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MW3 And Skyrim: Biggest Contrast In Gaming History?

Both Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 and The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim launch this week and you know, a bigger contrast may not exist in gaming.

While one is the epitome of "twitch gaming" and emphasizes fast, ceaseless action without much in the way of patience and strategy, the other is all about taking your time and immersing yourself in a gigantic fantasy world. Of course, from a simplistic viewpoint, one is a straightforward FPS and the other is an in-depth hardcore RPG.

But isn't this exactly the kind of thing that makes video games exciting? Sure, one is gonna be vastly more popular than the other, but it's not really a fair comparison. And besides, Skyrim is bound to sell several million copies; the fans are already clamoring for its release. The bottom line is that both will be popular, both will have an ardent following, and both are satisfying in completely different ways. I also think it'd be interesting to learn that a great many gamers will play both titles; diverse tastes isn't uncommon in this growing industry.

Such a contrast should help to curb the bitterness of those who feel shooters are taking over, or the mainstream is killing hardcore gaming. It doesn't get more hardcore than Skyrim and let's not forget about Dark Souls, which has also proven popular. The bottom line is that on Friday, a title that might be the complete opposite of MW3 launches, and it'll still grab plenty of headlines and generate lots of sales.

Personally, I think that's a win for the industry.

Related Game(s): The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3

Tags: the elder scrolls v, skyrim, mw3, modern warfare 3, call of duty

11/9/2011 9:12:25 PM Ben Dutka

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Highlander
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 9:35:24 PM
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"I also think it'd be interesting to learn that a great many gamers will play both titles; diverse tastes isn't uncommon in this growing industry."

What about those that will play neither?

*posted from my bunker outside the mainstream...

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 10:02:50 PM

Those folks deprive themselves of excellence at their peril. I'd never call an Elder Scrolls game mainstream, you need to have a hardened constitution for it.

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Oxvial
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 11:29:33 PM

Actually not, just time I never found those game challenging.

Now Ghouls and Ghost, you really need to be hard in order to not rage quit.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 11:29:37 PM

Ah, but the question is- can Skyrim be considered "mainstream?" ;)

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Highlander
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 1:27:04 AM

If it's selling to millions, it has a pretty decent shot at being called mainstream in my book.

The point though, as it was in the post about MW3, is that variety is the spice of life, and despite the millions upon millions buying into MW3 and the however many that buy Skyrim, there is still a very sizable gamer population not buying into either.

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ImTheMan
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 4:22:27 AM

Yep two great games for two completely different ends of the spectrum.

@Highlander: ot I was looking at the article about PS3 sales maybe surpassing the 360 and I wanted to ask you, how do you know that Microsoft counts refurbished units shipped as actual units shipped? I've been looking all over for that. Thanks in advance.

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Oxvial
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 4:37:55 AM

The numbers of sales aren't going to be MW3 for sure but is a game that can be played by the casual, unless they are rabid shooting frantics that hate read xD.

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Highlander
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 10:16:22 AM

@ImTheMan,

I'll have to dig up a link for you, it's been a while since I read the confirmation of that, and I don't typically keep links, but I will dig it up and post it when I get it.

Well, this link at Joystiq (for example) refers to Sony talking of sales rather than shipped units (as both competitors do), so that is one reference point for you;

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/11/02/ps3-catching-up-with-xbox-360-shipments-worldwide/2

Good lord googles new algorithms suck. I can't find half the articles I've read on this subject. What it comes down to is a combination of two things. Both Sony and Microsoft count units differently, prior to 2007, Sony counted units shipped from the factory to distribution, just as MS still does. Sony changed to count only units sold & shipped to retailers, not units sitting unpaid for in the distribution channel. Microsoft still counts units shipped to distribution. The media generally quotes these numbers from the respective annual reports and calls them unit sales, but they are not. When I can find the articles I have read previously, I will link them here

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ImTheMan
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 4:55:11 PM

Ok thanks!

