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Ben's Week In Review: October 13

The PlayStation 4 is just over one month away. Doesn't seem possible, does it?

PlayStation as just a service...hmm...

The entire world wants to go digital, and anything physical will disappear in the wake of that ceaseless drive. Some like it; I hate it. But I think everyone can agree that it's basically inevitable where video games are concerned, as eventually, the primary method of delivery will indeed be digital. At that time, the "system wars" will likely be over and Sony and Microsoft may only have services, not game boxes. At least, that's what Tekken producer Katsuhiro Harada said: The future will be a contest of services. The competition will continue, of course, and I have no doubt that gaming will keep pressing forward and breaking through wall after wall. It'll be very interesting to see.

But it will be sad to see the dedicated game consoles disappear. Some could argue that they've already disappeared, that consoles like the PS4 and Xbox One are basically home entertainment hubs, anyway. And I suppose they're right. However, there was always something special about a console that only played video games, wasn't there? And there was something special about a game box, and the game itself, right? Yes, I know, nobody gives a sh**; they just call it sentimental BS and really, it never meant anything in the first place. Progress is progress and digital is more convenient and basically the same thing.

All right. Guess I just have to accept that.

Thief is probably my most anticipated next-gen title

Being a stealth lover, I have to say that the Thief reboot may top my next-gen priority list. Did you check out that awesome gameplay? I know a lot of old-school franchise fans have their reservations and I can understand that, but that really looks like the quintessential stealth adventure. I think the environment is a little too similar to Dishonored (kinda tired of the post-apocalyptic, plague-stricken motif) but otherwise, it looks very promising. I don't think it's true that stealth is dying; in fact, I think the fans of the niche genre have made their presence felt in the recent past. Dishonored, for instance, really did encourage a stealth approach, and Splinter Cell's wonderful return to form with Blacklist was widely praised.

It's just that the faster, dumber games are more popular and get more attention. Well, so what? That's the way it is in all entertainment venues because that's all the masses want. Doesn't mean fans of other types of entertainment don't exist; they're simply perpetually in the minority. And I prefer that, as I'm currently wearing a shirt that has one of Twain's absolute best quotes- "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect."

Personal gaming update

I'm going to go through Beyond: Two Souls again, to see how significantly I can alter the outcome(s). I'm sticking by my review, but I must reemphasize that it's a great game in its own right. If you loved Heavy Rain, I can't imagine you not enjoying Beyond. It's just that Quantic Dream tried to stretch the boundaries of their gameplay mechanic; it works just fine, but the more activity imposed upon the player and the less you let him do, the more he'll find it disconcerting. But the story is great, most of the acting is amazing, the dialogue is good, the cinematography is excellent, the character modeling is fantastic, etc. It just isn't as cohesively impressive as Heavy Rain, that's all. I'm disappointed but I'm not totally let down. It's not like Duke Nukem Forever, for crying out loud.

The games just keep coming. I know I have to find a way to deliver a FIFA 14 review and I'm debating reviewing the new F1 game. I just don't think that many PSXE readers care much about Formula One racing but I'll review it if enough people really want me to...

10/12/2013 Ben Dutka

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Comments (41 posts)

WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, October 12, 2013 @ 11:45:58 PM
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I'll be okay because I will always have my wonderful memories of consoles and boxes and movie store game rentals and instruction manuals and artwork. Got to admit though I was actually quite horrified to open the Beyond Two Souls box to find absolutely nothing inside but the disc. Usually to avoid customer shock they put an insert in there when the manual is digital.

So far my most anticipated might be Witcher 3 as I expect Persona 5 to be a late PS3 title and an RPG is about all that I can get stoked for now. inFamous looks great of course but without Cole it just won't be the same. Can't believe it's just a month either, I really do want a PS4 soon even though the launch stuff doesn't suit me.

Playing Beyond of course, I love what Cage has done, it's really an awesome experience. I plan to go back and finish Indigo Prophecy afterward then maybe replay Heavy Rain and Beyond in drastically different ways. The critic in me is constantly trying to put a score on it too and it's hard. The gameplay suffers I think because of the attempt to make it non-gamer friendly with the touch app, the DS3 just isn't a suitable option for the vagueness of the setup. It would have been better to stick to more familiar controls, the ones everyone mistakenly calls QTEs.

