Is Sony Trying To Launch The PS4 Before The New Xbox?

With the new report that internal Sony developers are already working on titles for the new PlayStation, this begs the obvious question: when will the PS4 arrive?

The answer is important because it tends to have a big impact on a generation. Sony hit first with the PS2 in 2000; the Xbox and GameCube launched over a year later and never had a chance to catch up. Of course, there were other factors involved; i.e., it was Microsoft's debut game console, but we're focusing on the launch dates. Come this generation, it was Microsoft that got the jump on Sony, releasing the Xbox 360 in 2005. The PS3 didn't drop until over a year later and it has been behind ever since, despite the closing worldwide gap.

It's true that the PS3 was far too expensive at $600, the launch lineup wasn't overly impressive, Blu-Ray hadn't yet won the high-definition format war, and the PlayStation Network was in its infancy. However, it really seems as if the head-start is a huge deal for any manufacturer over the past few generations, so does Sony need to beat Microsoft to the finish...er...start line? Could the PS4 launch before the next Xbox? And what if, for the first time, both systems came out at about the same time? That might generate some discussion.

At any rate, with details for new consoles seemingly right around the corner, those discussions are gonna erupt, anyway.

Tags: sony, ps4, playstation 4, new playstation

10/20/2011 8:54:54 PM Ben Dutka

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VampDeLeon
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 9:29:37 PM
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Yes

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Zorigo
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 3:18:03 PM

HAH
Love his directness

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bluedarrk
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 9:31:02 PM
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Well I'm pretty sure we all know that the next xbox will launch with halo but what would the ps4 launch with? killzone 4? infamous 3? mgs? GoW 4? Gran Turismo? I will only get the ps4 because of the great exclusives. So it doesn't matter if it launches after the xbox or before it. Just as long as it is reasonably priced I'll get it. But I'm fine with my ps3 right now I have I'm happy with it.

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bigrailer19
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 10:46:42 PM

Don't think it would be a MGS, sadly. If it was it will
Most likely be on more than just Sonys console. But I think GoW4 would be a great launch title, as would any of the others you mentioned!

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FatherSun
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 8:12:50 AM

@bigrailer, I don't think they will or should call it God Of War 4. Let the Trilogy remain legendary as is. I'm ready for the next GOW saga.

But if they call it GOW4 I'm still up in there!

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bigrailer19
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 10:30:51 AM

Well then let's say the 4th installment for home consoles.

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Nasty80
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 9:37:12 PM
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what was the span between ps2 and 3, 7 or 8 years?

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CanadianGuy420
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 10:29:26 PM

6 years. ps2 was october 2000 ps3 november 2006

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DVE2k
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 9:43:40 PM
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I beleive Nintendo is gonna start it off this time in 2012 (holiday time) with there WiiU. Then PS4 some time around Spring 2013 and then Xbox Next or 720 around Holiday 2013. TO answer this question I hope not PS3 has alot of shelf life left etc... even though 360 has more ram and more GPU ram than PS3, it still doesn't even come close to the Cell CPU in terms of quanity and at times quality such as Uncharted 2, Killzone 2 and 3, and other PS3 games.

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Highlander
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 2:44:51 AM

Except that WiiU is Nintendo playing catchup to the present standard offered by PS3 and 360, and more than one analyst has already commented that the WiiU isn't 'next Gen' stuff.

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xnonsuchx
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 3:08:25 AM

They both have about the same amount of RAM...except the 360 has 512MB GDDR3 shared RAM + 10MB framebuffer and the PS3 has 256MB XDR system RAM + 256MB GDDR3 video RAM. The give and take of both architectures is arguable, though.

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FatherSun
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 8:33:09 AM

Nintendo seems to be its own worst enemy right now. I still Love them but my tastes have gotten far too advanced for what they are bringing to the table. Time will tell. I fear they will Sega-ed in 5 years. Good Luck Mario.

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Underdog15
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 8:58:46 AM

So, here's a question... if you have two systems with, on paper, comparable stats... will a better engineered infrastructure produce head-over-tails better performance?

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telly
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 9:43:32 AM

The WiiU blows my mind, and not in a good way -- Nintendo actually has the gall to tout HD graphics as some huge breakthrough, while 360 and PS3 have been offering them the last FIVE-PLUS YEARS. And while I'm moderate intrigued by the connectivity options with the WiiU controller, I'll bet it's nothing one won't be able to do with the Vita and PS3.

