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What Classic Game Most Deserves A Remake?

Remakes or basic high-definition updates can be awfully popular, especially when a classic, even timeless title is involved.

So what game do you believe most deserves a modern upgrade? What game do you think would make that transition best, and would be the most popular among its die-hard fans?

To be honest, I still have to say it's Final Fantasy VII. But, there's a huge caveat to that belief, and it's this- I'd want it done a certain way. The game must remain intact from start to finish; if Square Enix wanted to toss in a few extra scenes here and there, fine. But don't subtract and for the love of Christ, don't touch the battle system. I remain on the fence about the addition of voice actors, although I suppose they'd have to be inevitable for a true modern remake.

Supposedly, we'll get Final Fantasy X HD at some point and I loved FFX, so I'd be all over that. But FFVII has this almost mystical aura surrounding it; perhaps it's partly due to a dozen years of that remake rumor circulating but whatever the reason, I'm pretty convinced a FFVII remake would be gigantic. But there are other candidates out there, don't you think? Is there another Final Fantasy you'd like to see remade? Or what about the original Metal Gear Solid? Maybe something a little less obvious, like Dino Crisis or Gauntlet or something?

1/11/2013 Ben Dutka

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Riku994
Friday, January 11, 2013 @ 10:27:18 PM
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I say Legend of Dragoon, but there would need to be a few small changes.

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ethird1
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 12:09:52 AM

Legend of Dragoon sequel would be cool as well.

End of Line.

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xenris
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 9:28:03 AM

What changes would you like Riku? The Legend of Dragoon is one of my faovurite RPGs. It was just so much fun and I actually loved the addition system. An HD remake or sequel would make me a happy panda.

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Riku994
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 10:10:21 AM

Even though I would never do this, I think Dart should be able to be taken out of the party, just to add a small amount of strategy to the game. The world map needs to be re-done a little bit (I know Ben agrees with me here), a few more side quests, and a NG+.

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laxpro2001
Monday, January 14, 2013 @ 9:30:15 AM

They also should make the dragoons have more of an impact... they were pretty inconsequential throughout the entire game.

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Siris86
Friday, January 11, 2013 @ 10:29:04 PM
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To me, it would be great to see a Mega Man X series remake. I'd love to see it's futuristic setting rendered in next-gen glory. Throw in a narrative of human-reploid relations, some fast city-scaling platforming (wall jumping and air-dashing through the skyliners!), and maybe some third person shooting mechanics and I think you would have a pretty awesome game on your hands.

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firesoul453
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 2:11:29 AM

I so agree with you! Mega Man X was amazing and I would love a brand new series following that style!

I guess they sorta remade it but still..

I would also love a remake of Donkey Kong 64 however microsoft ruined a chance of that happening....

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Knightzane
Friday, January 11, 2013 @ 10:47:53 PM
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Oh man, this is a toughie. im going to have to say FF6. I don't know why, but even though i've only played a few hours, for some reason i feel like its one of the greatest FF's. It has to be either FF6 or FFT (psp version.) Yeah... I had to think it over and those are my choices. I love how difficult FFT gets but i also love the setting and feeling of FF6. Oh, xenogears maybe as well. I dont know its hard haha

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Cloud X Blue
Friday, January 11, 2013 @ 10:54:50 PM
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My top ones would be legend of dragoon, final fantasy 7, earthbound or chrono trigger.

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Condemnedsoul23
Friday, January 11, 2013 @ 11:01:11 PM
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Final Fantasy 7 easily. Contra. Rygar

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Dukemz_UK
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 7:19:23 AM

They already made Rygar for PS2. It was so-so

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chilker
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 12:53:48 PM

I loved the PS2 Rygar. Did you know they remade THAT one for Wii? I heard they didn't really change anything except the main character, and they made him more anime-ish, instead of gritty. Perhaps they were trying to set him apart from God of War or something. I would love to play that game again. I totally forgot about it until you mentioned it here.

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Killa Tequilla
Friday, January 11, 2013 @ 11:08:37 PM
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It has to be Star Wars Battlefront I and II.

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Sunni_Boi
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 7:26:13 AM

Classics!

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Nas Is Like
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 1:07:51 PM

Nah, just finish Battlefront III and I'll be happy.

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Hynad
Friday, January 11, 2013 @ 11:17:23 PM
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Maniac Mansion !!!!

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Temjin001
Friday, January 11, 2013 @ 11:25:46 PM
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Xenogears would be very awesome. Storytelling wise I think it's got any of the PSX FF's of it's time beat without question. The game wants to be cinematic in story presentation but the hardware at the time just couldn't deliver as it could now.

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Crazy3001
Friday, January 11, 2013 @ 11:35:04 PM
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Definitely Socom II. Had so many good times with that game... It was the most popular shooter for ps2 at one time. Deserves an HD remake

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, January 11, 2013 @ 11:40:06 PM
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Chakan: The Forever Man.

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BikerSaint
Friday, January 11, 2013 @ 11:42:36 PM
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Fatale Frame

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Draguss
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 12:00:34 AM
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Couldn't say which one deserves it the most. The one I'd personally be butt-jumpingly happy about would be The Legend of Dragoon. Three generations, hundreds of games, and it's still my favorite.

Unfortunately, I'm fairly certain nobody at Sony even remembers it ever existed...

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BikerSaint
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 12:02:58 AM
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Deus Ex: The Conspiracy, plus the actual spiritual successor to the third game, called Project Snowblind.

(also add in DE:Invisible Wars for the PS3).

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Warrior Poet
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 12:06:41 AM
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If any game deserves a remake, it is not Final Fantasy VII. New hardware could make for more detailed graphics, but if you want the gameplay to be the same, then nothing will really be added to the experience. Its pre-rendered backgrounds and sequenced music are part of its aesthetic. That's how it was designed from the start. Replacing them with a real orchestra or new-school faux-anime models only takes away from it.

A game that 'needs' a remake is a game whose gameplay should be expanded. If it's being remade for its aesthetics, shouldn't that add something new? If you can only imitate the old way without adding anything, it shouldn't be remade in the first place.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 12:33:05 AM

Couldn't disagree with you more.

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Underdog15
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 2:30:56 AM

I disagree. I mod my PC version of FF7. Adding new music alone adds a completely new layer of depth to the experience. It sucks you in more, and it's more moving. The improved videos are a nice touch, as well as the improved backdrops with additional textures.

It definitely adds to the experience by a huge huge amount. Imagine what a proper remake would do...

