Has EA Missed An Opportunity To Eat Into CoD's Reign?

Jawknee
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 9:31:52 PM
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I don't think EA was ever going to eat into CoD's market share. There are just way to many drones who are addicted to a game that doesn't require any thinking or strategy.

22 up, 12 down

PasteNuggs
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:00:49 PM

When I play COD, which is rarely I only play with friends I don't see often and we don't even pay attention to the game. We mostly use it as a gateway for catching up but we still somehow manage to be pretty good at it. So ya, my point is that ya there is zero thought to this game.

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12 up, 8 down

Nas Is Like
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:07:44 PM

@PasteNuggs

Mind showing me a video of your God-like skills at Call of Duty?

3 up, 18 down

PasteNuggs
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:09:54 PM

I never said "god-like" I said pretty good. Do not put words in my mouth. I don't have video. All I know is my K/D ratio is around 1.30 which I think the term "pretty good" suits that number well.

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14 up, 4 down

Jawknee
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:18:12 PM

OH! How I just love how to guy likes to out words in peoples mouths.

Knock it off Nas is Like.

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Nas Is Like
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:42:06 PM

lol.

The irony here is I never claimed you guys said that in the first place. Read between the fine lines. ;)

Last edited by Nas Is Like on 10/26/2011 10:45:25 PM

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Nas Is Like
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:45:03 PM

Your K/D is 1.30 and you're bragging? Man get outta here. You're no better than the average player.

7 up, 11 down

Jawknee
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 11:03:57 PM

He wasn't bragging or saying he had God-like skills like you accused him of. He was simply saying it's possible to play the game and not really pay attention. If that wasn't true his K/D ratio would be much lower, probably in the negative.

You just don't know when to quit do you?

10 up, 7 down

PasteNuggs
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 11:21:17 PM

Refer to Jawknee's previous comment for my retort. I have no energy left to argue on the internet.

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berserk
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 11:37:47 PM

Funny since it s by thinking and playing with strategic behavior that i stay on top in cod games .

You can do good by not doing so but thinking it s not the case in all fps is simply being delusional .

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berserk
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 11:37:47 PM

Funny since it s by thinking and playing with strategic behavior that i stay on top in cod games .

You can do good by not doing so but thinking it s not the case in all fps is simply being delusional .

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Clamedeus
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 12:11:34 AM

You honestly don't have to think to play CoD, It's pretty simple to pick up and play. All you need to know is where people respawn, high traffic areas, cut off routes. Also use cover when engaging people, keep your body profile as small as possible when fighting.

Win/Loss Ratio: 9.49
Kill/Death Ratio: 2.39

From rushing, sometimes my play style will change depending on the situation. But I will not camp in one area or building the entire game like most people I've played against.

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Kangasfwa
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 1:20:46 AM

@ Jawkne--They think the best strategy is to run faster. Or they wait in one spot, carnival game style ;)

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Zemus101
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 2:17:01 AM

This is crazy. I've logged over 7 hours into the multiplayer, and this is exactly the experience I was hoping for. I am genuinely surprised that you guys have already found things you think are "broken" and "definitely lacking". I would understand it if say, there were constant disconnects preventing you from even playing the game.

DICE said the other day that BFBC2 was still fervently being played today. I think the quote even stated that the server population has stayed steady for the past year. Obviously they're doing something right. At least... for the gamers that enjoy a proper strategic shooter. In the 7 hours I've played, It's evident that BF3 goes above and beyond what BFBC2 did previously. I believe that's exactly what DICE set out to do.

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Jawknee
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 2:51:33 AM

Indeed Kang, what are those cheesy perks they use together that allows you to run faster and knife from an unbelievable distance MW2? LOL! Oh, that was crap.

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Ludicrous_Liam
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 3:10:03 AM

I have to put this somewhere. My K/D ratio in Uncharted 2 is 2.00. HAH!

That is more impressive than it looks when you consider just how many laggers there are in UC2. I played with Jawk once, and this is when I stopped playing because of laggers, and I swear the people we were playing with had a a tin can and a wire as an internet supply. Seriously.

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Underdog15
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 7:40:23 AM

lol, Paste, 1.30? that's above average, dude. Let me explain what I mean.

