Final Fantasy VII's Legacy Assured
You know, we like to reminisce with everyone else, and I'm always a fan of examining the finer points of the classics. This is why I read IGN Retro's "Is Final Fantasy VII Overrated?" article with much interest. They raise many good points, and I don't really have any inclination to address each point specifically. Besides, I agree with a lot of it. However, in asking whether or not a classic is "overrated," I think we need to step back and look at the bigger picture.
First of all, let's all remember that FFVII is going to be 12 years old this year, and gaming has come a long way since then. Obviously, the graphics and technicals on the whole have become far more advanced, we have this thing called "voice acting" now, and yes, the combat and overall gameplay has taken huge strides in the past decade. Therefore, I think we can only view FFVII in two ways when asking the "overrated" question: we can either do what we all did twelve years ago and simply compare it to all available competing titles at the time, or we can analyze how it has withstood the test of time. The latter is more difficult, simply because everyone may view the situation from a number of different angles. But as I'm writing this damn thing, this is my point of view.
Any entertainment product's legacy must rely on the position that product holds as time goes on. In other words, the consumer must remember the product and place it in high esteem; it must act as a measuring stick and a plateau for all future comparisons. As far as I can tell, this is exactly what has happened with FFVII. Sure, we can attribute a lot of that rosy nostalgia to those who first leaped into the series on the PlayStation and really weren't familiar with other RPGs. And as many will say, "oh, if you think FFVII is the greatest RPG ever made, it's probably the first RPG you ever played." Yeah, well, it most certainly wasn't the first one I played, and I still consider it to be the best RPG ever. At the same time, I have to freely admit that games then and games now are extraordinarily different; it's almost impossible to make accurate comparisons. So I often have to stop and ask myself: "is it really that good, or does all this nostalgia cloud the issue?"
Well, I'm sure it does cloud the issue somewhat. But I can also gauge the overall feeling towards FFVII. It's one of the most respected and beloved titles in history, and I refuse to believe that a game can reach such a lofty peak in our minds only because we all remember it with a particular fondness. Look, I'm sure there are holes in the plot. I know you didn't have a lot of freedom. I know the adventure didn't appeal to absolutely everyone. But here's something else I know-
I know the battle system is a whole lot more complex than most have assumed in the past. Just because it's turn-based doesn't mean it's slow and easy to understand; the Materia system alone offered countless combinations, and having played most every RPG of the time, I can tell you that such a system was quite advanced and even unique. Furthermore, I've actually heard such ignorance from people who say all the characters were the "same," just because you could equip everyone with any piece of Materia. In truth, each character had a base set of statistics that dictated their inherent strengths and weaknesses, which added another dimension to the combat strategy. I also know that the storyline pacing remains excellent (still the best I've seen in RPGs), and Squaresoft managed to provide us with a memorable cast of characters. And when I say "memorable," I mean that almost every last member of the cast is worth remembering in their own way. How many RPGs have been made that boast this same unbelievable trait?
I could go on and on. But the point is this- how the general gaming public perceives a classic is how it will be judged in the years to come, and FFVII remains near the top of the list. Also, it's there for a damn good reason, so we may not need to dissect the game as IGN has done. It's fun and everything, and definitely worth a read if you're a hardcore fan, but in the end, the bigger picture is the bottom line. Take an overview, people. Combine what you see with your own memories. Based on your findings, would you consider FFVII to be overrated?
3/4/2009 Ben Dutka
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rell
Thursday, March 05, 2009 @ 7:01:14 AM
NoSmokingBandit
Wednesday, March 04, 2009 @ 10:30:32 PM
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I could not agree more, Ben. FF7 actually was the first RPG i played. I think i was 12 at the time, lol. I picked up a black label copy witht he strategy guide at a yard sale for $5. I didnt know what the game was, but it looked cool and was cheap, so i bought it. I took it home that saturday and played through what felt like a few minutes only to realize that it was 5 in the morning and my parents were going to be pissed! Being 12, i didnt understand the story, nor did i care. All i wanted to do was find more materia! I would sit in class at school pondering materia combinations and how to use them...
Since then i have grown to love the story, the characters, and everything in the game, but more than anything i remember how that game affected me like no game before it (or after it for a while, for that matter).
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Gogaku
Wednesday, March 04, 2009 @ 11:13:05 PM
It wasn't the first RPG I played, but it was the first RPG I played when understanding the story, lol. The very first RPG I played was Phantasy Star for the Sega Master System, but I was too young to understand any of it. :)
LegendaryWolfeh
Wednesday, March 04, 2009 @ 10:35:29 PM
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chicko1983
Wednesday, March 04, 2009 @ 11:29:42 PM
Godslim
Thursday, March 05, 2009 @ 5:19:59 AM
AceTatsujin
Wednesday, March 04, 2009 @ 10:38:54 PM
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I can tell you one thing, I was drawn to the graphics, yes and honestly to put it in words, I never really cared about it. The battle system, Materia, the equipment, the friendship and storyline, the characters, the world of Final Fantasy VII was such a masterpiece, Sephiroth is also included and the NPCs (just about all of them, even Don from the very beginning as I recall his actions perfectly). This game is not just a legend or a masterpiece, THIS IS the game that started it all and started my RPG lunatic ideas and to purchase other RPG games and to be sucked into the FF world (which, after FF VII, most kinda sucked). And that, is that. FF VII is TEH best RPG game ever made in my book, and to date. We'll see how FF XIII/Versus, White Knight Chronciles and Demon Souls will do.