Remember those FMV's in Dirge of Cerberus that showed all the characters? awesome.

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Vivi_Gamer
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 5:12:16 AM

I agree with Warrior, the atmosphere is made through the presentation of the pre-rendered backgrounds and the midi music. It would not be the same otherwise. Just look at the GC remake of Metal Gear Solid. Over the top cutscenes aside, it just didn't have the same atmosphere as the original even though it had better graphics and took the brilliant control scheme of MGS2. It just felt flat. I would hate for them to change a Final Fantasy I love like that.

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Underdog15
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 12:15:21 PM

While I disagree wholeheartedly, I can understand your opinion about pre-rendered backdrops. (Although, no reason that can't be done still. It's still done in some of today's games.)

But on midi music? Are you kidding me? I would take a well conducted orchestra for added depth any day. It's the same music. I spent a few hours replacing all the music files on my PC version with new music, and it's SO SO SO satisfying with the new music. I also found someone's updated SFX. Really nicely done.

Lastly, it technically wasn't midi music. Midi music is used in the original PC version, and it was crap. There's a weird psx version of midi that is much more advanced. That's what is used. If I find the official name for it, I'll re post here.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 12:46:56 PM

Since when was "one winged angel" midi music?

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ethird1
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 12:09:00 AM
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I think a proper sequel to Final Fantasy Tactics would be cool. I realize that all the loose ends was pretty much wound up and the story was rock solid, ending the story with really little to add on. But it could be done.

I would much rather play a fast moving FF7 mmorpg, myself. That or a complete remake of FF7 on a new system.

EXPLOOOOOOOOOSIONS!!!!!

End of Line.

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ryu
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 12:33:50 AM
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FF7, except make it so they fight like they did in the movie

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 12:49:31 AM

Dear God no.

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Teddie9
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 1:40:01 PM

Advent Children never did anything good for the franchise if you asked me. The only truly worthwhile addition was crisis core.

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Underdog15
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 8:39:03 PM

It should be noted the blu-ray version of Advent Children adds a ton of necessary content to it's story. Don't know why the DVD left it out.

As for adding to the story, I think it does a tremendous amount for Cloud.

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BTNwarrior
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 12:44:32 AM
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For the sake of back story I would say metal gear 1&2 because metal gear solid is still very playable yet unless you have a ps2 and MGS3 subsistence you don't really have any opportunity to play the older games.

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Solid Fantasy
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 6:25:38 AM

Ah ha! I see you beat me to it. Excellent point.

Metal Gear 2 really foreshadowed Metal Gear Solid, even though they were a whole generation or two apart.

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AcHiLLiA
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 2:16:34 PM

I heard Metal Gear 1 & 2 are in the Metal Gear Solid HD collection.

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Raze22
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 12:59:13 AM
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The Legend of Dragoon for sure, but if I had to pick something different.

Romancing SaGa 2 or Saga Frontier. The remake for romancing saga was well done (aka minstrel song).

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xenris
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 9:32:59 AM

Wow I thought I was the only person who played those Saga games. They were pretty cool from what I remember. I never finished either of them though.

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homura
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 12:59:40 AM
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Valkyrie Profile

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BigBoss4ever
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 1:38:03 AM
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Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross, no question asked.

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Snaaaake
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 1:53:41 AM
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Crash Bandicoot!!!!!

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JROD0823
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 2:51:39 AM
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The Legacy of Kain series. That's right, all 5 of them, lol.

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fatelementality
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 8:52:47 AM

Thank you.

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Solid Fantasy
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 2:52:50 AM
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After FFVII it would have to be Metal Gear one and two. Not unlike all of Kojima's, those old MSX titles were ahead of there time. A full blown remake based off of MG1+2 as close as possible would really complete the series. Playing the copies on Subsistance and hearing the minor background stories on MGS isn't enough.

Also the original 8 bit Legend of Zelda would be cool to see!

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Gordo
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 3:00:26 AM
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Leave the dead well alone in my opinion. Will get a few downvotes I'm sure but nothing holds up well to the rosy fingers of nostalgia.

The games of today are what they are due to decades of incremental improvements. Trying to go back to some arbitrary point in time to transport that gameplay wholesale to the future seems a little futile.

Like going to a school reunion and seeing your sweetheart as an old divorced mother of three. Some things are best left in the past.

Give me fresh ideas and the future any day instead of the ossified remnants of a simpler age.

I honestly can't think of a previous generation game that hasn't got a better current generation equivalent.
Can anyone?

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 10:53:53 AM

"I honestly can't think of a previous generation game that hasn't got a better current generation equivalent.
Can anyone?"

Um, yeah. Final Fantasy springs to mind.

I'm sorry, but the idea that all games in the past are inferior to all games today just because they were "simpler" is downright ludicrous.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 12:47:50 PM

Games today are a lot simpler, everything's automatic.

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Gordo
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 3:54:16 PM

Each to their own, but my opinion games are vastly better now than in previous generations. Would you honestly rather play FFVII than Skyrim, Fallout 3 or Mass Effect 3?

jRPGs have evolved this generation into wRPGs (as seen by the massive sales for wRPGs and the dwindling niche sales for jRPGs).

IMHO anyway!

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xenris
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 4:32:44 PM

If ff7 had never been released and popped up in its current form although with a couple of polished tweaks to it on steam I would pick it over those things you just mentioned.

World has a point, most games play themselves now.

I think FF7 has more content that each one of those games that you listed, it easily beats ME3 and Fallout 3, I haven't played skyrim so I couldnt tell you.

I think most games this generation are inferior. For example I beat super mario world on the SNES 3 times in the last month just for fun because it is that good to me. Trying to speed run it while getting 96* rating.

Anyway yeah just opinions though :D

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Hynad
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 3:01:50 AM
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I'd take a remake of FF VI over VII any day.

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Vivi_Gamer
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 5:06:52 AM

I am still hoping for a 3DS version of FFV & VI. or even a 2D sprite version to the quality of I, II & IV on the PSP. VI looks fine still but V really needs a make over, the menus look so chunky and old now.

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Hynad
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 10:34:31 AM

I'd bet those who downvoted me are people who started playing FF games with VII. Ha ha!

One thing's for sure, VI isn't plagued with retarded plotholes like VII is.