I'm also a little bummed that it's a lot of pieces that bounce back and forth without much context. It's still very powerful and has already provoked a host of creative ideas out of my own mind so that tells me a lot.

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Jalex
Saturday, October 12, 2013 @ 11:47:16 PM
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I think I understand your review better now, Ben. Honestly, yours was the first I read after playing 'Beyond' for a few hours, and it (along with the majority of others) seemed so alien to my experience. I still consider it in the same league as 'Heavy Rain', if not surpassing it, but I can appreciate your perspective.
Personally, I just finished 'Beyond: Two Souls', and with only a third of the Trophies earned, so I'm looking forward to starting it up again.

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Gordo
Saturday, October 12, 2013 @ 11:53:10 PM
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As I just got a $200 bill for going over my monthly limit on my Internet provider, a lot of places around the world are seriously not set up for a digital only service. To get an unlimited GB plan around here costs hundreds of dollars a month. Speeds are rubbish as well so trying to download a 50GB PS4 game seems still like something from science fiction (Australia we love you!).

I feel there is still a place for a console and physical games. My Vita gets a lot of digital love (though my 16GB card is nearly full), but I don't download much on the PS3 (even less in the future after my last bill).

Want to try Beyond Two Souls but may wait for a price cut. Dragons Crown on the Vita is occupying me at the moment.

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Lawless SXE
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 12:12:11 AM
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I think that Sony and Microsoft are more likely to follow the route of the Steam Machines in that they'll be backing a particular set of computers created by third parties, but their service networks will still be accessible on any computer. I can't say I like the idea, but. I don't understand why everything has to be online and digital and so on. It's a little depressing, actually.

My most anticipated next-gen game is inFamous: Second Son. Delsin seems like even more of a bad-a*s than Cole, mostly because of his more laid back, "I don't give a f**k" attitude. I always thought that Cole was pretty cool, but Delsin makes him look like a prude. Also, the increased destructibility and new powers at Delsin's disposal look pretty epic. It's just a shame that only the big powers have seen any real changes. There's still the assault rifle/grenades/rocket launcher powers that have been around since the early days. I wish that had changed to be a bit more inventive, but alas.

Thief is second, though. I think that the more realistic art style really sets it apart from Dishonored and it seems to look more Gothic when compared to Dishonored, which was more Gothic-Industrial. Maybe it's just me. That being said, the gameplay does seem quite similar sans the magical powers. If I have one complaint, it is that it would be better in third person, but that's just me.

Personal Update:
Been playing PES. Have to review it, but I'm having trouble knowing where to start. Sports games just aren't my thing. Excited to get to Beyond next week (hopefully).
Other than that, not much has changed.

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BigDanT
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 12:28:08 AM
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Witcher looks amazing, so does The Company. Both of those have the rpger in me excited and with the online play with my friends in the company makes me excited. I have convinced several friends to jump to the PlayStation band wagon and I cant wait for this next month to be over.

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I007spectre
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 12:32:02 AM
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Absolutely loving Beyond! It is definitely in my top ten PS3 games, maybe even top five.

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Temjin001
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 1:10:02 AM
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I'm neutral about the idea of a games delivery service. Pros and cons would come by way of how it's monetized and how open the service is.
I think it's important for Sony to respond and adapt to the changing landscape by embedding themselves at the network level rather than at the expensive hardware level. I also think younger generations of gamers will observe how we procured games and played them in the past as something very archaic.

I'll give Beyond a shot at some point. I expected the game to create mixed opinions but I didn't expect the mechanical issues it seems to have. I thought Cage demonstrated he understood the basics of good game implementation well enough to not reserve any concern for Beyond. It seems I was wrong.

PGU: Finished Crysis 3 for PC. I really love the Crysis games. I'd have to say it's probably the best FPS I've played this gen. And in that I mean it didn't seem so big of a jump as some FPS games had, but if all were to release simultaneously I think I'd consider Crysis 3 the best of them. I started a second play through on a harder difficulty. I suspect this game is played best on harder modes. The more tactical FPS games really become better like this. Halo, for example, just needs to be played on Heroic to be fully appreciated.
I feel I started the next-gen early. The graphics are the best I've seen in real-time. I'll put up a link below to some screen grabs I snagged while playing. It truly looks that good, res and all, in motion.

