way away. It'll be interesting to see how the developers approach this new adventure, and what changes and upgrades they'll make to the L.A. Noire structure. I just hope the design process goes smoothly and doesn't run into the same obstacles Team Bondi encountered with L.A. Noire...if Whore initially has a tentative date of 2015, I don't want to envision a delay.

Not sure if I need backwards compatibility in the PS4

Make no mistake, b/c was the single biggest reason to own a PS3 early on. After all, with little provocative software, you sorta needed it unless you wanted to have a PS2 hooked up at the same time. However, in looking forward to the PS4, I'm not sure b/c registers high on my priority list. Let me explain: As I've mentioned before, I just don't see a lot of games from this generation I'll want to go back and play. I mean, why go back to play Uncharted 3 when I have Uncharted 4? The only reason I go back to play PS1 and PS2 games now is to enjoy gameplay mechanics that have fallen by the wayside (mostly turn-based). Now, it's not about new mechanics; just better ways of implementing familiar mechanics. Why play Killzone 3 when Killzone 4 is out? Why play Gran Turismo 5 when GT6 is out?

Of course, you could make the argument that b/c is still essential for early adopters of the PS4, because there won't be a lot of software available and developers will still be putting out PS3 games at a rapid clip. After all, PS2 titles continued at a steady pace for several years after the PS3 was on store shelves. But even so, I'm not so sure backwards compatibility is a necessity for me next time around. If they want to make b/c doable via the Cloud, fine. I won't care too much if it doesn't happen, though.

Personal gaming update

Until I can get past Far Cry 3 (release date: December 4), I'm still zeroed in on reviews. New ones coming are Call of Duty: Black Ops Declassified (blech), PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale, Okami HD, and Need for Speed: Most Wanted (Vita). Therefore, I have not been able to play the one game I want to play most - Assassin's Creed III - because it's not the kind of adventure one can sit down and play for a half-hour or an hour at a time. It just doesn't work. That's why I'm playing some Vita here and there (Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational, mostly) and Rock Band Blitz. Btw, Cloud_V2, most of your scores are toast...I think you're only beating me on two songs now. Jackpot or Bottle Rocket FTW, depending... ;)

I have my reservations about Hitman: Absolution, but that launch trailer looked pretty sweet. Maybe I'm placing the bar too high by hoping for Dishonored quality... Yeah, I probably am.

11/18/2012 Ben Dutka

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Comments (40 posts)

Norrin Radd
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 12:51:34 AM
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I have never played an older generation game when a new gen is here. However, I usually wait to buy the next gen machine until there is ample software to really support the hardware purchase - so never at launch (PS2 excepted).

But this time around, I can see myself playing Borderlands 1&2 even after I have a PS4. If its BC - great! If not - I've still got my PS3 and it should make it until at least BL3 comes for the net gen. So, I'm set! ;)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 1:22:00 AM
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Yeah I'm looking forward to info on Whore to come rolling in over the next two years, I think it is a title they should go ahead and stream info about so people remember how much fun they had with L.A. Noire instead of going the GTA route and barely releasing anything.

I really really want B/C for PS4 and it would cause me to buy the console sooner rather than later. There are certain games I'll need to finish in the backlog and there are timeless games that I'll want to pick up and re-experience as well as games that I just plain missed out on that have a low price. Plus with continuing franchises like Uncharted it might be fun to play through all the old ones before moving onto the new one.

But I suspect the cell will be ditched and there just won't be any way to do it. Thus I'll have to find some way to have 5 consoles hooked up at once.

Playing The Last Story and Sherlock Holmes. I've poked around a bit in White Knight Chronicles 2 but the constant grinding is putting me off; it's hard to commit the time it requires. Also I keep itching to play Final Fantasy X or X-2, ahhhh.

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Lawless SXE
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 2:02:44 AM

Apparently WBIE is publishing this time, so we might see a longer lead-in of hype than R* uses.