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Underdog15
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 12:22:46 PM

Well, I started on NES, and I disagree. I didn't down vote you, but now I have. VI is good, but it isn't as great at all. I don't think you are remembering the SNES version very accurately. It seems like they fleshed out every character, but the didn't. They get into one character, then move onto another, essentially forgetting all about them. I still don't get why people think every character was the main character. Kefka was the main character, really. Everyone else, including Terra, are just extras. After you learn a little more about them... after they establish the characters, they ignore them for the rest of the game. Poorly written English translations, unlikely phrasing. A great example of how poorly done translations were? FENIX DOWN. Rly?! Never heard of a Phoenix before, Square translator man? Much older concept than video games, I assure you. lol

I like how in FFVI, the villain is based on the philosophy of Kafka (Hence the name Kefka). Makes for a very interesting take on what maddness is and the idea of true enlightenment. That was well done as a commentary on a certain philosophy. However, as a character, Sephiroth is better. He is both believable, frightening, and yeah... you REALLY hate him. Don't forget, much of the greater story of FFVII was written before the game was made and was fleshed out after it's release. He was a good guy. A friend of Zack's. And discoveries between him and other firsts (crisis core actually went ahead and decided who those firsts were in Angeal and Genesis) led him to be suspect of who he is and how he is so strong. Then a series of ill-timed events convinces him of something that is not true. The game doesn't describe the influence Jenova cells had on his mind when he came into contact with Jenova, unfortunately, hence the narrative conflicts or why things seem unexplained in the game, but that is the intended interpretation.

Anyways, I would like a VI remake for PSP, for example. Would be nice. But I was happy with the sprite upgrades to Anthology.

Lastly, Hynad, I resent your use of the word "retarded" as an insult. (Ben does it too, so it's hard to really get upset about it here... and he's supposed to be a professional writer.) And what do you mean by plot holes? Are you sure you aren't just referring to unexplained pieces of story or conflicts in the narrative? I don't think you know what the difference between a plot and a story is. There aren't really any plot holes, although there are conflicts in the narrative, most of which can be blamed on the translation.

Certainly, in FFVII, translation is to blame for a lot of character inconsistencies in dialogue. "Ok everyone.... let's mosey!" lmao

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 12:49:47 PM

Hynad: One thing is for sure, FFVII didn't have dialogue and a plot written by the PROGRAMMERS like it was in FFVI.

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Hynad
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 12:50:15 PM

I've had my share of debates about FF VII through the years. Getting into yet an other one, with someone who is directly insulting me, isn't going to happen again.

If you haven't heard of the plot holes in FF VII (that's taking the original game only, not the revisionist sequels and prequels) after all those years spent on the internet, then I really feel sorry for you.

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Hynad
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 1:00:22 PM

@Ben, funny you'd mention that. Considering those PROGRAMMERS managed to write a more consistent and coherent story than those who penned VII.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 1:04:00 PM

That's really easy to do when the story is about 1/10th as complex.

I'm well aware of the plot holes in FFVII. I'm well aware that EVERY SINGLE GAME in those days had massive plot holes because we really didn't have professional writers involved in the industry. But at least FFVII aspired to a LOT more than the banal, cliched, and utterly predictable story with dialogue an 8-year-old would write that we find in FFVI.

And if you're honestly basing the entire judgment of both games on story alone, than you really shouldn't be acting all high and mighty.

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Hynad
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 1:18:46 PM

It's really funny how if one doesn't think like the mass here, he gets condemned and frowned upon by some of the regulars.

News flash Ben. FF VII had the same premise as VI. With an added pseudo ecologist message thrown in. And indeed, the convenient "I was lying all along" plot point. Like the "waking up to realize one was just dreaming" one that every literature teachers tell their students to steer clear of as much as possible...

The only part of the story that really stands out as an achievement is Aeris's fate. For that, bravo Squaresoft!

As for the "immature writing" you mention when talking about VI, I think it's funny of you to dismiss the game on this account. Indeed, I realize that around here, FF VII is serious business. FF VI didn't include censored curse words after all... !*&?#$#@ that &*$? pizza!
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And really... FF VII? Complex? Convoluted, ok. But complex?

It's only complex because it's badly told.

[EDIT:] Back then, when the game stood on its own and didn't have sequels and prequels to mess things up, the game was open ended and liked in part for that reason. Did the humans survived at the end? Did the planet make the choice to use them to heal itself? Buggenhagen hinted at that possibility and it was nice to come up with your own conclusions...

Back then, the story appeared to have a deeper meaning. But when you play the game now, with the way they milked it, everything that was remotely "complex" about it is ruined.

In the end, preferences are subjective. I prefer VI over VII. For various reasons. There's no point in trying to convince each other that the right answer is the game we favour. I could explain the reasons why VII failed to me, but that wouldn't make you change your mind. You'd still condemn me for not praising something you worship.

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Hynad
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 1:47:34 PM

For all intent and purposes, I'm all for a FF VII remake. Even if I'd take a remake of VI over it any day.

Problem is, they would have to fix and clean the writing while making sure the game can stand on its own the same way the original did.

Sequels and prequels to it released so far being optional in a "fanfic" kind of way. Because as far as I'm concerned, that's what they are. Fanfics, and "what if" stories.

The original didn't need sequels or prequels. It needed better writing, while keeping its open-ended nature.

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Geobaldi
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 12:45:43 AM

I'm with you Hynad. FF VI is still the best FF game of them all in my opinion, and the only one I play every year at least once.

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Bevel
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 1:01:09 PM

"-at least FFVII aspired to a LOT more than the banal, cliched, and utterly predictable story with dialogue an 8-year-old would write that we find in FFVI."

Ben this is 4chan level childishness. If someone likes FFVI more than FFVII then that's fine isn't it?

Final Fantasy VI is a well loved title in the series and I think the opera scene would look great in modern 3D. Please don't lower the level of the conversation by resorting to attacks.

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Underdog15
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 8:50:07 PM

It's amusing to me Hynad thinks I insulted him. If I wanted to insult you, it would have been much more direct. I was being honest and fair in saying I don't think you know what a plot hole is compared to narrative gaps in "story". One of my majors is in Theatre Arts. I'm not just saying shit off the top of my head. There's a massive massive difference.

Without going into a tailspin explanation, all I'll say is that plot holes force the narrative to reach the ending without cause in many ways. FFVII does not do that. It constantly stays the course.

Narrative holes are in passing dialogue that might contradict itself in explanation, only. But it does not alter the course of the plot. FFVII admittedly does that, as I said before, mostly through poorly translated and insufficiently built on ideas. A lot of stuff gets missed in translation. Remarkably so. Those are related to "Story". Not plot.