I found a Mass Effect 2 save file online that looks identical to my choices and preferences I made while playing the 360 versions. I've been waffling on playing ME3 as I got it free on my PC some months ago but I didn't want to play it because my save history was on another platform. Now it seems I won't have to be concerned with that.

EDIT: Note, I didn't play the Bioshocks and Half Life 2 was last gen. It came out the month Halo 2 did as a point of reference.

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Temjin001
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 1:10:41 AM

http://david-mason.deviantart.com/gallery/

Be sure to click into the photo to see the higher detail. Better yet, downloading the pic gives you the full 1080p grab.

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Beamboom
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 10:56:25 AM

According to my totally objective and always correct opinions, Crysis are indeed the best FPS games this gen. My favourite of the three is the second. That game alone completely revived my interest in the genre.


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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 11:51:29 AM

Crysis good, but not best. Best imitation of a big budget sci fi epic though.

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Beamboom
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 2:18:29 PM

Crysis an "imitation"? Of what?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 3:39:51 PM

Hollywood Sci fi aliens=bugs invasion story.

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Shams
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 4:38:32 PM

Nice screen captures, and by the way, impressive artwork, Sensei Temjin.

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Beamboom
Monday, October 14, 2013 @ 3:57:39 AM

@Worled: Ah, in that sense. Well then I might agree with you.
But I think the story is fitting for an action fps. My main problem with it was that I found it really hard to follow at times. The first and last were not has hard, but C2 (who happen to also be my favourite) was really tough and confusing for me.

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Temjin001
Monday, October 14, 2013 @ 10:58:23 AM

Thanks Master Shams =)

I love all the Crysis games, each for their own reasons. I like the openness and vehicles of the first two, Crysis and Crysis Warhead. I like the size and refined offering of Crysis 2, and I do prefer harvesting Seph energy over looking for harder to see plain cases in Crysis 3. And Crysis 3 I like for it's most dynamic level of play, what with the bow and the grass, and the hacking of turrets and stuff.

So World, knowing your aversion to FPS in general, what's your fav?
And yah, I agree that Crysis feels like a bunch of Hollywood 80's and 90's movies cobled together. I don't care too much and I sort of like if for that seeing that it was my era of action movies. There's a spot about 2/3 of the way in Crysis 3 that felt just like the opening battle from Terminator 2.

EDIT: I should also note I haven't played Far Cry 3. I just know that'll be a strong contender. Love the Far Cry games.



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Temjin001
Monday, October 14, 2013 @ 11:03:39 AM

I'll also say I was impressed by how much effort Crytek placed into closing up Crysis 3. The ending events were longer, detailed and satisfying, for your typical FPS anyway. It felt like solid closure to a great run of FPS on our current gen.

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bigrailer19
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 1:22:46 AM
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I would prefer to get a new console every once in a while; im not a fan of this service type deal. But whatever.

I will be looking forward to Thief as well. Although I would prefer them not to take pointers from Dishonoreds gameplay as I think it just felt out of control and bonkers. I prefer things to be tighter especially in a stealth game.

PGU: This Borderlands 2 loot hunt has my full aattention. Its just a fun way to partake in a community event. So it has my attention again. I would prefer the community challenges be more challenging as by the time I got on today the community had already reached the goal. Although that doesnt hurt my chances of winning the prizes, or of getting the weekly in game item (this week a rocket launcher, if all daily community goals are met), I still would have liked to lend my hand, plus it shows up in your stats, but oh well.

Diablo 3 is on the shelf. I never got back to it like I wanted and now Borderlands 2 has my attention into November and the PS4 is out shortly after so... Im playing GoW:A mp as my filler right now. Its just to good. Certainly not enough credit and too many nay sayers out there but Sony Santa Monica did such a good job. It may not be needed but its a worthy addition to be sure.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 11:52:24 AM

Diablo 3 didn't capture me either.

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bigrailer19
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 1:36:39 PM

I loved Diablo 3 I beat it and had full intent to replay it through the toughest difficulty. But now im side tracked.