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AcHiLLiA
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 2:55:22 PM

@Highlander

If that's the case, Nintendo is really aiming for the younger audience. Plus Nintendo still has great games for the older gen. players that all fell in love with.

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Snaaaake
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 9:47:48 PM
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It makes no difference.
Coming after the domination of PS1 and PS2, PS3 should have crush the 360 early.
Lack of AAA-launch title, expensive price etc. prevented that.
Yes, in order to be on top, key franchises will have to be a launch game, regardless of PS4 being released later or sooner.

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FatherSun
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 8:26:22 AM

I think the PS3 could have pulled it off even at the expensive launch price. Of course a better price would have helped and more games is simply vital. It just seemed to me that SONY kind of distanced itself fron the PS2. Sony had more than momentum with the PS2. They literally OWNED the market. It was theirs to lose. They should have done everything in their power to associate the PS3 with the PS2 user base. Make it seem like a natural evolution. At launch PS3 seemed like an a Maserati selling to a Ford market.

Some even considered Sony "ARROGANT". In retrospect I now know that Sony was providing a product that the market did not know it needed. Blu-Ray, Internet, etc...

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Highlander
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 9:57:57 AM

You know, based on all information - except the single statistic of hardware unit sales (which is open to interpretation given the number of dead 360s around) - the PS3 has in fact caught up with and surpassed the 360 globally despite a launch window advantage between 14 and 18 months long for the 360. I don't know about you, but the Ps3 being able to erase a 14-18 month lead and overtake in every meaningful way is, in my opinion, a display of dominance. the only gaming market where the 360 can legitimately claim dominance is in the local US market. Globally, it's a different picture entirely.

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Stabs88
Sunday, October 23, 2011 @ 8:43:32 AM

True and the fact the sony is coming out with what...100+ titles for the Vita within year one shows you they realized their mistake with PS3 software.
Me, no i will not be getting the PS4 whenever it does launch only because the PS3 as everyone is saying still is very enjoyable. That being said, im moving outta Michigan an probably wont be able to afford something like that till a price drop = /....Guess it has its ups an downs

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mjb
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 9:52:46 PM
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I want my PS4 ie duel cell bbe 2 gigs of ram 8xbd rom drive and newer nvidia gpu and 320gig hdd standard. All developers will have a foot in the door when they start making games, and it will have tons of head room to grow.

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SixSpeedKing
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 10:18:54 PM

Yes I agree. Don't know too much of the technical stuff but I at least know it needs those things you are saying as I've heard a few other people say the same thing, or something like it.

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leatherface
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 10:47:41 PM

You forgot to include the flux capacitor.

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 11:44:40 PM

Ooh! Add some time travel capacities! I wanna see how accurate some of these historical games are!

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AshT
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 1:48:46 AM

@leatherface. lol :)

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xnonsuchx
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 3:21:42 AM

How about dual (quad?) core POWER7-based CPU w/ enhanced SPE cluster(s) (double-precision and maybe higher # of SPEs) co-processor and AMD Radeon-based GPU? The CPU + SPE co-processor could mostly take care of PS3 backwards-compatibility and even a newer Radeon-based GPU should be able to take care of RSX 'emulation.'

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Highlander
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 10:00:19 AM

A quad core Power 7 (minus some of the more esoteric features) with a Spurs co-processor and the latest nVidia design would be more likely. Switching to an entirely different GPU family would somewhat ruin the point of sticking with the Cell/Power technology family. If you're going for continuity, stick with nVidia's latest.

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xnonsuchx
Saturday, October 22, 2011 @ 3:07:55 PM

I'm more of a nVidia fan myself (too many bad experiences w/ older ATI cards)...it's just that I've heard Sony was likly ditching nVidia.

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mjb
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 9:55:09 PM
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What I meant is I want my PS4 in 2013 lol

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 11:43:46 PM

Or 2014 or 2015... Or later :)

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bebestorm
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 10:05:13 PM
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No doubt the hardware will be top notch but they need the games. It would be nice to see top notch jrpg and kojima san game at launch. I would certainly buy it day one because I bought a ps3 when MGS4 released and I bought 360 for Lost Odyssey.