For every kill, there is a death. Which means average, in the middle, would be 1.00. Then when you consider suicides and deaths with no kills, that average drops to below 1.00. You can't have a kill without a death.

So a 1.30 K/D, while not godlike, is above average.

I'll take a teammate with a K/D over 1.00 any day. Even if they don't dominate, I know that, on average, they are helping my team more than hurting it.

You see what I'm getting at, friendo?

Of course, me and 4 of my friends are all over 2.20 in Black Ops.

It's a pick up and play game. Far too easy.

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mk ultra
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 2:21:03 PM

Jawknee: Your thinking of lightweight, marathon commando with the tactical knife pistol attachment. Yeah, that was super cheesy which is why they're removing two of those perks.

As for COD not requiring any thought or strategy. The only game mode i play is hardcore search and destroy, where you die almost instantly and don't respawn. Everyone on my team plays with the aim assist off and we have different strategies for each map. If you play with your head in the clouds you don't get very far at all, and usually get dominated by a more organized team.

I'm not saying it isn't twitch gaming, or requires the amount of strategy Battlefield does. I just thought your first statement was a little unfair, and wanted to give a differing opinion.

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maxpontiac
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 3:25:11 PM

Well Jawknee.. in all fairness, COD has some strategic elements if you play with the right people.

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shootu
Tuesday, November 01, 2011 @ 2:09:51 AM

@Jawknee "thinking or strategy" Name any shooter that you need to do this... They are all the same what ever moves point and shoot. No game will compete with COD cause you have total control. Look at all the shooter games that dont have this and are just junk... MAG, Killzone, Socom and even Battlefield. Yes Battlefield and Bad Company. Battlefield 2 was amazing on PC so why cant bring it back and put it on PS3? Best shooter ever and they cant make Battlefield 3 as good as Battlefield 2 was. WTF why not??? I wish the GTA series had COD control and not the sloppy control...

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shootu
Tuesday, November 01, 2011 @ 2:12:14 AM

Jawkee and PasteNuggs love how people put dicks in there mouths... that explains the sucking at FPS!

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oldmike
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 9:36:44 PM
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we still dont know what kind of score that MW3 will get that will be the true test
thou i seen some saying that MW3 will get good scores just on the name

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Nas Is Like
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 9:37:36 PM
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Been playing Battlefield 3, and am definitely enjoying it. However, the game seems to have multiple issues that Dice somehow seems to missed. The screen-tearing, the "connection timing out" issue and something with the gameplay just seems to be broken or lacking (for lack of better word). I can't put my finger on it.

It's a great game but definitely does not live up to the hype. This is most likely because many people overhyped it to death, making it look better than it actually was. But that's the consequences of the hype.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 9:47:02 PM

LOL! It's not broken by any means. There is nothing wrong with the game play. Anyone who is a fan of the Battlefield series will be pleased with this installment.

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Nas Is Like
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 9:48:25 PM

You seem to be confusing your opinion with fact much too often. It really does get annoying after a while.

The gameplay is not perfect.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 9:52:45 PM

I never said it was perfect. As no game is but you said it was broken. It is NOT. Who is confusing facts?

By the way, I have been playing the MP for over 2 hours now and I haven't seen a single screen tear. You speak as if the tearing breaks the game. You are exaggerating.

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Nas Is Like
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 9:55:35 PM

Saying "it's not broken by any means" pretty much implies it's perfect. At least to me.

I've been playing the MP for about 6 hours now, have had the screen tear happen at least 5 times. It really gets frustrating when it starts happening more and more frequently.

9 up, 16 down

Jawknee
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 9:59:59 PM

LOL! Are you serious? By saying something isn't broken implies it's perfect? My car isn't broken. It still gets me from A to B but it has it's imperfections like the dented bumper and rock chips. So NO, saying something is not broken does NOT imply that something is perfect. Don't be disingenuous.

And again, I think you are looking for imperfections like the tearing to back up your opinion that YOU are confusing with facts.

Don't be that pot that calls the kettle black.

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Nas Is Like
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:03:32 PM

Then let me ask you a question. If the gameplay is "not broken by any means" but it's not "perfect" either, then what issue/s do you have with it by not calling it perfect?