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Oxvial
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 9:37:19 PM
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Dark Souls would made that contrast more evident.

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friction
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 9:45:36 PM

Especially since soe didn't want to fund them, with the expectations that it wouldn't sell. Bet they're kicking themselves for that one

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Oxvial
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 10:07:39 PM

Yep it did good that they didn't have enough CE for the demand it got.

Game is a LOT more hard than Demons Souls in that one I barely died in this.. Jesus Christ I sure died at least 50 times, but is pretty awesome xD, fortunately looks like that didn't scare much people.

Of course I can see why Ben put Skyrim, people are more hyped to that one and even if I find it boring as heck and something I can beat with one hand.. that franchise is more important than the Souls games.

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sirbob6
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 9:45:08 PM
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It is good to see the industry catering to many different taste with so many high quality games coming out seemingly constantly.

I'll pick up Skyrim when I complete Dark Souls on NG+++ and CoD, well, never.

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Raze22
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 9:51:38 PM

Is that Seras Victoria from hellsing?

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sirbob6
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 9:52:12 PM

Yes sir

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cLoudou
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 9:48:59 PM
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Playing neither of those.

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kokoro
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 11:26:22 PM

L, I thought you died?

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Condemnedsoul23
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 10:01:58 PM
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On Friday I'm getting Lego Harry Potter years 5-7, does that count? That's the only one I'm excited about playing.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 10:03:41 PM

That's...sad.

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cLoudou
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 10:04:04 PM

I'm getting Deathly Hallows part 2...Seriously.

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Oxvial
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 10:10:36 PM

Dunno dude, I heard the Lego games are actually pretty good but I never tried.

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Beamboom
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 5:04:41 AM

The Lego games *are* good, in a very classic platformer style kind of way. Their main problem is that they all seem to be built on the same engine and are very, very similar to each other, so at least I got enough of them at some stage. But they are good.

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thj_1980
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 10:11:41 PM
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People have been waiting 6 years for skyrim on the xbox 360 and pc. So it is going to definatly be a big deal!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 10:16:29 PM

Ya gotta respect a game franchise that actually improves upon itself.

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Geobaldi
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 10:35:16 PM

Well 5 1/2 years, but who's counting? ;)

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Killa Tequilla
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 10:19:16 PM
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sorry about that ben, was drunk, but hey i got arrested :)

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jimmyhandsome
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 10:50:46 PM

LOL

Mama dukes must be proud

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 10:25:12 PM
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I think Final Fantasy XIII and all other Final Fantasies would be the biggest contrast.

Friday can't come soon enough, I got my energy drinks lined up and ready to go. It's about time for an epic big world adventure Mothafackaaas!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 10:29:47 PM
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Okay I've just been informed that MW3 has suicide dog bombers. I now hate it with all of my soul.

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thj_1980
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 11:05:31 PM

Haha LOL!!

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kokoro
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 11:24:29 PM

I literally laughed out loud at that (suicide dog bombers).

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Shams
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 6:11:45 AM

Hated those things in Ninja Gaiden.

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Dreno
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 10:35:39 PM
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I..... will be one of the ( prolly many ) playing both.... here soon.

I recently scored my self a much better job than my current fast food employment. Ill be gettin roughly a 4 dollar raise with the new job, taking me to 11.50 ph, and soon after that 12 ph. I know its not too much, but it beats the HELL outta minimum wage. Anyways...

Ill be buying both games sometime in the near future, along with getting some internet. So I will finally be able to make it to the psxe shows in home again. And I will finally be able to game online again.

But ill be getting skyrim before mw3, just throwin that out there.

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CrusaderForever
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 10:55:52 PM

Congrats! I mean that :)

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Beamboom
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 7:29:20 AM

Congrats! New jobs are a Good Thing.

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Deleted User
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 10:40:35 PM
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Maybe I will buy Skyrim on Steam someday. I have no time for it right now.