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Qubex
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 10:26:45 PM
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I for one will actually wait for the PS4 to mature, and rather enjoy the huge backlog of PS3 games I am yet to collect and play.

I have many years of buying PS3 games on the cheap and enjoying the unit.

I won't jump straight in. Similarly for the Vita... I realise it is better to watch and wait for the platform to mature... and pick up the system and its AAA games cheaper...

Then you can enjoy all of it a discount if you are prepared to wait and have patience.

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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StubbornScorpio
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 10:34:18 PM

I applaud you, the PS3 still has plenty of life and a huge library of games that I haven't fully explored either.

Patience really pays off in the long run, especially in this economy.

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bigrailer19
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 10:48:55 PM

I too will enjoy the PS3 as long as I can, and I certainly don't think it's even close to outdated, it's got a lot of life left.

But... If the PS4 is backwards compatible, which it should be, and it has a great lineup of launch titles, I won't hesitate to purchase it.

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Highlander
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 10:04:17 AM

If they're already working on games in-house, look for a 2012 release. Sony originally showed the PS3 at the 2005 E3 because Microsoft were launching the 360 that year and Sony had to have something to show. They would not have show as much as they did if MS had not been in launch mode. So, this time around I doubt Sony would give an 18 month notification of launch. I would expect that they would show the new system off at E3 with a Holiday 2012 launch window. That gives developers a 6 month window post e# to polish games.

That's assuming that there really are production teams inside Sony already working on PS4 games. If there are not, then I still think it will be a 2013 launch window, and Sony will only say something in 2012 if push comes to shove like it did in 2005.

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StubbornScorpio
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 10:43:35 PM
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I can't help but think of Naughty Dog's recent statement about how we won't see any more huge graphical leaps in software titles. No doubt the Dogs have access to PS4 technology (if these reports are to be believed) to make such a bold claim.

Anyways, I think Sony's recent campaigning has primed the PlayStation brand to expand to new hardware (beyond the Vita) in the next couple of years. I'm still trying to catch up on the PS3 titles I've missed out on though; this console should still have plenty of life for a few years more.

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bigrailer19
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 10:52:57 PM

I don't think it's a bold claim at all. They have achieved what many developers simply strive to... If anybody can make a claim an it mean something it's them. Personally over the past year or so I havnt seen any significant graphical leaps like Uncharted 2 gave us. So there's probably a lot of validity in that claim.

I think the best days of the PS3 are right now, and right now can last a couple years, we seen that with the PS2. So there's still room for graphical improvement, and the PS3 has a lot of life left, it just probably won't be a very significant leap.

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StubbornScorpio
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 11:22:51 PM

I think it's a bold claim in the sense that, like you've said, other developers haven't been able to master the PS3 hardware and push it to the limits in the same way. Those multiplatform developers seem a little too comfortable with the level of technical prowess they've achieved (albeit titles like Assassin's Creed and Dead Space are stunning). I wholeheartedly agree that Naughty Dog made a meritable claim though, they've been with the PlayStation brand ever since the PS1 so no doubts there.

The PS3's lifespan never concerned me, and neither did the "significant leap" comment because Sony is gathering momentum now more than ever. Long Live Play indeed.

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bigrailer19
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 1:28:40 AM

Yea I guess it just depends. I mean take the word of the developer who has made a huge leap in graphics, or listen to those who are comfortable with what they have. Either way I see where your coming from. Like you said some multi plat devs have made good looking games. But I'm not sure what there take is on the matter. But when ND says something like this, I kinda feel like I should take there word for it. Ya know?

But none of this means anything in the sense that the PS3 has no more potential. I'm certain ND would say the same, the PS3 is and will continue to go strong and there's still room for improvement upon games.

But I see where your coming from and I agree.

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StubbornScorpio
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 1:31:17 AM

*thumbs up*

Well put friend :)

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Highlander
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 10:13:04 AM

IMHO Naughty Dog are one of, if not *the* leading software development team on the PS3. They are at the leading edge with the PS3 environment. When they signal that there are no more quantum leaps in graphical quality (resolution wise) coming on the PS3, that's an indication that 2012 will be the last year of such leaps by other 1st party and the elite 3rd party devs. In which case, I'd definitely look to 2013 as the launch window for the PS4.