And the screen-tearing that I've experienced is no lie or bulls--t. It's fact. It's what happened to me. I don't have to look for it when it finds me and makes my Battlefield gameplay less enjoyable. You just seem to get defensive when someone has some criticism towards the game and you don't seem to like that. Hop off the game's nuts, and open your eyes. It has issues. Coming from someone that's been playing it for 6 hours now, I don't have a reason for making it up. I still like the game, as I said, but the issues are ruining my experience.

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PasteNuggs
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:07:19 PM

I've had zero time out issues with it and I've played three and a half hours on it. Also, this game imo is the cleanest looking multiplat game I've ever seen. The only disappointment I've had with this game is the limited destruction. I thought DICE was gonna take it to the next level, which they did in a way but I can't demolish everything like I could I BFBC2.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:17:00 PM

The controls are not as responsive as I would like them to be. When I click R3 to crouch or stand up it doesn't happen fast enough. Some of the deaths I have encountered in the SP I would call cheap. Other than that the game plays just fine. So again, the game play is not perfect nor did I ever imply or say it was. But it is NOT "broken". If the game was "broken" it would be unplayable. Why would you play a unplayable game for 6 hours?

I never said you were lying. I said you were exaggerating. Do you have a Webster's Dictionary handy? I suggest you look up the difference.

By the way, when I said I have been playing the game for over 2 hours, I just meant tonight. I played for quite some time last night too with other PSX members and still didn't notice any tearing. Which says something considering I'm a stickler when it comes to screen tearing. if the game tears 5 times in 6 hours, that seems minimal to me. Like I said, you're looking for things to complain about to fit your "the game is broken" criteria.

I don't take issue with your opinion that the game has flaws. I take issue with the fact that you said the game is broken when it clearly is not.

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Wraith
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:20:04 PM

Nas-I have also experienced a few screen-tears and countless others have also. It certainly diminishes the gameplay but hopefully it will be fixed.
Jawk- You are a bit defensive towards this game but I understand how overhype has raised expectations.
Paste-I agree, the destruction is definitely lacking but its still enjoyable because some destruction is better than no destruction.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:22:01 PM

For the love of Heaven...

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Jawknee
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:30:53 PM

Not being overly defensive. I just don't like it when people exaggerate. When someone says something is broken when it's not I'm going to call them out. A broken game doesn't receive an average 85% Metacritic score and a 9/10 from PSX among other publications.

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Nas Is Like
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:51:39 PM

You're taking what I said too literally. If you go back to my original post, you'll see that I said the following: "something with the gameplay just seems to be broken or lacking (for lack of better word)". Did you stop reading the rest of the sentence as soon as I mentioned "broken"? It sure seems that way.

I agree, the controls aren't as responsive as I'd like them to be either. The gameplay can seem too slow at times.

But anyway, I find it sad how defensive you get over a video game. Why don't you get some fresh air and calm down, huh?

8 up, 10 down

Clamedeus
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:57:09 PM

How is a game broken if the game works? I don't get it. If the game was indeed broken I don't think you would even be able to play the damn thing.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 11:06:53 PM

"You're taking what I said too literally."

So do words not mean what they are supposed to mean in your world? If you say something is broken, than what else am I supposed to think it means other than you think its broken? It's not my fault you weren't able to articulate yourself. Have you found that Webster's yet? They publish a great thesaurus too.

You find it sad not because I am defending a game but because I called out your nonsensical claims that you still haven't been able to effectively articulate beyond insults and putting words in peoples mouths. I'm sad because I am defending BF against your exaggerations yet here you are....still arguing with me. Talk about irony indeed.

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berserk
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 11:53:05 PM

"something with the gameplay just seems to be broken or lacking (for lack of better word)"

Ya , people seem to have stopped reading after broken .

I would also have a hard time explaining how i feel about the gameplay . .It s not broken but there is definitely something lacking .

The more i think about it the more i see that what s lacking is responsive control .Defientely something about how it flows from one action to the next .

P.s if you did nt tried tdm yet i would suggest you try it ( can only find them on quick matches tho ) . TDM is a weird mix of both tdm and dm in one .Luckily it s a weird mix that work .

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Clamedeus
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 11:59:07 PM

He should of just said "lacking" instead of broken, because if it was broken nothing would work. Lacking would of been a better choice of words to use.