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jimmyhandsome
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 10:51:48 PM
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I'll get both....at some point. Still playing Uncharted 3 and The Ico Collection.....and I want to get Batman and Rage still. Probably going to wait until Black Friday and grab a few games off of Amazon. They usually have ridiculous deals.

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Beamboom
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 5:06:49 AM

Oh man Play had an awesome deal on Rage last tuesday I think it was, but lasted one day only. £17.99, that would be around 25 USD I think? So I am waiting for my Rage in the post any day now.

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CrusaderForever
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 10:52:01 PM
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I will be playing both that's for sure. I just finished up a 2 hour stint that brought me from level 8 to 18! Loving MW3!

But, I am crying at this moment as I have made a conscious decision to wait until Tuesday 11/15 to buy Skyrim from KMart, sniff, sniff. They are having a buy 1 get one 50% off. I also have a $20 gaming coupon. So that will be 2 games for $70. Could be $55 if KMart would send me my $15 gaming coupon for inconvenience.

I am really leaning towards getting SR3!! Looks so good, that I am thinking the Wife will be fine with the purchase. But missing out on Skyrim for almost 6 days is cry/fetal position worthy! :(

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thj_1980
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 11:06:36 PM

MW3 to me has a very good feel to the multiplayer extremely smooth compared to black ops. However black ops will still remain my favourite until i beat the mw3 campaign and spend more time in multipler and spec ops.

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shadowscorpio
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 10:58:29 PM
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Well I've never gotten into these two game franchises much but man, the production values of these two games is really impresses me.

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kokoro
Wednesday, November 09, 2011 @ 11:33:30 PM
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Tomb Raider 2 just came out on the PSN store (Australia) so I'm definitely playing that once my exams are over.

I remember being a kid and going to toys R us to pick up a playstation game for my birthday. I wanted so desperately to get tomb raider 2, but being the goody-two-shoes I was, I alerted my parents to the M15+rating on the cover of the game, to make sure it was ok with them. Once they saw the rating, they wouldn't buy it for me, so I ended up getting Mickey's Wild adventures. It was pretty sh*tastic.

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Beamboom
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 5:07:31 AM

Haha - that's a sweet story!

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Shams
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 6:16:15 AM

Rated 15+ for Lara's t*ts. And for shooting creepy-crawlies, and stuff.

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R3ZR
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 2:37:28 AM
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ive already picked up Skyrim today :) yes its thursday but the EB games i go to know me well and well gave it to me when i went in today to check my preorders..i have MW3 as well..but on the other hand both these games are taking a back seat to UNCHARTED3 right now :)

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___________
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 3:10:33 AM

dude, its not because they know you well harvey norman started selling it early this morning so everyone followed suit.
not surprising, i cant remember the last time a game that was due on a friday actually released on a friday!
i mean the only 3 games due on a friday this year, skyrim, LA Noire and DNF all ended up releasing on thursday.

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___________
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 3:08:41 AM
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things like that happen all the time!
ACR and saints row the third coming out next tuesday for instance.
ended up picking up skyrim today.
i was not going to get it but uncharted 3 was such a disappointment i need something to keep me occupied till ACR releases.

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CrusaderForever
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 6:29:33 AM

What!? Some times I cannot tell if you are being serious or joking. Did you just say you were disappointed with Uncharted 3 Drake's Deception? It's fine if you were but I am just really surprised since it was the best of the series IMHO. What didn't you like about it?

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___________
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 8:16:25 AM

as ive said a billion times, set pieces were toned down too much.
level design felt a step backwards too.
all the levels in uncharted 2 were so much fun where this they did not feel as well designed.
i missed the platforming puzzles too theres not many puzzles where you have to leap across the room like there was in uncharted 2.
most here are grab this block move it here, or walk in a specific path.
mainly the levels spoiled it for me though, i really enjoyed especially the tibet level where you first meet elana.
and the 2 puzzles where you have to first line up the arms of the elephant statue, then the last one where you have to line up the blades of the massive dagger.