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___________
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 3:08:52 AM
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im really not sure if $ony will be able to do enough to just become a services brand though.
look at what happened to sega, they ditched the hardware race and now they release maybe what 2 games a year?
and most of their games are JP exclusives because they sell extremely poorly here.
they went from one of the biggest contributors to the industry, to one of the smallest!

i really dont know what to expect with theif.
on one hand its created by the devs who did human revolution, one of the best games this gen!
always been a massive thief fan, and always loved stealth games too.
but on the other hand, well, previews for the game have hardly been positive.
and the vids released for it for some reason just dont feel right, there just not exciting me for the game at all.

finished beyond on friday and all i can say is seriously?
ANOTHER f*cking game with the stupid BS cliche endings?
oh come on for f*cks sake we really are turning into hollywood!
the second you enter the elevator and strap on those belts i instantly knew every single little thing that was going to happen.
the big bad military and world domination, i mean come on what is this the 1980s?
cage has to be THE worlds BIGGEST hypocrite!
he b*tches and whines how everythings about shooting, he b*tches and whines about how no one is trying anything different.
then he goes and creates the most cliched been there done that 100 billion times before story!
i mean heavy rains story may not be believable, but at least it does not feel like it was pulled out of your typical hollywood flick.

another thing that was really frustrating is how god dam scripted the game is.
your off doing your own thing than the game takes the controls away from you and pulls you into the direction the game wants.
theres just so many areas where i was trying to progress one way and couldent, only when i listened to the cameras constant pulls to one direction, could i continue.
the games constantly shouting no, its my way or the highway!
which is so disappointing and jarring especially after heavy rain which was the total opposite.
one perfect example the indian house you get invited to, your explicitly told go to sleep and do not open your door.
i tried to do that because i dident want to piss them off, but nope you HAVE to leave your room, and the game wont let you progress till you open the front door and see the storm.
its constantly forcing you into it wants you to do.
your choices and actions really dont matter either, even less so than heavy rain.
the party a perfect example first time i played it i danced with the guy, romanced him, kissed him, demonstrated my powers, so they turned on me calling me a slut and a witch.
so next time i played through i did the complete opposite, i did not dance, i was very reserved in my answers, i did not kiss anyone, i did not demonstrate my powers, and i got the exact same result.
1 + 1 = 2.
1 + 2 = 2.
1 - 3 = 2.
11 + 5 = 2.
WTF!?
does not matter what you do, the result is the same.
so whats the point of letting me choose, if its going to make ZERO difference!?
even when you freak out and let aiden take his revenge, i ended up knocking everyone out unconscious then burning the place down, i dident open the door, but still i got the same cutscene of everyone magically waking up, the door magically opening, and everyone magically running out.
so again, whats the point of giving me the choice of knocking everyone out, and not opening the door, if everyones still going to magically escape?
you never see the consequences of your actions, even the bar scene where jodies playing pool i flipped it grabbed the shotgun and shot everyone.
what were the consequences of that?
jack!

i dident care for the characters half as much as what i did in heavy rain either.
dunno if that was because of the disjointed decisions not mattering, or the f*cked and frustrating jumping back and forward story, or something else, but i just did not care at all.
character dies great lets move on, character does not die great move on.
i couldent care less if entities engulfed the whole friggin world!
which is such a shame because heavy rain was the only game thats really made me care for the characters, so i really was expecting the same here.

so yay, we continue the stigma of sequels never being as good as their predecessors.
ok beyonds not so much a sequel, but it still stands.
why does that always happen?
maybe hype and expectations hurt the experience a little, expectations were no where near as high as heavy rain, but thats not all to blame.
matter of fact is beyond is just no where near as good a game as what heavy rain was!
once just once id love to be able to pick up a game and say hey this is actually better than the developers previous work!
just once, is that so much to ask!?

speaking of racing games, i cant believe how much advertising M$ has done at bathurst!
you need a example why M$ has always done better here, well look no further.
they actually advertise their stuff!
forza 5 is featuring bathurst for the first time so they spend millions of dollars creating their own V8 supercar to compete in the bathurst 1000, the pit exit stright grass is decorated green with the xbox one logo, theres forza 5 banners all over the place, and theres xbox one banners all over the place.
hell even the rewind system is called the forza 5 rewind system so every time the commentators go back to review a highlight M$ gets free advertisement!
GT6 is also featuring bathurst for the first time, so wheres the GT6 V8 supercar?
wheres the GT6 banners?
wheres the GT6 rewind system?
sigh.
when will $ony stop being such tighta$$e$ and understand you need to spend money to make money?


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Akuma07
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 8:17:32 PM

Is THAT all you do on this site now?

Post massive walls of text complaining about everything Sony related. It is becoming something that is expected, every article about Sony means there will be a wall of text from you bitching about them. And why the hell do you freakin' swear SO much?