The fact that future installments can seal up narrative holes is proof the plot was not hurt. Plot, in essence, is sequence of cause-and-effect events that are guided by the story. A narrative is a part of the story, but it is not the same as the plot. You can have holes in one, but not the other. Plot is, in essence, the foundation of a production. A table of contents, if you will. (Although much more than that.) People confuse plot holes with narrative miscues all the time.

Me pointing that out isn't a shot at you. It's an objective point that holds water in proving FFVII does not have plot holes.

I'm well aware of the errors made in the narrative. Please don't feel sorry for me. I'm both extremely familiar with the title in question (beat it every 2 years since release, have read all the literary translations available on the web, seen the movies and short films, and played all sequels/prequel) and well educated in how to break down a visual presentation.

I was not intending to insult you. The whole reason I said, "Most people make that mistake" was a way to buffer your inevitable feelings that come with making such an error in a public forum.

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Underdog15
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 9:33:37 PM

Come to think of it... Didn't Hynad get all pissy with me like... a really long time ago... I kind of remember the name now... dude must have had it out for me forever... talk about a grudge!

Otherwise, Hynad... buddy. Why do you think I'm coming after you? I didn't even DO anything this time. lol

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Bevel
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 10:40:23 PM

Considering that Final Fantasy is character driven characters actions necessarily drive the plot. This means that a plot-hole is much more likely to be a poorly motivated action by a character. If a character does something that doesn't make sense from the perspective of that character and serves only to move the plot forward, it might just be called bad writing, but it's the character-driven equivalent to a plot hole.

I see one such plot hole in FF:VII as Sephiroth's sudden about-face to evil after he learns that the source of his power is Jenova cells. It would have been more plausible had it been made clear that Sephiroth was being manipulated directly by Jenova without knowing it, but he consciously chose to throw away his friends and career in order to join jenova.
It's a trope in many anime where the character learns that their destiny was fated somehow, or predetermined, by events beyond their control and subsiquently loses the motivation to 'fight the good fight'. It seems clear to me that this is what the writers of FF:VII intended since so much of the rest of the cast follow anime tropes.

There is a clear lack of motivation for sephiroth to turn evil, barring the direct control of Jenova cells, and the whole scene in the library where Sephiroth learns his history directly contradicts the idea that he's being controlled.

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Underdog15
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 10:46:55 PM

Oh, I agree Bevel. They really rushed that part of the story. All you see in the memory flashback in Kalm is Cloud sleeping away on a bed waiting as time goes on, and you see Sephy freak out at the idea of a monster. I get what they were doing (as do you, I assume), but that's only thanks to hindsight. The didn't really do a good job of it. (Rushed maybe? idk...)

That isn't a plot hole, but who cares what it is, really. We know there's a hole in how it's explained to us. (that's narrative) But again, we all know there's a hole or unexplained thing or whatever. (We are honestly just arguing semantics now) The only reason I hate people calling it a plot hole, is because when talking to people who think video games are not art or a joke or something for kids... it bugs me when people tell them it's full of plot holes when that's not quite true. But I admit, that's just an issue I should get over. haha

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Bevel
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 10:55:04 PM

The villains in Final Fantasy have never had good motivation. I think the reason people find Kefka so compelling is because he doesn't need a complex motivation, he's one of those people like the Joker who just prefers chaos to order. Even if such a person is unrealistic, we've all met someone whose motives seem alien to us, and we can accept that a person like that could exist.

Final Fantasy is about light warriors fighting evil and it doesn't need to be complicated. I think the only thing dragging Final Fantasy:VIIs story down is that they tried to add nuance where it wasn't necessary.

I think video games are an art form, anyone who argues otherwise has to explain how all the actual art, music, writing and acting that go in to games are invalid.

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Underdog15
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 11:12:53 PM

I encourage you to look up how the philosophy of Kafka applies to the character Kefka. In short, the philosophy implies that people who are "mad" or crazy, are actually the truly enlightened. In application to Kefka, it suggest that as the only magic-from-birth wielding human, he was "enlightened". This "enlightenment" that no other could possibly comprehend is what drove him to madness. His inability to control the enlightenment he has drives him to crave destruction.

lol that doesn't explain it very fully. There are very long critiques out there of that philosophy and it's application to Kefka. It's quite ingenious, and part of the reason I think kefka is actually the TRUE main character of FFVI.


EDIT: FYI, there's a very fun read of a book called "Philosophy of Final Fantasy". A lot of it is silly, but it's still fun to read. But the Kefka thing is explained in full, and is very good. Each chapter is written by a different person. Most of it's authors are extremely well educated people (ph.d.'s, for example). Well worth the read!!

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sawao_yamanaka
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 3:13:44 AM
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The Bouncer

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Vivi_Gamer
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 5:05:32 AM

Or even make a sequel and this time let the story mode have a co-op option. I swear if the game had that originally it would have been far more successful.

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Clamedeus
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 6:15:24 PM

I remember that game. :D

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mk ultra
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 3:23:41 AM
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Road Rash

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PSN French
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 3:38:54 AM
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Sierra's Quest for Glory (was PC only)... I think the entire series would be amazing with modern RPG elements.

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___________
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 3:48:01 AM
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crash bandicoot!
said it once, twice, a billion times and ill say it again.
remake the first 5 games, 1,2,3,CTR, and bash in glorious HD and ill be set for life dont need nothing else!
made me sh*t my pants and scream like a school girl when i saw the original was being remade in cry engine 3.
than saw it canceled, and cried like a school girl for weeks!
:(

spyro would be nice too, would suit the more advanced technology quite well due to its more open wide nature.
the looney tunes games would be nice too, only reason ive kept my PSP is so i can play bugs and taz time busters whenever im out.
pandemonium would be nice too.
makes me wonder what a new game would be like.
id be a dream come true if crystal decided to go back once the tomb raider reboot was completed.
oh and GEX, cant forget that lovable lizard!
O, and ape escape.
subsequently speaking what the hells happening with that!?
$ony actually annonced 2 new ape escape games at E3 a few years ago.
one was the crappy move game which released, but they announced a proper full fledged sequel.
wonder what ever happened to that.
hopefully it was put on the back burner as a ps4 launch title.......

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Mog
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 3:57:31 AM
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No ff8 love from anybody? No? Ok I'll be on my way.

-_-

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Vivi_Gamer
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 4:54:54 AM

I played Final Fantasy VIII recently, it's just as good as it was over 10 years ago. I remember when the FFVIII tech demo was shown for the PS2, the remake craze we now have for VII was brought up for VIII and I still felt no need for it.