On the other hand, ND has been showing a lot of U3 over the last year, so we don't really know when they wrapped the majority of the work on the game. It's conceivable that they have been working on PS4 development for months already, even if tit's simply a smaller, more hardcore team. In which case holiday 2012 is a possibility for the PS4. The key aspects of that launch for Sony will be PS4 must not be hideously expensive, PS4 must have a great launch library of games (personally I think it needs to be 100% PS3 compatible), and like the Vita, the PS4 needs to connect with PSN and use all the services and content that users are familiar with.

I hope that the PS4 will be software compatible with PS3 game discs, but I am not certain of it. There are security concerns that could make that more difficult. Although, those security issues could be taken care of with respect to downloadable games sine they can more easily be re-built/packaged using the new security architecture.

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zork
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 11:24:29 PM
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Well there might be many factors that come into play in the next year or so that determines if gamers see the Playstation 4, one of them could be cloud gaming..and technology advances that Sony may hold out for..rather than just release the Playstation 4 to be first, it's a wait and see deal.

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FatherSun
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 8:50:34 AM

All the more reason for SONY to introduce a PS4 sooner than later. Sony is of so many things a manufacturer. They know that the market is moving into the cloud. That is where the PlayStation Suite will thrive. So bringing in a PS4 before everyone spreads out into gaming on any device with a screen would be a smart move. Eventually people will have one central device to rule them all. Our lives will be in the machine.

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Highlander
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 10:14:51 AM

Indeed Fathasun, Sony has shown with the PS3 that they can add/improve features over time as well. So launching PS4 at the end of 2012 does not mean that they cannot move aggressively to cloud gaming or some other thing a year or two through it's life.

Really if you compare the PS3/PSN at launch with the PS3/PSN as it is now, it's like night and day.

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Thursday, October 20, 2011 @ 11:41:04 PM
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Awe, please don't do it yet :( My wallet is already about to die D: Then again, I don't think I'd go for right away anyhow. I'm gonna use my PS3 up until I'm completely done with it. Still got all those hours of UC3 and Skyrim to put into it, soo.... Let's not forget Thieves in Time :)

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mk ultra
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 12:03:01 AM
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I think it would be fun to see the next Xbox and PS release simultaneously. Then we could see a real console war and see who comes out on top.

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FatherSun
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 8:55:16 AM

That would definitely be ALL OUT WAR! Sony will have to play dirty like M$ because you know they will try to bury the War in money.

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Highlander
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 10:15:39 AM

Sony won't play dirty, it's not their style. The fanboy wars of this generation will be as nothing compared to the wars to come if they launch simultaneously...

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mk ultra
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 10:48:22 AM

Thats why it would be fun to watch. People would argue till their heads exploded like a Clayton Bigsby sketch.

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AshT
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 1:50:38 AM
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i dont need PS4 for atleast 2 years, i'm happy with PS3, but yeah i want PS4 release if not before along with the new xbox with many awesome exclusise titles.

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shadowscorpio
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 3:50:29 AM
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Anyone know if Apple is going to jump into the game? I know that Sony has been keeping an eye on them.

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Lotusflow3r
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 6:09:28 AM

That's most likely the next company to have a crack at the Game industry i think, they basically are already.

However, there's one thing these American companies keep forgetting. The Game industry is Japanese owned. They made it what it is today. They can't be beat at their own game.

If it ain't Sony that's in charge (sales wise. Sony are always in charge technically), it's Nintendo. If Sega was still here, it would be them one generation too.
Sony are historic though. They've had a long run as industry kings.

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Beamboom
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 7:33:25 AM

... and then there's that little american company some refer to as "M$" and their console. They has a small share of the console market too and I believe have already proven their abilities in this "japanese owned industry".

I think Apple will be a horrific competitor they have every reason to fear. I am no Applefan, far from it, but they do know how to reach the mass public in a way that few others do.

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Lotusflow3r
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 9:27:55 AM

No. M$ are not doing it properly. They're doing it the typical American way....buy everything. It can only get them so far. They've offered little in way of their own thing.
Genius mass appeal ideas such as Nintendo's Wii idea (despite your opinion of it), will ultimately prevail, despite that idea not being future proof. 80million units is a damn impressive run. Sony, on the hardcore market, will win in the long run because essentially, quality and innovation will win out over mass brainwash, cookie-cutter or a "moment" idea such as the Wii.
That's why PS3 and 360 are neck and neck mostly, with Sony actually in the lead in many other countries, even with 360 having a head start, because Sony are playing their home game. People will get bored of something that's constantly in your face doing the same thing. Buying CoD DLC for a few weeks exclusivity is a terrible move and does nothing. Supporting new ideas ala Nintendo (Wii) and Sony (LBP, Heavy Rain, Team Ico, Vita) will shift units and change perceptions.