Why bother? People like you would be very welcome over in the IGN comments section.


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PC_Max
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 10:58:23 PM

Ummm you may not see a change or difference in a chapter, possibly.

<<SPOILER ALERT>>

What you did at the party... you did make a choice either to be good or vengeful. You know, a moral choice for the character. Sorry that moral choices were too subtle for you but its about what how you would have handled situation. Hurt... or just walk away.

This just is not you type of game. Move on to something else like GTA or maybe if you have not played it yet, The Last of Us.

Keep playing!

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___________
Monday, October 14, 2013 @ 10:18:59 AM

whats the point of making a decision though if it changes nothing?
only towards the end of the game once you wake up in nathans office do you finally get to make some decisions that slightly affect what happens.
another thing i miss from heavy rain every level you got to choose how you wanted to do something, whether you wanted to do it at all, and how attentive you were effected the result.
for instance looking after that girl and her baby, you could help, or you could leave.
you could help and do the obvious things and you would effect the story positively, or you could be much more attentive and notice even the little things and do those as well giving you a even more positive effect.
beyond does not let you do that though, most levels force you to do something, give you zero choice on how to do it, and have no attention to detail whatsoever!
and you have to do it the way the game wants you to do it.
a perfect example of beyonds scriptedness, in the military mission i was on a rooftop on the left of saleem and couldent figure out why i couldent jump off to continue the mission.
turns out you wont get the option to jump off unless your on the right side of him instead of left.
its just so f*cking scripted, everything has to be done EXACTLY way the game wants it done.
no no i wanted 11.1mms of string, not 11.11mms, BOOM!
which is the complete polar opposite of what heavy rain offered!

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PC_Max
Monday, October 14, 2013 @ 4:48:20 PM

Not sure the scripted notion floats. ALL games are scripted and really ALL single player games are linear, unless you decide to just wander aimlessly though a world without progression.

B2S is not CoD or GTA. Its a single player story based game. Not sure what choices you played in it, assuming you played it to the end, you made and did not see. Characters in this game live or die... based on what you do. If you were expecting Mass Effect sort of changes, thats an entirely different game and really the changes in Mass Effect after playing it a few times did not really change the universe for me too much. But that did not take away from my experience.

Yep, I wait for the day where they come up with some SUPER FANTASTIC GAME... the creates itself while you play? Why do I want this? Because it would be the only game you would ever have to buy.

Come one. Fact is there are haters for this game because there are people who actually loved it and enjoyed it and admittedly express it.

Sorry your expectation whatever they were before, during and after were not met. This is not a game for you but is for many others. There must be plenty out there like LoU or GTA or whatever genre tickles your fancy.

I could really attack GTA and how bad a game that is, based on past experience and what I have seen via my friends who are fanboys. Does not mean it sucks for anyone eles.

Whatever game you like... enjoy. I'm glad there is something different out there for everyone. Keeps the industry growing and evolving.

Keep playing and peace!

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___________
Tuesday, October 15, 2013 @ 10:59:35 AM

no its not a game for me because heavy rain set the bar so high and this limboed under it.
so excuse me for being disappointed when ferrari announces the replacement to their flagship, the F12 berlinetta, and its uglier, slower, more expensive, and half as luxurious.
ie of course theres going to be haters, kinda hard to be anything but when a studios 2nd ps3 game is worse than their first.
projects are suppose to get better, not worse!

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PC_Max
Tuesday, October 15, 2013 @ 12:28:18 PM

Well it was worse for you and not to many others who enjoyed it. I am for one and I have been replaying more times than I did Heavy Rain AND I loved Heavy Rain and what it was trying to do.

Yep my expectations were met and to my thinking Cage up the ante. And I will have to say this. The real reason Heavy Rain hit me in the heart was I am a father so I could relate to that character alone. The others I did not care that much about. He really was the only character that made the difficult choices.

B2S was a different experience although I felt more empathy for the protagonist as well as one or two of the other characters.

Anyway, sorry you were disappointed. Hopefully you will find another game more to your expectations. After all I guess... its just one game of many.

Maybe Cage will surprise next gen and maybe he will disappoint me. Game development is a gamble.

Cheers!

Keep playing!