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Pandacastro
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 1:27:15 AM
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Hey ben for some reason I can't change my avatar. Keep on getting a error sign.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 1:35:12 AM

Try a different image. Some images just don't work with our database for some reason.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 1:39:38 AM

I've had that problem too, some lame error no matter what I used but it still went through somehow and started to show up after about 15 minutes.

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Jawknee
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 3:00:06 AM

You can try importing the image you want into MS paint or photoshop, crop it to your desired size then save it as a jpeg.

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Qubex
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 10:05:58 PM

Great Avatar World :)

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Jawknee
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 2:04:33 AM
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PGU: About to set up my deluxe Wii U. :)

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matt99
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 2:10:35 AM

How is it? and what games do you have?

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Jawknee
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 2:46:35 AM

It's awesome. I bought ACIII but haven't played it yet. Still fiddling around with the console settings and what not.

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Killa Tequilla
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 3:23:07 AM

I don't know why, but I would never get a Wii U. If I ever buy one, it won't be for me. The only way I would get one is if pokemon made an appearance! Keep us updated, I'd like to know how's it holding up.

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Jawknee
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 5:43:47 AM

Pokemon will show up on it at some point. Finally got around to playing ACIII for a bit. The graphics are nice. Good performance too. No screen tearing. The games stereoscopic 3D support paired with my TV settings is quite good too. Almost as good as the PS3's 3D support. The resolution on the gamepad is also good though lags a bit in comparison to the Vita. But still good overall. Very pleased so far with the Wii U.

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Qubex
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 10:08:41 PM

Hey Jawknee, was thinking about you when I was reading the Wii U review. Wondering if you had purchased it yet and whether or not you had tried it out.

Looks like you have. Looks quite impressive from what I am reading thus far.

I still have not found a proper breakdown of the tech in the Wii U. CPU, GPU, amount of Ram; its theoretical peak output. Is the hardware package impressive from what you can tell?

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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___________
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 2:05:18 AM
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im intrigued to see what whore will be about, where it will be set, ect, ect.
but the story from LA Noire was not exactly stellar so storywise im not too interested.
im expecting it will be the same as noire, a new fresh different take, but as a game, as a interactive experience it will be pretty meh.
one will have to wait and see, just a shame we have to wait so long!

im not so sure i need ps3 BC either, simply because theres really not that many ps3 games ive really enjoyed and want to go back too.
if i was to make a list of ps1 or ps2 games i want to see remastered we would need to chop down every tree in the universe, 4 fold!
ps3, maybe 5.
no, not 5 fold, maybe 5 games id like to see remastered!
this gens been one massive epic disappointment!
its amazed me how hollywood somehow has woken up and improved itself, and the generation it finally decides to do that, is the generation where videogames the exact polar opposite to hollywood decide to clone it.

took me allot less time to finish black ops than i thought so ive had a little spare time to get back to the games i havent finished yet.
trying to get back into darksiders 2.
its funny the more and more i play it the more and more i start to enjoy it and the more i start to not care about its changes and poor decisions anymore.
its just a shame the fast paced combat is not as refined as the original was.
thats whats really holding it back for me, the original felt polished to a fine bone!
it literally felt like i could close my eyes, run and leap towards a ledge and the game would know where i wanted to go.
it just had a attention to detail you sadly dont see in games anymore.
2 though sadly is the exact opposite, the camera and controls could not be less reliable!
my new pet hate of action games lately has become especially with boss battles, you dodge a attack under their legs but the attack still hits you.
i was fighting the 2nd boss last night cant remember what it was called, but you have to kill him to gain a audience with the lord of the dead and gain the ability to awake the dead.
every time he would swing his tail down in front of himself id roll under his legs, and still get hit.
so your waiving this thing in front of you, a full 180 degrees away from me and its still hitting me.
how does that work?
just gets really frustrating the controls just dont feel as polished and reliable as the original, and nor does the camera especially when theres so many enemies on screen its so hard to maintain sight of your character.
its a shame that something so simple, and something the original did so well, is the thing thats spoiling this.
the changes i can deal with, the radically different combat system im actually enjoying i like deaths much faster pace.
its always the small things that have to go spoil everything.