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Underdog15
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 12:15:53 PM

The hype for a PS2 remake is nothing near the size of the call for the FFVII remake. Not even close.

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Vivi_Gamer
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 5:04:37 AM
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I think most people approach remakes the wrong way, they look back at so many titles from the past they love and want them remade. While I find most of the games I love like Final Fantasy's and Metal Gear to be perfect the way they are and I still go back to them.

I look upon the process of a remake to see what game wasn't such a success first time around and could turn out better with the opportunity or something which is terribly dated and I dont just mean graphics. I personally thing the PS1 series 'Fear Effect' would be a good one to bring back and continue, originally there was going to be a third one but it was cut early in production. The game runs on FMV's all the way through but it looks pretty bad by todays standards, thought it did offer a strong cinematic experience. The game also had nasty tank controls, I don't usually mind them in older games, but it was notably slow for this game. With a remake they could enhance the lovely cyber-punk world they created and really make it into something... just no QTE's please :P

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Underdog15
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 12:34:28 PM

No one wants a remake of a shitty game. And no developer wants to remake a game that sold badly.

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Gordo
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 4:16:03 PM

Have been playing Fear Effect 2 on the Vita. Tank controls are annoying as are the lack of save points and obscure puzzles (think gamers can't do puzzles like the old days) but the FMV graphics, story and sexy adult themes are enjoyable.

I think we are missing adult games with a dark edge this generation.

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fatelementality
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 8:53:49 AM
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Anyone up for a remake of the Descent series?

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Geobaldi
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 1:38:49 AM

May want to look at Miner Wars 2081. That's probably as close as we'll get for the time being.

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xenris
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 9:37:44 AM
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There are a couple games that I think need sequels more than remakes. One series someone mention above that I adore is the Legacy of Kain series. Seriously it had awesome writing, great gameplay and amazing atmosphere. Plus it ended on a cliff hanger >.<

But remake wise I would like The legend of Dragoon, or Tenchu 2. If they remade tenchu 2 with remastered controls like they had in Tenchu 3: wrath of heaven I would be in heaven....no pun intended.

So I would have to say Tenchu 2 remade on a current engine with the controls of Tenchu 3 :) That would be the shizam.

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Underdog15
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 12:35:48 PM
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FFVII is the clear choice for FF fans. Everyone else who disagrees are the types of people who enjoy being the 5% that love to disagree for the sake of feeling different or that they've achieved some form of gaming enlightenment the masses are incapable of understanding.

Exceptions, of course, to the people that would still like an FFVII remake alright, but might prefer another FF that they favor more highly for personal reasons.

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Hynad
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 1:02:48 PM

What a closed minded way to look at this.

As if nobody is allowed to NOT masturbate to VII. ¬_¬



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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 1:05:15 PM

Hynad: For someone who doesn't want to start an argument about FFVII vs. FFVI, you sure have a strange way of immediately going after anyone who disagrees with you.

P.S. And don't pretend to be all insulted after saying everyone who downvoted you started playing games with FFVII. I didn't. And I seriously doubt anyone else here did, either.

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Hynad
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 1:20:10 PM

Well, downvoting me because I think differently than you... That's something as well, right?

Sorry, sorry... I'll go masturbate to VII so I can be a part of the accepted group.

-__-

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Knightzane
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 3:45:06 PM

Im an FF fan and 7 was never my favorite. FF9 was. I played ff7 and sure, it was good. FF9 stuck with me though. Im also one of those people who thinks Sephiroth is an overrated mammas boy. Yep, down vote me because i said it. Kefka alone makes Sephi look like a vandal.

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Hynad
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 4:04:43 PM

@Knightzane: Careful. People will say that you're probably not mature enough to appreciate the writing quality of someone who have a mind older than 8 years old.

I know, that's quite the argument there. But what can I say. -__-

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xenris
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 6:26:13 PM

I do think a lot of peoples first Final Fantasy was 7 which is why we have a lot of people who jerk off to it. In fact it was the first one I played other than trying out one of them on the SNES at a friends house when I was too young to really enjoy it.

That being said even though it was my first it was NOT my favourite. Final Fantasy 9 is the best in the series in my OPINION, both in gameplay, story and graphics.

I think it is a little closed minded as well for underdog to say that the only reason you would not say FF7 is the best is if you are trying to stand out or be different.

It's like people who say I only hate CoD for the sake of hating it, or that I'm on some sort of bandwagon. Its counter intuitive to a discussion and makes it so someone who does have a different opinion is always wrong. They are either being defensive, a "hipster" or something else.

Personally I think out of the PSX final fantasy 7 is the weakest, then 8 then 9. But you can't argue opinions, I'm not going to tell you your stupid because you don't like the same final fantasy I do. But that is kind of what underdog is saying. Now he might have been trolling for fun, but if he is serious good lord, there are a lot of people who don't like FF7 for legitimate reasons.

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Clamedeus
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 6:41:06 PM

That was definitely the case for me Xenris (except the jerking off part). When I was buying a PS1 game at the store back then, I was looking for an RPG game, and back then I did not know of FF at the time, so I seen FF7 on the shelf, this was around christmas so I got that game I enjoyed it and it got me into the other games as well. But it definitely wasn't my favorite, it's just memories of it really.

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Hynad
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 7:21:35 PM

Funny shit:

Underdog15 Thursday, April 14, 2011 @ 1:57:34PM

"Sweet. I loved this game. Excellent story and tremendous artistry into the setting, symbolisms, music, and more.

This is a game that was held back by the tech of the time. There is so much wealth of ingenuity that went into the story and artistry of this.

I hope it comes to NA. It's a must buy for me if it does.

I actually understand exactly why people value this game over FFVII. I don't necessarilly agree, especially now that FFVII has a much fuller story to the whole collection, but I do understand where people are coming from."

Yeah. Who said anything about the need to feel different? Seems like you're one who just argues for arguing sake.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 10:03:12 PM

Hynad, let me educate you on a few things:

First, you have no idea who down-voted you. So accusing others of doing it is dumb because you can't possibly know. For the record, I never vote on anyone's posts.

Second, you're the only one insulting everyone else by assuming you're getting "jumped on" for liking FFVI more than FFVII. Nobody did any such thing. Anybody who responded to you did so in a civil, detailed fashion. I said the programmers wrote the script for FFVI because they did; it wasn't a personal insult. And yet, you're running around pretending you're being persecuted against, when the only reason people are getting annoyed is because you're acting like a DICK to them.