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xenris
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 12:07:09 PM

I have put a good amount of time into the games multiplayer and I will tell you what you can't put your finger on.

Nas if you play lots of CoD you must be used to CoDs unbelievable amount of aim assist that helps you play the game. The aim assist in BF games are toned down a little, although not as much as they should be. MAG still has my favourite shooting mechanics. Less aim assist will make the game feel less responsive because the game isn't holding your hand, and doesn't snap to targets as easily.

Also the frame rate is 30 instead of 60 which is the fps of CoD. Which makes it different not better or worse. Lower locked frames make the game a bit slower and less twitch based requiring you to be a bit more tactical. Not to say that being awesome at twitch games means you lack tactical prowess. This is coming from an ex competitive PC gamer that specialized in twitch shooters.

Nas if a game isn't broken and not perfect what is it? I would call something like that a good game wouldn't you? I'm surprised at the black and white mentality. There are shades in between broken and perfect my goodness. The reason people ignored when you wrote lacking was because you said broken or lacking for lack of a better word. You should have just said, something feels off to me.

As for my complaints with the game? The squad system needs a lot of work. Have the time we set up a squad it puts us in a full server on opposite teams which is BS,and my friend sometimes gets caught in a weird limbo screen when I revive him and he has to disconnect.

So thats what I have found to be wrong with it, but those will all be patched so I'm not even concerned about it.

Jawk I agree with most of your points but your posts did come off a tad defensive at some points.

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AcHiLLiA
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 2:21:50 PM

@Nas

Their is going to be patches in the future.

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shootu
Tuesday, November 01, 2011 @ 2:23:22 AM

@Jawknee Have you even played Battlefield 3??? Its full of bugs and LOTS wrong with it. You should try playing before you start talking $hit cause you look stupid.

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PSTan
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 9:50:25 PM
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BF3 was overhyped to the extreme. Fantastic as it is (been playing it for a while now), I think most people can agree that, in a way, it didn't live up to some of the promises it made. Not hating, just being realistic now that the game is out.

As for MW3, reviews are gonna be the factor that sways me to buy the game. Unlike most, I don't suffer from COD fatigue yet cuz I skip every other year's game. But like most, there are so many other games that I wanna play, so MW3 is gonna have to stand out in a special way.

Next week though, I'm going to be sucked into the world of Uncharted 3, both offline and online, for a long time. If anyone is interested in organizing a PSXE clan (I mentioned this in an earlier article), feel free to add me: Tan61593 and we can work things out.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 9:54:40 PM

Of course not. When stuff is hyped up as much as BF3 was, it never lives up to the hype. The game is still not "broken" or flawed like some people here would like us to believe.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:32:15 PM

I should recant...the game obviously has flaws. Slip of the fingers. Just not "game breaking" flaws.

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PSTan
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 11:16:37 PM

Jawknee,

I never said the game was "broken". I just stated how it didn't live up to our expectations 100%.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 11:30:58 PM

I didn't meant to accuse you of saying it was broken. I was referring to the comments above. Apologies if you thought I was accusing you. I should have clarified that in my original post.

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PasteNuggs
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 9:58:27 PM
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I never thought BF3 was gonna take a giant chunk from COD. I believe COD will kill itself overtime. I remember last year how Activision kept announcing how preorders for BO were higher than MW2 at the same time the year before. I don't here that this year.

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rogers71
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:32:17 PM

You may not be hearing it now but I bet it will come out soon. I went into my local Gamestop to pick up Batman last week and they asked me if I wanted to preorder MW3. I told the guy I didn't want to right then.
He then told me that they had 530 preorders just at that store. The other 2 area stores had over 600 at this time last week. I would say sales are gonna be through the roof.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:33:38 PM

530 preorders? I'm in the wrong business.

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PasteNuggs
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:42:40 PM

ya they announced numerous times throughout last year how it was surpassing MW2 numbers. I don't think MW3 will outsell BO. I have been wrong before though so what do I know.

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slugga_status
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 9:01:23 AM

MW3 is at roughly 2.8 million pre-orders right now. With the lions share of those pre-orders coming on the 360. PS3 pre-orders haven't even cracked the one million mark. The game is going to sell like crazy...wait and see approach for me though..