Apple would be a great competitor....but remember when Xbox came out? People were saying M$ will destroy Sony as M$ are huge. Xbox got slaughtered. This generation, the 360 is only where it is due to some cocky behaviour on Sony's part at the start of the gen....HOWEVER, the game plan was in tact from the start....Sony caught up with true innovation and diversity.

So far, there's nothing that says Japan can be beaten at their own game. Money motivation only gets you so far.

Having said all that, it's not to say that one day another nationality won't take over, it's just at the moment, the above is actuality.

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FatherSun
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 9:31:44 AM

Apple will approach the Gaming industry in a way that will be least likely to fail. This its why they have not jumped in as of yet. Also, I believe they are waiting for this Cloud stuff to be perfected. Too bad Steve Jobs won't be introducing an Apple Game System. He had such a way with words. RIP.

A far as Microsoft the "AMERICAN" company, say what you will but they came into the industry and now some consider them the market leader. Of course we here at PSX Extreme know better but just imagine how much more popular the Xbox may have been if they continued to aquire exclusives and made a machine that did not have such a horribly infamous fail rate at launch. Then again, that fail rate is what has their numbers up so high sooo..

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Highlander
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 10:26:36 AM

I don't view apple as a huge threat or factor in the video game console business any more. Two reasons, well three actually;

1) Steve Jobs. His passing actually removes one of Apple's greatest weapons - the cult of Jobs. There was an element of charismatic cult leader about him and the products/product launches he conducted. Somehow or other, the shine literally has gone off the apple with his passing.
2) One of the things that Apple is known for with their iDevices is selling them at a huge premium because they're Apple. The phones launch with hefty vendor lock in and vendor support, but the phones themselves are not worth the price paid. It's like a huge shell game, and the iPad has lent heavily on the success of the iPhone to propel it.
3) Apple does not play well with others. Apple appears to understand the consumer market beause of two extremely successful product lines. The iPhone and iPod. Well, Sony can tell you how fleeting the success of portable music players is, and without the near religious fervor of the iPhone hordes, Apple is not really a player. But if you look at Apple's behavior with their App store and other aspects of their products and services, Apple is far more aggressively protective of their proprietary hardware and software than even Sony is. Apple regularly goes after others in the industry in court. Apple simply doesn't play well with others, they are like Nintendo. When you look at the third party software for the Apple range, it's very poor, Apple dominates with it's own software line-up. Of all the factors that harm Nintendo, it's their inability to engage third parties in the way Sony have.

Gaming is much more about the hardware than Apple products typically are, it's only with the phone wars and the advent of Android that anyone has become interested in the hardware inside the phone. Even then people are more interested in the version of iOS than the hardware.

I just do not see Apple making a successful entrance into the video game console market.

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SirLoin of Beef
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 12:37:27 PM

Apple has tried back in the 90s to get into the video game market with the Apple Bandai Pippin. It didn't fair too well. Does this mean they won't try again? Not really, though I don't see them trying it out again.

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Beamboom
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 2:03:53 PM

@Word: You are right about the Cult of Jobs. It will be extremely interesting to see what happens to that company the coming years.

But Apple is very much about hardware too. Some would say more so than software even. And they have a very "proprietaric" business attitude, much like the gaming consoles. They all much live in each their own bubble, and that's a concept Apple is just too familiar with.

And Apple is very focused on the mass marked and user friendliness, again much like the gaming consoles. I mean, let's face it, gaming consoles are designed for those who want something that's easier to handle than a PC. That's their role in the computer gaming world. And that is all very familiar for Apple.

Gaming is a growing part of the entertainment industry. Apple like growth. I seriously believe Apple will release a gaming console at some stage in the future.

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Lotusflow3r
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 6:05:27 AM
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Don't need another PS just yet and i don't think we'll see anything released for at least 2 more years. They're boasting about Vita-PS3 compatibility right now, so they won't be eliminating that main focus for awhile.

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Kingharris
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 7:18:27 AM
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They have been on top since 2008.