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Shams
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 2:25:58 PM

Set pieces were cranked up big time, both in quantity and scale, so much so, that I was thinking I was reaching the grande finale, until I reach the next scene. Yup, this continued halfway through the game. The nitpicks about the game length didn't help, because I kept on anticipating the end every time.

Level design I agree a bit, except for the obvious exceptions, such as the crazy levels I won't give away, and the mp maps.

Puzzles were less trivial, but quicker, causing less downtime.

MP was definitely cranked up.

Each entry in the franchise has a different focus and strength. Hard to tell which one I like the best. So, I'm glad I have all of 'em.

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Axe99
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 5:01:09 AM
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Great article :). Deffo agree that this week's releases are a win for the industry, and instead of seeing two similar titles going up against each other (which happens far too often), it's great to see such variety :). Will be playing both, got a loaner on MW3 for this weekend, and from what I've seen so far will buy it later, then Skyrim in Jan/Feb when things have settled down (and plenty of BF3 and UC3 in there as well). It's a _really_ great time in gaming - heaps of variety (sometimes it needs looking for, and it's not all on one platform) and quality through the roof :).

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ulsterscot
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 6:03:06 AM
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MW3,BF3 multiplayer and UC3 campaign will keep me busy till xmas - I think the next RPG i buy will be ME3 rather than Skyrim.

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Beamboom
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 7:24:04 AM
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Have you guys SEEN the Skyrim reviews starting to tick in at gamerankings right now?! We are talking about a metarating of 93-94 after the 12 first reviews across all platforms!

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Underdog15
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 9:03:49 AM

Yeah, that's excellent! It will definitely end around 9.0, though. After all the real reviewers post theirs up, the hit mongers will come out in plenty for their contrast contribution.

I call them, "The Meta-Humblers".

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Beamboom
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 9:51:20 AM

Yeah that always happen, but still... Counting 37 reviews now, still hovering around 94!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 10:15:26 AM

Not surprised at all. My review is coming later today. ;)

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Beamboom
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 1:42:58 PM

... 48 reviews now and the average is *rising*.

Looking forward to read *everything* about this game, Ben! Don't hold back, keep the words flowing. Well, except spoilers. :)

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___________
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 8:20:49 AM
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glad i picked up skyrim so far, the graphics may not be that good, actually pretty poor especially texture resolution.
but my god is the world beautiful!
puts a massive smile on my face when the sun goes down, you can see a massive moon,stars glittering in the sky and wolves howling.
and water slowly trickling in the background.
better more alive world then RDR!
shame the combat feels so shallow!
i wish we could have a game of the witcher 2s combat in the world of skyrim, the environment, the artistic flair is just beautiful!!!!!!
allot of developers have trouble making a games world feel alive.
well, actually no games really done that.
until now!
so cool how you can look up and see the glistening stars, then see a shooting star fly past and see the reflective colours in the sky.

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Neo_Aeon666
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 9:03:51 AM
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*Sure, one is gonna be vastly more popular than the other, but it's not really a fair comparison*

Yeah, if I had to make a comparison. CoD is junk food. There is alot of it, it tastes good, it has mass appeal but eating it too much isn't that good.

And Skyrim would be more of a fancy dinner you get once in a while. Not as many people eat those but each time you do... It's a delight for both the belly and the mind.

I started gaming alot with junk food, then I found myself looking for those fancy dinners once in a while :D So yeah thats how I see it lol. Maybe at some point all those CoD players will start to want more from a video game and follow the same curve :D That would be nice.

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Teddie9
Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ 3:29:00 PM
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SKYRIM !!!!!! :D

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mousekiks
Saturday, November 12, 2011 @ 3:30:20 AM
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I love having the dichotomy of both games. Skyrim has been taking up more of my time surprisingly since I'm a big FPS fan. It's nice to switch between both games, but I hate having to put down either of them...maybe I should clone myself.

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