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:24:17 PM
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The real question is, how will Modern Warfare 3's scores be "adjusted" to compensate when considering critics already overrate it and will just prefer the name over Battlefield in their minds.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:28:13 PM

It will probably score around the same as MW2. The only reason Blops scored lower was because it had some major flaws when it released. Especially on the PS3.

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Alienange
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:37:29 PM
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If they were eating into CoD's share then we would see CoD sales numbers dropping. But we don't. We see quite the opposite.

The only market they eat into is the CoD haters market. Where a seemingly large number of hopefuls try out all manner of different fps hoping to find that one game that they can point to as the CoD killer.

Sadly for EA, those haters have chosen BF3 and have flocked to EA blowing smoke up their ass making them think they've got a shot at it. Now all we hear from EA is how they're "eating away" at the predominant fps of this gen. What do they have? Bad Company, Medal of Honor, and now Battlefield 3? CoD killers? Really? You go EA! Meanwhile, I've got good games to play.

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aaronisbla
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 1:15:38 AM

have you even tried the game? or is this more of your hate for anything EA?

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Jawknee
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 1:30:04 AM

Alienage, Bad Company was great. Medal of Honor...eh...BF3, even better than Bad Company. You just keep pretending you know more than those of us who have actually played the games you love to hate. It totally lends credibility to your arguments and criticisms.

...oh wait, no it doesn't.

@Aaron, he hasn't played it. He did this crap when Bad Company 2 came out as well.

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slugga_status
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 9:05:55 AM

I can't speak for BF3 as I haven't played it just seen it in action at a friends house. What I will say is the term "CoD killer" needs to be better defined. If you're talking about sales then no, no FPS is going to sale more copies.

If you're talking about gameplay then we've already had CoD killer, you need to not look to far from Killzone 2 & 3.

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Underdog15
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 9:47:58 AM

Don't bother guys. He won't even reply after getting owned. I think he's proven his inadequacy in the past few months. Just treat him as you would good ol' blankline.

Entertaining and good for alternative points of view. Certainly a benefit to this community. But don't expect any well thought out arguments to challenge your own points of view.

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Alienange
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 3:06:31 PM

Not sure why you would assume that Jawknee. I don't see you here anywhere on my PSN friend's list. Would be great though. Playing BC2 with you. You can walk me around and show me what's so great about it as long as you also afford me the opportunity to show you what's wrong with it.

@ Underdog15 - There you go again, more personal attacks. Something I believe is supposed to be forbidden here in the comments section of PSXE. But you know what, I don't take any offense.

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aaronisbla
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 7:42:11 PM

you ignored my question: Have YOU played this game? and better yet, if you have BC2, add me, aaronisbla on psn, so we can play some games since you claim you have it.

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H0TSHELLZ
Friday, October 28, 2011 @ 8:25:49 AM

Im playing BF3 right now and i dont like the clunky and slow moving gameplay of a BF game(to me MoH was a better MP experience) but i do love the content and what your able to do as far as vehicles and aircraft. COD has way better gameplay and is PERFECT (IMO) but i know a lot of people dont agree (YOUR NAME HERE) because all great things are HATED. I know you will bring up MCdonalds burger compared to a MORE Gourmet burger, but when talking about a VIDEO GAME that has the same price as other FPS games.......its NOT valid. THE SIMPLE FACT IS COD SELLS MORE BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE LIKE IT MORE AND KNOW ITS A BETTER GAME. Numbers do NOT LIE in entertainment, plain and simple.

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tes37
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 10:53:48 PM
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EA picked up a new customer with my purchase. I will not buy COD for any reason. EA should focus on new customers instead of digging in Activision's garbage can. EA may have blown an opportunity, but there's a chance next time to correct things.

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AcHiLLiA
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 2:30:12 PM

exactly, there is plenty of time to correct things.

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shootu
Tuesday, November 01, 2011 @ 2:28:44 AM

Wow I guess some people like buying junk that doesnt work...

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Clamedeus
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 11:22:04 PM
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Gah! I'm going to have to wait until Christmas to get BF3.. All my friends are playing it, except 1. My friend uploaded a video with some of my other friends as well in the video and it looks like a lot of fun.

In the video my friend was saying; "I need ammo!" I muttered in a soft voice "If I was there I could give it to you".. I'm a sad panda..