Third, I know writing. I know plot creation and character development. I dare say I know it a great deal better than you, although I can't guarantee that as I don't know you. Let's just say my experience in such disciplines is usually more than others because it's both a passion and a moderate talent of mine.

Therefore, I can say without any shadow of a doubt, OPINION ASIDE, that your assessment of FFVII's story is biased bullsh**. You're not giving it any credit for anything while at the same time trying to convince yourself that the amateur story told in FFVI is somehow superior because...well, just because it's simpler and something about milking or some such crap, as if FFVII had anything to do with "milking."

FFVII had plot holes. I admitted that as did just about everyone else. What it attempted, on the other hand, is to tell a story that reaches a lot further than that of the plot in FFVI, which was rudimentary at best. It screwed up in some ways. We get that. But the writers aspired to a great deal more, whether you like it or not. And you have yet to address a single gameplay point in your arguments and last I checked, gameplay remains the primary factor in this hobby of interactive entertainment. I'd just LOVE to hear how the gameplay in FFVI was better than that of FFVII. Although I wouldn't advise it, because me coming back with the diversity of Materia combined with a number of other elements would make you look rather silly.

Take everything into account that one would for a review. Doing so makes a comparison between FFVI and FFVII laughable and even the DEVELOPERS will say this. But of course, you know more than them, more than us, and you're just being persecuted against because you don't agree with us. No, it's not that you don't agree, it's that you sound like a complete ass when you disagree, and what you're saying ISN'T subjective. You're analyzing a story. And doing a really, really piss-poor job of it on both fronts because you're obviously predisposed to hating FFVII.

I'm done here.

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Hynad
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 10:31:34 PM

"Doing so makes a comparison between FFVI and FFVII laughable and even the DEVELOPERS will say this. But of course, you know more than them"

Funny how you say that I pretend to know more than them, although I never once even remotely implied that, while putting words into their mouths the sentence just before.

I currently am on my way out and can't give you a longer reply for now. But let me just point out that you're trying really bad to make your opinion as fact. And you find the nerves to call ME biased in the process. That's quite rich.

You're overly sensitive and defensive when people don't see eye to eye with you. You reply in really bad ad hominem manners to anyone who doesn't agree with you views. I've getten used to it a little overtime, but as you grow older, I would think you'd accept people won't always share your views on everything. And that they're not any more wrong for it.

But sure! It's all my fault. It's easier for you to think that anyway. ^^,

Interestingly enough, I never once said or implied that I hate FF VII.

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xenris
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 10:33:46 AM

Can we just agree that we all have different favourite final fantasy games and that someone isn't a retard idiot for having a different favourite than yours?

Also on a side note, Ben, Underdog kind of started this. If saying that people who don't think FF7 is the best in the series are essentially pretentious, or hipsters or whatever ISNT in some way trying to spark an argument I don't know what is. And while personally it didn't insult me, very little does, it is an insulting statement and I can see how that would insult people.

I honestly didn't see Hynad being a dick at all especially in this thread. He simply replied to underdogs closed minded, semi insulting statement that may or may not have been directed at him. Nothing he said was him being a dick, he only disagreed with the people saying FF7 was best. Likewise saying that a complex story with bad dialogue is objectively worse is kind of lame. Because some people actually LIKE simple stories about knights saving princesses or what have you.

Its sad because you are all gamers and JRPG fans, having a pissing contest on which Final Fantasy is best. It's like arguing that the colour red is better than the colour green and your stupid for thinking otherwise.

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Underdog15
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 8:53:56 PM

lol well, now that we know what kind of person Hynad is. lol!

And yes, Hynad... downvoting because you disagree with someone is exactly what the button is for. If you guide your mouse over it, it says, "disagree". :p

Also, not sure what you're proving there. You are reinforcing the things I've said. You should also quote me when I said this: (In this thread in the same one you replied to, by the way.)

"Exceptions, of course, to the people that would still like an FFVII remake alright, but might prefer another FF that they favor more highly for personal reasons."

Fortunately for me, I'm incredibly consistent in the things I say.

lmao

@Xenris
Please don't accuse me of things that are not true. Not once did I say everyone should like the same FF as me the most. Not once. In fact, if you look at what I said in this thread and even in the post Hynad quoted, I regularly point out that people may prefer another one. What I said is that true FF fans would want an FFVII remake. In the very same breath, I said they might prefer another one. But that shouldn't change the fact that true FF fans would still be happy with a VII remake.

Take me for example... I would prefer an FFVII remake above all. (obviously) yet, I'm still excited at the idea of an FFX remastering. i would also be happy to get any other FF, including VI, which I have, as Hynad graciously pointed out in a failed attempt to be a very mean and nasty person, observed that i can understand what people see in it.

If Hynad had dug more, he would have found many other occasions I have praised FFVI. I remember a long time ago fervently defending the game, writing (surprise surprise) long-winded explanations of each character's ties to professionally studied philosophies including that of Kafka (which the character Kefka is based on). How many "fans" knew that? :p

I do kind of resent what you say in your post because it isn't true at all. Please re-read what I've said without whatever tint is in your glasses, Xenris. I've been reasonable, objective, well spoken, opinionated (of course), and fair. Above all else.... very very fair. I also didn't directly insult anyone on purpose. And I think that's clear. I re-read everything I said just to be sure, and I can honestly find nothing that would have offended me.

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Underdog15
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 9:13:14 PM

But yeah... not sure where I got nasty here. Quotes please?

Where did all those masturbation comments come from? 0.o

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xenris
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 9:35:09 PM

"Everyone else who disagrees are the types of people who enjoy being the 5% that love to disagree for the sake of feeling different or that they've achieved some form of gaming enlightenment the masses are incapable of understanding."

How is that sentence to be interpreted?

You say in the sentence that people who disagree are only doing so because they like to disagree just for the sake of disagreeing(which is the stupidest statement I consistently see on the internet), or that they think they are enlightened, which sounds like you calling those people pretentious.

Then right after that you say the Exceptions being people who who like another FF remake for more personal reason....the two paragraphs seem to contradict each other, you should have chosen better wording.

You have nothing to resent, I hardly said anything about you, only that your comment in this reply chain is argumentative, which in my opinion it is.

My post was merely saying that everyone is allowed to have their own favourite Final Fantasy and neither is better than the other. It is ALL subjective.