BigT_1980
Wednesday, March 04, 2009 @ 11:22:20 PM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, March 05, 2009 @ 10:50:13 AM
AceTatsujin
Thursday, March 05, 2009 @ 12:41:05 PM
Anyways, let me know what else I missed, I'm sure I covered it in the game.
shindelion
Wednesday, March 04, 2009 @ 11:04:13 PM
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rell
Thursday, March 05, 2009 @ 7:06:19 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, March 04, 2009 @ 11:27:26 PM
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Nostalgia aside, I decided not to read that IGN article when I saw it on my own earlier because I don't NEED it justified to me: Other's have come close (FFX) but I still think the composition, characters, and delivery are the Gold Standard: sadly something Square is throwing to the wolves these days.
But I will never forget!
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ps92117
Wednesday, March 04, 2009 @ 11:40:55 PM
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rell
Thursday, March 05, 2009 @ 7:13:54 AM
Geobaldi
Thursday, March 05, 2009 @ 1:26:04 AM
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But I still love FFVI more. More complex story, more characters, more depth. And two games in one if you think about it. You have the original world you play in up until it is destroyed and then the story really branches off for everybody and you have to play in the destroyed world until the end. Others may disagree but FFVI is the pinnacle of console RPGs. For me at least. But FFVII really brought the RPG mainstream. Think the genre exploded afterwards with the Alundra series, the Lunar series (not counting the Saturn version), Arc the Lad, Thousand Arms, and many others. We have much to thank Squaresoft for for creating such an iconic, and possibly their most recognizable, title in gaming.
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, March 05, 2009 @ 10:48:54 AM
I also found none of the characters to be memorable, unlike in FFVII. I think it's just the leap in technology...as hard as they try, they simply can't have a sprite with a little heart over its head convey the same messages and overall impact as Cloud laying Aeris to rest.
LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 05, 2009 @ 1:51:39 AM
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migabyte
Thursday, March 05, 2009 @ 10:18:20 AM
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migabyte
Thursday, March 05, 2009 @ 10:20:46 AM
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Ultimadream
Thursday, March 05, 2009 @ 11:58:28 AM
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Banky A
Thursday, March 05, 2009 @ 12:18:44 PM
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It taught me how to speak English and use complicated words when I came to New Zealand =D
I had better vocabulary creative writing skills than anybody in my kiddies' class at the time hah.
I was like 7 or 8 when my now-neighbour let me borrow it and told me to play it.
;)
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CH1N00K
Thursday, March 05, 2009 @ 12:19:14 PM
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Squaresoft did an amazing job on the game, but what worries me is that a remake would be over rated.
Think of all the frustrations we've had over the last few years with Square-Enix. Not to mention that even with all the new voice acting, and updated Graphics/Gameplay, they are still going to have to create something amazing in order to recreate the same feeling we got over the original. (Note: Create means change) The hardcore enthusiast will be upset about any changes, the newcomers will be comparing the game to all current gen RPG's...
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the game will sell really well, but it won't give you the same initial WOW factor you got when the first FFVII released. The original was cutting edge for it's time, it had things that no one had ever seen before, it set the bar for RPG's pretty high.
The remake would have to be pretty amazing to make it better than the original.
So in my opinion, the Original is as good as it ever was (which was nothing short of amazing)....a re-make will probably be over-hyped and over-rated and not worthy of the FFVII badge.
But that could just be me and my twisted way of thinking. Any thoughts?
Fabi
Thursday, March 05, 2009 @ 12:58:38 PM
BikerSaint
Thursday, March 05, 2009 @ 2:24:27 PM
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But since I've never really gotten into RPG's, I've never even played either of them.
Now after reading all the positive comments on the FF series(especially FF7), I think I'll pop them both in & see if I've changed my mine on Rpg's.
BTW, just wondering....is the "FF Tactics" game a good one too????
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TGG
Thursday, March 05, 2009 @ 2:57:06 PM
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Karosso
Thursday, March 05, 2009 @ 9:23:21 PM
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Until two months ago the only RPG I had ever beaten was Chronotriger, and then I got Final Fantasy one and two for the PSP.
I just beat FF1 and am starting 2 right now...
I have been thinking about beating all FF games minus 11, I'm not big on the whole online thingy.
This article and your comments has just made my resolve two fold!!!!
Last edited by Karosso on 3/5/2009 9:23:44 PM
Vagnor
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 @ 1:31:18 PM
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Could the same not be said about them and their love for FFVI then? If it was their first, then they are being hypocritical. If it wasn't, then their theory is shot. Personally, I started on FFI, the original Final Fantasy, and by no means do I feel any sort of crazed attachment or love for that title. It was fun, but by no means was it fabulous.
The thing about FFVII was that it was revolutionary in so many different areas. FFVI was great, but all it had was an amazing story. Even if the story was a tad better than FFVII (Which I personally do not think it was), it doesn't beat FFVII in the areas of graphics, sound, or arguably gameplay. FFVII is a legend because it was the best of the best in every single area of gaming. FFVI was a cookie-cutter RPG, looking, sounding, and playing the same as its predecessors. FFVII was a UNIQUE experience and it opened so many doors for the genre.
Not only was FFVII one of the best RPGs ever made, but it innovated gaming in general. That is why it is legendary, and that is why it will always be considered to be the best game of all time to millions of fans. If you honestly think that it wasn't as innovative as people make it out to be, then you don't know your gaming history. Personal preference aside, it was a masterpiece which helped build gaming up into what it is today.
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Wednesday, March 04, 2009 @ 10:29:33 PM