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Vivi_Gamer
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 4:30:27 AM
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I enjoyed Beyond, howeverI do think it fails what it claikms to do. I'm not going to reveal spoilers, but I dont think you actions through out the game effect the outcome, its really a few of the choices in the last few chapters, which are to be frank, quite obvious.

Also, I did not like the games structure. I have no problem with stories being told in a non-linear way, however Beyond just dose not benefit from it. One chapter called 'The Condender' Something big happens at the end and Jodie is mentioned she is troubled previously to have a problem, after this event happens it is hinted that the problem may have gone. I expected Jodie to act overjoyed, but instead she had a panic attack... This really disconnected me from the character, Had I seen the events in chronological order, I would have understood her position and feelings on the matter more. Also, with a non-linear narative, the idea is that you use it to reveal detail set earlier in the chronology of the events to add some surprise later - Beyond has no big reveal through this structure, I just see no reason for it.

But I should state I enjoyed the game, The story is sufficient and the peromances are great. One thing I really like is how long some of the sections can be, some would be about 10 minutes, but then others would be easily over an hour, I felt myself get very immersed into the longers sections. There some really impressive seqeuences and the game is certainly worht a play through, just dont expect the replay value of Heavy Rain's story.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 11:52:46 AM

I think it has the same number of endings as HR though.

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Solid Fantasy
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 10:41:14 AM
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Will Thief be anything like AC? I can't seem to get a hold of the AC control and overall mechanic.

In other questions. If I end my PS+ subscription will I lose my instant game collection, but get it back if I resubscribe next year?

PGU: Still making my way through ICO. Resisting the urge to use a walkthrough. Can't wait for SOTC! 3rd playthrough of TLOU b/c why not? Finished GOWIII. The Vita has been holding up well with Knytt Underground, KZ:M, Rayman Origins, and soon Machinarium.

After playing through GOWIII I can't help but wonder what would happen if Santa Monica and Quantic Dreams teamed up. The accessibility of GOWIII and the ambition of Beyond could compliment each other very well. Just a thought.

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Akuma07
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 8:11:13 PM

That's correct, if you lose your PS+ sub, you lose access to your games. You can leave them installed, but they won't run.

I don't know what would happen if you turned off your internet connection before it ran out, and never went back online. How would the games know?

But anyway, yeah if you resub then you get your access back.

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xenris
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 11:02:23 AM
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I dont think it will work as a service until internet companies figure there stuff out. In north america our internet is terrible compared to other places in the world. People wouldn't be able to afford digital only services.

I think I will try Beyond out one time in the future because I did like heavy rain but I was really let down by the demo. I'm someone who craves engaging gameplay now, and this game was sorely lacking that. Story seemed really cool though and I think would be worth pushing through the game for.

I think Thief looks great as well. I'm a huge stealth game fan, and am really excited to see it on the rise again. I'm the kid who played all the Tenchu games, and the original MGS games because of the sneaking and stealth elements. Heck The Mark of Kri had excellent stealth as well. Either way I'm really glad these are making a comeback, I really liked Dishonored so more games like that would be awesome.

PGU

Playing Rayman Legends and beat the game, now I just need to go and beat the Rayman Origins levels it has in the game. Seriously this game is one of the best values ever. It has most of Rayman Origins in the game, as well as the several Legends levels, and on top of that it has new daily and weekly challenges.

I wonder if Ben is ever going to review this or if its going to go unnoticed like Binary Domain?

Games I want to get are Sonic Racing Transformed, and Mortal Kombat Komplete. They both had price drops and I have been eying both games for a while.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 3:40:33 PM

Binary Domain great.

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PC_Max
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 1:15:29 PM
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Thanks Ben.. you just made me feel that much older. lol.

I think feelings regarding the discs disappearing to be replaced by digital DL are the same as yours. I have thought about for the last few years with all the DLC as well as indie games on PSN Store. May come down to the old trophy thing I suppose. You see the game case on the shelf and you tell your self thats my game, I bought it, I played it, I beat it. Your friends or family are there for them to see. Similar to having books sitting on shelves or movies. You read or watched once or twice... and they sit there like trophies. We call them libraries and tell ourselves that we have them so when ever the feeling hits us we can go over, pick it off the shelf and there your are. But how often are we doing that.

For years its been a material world. Digital music came along, digital movies via purchase or a service to watch. Now its games. So really do we need to own them or have them on our shelves. Do we lose that feeling of ownership? The "its mine" feeling. I can watch it, read it, or play it anytime I want, when I want, and how I want. Is that all gone from us?