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Underdog15
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 9:37:04 PM

P.s. Hynad... you realize based on one of your posts a little earlier here... you fit into that "exceptions" category I mentioned, right? That is, if you are being honest. You shouldn't expect people to be mean to you. If what you say is true, and that you really would like a FF7 remake, but just that you prefer FF6 better, then you are indeed that exception and are not at all the brunt of my observation....

But thanks for being so mean about it. :)

@Xenris
It's meant to be interpreted exactly as it is written in context with the rest of the message, of course. Yes. I do believe that people who simply say "don't do it"... well... if they don't want it... why do they care, you know? I can understand a fear for how SE might handle it. Heck, I have the same fear. But FFVII was amazing. And to perfect what it originally tried to achieve given the tech at the time... well, it would be awesome. Tie that in with the fact it could be a potential good investment for SE... I say why not?

I've never heard a single good reason, other than the original is good enough. Well... based on what I saw in the PS3 tech demo... I would love that. lol. So yeah. why not want it? And when SE posts things on twitter asking if people would want one and their site crashes... I get a little more excited about it.

And quite frankly... no. I don't understand how any FF fan would not love to play a remake. BUT, I do understand why they would want a different one, too. What is unfair about that?

And no. I still don't think such an honest observation not directed at anyone should be insulting. And no, I don't think I was offensive. ESPECIALLY prior to that post, which is where I was met with most of the hostility. -AND- I still don't get why Hynad quoted me for any other purpose than to prove my own consistency.

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Bevel
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 9:43:54 PM

"I can honestly find nothing that would have offended me."

The part which Xenris is probably referring to is the part where you say that:

"Everyone else who disagrees are the types of people who enjoy being the 5% that love to disagree for the sake of feeling different or that they've achieved some form of gaming enlightenment the masses are incapable of understanding."

In short, you're saying that anyone who wouldn't rather see FFVII remade is a conceited hipster. If you are trying to tell us that you wouldn't find it insulting to have your views patronized as attention-seeking behavior then you're lying.


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xenris
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 9:50:45 PM

Nice ninja edits underdog ;)

Why are you bringing SE into this? This isn't about financing or anything like that, this is just a hypothetical what remake would you like more and you tried to say that to the true fans of final fantasy FF7 is the obvious choice otherwise your a conceited hipsters, as Bevel so eloquently put it.

As for why not want it? Well, I personally like FF9 the most, and would love to see that game come to life with better graphics and voice acting. FF9 sold well enough for it not to be a huge risk and it is one I would personally rather see remade. I would of course play an HD FF7 but that isn't the one I would want to see remade.

See I can edit too.



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Underdog15
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 10:16:45 PM

Bevel, if you want a different FF remade, that's hunky-dory. Honestly, I do not understand why that is insulting. I genuinely don't see why people are -against- remaking FF7. I can see wanting something different. I can see people not thinking it's a priority. I do not understand the thinking that says "Please dear god don't make *insertgamehere*"

Why is that so hard to understand? You don't see me going around to fans of other games or genres who want a sequel or whatever game going, "no dear lord don't make that game all these people want!"

It's just so strange to me. So yeah, I stand by what I say.

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Underdog15
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 10:22:57 PM

@Xenris
Edit button is there for a reason. :p

Nothing wrong with that. FFIX is a fine game. I still remember how impressed people were with seeing Zidane's breath in cold weather. lol I actually liked him much better than Squall and Cloud. lol he could be a buddy of mine. The other two... not so much. haha

And yes. For FF fans, as World said earlier, FFVII is the obvious choice. But for more reasons than personal preference. And as I said, those personal preferences are good justifications for those that disagree. But when you weigh all the reasons, I do believe FFVII is the right choice... and yes... those reasons include it's reception as I said, and World said.

Again, what I said has merit. And deep down, I think you know it to be the best choice, even if you would prefer FFIX. And yes, reasons include those outside artistic notion. So bringing SE into the discussion has merit. Not about which one is best artistically, sure. But certainly as to which one makes the most sense to redo.

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Underdog15
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 10:26:14 PM

Here's the post by World I'm referring to:

"FFVII is the better choice over VI because it has a larger appeal and fanbase to support what would be an immensely expensive development process.

It couldn't move CoD numbers but ironically it would easily outsell all 3 FFXIII games across both consoles even if it was PS exclusive. "


This is a valid point worth considering. So yes. Bringing SE into the debate makes sense. As for personal preferences for which FF they would ENJOY the most? I never once criticized that.

EDIT: (put that in there for Xenris ;p) Does no one else see how awesome that was the Hynad quoted me? I'm just tickled about it. had to say it again. lol

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Bevel
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 10:26:20 PM

I don't disagree with you. I think it would be crazy for fans to petition SE not to make a FF:VII remake too.

I was just addressing the wording in your earlier post which was diminutive towards people who disagree with you. Subsequently you said you didn't see how your post could be viewed as insulting by those people who disagree, and I pointed out your hypocrisy.

To be honest the more remakes of Final Fantasies the better. I don't much care for Lightning.

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xenris
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 10:45:18 PM

Alright, but deep down I don't see FF7 as the obvious choice.

Even if this was something I personally had a choice over and square enix said Xenris pick an FF to remake I would go with FF9. While FF7 might have more wide appeal because it taps into the emo amnesia filled lone soldier boy within us all(thats a joke don't take is seriously), I still think FF9 would make a better remake.


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Underdog15
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 10:57:00 PM

No hypocricy there, Bevel... But who cares. Point is, I've made it obvious insult was not intended, and I've made it clear where my point of view comes from. It's not contradictory, nor is it hypocrisy. It only seems that way because you don't quite get what I'm trying to say and because people incorrectly presumed I meant them. Not a single person in this entire thread was pointed out. EVERYONE here has said they would be ok with a remake, but might prefer a different one. Which is exactly what I said I'm ok with in the very first post. If people want to pick at a small portion of the whole picture, that's their own fault for finding insult. Most of this thread I find myself typing while grinning wryly with a bit of a chuckle. lol

@Xenris
That's fine about FFIX being a better remake, in your opinion. You likely have very good personal reasons, attachments, etc to justify that. You said FFVII had more widespread appeal, and that's a very good reason as to why it might be a choice worth considering.

Also, I'm not insulted by the emo thing. lol There's actually some truth to it. haha. Most people have a darker side they are depressed about and constantly feel like retreating away from. At least at some point in their lives. :p (There's an educated argument for almost anything, you know. haha!)

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Nas Is Like
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 1:08:28 PM
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I still say Final Fantasy VII. One of the few games I absolutely fell in love with on every level. The music, characters, storyline, combat system, etc. Everything was superb and top notch.