I love playing Battlefield with friends it's awesome. Especially if you have a good strategy and everything works fine always communicating what the enemy is doing etc. It's a great feeling working as a team. Have a Sniper hanging in the back when we get far enough he would move to a different spot preferably at a high vantage point near foliage and call targets out. It's basically shooting fish in a barrel. :p

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Jawknee
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 11:32:17 PM

Indeed. If you have a good Squad and can get into that flow, you can own the map.

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Clamedeus
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 11:56:12 PM

Indeed, it's especially awesome to out smart the opponent. :) They will think you are in the same area and you set up an ambush, if you are on defense. It's hilarious some of the stuff that happens though.

On offense on Bad Company 2 the map where the light house is, not sure what that map is called but, the beginning of the game there was 5 people behind the M-com station my buddy flew me in low on the right side of the river i dropped out i had the M249-SAW I came on the side of the team and mowed them down, was hilarious. And there was a Sniper in a Ghillie suit who came up from behind me, he shot at me, i did like a run jump but fast, I turned around doing a 180 and I put 6 bullets into his chest killing him I was so close to dieing my friend seen it he was surprised.

And we all laughed, I mean I was literally about to die with one more shot and somehow I managed to turn on him. I love that feeling, they think they have you and somehow you pull a miracle out of the cereal box.

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FxTales
Wednesday, October 26, 2011 @ 11:55:39 PM
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Doing that wouldn't be easy, COD reigns supreme for their genre. Will be interested to see reviews. Especially gamespot.

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berserk
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 12:14:19 AM
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I only bought it because i got 2 friends playing it . Without them i would not have bought it .

It s just so close to cod release , next time they should try and release it a couple of months before the next COD game .Only then it will truly have a chance to take a chunk of the cod fanbase .

Why buy bf3 if you have only 2 week to wait for the better fps ( fact in the mind of a cod fan ).

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Jawknee
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 12:17:36 AM

Because CoD isn't the better FPS.

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berserk
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 12:40:45 AM
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Depends on you re playstyle , to me COD is better because there is no other game where i can take on 3-4 people and end up the only one alive on several occasion( yeah , i like to be up close and personal ) .

P,s before you say or think anything know that i always go for capture and help people ( play medic/assault )when i can .

Last edited by berserk on 10/27/2011 12:46:07 AM

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berserk
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 12:50:24 AM

My edit is gone :( Anyway , last part was about when i play bf3 .The fun about bf games is all about teamplay after all .

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Jawknee
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 12:52:24 AM

If you prefer that kind of game play I can see what you are saying. In terms of overall quality though, I just find CoD lacking compared to BF. MW1 was great as were some of the CoD's prior. The franchises started to go down hill after that in my opinion. World at War was just okay and MW2 felt like a cut and paste job of MW1 with worse sound. Black Ops was its own mess when it came out. MW3 looks a little better but the controls the way they are and the refusal of IW to improve the graphics, I can't see myself playing it let alone buying it.

The main thing that attracts me to BF is the requirement for a good strategy, teamwork and the superb audio. Same reasons I love Killzone 3's multiplayer so much.

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slugga_status
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 9:08:45 AM

"to me COD is better because there is no other game where i can take on 3-4 people and end up the only one alive on several occasion"

Have you not played Killzone 3?

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berserk
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 1:36:33 AM
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That s too bad ( not buying part ) since to me , mw3 look to have improved everything ( balance issues mostly ).

"The main thing that attracts me to BF is the requirement for a good strategy, teamwork and the superb audio. Same reasons I love Killzone 3's multiplayer so much."

Would nt say it s a requirement since you can do good without those but it s definitely much more rewarding playing with teamwork in mind compared to cod games .

P.s Perfect game = cod 1 united offensive (best of both world ) .