My only issues with everything going digital, whether we buy it and download it OR watch/play it via a streaming/cloud service in the future is.... how much is the product going to be because its not physically costing the producer as much now, AND if a DL product how much this is gonna cost me with my service provider and the hardware I will need to play it and store it. We replace one expense with possibly much more. Its out of the consumers pocket again while the manufacturer saves costs but possibly charges the same or more. Also, the portability. Not that I am one to play vid games at the cottage since there is plenty to do there, others may want to.

Its going to be interesting to see how this evolves and have the industry will change in the next 5 to 10 years. I am already starting to lose interest in games myself. Been tempted to by a couple of pinball machines for some reason. Mid-game-life crisis? lol

I don't like it, but.... it is coming and it will either work or it won't. In this day and age where gamers possibly more often are to trade there games in for new ones... maybe ownership should go the way of the dodo and the games seen more as rentals.

Keep playing!

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Akuma07
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 8:09:45 PM
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From what I understand, the choices you make in Beyond don't really affect the outcome at all.

It doesn't help that the story jumps back and forth so much that choices don't seem to matter, such as a person living or dying, because we see that person in a scene later on in her life.

My other favourite gaming sites have rated it very low, both for the same reasons. I kinda feel an 8 is a bit generous.

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Jalex
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 9:24:21 PM

If that's your understanding, then you really don't understand at all. Choices in 'Beyond' affect the outcome greatly. I think gamers are simply spoiled, expecting a title with 'choices' to have certain types of choices. Such as the example you give, choosing whether a character lives or dies. There are many more choices than that cliche.
An 8 may be generous for you, but for myself and seemingly most others who enjoy this type of game, an 8 doesn't do 'Beyond' justice.

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PC_Max
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 10:38:47 PM

Agreed Jalex. I think its just a want to dislike the game. Its just not their thing so it must be a bad game. The choices do change the story, maybe in subtle ways that for some they cannot see... or care.

And for those who say characters cannot live or die in the game like in Heavy Rain.... I hate to say it... people can live or die. If you missed it... play the game again, but differently. Maybe they just did not care enough to see it.

Great game... for me anyway.

Keep playing!

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iankhaneagle
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 9:20:10 PM
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can we stop with the Beyond 2 souls gushing? rented it and the Aiden mechanic is horribly flawed. there are no aides to show you what walls he can or cannot go through. it is a trial by error at best and totally takes away from the game. some verbal cues from paige would have been nice, something. instead i spent 2 hours trying to find the security room. it played like 2 parts heavy rain one part the haunting Polterguy. WEAK.

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Jalex
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 9:29:58 PM

No, we can't. I don't know why you apparently had such trouble, but I never encountered any problems like that. So I'm not going to hold something against the game that I never experienced.

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PC_Max
Sunday, October 13, 2013 @ 10:42:41 PM

2 hours? trying to get find that room? Okay, this is definitely not your type of game then and I guess you found that out. Does not mean its bad, just that you tried to play something you really are not in to. You rented it after all which is a good thing for you.

Hope you find the game that meets your expectations! But your experience is not everyones. Good luck to you!

Keep playing!

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homura
Monday, October 14, 2013 @ 9:40:58 AM
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As long as Sony is still in manufacturing business, and I hope they will continue to manufacture and innovate new tech, they will not abandon hardware and just go for service. It's just sad that they have to give in just because not everyone (developers) can keep up with their exotic tech.

PGU:
Finished Chris campaign in Resident Evil 6 and even though the controls seems unbalance and needed tinkering to suit my play style and sometimes the AI acts stupid, still the designs of the BOW is amazing and those boss fights especially the last is hard yet enjoyable to defeat. And amazingly the ending of Chris campaign no matter how cliche, is still very nicely done. Kudos for making me smile.

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PlatformGamerNZ
Monday, October 14, 2013 @ 7:04:23 PM
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i'll say i watch F1 on tv but the game i'm not so fussed on and take it from some one who's never really been into sports games heaviily(bisides what i have mentioned in the past skateboadr and skii/snow board) FIFA 14 actually look alright might pick it up in the nxt couple years provided 1 i have the cash and 2 there isn't another game i'd rather get. but yea i won't be so quick to kick it for touch anymore lets just say.

happy gaming =)

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