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xenris
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 8:40:27 AM

Love it or hate it that is why I love Demon/Dark Souls. The dodging and hit boxes are SO fine tuned that you can dodge right under neath sword swings and they wont hit you. Some Magic attacks are harder to dodge but once you know the size or spells or special boss attacks it becomes really easy to dodge stuff if you keep a cool head.

I also think DS1 was overall better than DS2, however I thought DS2s idea were awesome and if they had have waited about 4 more months the game would have been better. I don't mind the faster combat, and the loot but the puzzles did get a little boring by the end. Also the music is fantastic.

I just hope it sells well enough for an ACTUAL sequel where we can see what happens at the end of DS1. I want a game where all the riders team up either as a co op game, or as a SP game where you switch between the four horsemen throughout the story. So one mission your playing as War then the story continues and it says something like meanwhile or whatever and Fury is up to something somewhere else etc. It would take effort to make that work but I think that would be the best way to do it. If they did Co op the narrative might not be the best and dungeon puzzles would have to be designed for 1 or 4 players so it might be a little underwhelming.

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___________
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 9:20:31 AM

nah that would make the story far too hard to follow.
plus 2 suffered because of their ambitions, having 4 characters, 4 different combat styles, its just too much to bite off.
id much rather see darksiders 3 finalizes the story of war, than 4 finalizes the story of death.
than go on from there, have each game for each character that way they can focus on 1 character and 1 story arc.
sadly though judging by THQs financial position, and their and vergils attitude it seems like neither of them want to do another darksiders game.
in fact ill be really surprised if we see another one, which is such a shame because it has so much potential!

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Lawless SXE
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 2:21:27 AM
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Definitely want to see more of the Whore (the game I mean >.>). I don't think that it'll necessarily incorporate the ideas of L.A. Noire though. Some will be intact, I'm sure, but McNamara seems like a progressive guy in regards to the games that he's produced in the past and, I think, wouldn't be likely to revisit the same mechanics as a central part of the game. I just think it'll be extremely intelligent and better than L.A. Noire by an impressive margin.

I'll let you know how I feel about PS4 B/C when the time comes as, right now, I feel as though I really couldn't care about it.

Personal Update:
I'm into the last few chapters of Atlas Shrugged. I've enjoyed it immensely. Can't kick this XCOM addiction T.T, I just want to keep playing it. It's good to have a game enrapture me again :) Also playing through FFIV. Yeah, trying to see if I can finish it again. Kinda looking forward to Hitman, but I don't know when I'll be able to get it now :/

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Knightzane
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 3:51:57 AM
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I don't need backwards compatibility. I have my ps3 and just like my ps2 i'll hook it up when i feel the need to play a game from said console.

Played the wii u at a friends earlier today. I know there's some nintendo fans here so i won't get into it but... Waste-of-money. What the hells wrong with them? I can only imagine how its going to go from here. As for the games i've been playing, its been re6, left 4 dead2, dark souls fightclubs, and i started to play quantum conundrum. Its pretty fun so far. I have also started a hardcore run on dead space 2. Other than that, i play civilization V. I love my turn based strategy games. Shame that SE forgot what its like to make them.

Looking foward to hitman in 2 days. Hopefully it won't be 5 hours long. BLOPS2 made lots of monies and not much to show for it. Imagine if bethseda (ugh...) had that much money to make games with. You could guarantee they wouldn't be taking bribes and instead would be hard at work on games. Really wish skyrims story and major sidequests weren't so short. The narrative was terrible compaired to oblivion. I freaking loved oblivion.

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Snaaaake
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 4:11:00 AM
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I really never worried about B/C though, I have a family of Playstations in my home so if I wanna play FFIX then I just pop in my PS1, if I wanna play KHII then I just pop in my PS2.
That simple really.

As for my gaming week, well..........didn't have time for it, busy learning how to drive and learning bakery and stuff so it's been a dull week for me............