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___________
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 1:50:59 AM
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no, they were never trying to eat away at antivisions market share with BF3, that would be impossible to do it with one game!
there trying to do it with battlefield one year then MoH another year, have yearly iterations and use thoes to try win back some fans.
im really enjoying BF3 so far, after spending 13 f*cking hours, no thats not a joke, 13 f*cking hours trying to get the game to work im really enjoying it!
only 1 complaint so far.
enemy in closed room and 2 explosive barrels behind him.
i shoot said explosive barrels behind him through the window, they explode killing him, going through the solid wall without damaging the wall and killing me.
WTF!?
another time there was 2 enemies one standing on each side of a explosive barrel.
i shoot said barrel, one dies, the other goes flying but is still alive.
myself though died.
WTF?
hes standing right f*cking next to it and it does not kill him, im several meters away and im dead.
WTF?
how does that work!?
talk about random!

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79transam
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 2:07:59 AM
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My observations after 3 hrs of MP play tonight
1. Games will get better once the COD players leave
2. No screen tearing for me
3. Hit detection is fine
4. Tried to knife somebody at a weird angle through a tight space and it didnt work, that was nice to see.
5. Maps are nice, vehicles are tougher to control which I think is nice
6. Graphics are the best FPS MP I have seen on the PS3
7. Mic's could use some tweaking
8. Did loose connection twice after a round had finished

Not much else I can think of at this moment currently id rate the MP at a 9.25 for me. I wish they still had the ability to compare stats with your friends like you could in BFBC2.

As far as taking market shares from COD I could maybe see COD losing at most 5% but more of that will be due to it being a tired franchise and glorified map pack. BF3 is awesome but it's impossible for any game to live up to the hype that was generated for it.

I look at it this way BF3 is The Beatles or Stones and COD is Lady GaGa and Katy perry. GaGa and Perry will win the popularity contest and sell more but when it comes to content they are lacking (though in perrys case quite nice to look at)

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Jawknee
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 2:57:00 AM

"6. Graphics are the best FPS MP I have seen on the PS3"

Have you played Killzone 2 or 3 online? Those are some beastly graphics as well.

"I look at it this way BF3 is The Beatles or Stones and COD is Lady GaGa and Katy perry. GaGa and Perry will win the popularity contest and sell more but when it comes to content they are lacking (though in perrys case quite nice to look at)"

LOL! I love it. Or BF3 is a gourmet burger from the Cheesecake Factory and CoD is a BigMac.

Last edited by Jawknee on 10/27/2011 2:58:35 AM

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79transam
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 6:11:45 AM

Have not played KZ 2 or 3 online and I think your comparison is better then mine.

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BIGRED15
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 5:59:08 PM

No way in Hell its gonna cut too deep into cod. In fact I see more people wanting both than one or the other. This is what I've gathered:
The campaign is a bit underrated. It's a B- story but an A- as far as spectacle goes. I finished it yesterday clocking at around 8 hrs or so. I was actually challenged quite a bit at parts but worked thru it. The campaign is terrible? Not convinced, considering its better at least imo than kz2 for example.

I really dug into the online yesterday. Everything runs great and only one screen tear to speak of. I can't stand the snipers already. I think its the weakest of the classes because for some reason people who play as sniper only care about kills and don't give a damn about their other more important functions or contributing to the team. So with a squad full of scrub snipers, the one man wolf pack mentality kicks in and then I start getting worked. I love being medic the most and I think the other 2 classes I've mentioned are equally as great.

So as u all can probably tell most of my complaints are with players not the game, and rightfully so. Last thing I gotta put out there. WHY WON'T PEOPLE JUST GUARD THE EFFING MCOM!!!

Last edited by BIGRED15 on 10/27/2011 6:00:34 PM

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Excelsior1
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 3:01:08 AM
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oppurtuniity missed? perhaps, but the 2 games play so differently. i'm not entirely sure bf3 ever was a serious threat to cod. depsite that bf3 was getting a lot of hype from the gaming media mw3 preorders were still insane... i still think it will take a reallly bad cod game from activision before you see any drop in popularity in that series.

i had no idea r3 only sold 180,000 copies. no wonder insomiac is a multiplatform company now. i did predict that game was going to bomb though. you could just tell there was absolutely zero buzz about that game. why? fps fatigue?

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Bloodysilence19
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 3:50:40 AM
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I'm liking Bf3 and enjoying a lot compared to cod has been in years. Mp of Bf3 is defiantly a worthy competitor to Cod mp, but getting that cod community to come over to bf3 and actually stick with it after Mw3 comes out, is a different story. Cod community are just to afraid of change, when fps like bf3 or killzone, etc.. tries to bring down cod and improve/invent things that cod cant seem to do right anymore.