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Gone
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 7:29:12 AM
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4K HDTVs are the next big thing and Sony would want to bring out the PS4 to match the resolution.

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Highlander
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 10:29:46 AM

4K TVs are not the next big thing. We're barely into 1080p going mainstream, even broadcasters have yet to embrace the standard. Taking that resolution and multiplying by 4, takes things beyond where even cinema presentation is today, and certainly takes it beyond the consumer.

The 1080p standard is here to stay for a decade at least. Personally I think that 1080p will be the best 2D resolution consumers will see until 2020.

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Beamboom
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 7:36:25 AM
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... But a game is in production for years, right? So, it's only natural that they have started working on ps4 games even if it's not launched until, say, 2014?

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Highlander
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 10:30:47 AM

Games are typically in production for no more than two years. The 6 year cyycle of Polyphony is unusual, as is the annual launch of games like Madden 12. Typically a game will take between 18 and 14 months from start to finish.

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Highlander
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 11:38:07 AM

That should have been between 18 and 24 months, not 14. Sorry.

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Beamboom
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 2:08:28 PM

Aha. Well there's not a question any more is it, it's a new PS in 2013 then. Damn, that's not long.
I should feel happiness but I feel disappointment! :(

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Twistedfloyd
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 9:01:32 AM
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Not getting the PS4 for years. I think I won't be getting one until at least 2015.

I'm very happy with my PS3, and really don't need anything else for a while.

And I will wait on a price drop for PS4 as well.

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Snorge
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 11:51:20 AM
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I'm an avid video game player on both the 360 and PS3 and I truly believe we do not need another console for at least 3 years in my opinion. I don't care about when the system comes out (before or after the next xbox) I know Sony makes their system more "future-proof" than any of the competitors.

Hell the PS2 had DVD as a standard when DVD players were just becoming hot and then the PS3 followed suit with Blu-Ray before it become the new mainstream media.

I wonder how close we REALLY are to the point of diminishing returns even when it comes to the next gen systems?

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maxpontiac
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 4:12:59 PM
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I am all for new systems, but the PS3 still works wonderful for me.

If the new Xbox gets to the market first, I am not sure it'll matter in places such as the USA and Japan. These markets seems set.

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Robochic
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 6:15:29 PM
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xbox will probably dump out their new "xbox" quickly and Sony once again will sit back and watch it back fire thats what usually happens.
Anyway I am still enjoying the PS3 not sure if i can see a PS4 coming out soon but you never know.
For the WiiU honestly i'm kinda over the nintendo consoles I mostly enjoy their handhelds they do a great job on that side keeping up with new games all the time.

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Nick Maim
Saturday, October 22, 2011 @ 5:00:43 PM
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That thing better be backwards-compatible or there'll be hell to pay.

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SS4
Sunday, October 23, 2011 @ 1:02:14 PM
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Now this is exciting, we will get todays graphic card in this system and hopefully backwards compatible.

Now if they launch before the crapbox that will be great for the sales, but launch date isnt everything, remember the Dreamcast :P

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LetoAtreides82
Sunday, October 23, 2011 @ 5:58:32 PM

Dreamcast's main problem was its past. The Sega Genesis was awesome but Sega went downhill from there. The Sega 32x was a colossal failure, and the Sega Saturn was a failure with the main reason being that it was too hard to program for.

Then when PS2 got announced all the 3rd party developers supported it because of the PS1's great success and Sega pretty much had to rely on its first party titles.

When Xbox and Gamecube were announced Sega knew there'd be no way they can keep supporting Dreamcast.

PS4 would have no such problems, every console they've released has been a success, and most importantly the PS3 has been a great sucess.

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LetoAtreides82
Sunday, October 23, 2011 @ 5:48:06 PM
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I don't mind if they release it in late 2012 or early 2013, especially if it's backwards compatible with the PS3. Backwards compatibility with the PS3 would be huge

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Zubair
Monday, October 24, 2011 @ 2:19:44 AM
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Theres no need for a PS4 until earliest 2014, PS3 has lots off grunt still left in it, I'd understand if the next X-Box comes as GOW3 and Forza 4 has already maxed out that hardware. PS3 multi plat games will look better when the next X-Box is released as 360's dated hardware is what limited lazy developers sharing ports with PS3. bring out the new X-Box soon so its hardware can almost match the current PS3.

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