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Qubex
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 10:10:16 PM

Must have a lot of space Snaaaake... Do you keep them out on a desk, or do you pull them from the cupboard when needed?

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Highlander
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 6:05:09 AM
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Ben, You'll change your mind on BC in PS4. There's zero chance that Internet network latency will ever improve to the point where the controller latency on a cloud streamed game will rival that of a console. So, that dream of PS3 backwards compatibility via the cloud will remain a dream - and for some a pipe dream. And before someone pops up and says that they have some ungodly fast Internet connection, bandwidth is not the same as latency. Latency is going to happen regardless of the bandwidth.

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Beamboom
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 9:02:57 AM

Actually, I believe what you say here is so obviously correct that I can't help but thinking that they must have a different kind of solution in mind in regards to how to solve this.

A streaming service like you illustrate here, with the console being just an ultrathin client that basically is just displaying a streamed image while forwarding all the gamers actions to a server would not require a console at all, it could just as well have been your TV or a tablet for that matter.

I think what they might have planned is that it is *code* that is streamed to the console, with all the latency critical stuff like controller input and all that, being handled locally.

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Qubex
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 10:13:11 PM

A streaming service for B/C really doesn't make sense. I think we will see Ps3 game HD re-makes like we have seen from Ps2 games. It's the only way really.

However, if the rumours of the Ps4 are to be believed, I don't think the AMD A10 processor will cope with Cell code conversion on the fly. I don't know how they would make a Ps3 game work on an AMD chip based on a PC instruction set.

If HD remakes are a possibiliy, Sony could sell these games cheaply and eek out more cash from them.

You can imagine. They will sell Battlefield 3 Ps4 HD remake (with all DLC) for something like $19.99 in 3 years time.

They will grind through the Ps3 catalogue and remake the mos popular sellers and reap cash from these releases all over again...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Beamboom
Monday, November 19, 2012 @ 3:28:25 AM

Qubex, don't forget that a vast majority of PS3 games are multiplats and those are already running fine today on AMD and x86.

The streaming service will not be a free service, so Sony will earn money on the old titles regardless - I would assume probably even more than they would with a HD remake.

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Solid Fantasy
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 7:47:18 AM
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What's the big deal about b/c when you already own a PS3? It will probable only be a matter of a few cords difference between setting up the two. Am I the only own who sees this obvious solution? B/c is nice, but more of a bonus. I don't want the past generations hindering the next one.

PGU: RAGE is awesome! Only KZ2 and 3 have that badass punch to every round that you feel in RAGE. Now I remember why I was mesmerized by Quake way back in the day. Vita is also awesome! ACIII:L is splendid. The demo of Gravity Rush confirmed what my next vita purchase will be. Lumines is also in the future, maybe U:GA as well.

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Beamboom
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 8:44:57 AM

The deal for me is only that I don't want a bunch of consoles in our livingroom and all that follows with a bunch of different controllers and cable mess and so forth. I'd be willing to pay to avoid that.

But it's obviously a luxury problem.

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Jawknee
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 12:51:56 PM

RAGE could have been better. All flash and not much substance. It felt more like a tech demo than a full fledged retail game. It ended just as it felt like you where getting somewhere.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 1:20:42 PM

A lot of people need to sell their old consoles to afford a new one.

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Beamboom
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 1:21:01 PM

@Jawk; It's more flash than substance, I agree. But man, what flashes! :)

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T2X
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 9:06:26 AM
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Actually, If there is no BC, I'll still buy it. I just really like the franchises that SONY produces and I guess I could have two consoles hooked up (Ya know there are a few extra HDMI and Router ports open I suppose!) But, It'll be interesting for sure.

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homura
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 1:35:57 PM
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In the past, BC in PS4 is a must have for me, but now I don't care as long that it's powerful and not Pc achitecture.

As for the Whore Of The Orient, it still has a long way to go, so I'm just a little bit interested.