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Zubair
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 4:14:31 AM
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BF3 has a disppointing single player campaign for offline players whereas MW3 caters for both off and online, single and multi player experiences.

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79transam
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 9:48:37 AM

I thought the BF3 single player campaign was better then BlackOps by far, better then MW2, and on par with MW1

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D1g1tal5torm
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 5:46:56 AM
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Whatever the debates here about grammar, and that's not EXACTLY what I said blah, blah...

EA have definitely missed the ball, they needed to release a game with the production level of uncharted to even think about wrestling the market share from Cod.

Love it or hate - CoD WILL surpass BF.

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D1g1tal5torm
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 8:13:54 AM

Lol - someone can't handle the truth.

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D1g1tal5torm
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 10:02:46 AM

Defo cant handle it.

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DazeOfWar
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 7:30:57 AM
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All I care about is how much I love the game. I think it looks amazing on my TV and plays great just like I expected.

I think some of the low scores and haters out there are just hardcore COD fans and don't want BF3 to be better.

Overall I'm very happy with the game and I won't be giving COD my money this year.

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jimmyhandsome
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 10:25:10 AM
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I honestly don't think review scores matter when it comes to Battlefield vs. Call of Duty. Modern Warfare 3 could average a 7.8 and it'll still break sales records. Battlefield 3 could've gotten 9.8s, and it'll still play second fiddle by a wide margin. Call of Duty has the brand recognition that is hard to compete with. EA should've done a better job with Medal of Honor last year and this year Battlefield 3 might've stood a chance to CoD. At least in my opinion.

As for me I'm probably going to wait on 1 or both of these titles. There are simply way too many games coming out this time of year. And Uncharted 3 will be eating up most of my time beginning next week.

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Excelsior1
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 2:33:15 PM

i agree with that. i think critics sometimes like to over estimate their overall impact. the gaming industry is littered with many highly scored games that did not sell at all. i highly doubt that even if bf3 got perfect scores it would change the situation much. i don't believe in perfect scores as i have yet to play a perfect game by the way.

again the two games play so differently i'm not so sure your average cod fan would take to bf3. plus there is the social aspect of cod that makes it a tough nut to crack so to speak. people buy it to play with their friends. i dare say that game and series would be totally immune to review scores of other games.

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Jutter
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 6:10:57 PM
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CoD is not a great or a good game but it is that very same CoD user base that DICE is trying to bite into that causes this. Every time you play CoD you run into kill whores and just plain poor sports that only play the game for bragging rights to a K/D ratio or in MW2's case to a total number of nukes. It's just this that makes me cringe at buying the new CoD even though I know I'm going to pick it up. I'd be glad if BF3 didn't take that big of a chunk of the CoD fans even though I already know that they did.

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Lairfan
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 8:45:47 PM
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Honestly, I don't think at this point that BF3 will sell more than MW3, but its still gonna sell huge. 10 million + at least, just from preorder numbers and the gigantic amount of buzz. As far as I'm concerned, that takes a HUGE bite into CoD's empire. And if they keep doing this over time (which is what their plan to release Battlefield one year, MoH the next is for), they'll win this FPS war.

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azarel_7
Sunday, October 30, 2011 @ 10:39:40 AM
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Both are good games, but personally I find MW2 a little easier simply because 1) The aiming is easier: you can pick guys off from pretty far distances stage with some of the regular assault rifles 2) You don't die as quickly, unless you're knifed, or hit with the FAMAS or M-16 3) You respawn almost instantaneously, so you're right back into the action. This can be good or bad, sometimes though.

BF3, obviously the bullet damage is higher and long range aiming is harder, and you have to be a little more disciplined about staying behind cover etc. but these facts, plus the graphics, plus how big the stages are just make it seem more realistic, more mature almost...mature may be the wrong word...but there is an element of realism to BF 3 that makes it more difficult than MW2. It requires a little bit more patience. That may not be for everyone though.

So when I want a challenge, I'll play BF3, when I just want to have a little fun and am looking to unwind, I'll play MW2. I find that after playing BF3, MW 2 seems so much easier..its like coming from a simulator to an arcade game Just my opinion tho...not knocking either game..

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