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ulsterscot
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 1:28:31 PM
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The C64 classic - Commando - freakin loved that game.

Gauntlet is another C64 classic - I think it was Konami

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Teddie9
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 1:40:47 PM
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FF 6 or 7.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 2:02:15 PM
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FFVII is the better choice over VI because it has a larger appeal and fanbase to support what would be an immensely expensive development process.

It couldn't move CoD numbers but ironically it would easily outsell all 3 FFXIII games across both consoles even if it was PS exclusive.

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Wrote
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 3:40:18 PM
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Dragon quest 8 because my PS2 isn't working and dq8 would look glorious in ps3. And even though it just came out, I want a xenoblade chronicles HD on wii u sometime. The game looked awesome but was limited by the wii.

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RICHIECOQUI
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 4:45:59 PM
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Parasite Eve I always like this game!!

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washapdude
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 6:05:03 PM
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Crash Bandicoot 1,2, and 3. I miss old Crash games...

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Clamedeus
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 6:25:58 PM
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Would Bushido Blade be considered Classic? I'm not really sure. But that is one game that I would love a remake or a brand new game of on PS3, or next-gen consoles.

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xenris
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 6:27:02 PM

Man another gem that people hardly played! I remember playing this for hours at sleep overs when I was a youngin. I still have my copy... :D

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Clamedeus
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 6:32:09 PM

I have mine somewhere as well. Bushido Blade was awesome, me and my friends and brothers used to have tournaments all the time when we played it. The stage would be on top of a Japanese rooftop I don't remember the name of the stage though, I loved that stage. :D

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xenris
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 6:46:50 PM

Yeah we had tournaments too. I remember having crazy comebacks. I would be gimped and on one knee and just lunge and get a headshot >.<

I would love for a next gen version that had no health bars and played the same. 15$ download would be nice.

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Clamedeus
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 7:07:26 PM

Lol I remember those moments when playing Bushido Blade with friends, great times though.

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Zeronoz
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 2:13:43 AM
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Radiata Stories!

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xenris
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 10:34:43 AM

I don't think it needs a remake...more like a sequel!!! I actually really loved Radiata Stories. But it is still a little new for a remake, maybe a quick HD upgrade would do. But I would like a sequel instead :D

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Clamedeus
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 3:38:27 PM

I have that game somewhere, I don't know where it is though. I didn't get to play much of it, but I did enjoy the amount of time I had playing it, I need to find it. :/

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WakkoWarner
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 11:42:32 AM
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Syphon Filter, Dino Crisis, Sly Cooper. Off topic, why have they not done a sequel to Heavenly Sword?? Fantastic game.

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Strythe
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 12:06:28 PM
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The Jet Moto series would be nice.

Crash Bash and Crash Team Racing as well. The Crash Nitro Kart and Tag Team entries weren't as good as the original CTR, that game is still the best Karting game I've ever played. Mod Nation is good fun, but CTR was and is everything a good kart racer should be.

And because it's mandatory that the TimeSplitters saga is mentioned, that game needs to have an HD collection come out. Maybe a fourth installment too.

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GamerO1
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 12:24:36 PM
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First of all I love the FF series, through FFX. However, there are so many, but here are a few I truly love:
Cosmic Fantasy 2
Shining Force I, II, & III
Lunar Series
Sword of Vermilion
Crusader Of Centy
BTW few people know of Cosmic Fantasy 2, but it was a TG16 game, and the game is Fantastic, as are all the mini-games.

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ransomink
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 12:48:12 PM
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Here are my picks:
-Xenogears (Favorite game; loved the battle system-2nd best system, awesome gears, and a deep story with religious beliefs mixed-in)

-Legend of Dragoon (An engaging battle system that keeps you alert and a decent story. Might need some tweaking though)

-Chrono Trigger (Hmpf, dunno what to say?)

-Grandia (Best battle system, imo, but they have done other entries. None for PS3 though)

-Final Fantasy VI (better characters-FFVII's characters are more memorable but I feel these characters actually portrayed their given roles better-and villain, Kefka is a true villain, nuff said-compared to FFVII, imo)

-Final Fantasy VII (Memorable story and characters, turning point in RPG and gaming bcause of 3d visuals but Square Enix would take 10 years to create a remake anyway)

p.s. I heard someone say Radiate Stories. Great game; personally had a lot of fun with it but I can't suggest a remake. Another was Valkyri Profile; They have done a few more entries of that game-only one for console platform, Valkyrie Profile: Silmeria-but the rest remain on handhelds.

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Underdog15
Monday, January 14, 2013 @ 10:32:58 AM

I loved xenogears too. If they did remake that one, they would have to not make disk two a summary. In reality, it's probably long enough to turn into a trilogy! Lol.

But yeah. I actually liked xenogears better than any other jrpg that gen. Phenomenal.

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GreenHornytoad
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 2:13:47 PM
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The online part of socom 2.

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trumpetmon65
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 5:45:40 PM
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Legacy of kain: soul reaver.

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Draven929
Monday, January 14, 2013 @ 4:32:14 AM
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There are tons of games that deserve a HD remake, and to me one that would be fun and fairly easy is the Road Rash series. I even went back and bought an old copy of Road Rash (the one that had Sound Garden, and from the PS One days) to play on my PS3.

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Draven929
Monday, January 14, 2013 @ 4:41:04 AM
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There are tons of games that deserve a HD remake, and to me one that would be fun and fairly easy is the Road Rash series. I even went back and bought an old copy of Road Rash (the one that had Sound Garden, Monster Magnet, and other great music as the soundtracks, and from the PS One days) to play on my PS3.

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Draven929
Monday, January 14, 2013 @ 4:50:39 AM
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There are tons of games that deserve a HD remake, and to me one that would be fun and fairly easy is the Road Rash series. I even went back and bought an old copy of Road Rash (the one that had Sound Garden, Monster Magnet, and other great music as the soundtracks, and from the PS One days) to play on my PS3.

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Boyo
Monday, January 14, 2013 @ 2:40:04 PM
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Nice one ulsterscot! Gauntlet and Commando were awesome!

I'm kind of disappointed that no-one mentions Impossible Mission. Now that was a game!! I seem to remember it making it to the top 10 of every-bodies list for years. I'm pretty sure it held the record for the amount of times it held onto the number 1 spot of all time greatest game? I wonder if it still does? I wonder if I dreamed all this?!!? I remember when the sequel came out and being sooo disappointed. I say that we should lobby Naughty Dog to do a remake of this!

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