PGU:
I'm still playing Condemned 2, I'm on the Magic Man part, but not that much, an action RPG stole my interest from it. The story of the action RPG game is about a boy, accompanied by a fairy with some issues and can easily persuade with an apple pie, being warped into another realm while picking some flowers to give to his girlfriend for her birthday. Upon arriving in that realm they met a Shaman, and the journey begins to find a way back to their own realm while solving some conflicts along the way. Hehehe.

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homura
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 1:36:11 PM
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In the past, BC in PS4 is a must have for me, but now I don't care as long that it's powerful and not Pc achitecture.

As for the Whore Of The Orient, it still has a long way to go, so I'm just a little bit interested.

PGU:
I'm still playing Condemned 2, I'm on the Magic Man part, but not that much, an action RPG stole my interest from it. The story of the action RPG game is about a boy, accompanied by a fairy with some issues and can easily persuade with an apple pie, being warped into another realm while picking some flowers to give to his girlfriend for her birthday. Upon arriving in that realm they met a Shaman, and the journey begins to find a way back to their own realm while solving some conflicts along the way. Hehehe.

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bigrailer19
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 1:43:08 PM
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Domt care much about the B/C, I'm keeping my PS3 regardless.

PGU: I started CoD yesterday, watched the first cut-scene in the campaign then got an invite to play online. The mp is surprisingly better, I really like the multi-team mode, that's a blast. I like the ten point system, keeps the game honest. But the bugs and inconsistent servers are terrible right now. Froze on me twice and each time had to do a hdd restore, so that's annoying. But this is typical, and although not surprising, very annoying. So far no issues joining friends, other than an update coming out while I was playing and it wouldn't let us join cus I hadn't downloaded it.

Still playing NFS, that game is just too much fun.

I can't put AC3 down when I start. That game is just too good. It should he GoTY. The feel of RDR and AC make the game a blast with many ways to play. The story is really good. I'm not a fan of games that jump gaps in years an the previous AC's didn't implement it well because I always felt something was left out. But if it's tolerable in any game it's AC3. Great game.

...and still playing Borderlands 2 as well. Which is just awesome. Oh too many games to get through. Thank goodness for the winter break from school.



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CrusaderForever
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 2:51:40 PM

So true, so many great games! B2 is still in the back of my mind. Just have to make a conscious decision to take a break from D1P and play the backlog. Other than Ni No Kuni that is going to be my 2013 resolution.

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CrusaderForever
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 2:17:39 PM
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WotO sounds great and I am not surprised it's going to be like LA Noir. LA Noir is a great game and should be emulated.

I don't need the PS4 to have b/c. It would be nice but I don't want the price to be to high due to this feature being added. If I want to play my PS3 games I will do it with my PS3. I am not going to pay for a streaming service when I already own the games.

PGU:
Been having a blast with BOII and I must say it's the best CoD yet. They are having double experience weekend and I am level 28 already. Kill Confirmed is my new mode. I have always been a Domination fan but KC is amazingly fun!

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bigrailer19
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 2:24:24 PM

I played yesterday and wasn't getting double xp. You sure? Either way, I like the multi team mode, that's my new favorite.

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CrusaderForever
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 8:58:26 PM

Yes, definitely getting double XP. I was leveling up so fast and I am average at best. Always more deaths than kills. Also, I still haven't played Nuketown 2025 yet!!!! I am pissed, as I want to play it so bad. The random nature of the maps is broken. I have played Slums, Hijacked, Drone and a few others over 30 times a piece now. Acquaintance of mine was in a Nuketown 2025 map and I tried to join and it was full.

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Lord carlos
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 3:44:47 PM
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PGU:
RE6,Killzone hd & AC3
Really pi$$ing me off in AC3 that i cant just grab randow people and headbutt them or sneak up on a guard whose patrolling the rooftops and grab em,quick punch followed by a headbutt then throw his a$$ of the roof!
i used to leave streets filled with citizens rolling around in pain but wise to not pi$$ ezio off,Why take away good mechanics from games??
Can't wait for Hitman :)

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Teddie9
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 6:21:55 PM
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Great to know Team Bondi lives.

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