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Bethesda On Skyrim Bugs: Calm Down, We're Working On It

Okay, so the game has a few of those common open-world Bethesda issues we've seen in the past.

But they never really detracted from my enjoyment of The Elder Scrolls: Skyrim, even if others got annoyed. The good news for the irritated group is that Bethesda is currently working on a patch for all versions of the masterful RPG.

If you check the Twitter page for Vice President of PR and Marketing Pete Hines, you'll see that the developers aren't ignoring you. But patches take time.

"We are continuing to work on an update for all platforms to address any bugs and perf issues we can, patches/updates take a little time. We can't turn it around quite that fast. It's been three days. Calm down. We're working on it."

So we don't know when the update will arrive but really, do people need to complain so bitterly about an obviously awesome experience? I'm not a fan of glitches, either, but I'm not about to get in a big snit just because there are a few small - possibly comedic - bugs. The game rules. So I agree with Hines: just take it easy and calm down.

Related Game(s): The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

Tags: skyrim, the elder scrolls v, skyrim patch, bethesda

11/15/2011 8:53:31 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (54 posts)

NoSmokingBandit
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 @ 9:32:26 PM
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I dont understand why *anyone* would expect Bethesda games to be playable until at least 2 months after release. They have a habit of pushing out broken, buggy games yet people still expect their games to work correctly.

I miss the older generations where games would actually be complete when they were pressed.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 @ 9:40:09 PM

There's nothing "broken" about Skyrim. Games that are broken don't average 9.5 for review scores.

That's why it's stupid for people to be complaining.

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friction
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 @ 9:59:43 PM

Agreed Ben.
My character save is up to 34 hours and haven't run into a single bug.
The only thing I've seen someone complain about so far was an arrow in the character's body that never disappeared, not much of a game ending bug lol...

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 @ 10:19:25 PM

"Pushing out buggy, broken games"

Dude, they spent 5 years on this game. 5 years of development doesn't seem like it would produce any kind of "buggy, broken games" at all.
Are you sure you're playing Skyrim...?

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La_Bete12
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 @ 10:30:49 PM

I've been enjoying the experience very much, and the only bugs I've had are occasional animation glitches and that weird stuck arrow glitch that disappeared after a while.

I agree with Ben, Skyrim ain't broken at all. You try making a huge game like that and getting rid of all the bugs, it's nearly impossible.

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 @ 10:37:20 PM

Not to mention, game development was so much simpler back in their pixel days. During that era, it was super easy to see any kind of pixel that was just ever so slightly out of place, almost like being able to spot a billboard in the middle of a barren field. Nowadays, it's like trying to find a minute needle in a haystack accompanying horrible vision.

So, of course games were less buggy back then. All we really had to worry about was bad grammar written by those poor, sometimes seemingly illiterate, writers...
"All your base are belong to us." Eh?? ;)

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Rogueagent01
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 1:41:26 AM

@NoSmokingBandit

I think I understand what you are saying. Everyone seems to be taking your words literally.

One thing as well to the others just because your not experiencing a glitch(be it major or minor) doesn't necessarily mean there not out there. Many of Bethesdas games over the years have had serious issues where the term "broken" applies. Everything from glitches that would not allow you to start the next chapter or complete the game in general(Star Trek Invasion & Encounters). To quests being glitched for instance, in Oblivion the quest to get the underwater breathing apparatus had a glitch with collecting the fish and because of that glitch many people could not get the item making certain portions of the game all but impossible to complete(albeit small portions).

And if this prick Hines ever wants to see a penny from me again he better learn how to talk to his customers. He's got balls telling anyone to calm down. I have no problem with Ben saying it as he is just being a voice of reason. But Hines just comes off as a capitalist pig when he says it.

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___________
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 3:38:14 AM

so, constantly clipping against objects, and falling through worlds does not constitute broken?
then what the hell does!?
this is not the first game thats scored well thats buggy as hell.
people are complaining because bethesda do this with every game they release!
people would not care if this happened once in a blue moon, but when your releasing buggy game after buggy game after buggy game of course people are going to get pissed off!
i did not spend 100 bucks so i can have the game sitting here looking pretty!

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Axe99
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 5:05:06 AM

I hear ya bandit. By all accounts they've done a far better job with Skyrim than their previous work, but even in the FO3 GOTY edition (and the release-day FO3 was much buggier by all accounts) I got hit with a game-ending bug 15-odd hours in. Luckily I know Bethesda games well enough to keep three rotating saves, spaced well apart, just for such an eventuality ;).

So while it sounds like they've done much better with Skyrim, given their previous (well earned) reputation I think Hines could have taken a more conciliatory tone. It's going to take one more game from Bethesda that launches solid before I start picking them up at launch day again.

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NoSmokingBandit
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 7:03:13 AM

Ben:

Does it work correctly? No? Then it is broken. Surely they didnt intend for it to be this way...

If my transmission spontaneously shifts into N i can still drive my car, but its still considered broken.

But heaven forbid anyone criticize the almighty TES series. All hail Bethesda.

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Beamboom
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 7:22:27 AM

I agree Bandit! That would indeed be a broken car.
So what bug in Skyrim do you consider to be as serious as a gear box randomly shifting into neutral by itself? Just one example of a Skyrim bug of that severity is all I ask.

If a car has a bottle holder that given extreme off-road circumstances could cause the bottle to tilt slightly, and thus risk spilling some of the content on the passenger seat, would you then call the car - the entire CAR - broken? Would it equal to a broken transmission?

You can play Skyrim for hours straight and have a *flawless* experience, you just might, *might* get a minor visual hiccup that in no way shape or form has any severe consequence for your experience. That's how broken this game is.


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Underdog15
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 8:30:10 AM

I'm with Beamboom. I need examples of what constitutes brokenness. Especially when the only one agreeing with you is blankline... that's never a good sign.

I haven't played it yet, but half my friends list right now seems to be playing it. My old roommate, Jesse, loves games like Dark Souls and Demon Souls and the like. He never played a former Elder Scrolls. He has nothing but praise for this game.

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Geobaldi
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 8:37:13 AM

Over 50 hours in and I haven't seen any bugs that would qualify this game as broken. Sure there are glitches but not a one of them has a negative impact on the gameplay as a whole. Unless you count the occasional corpse that falls into the scenery where it's unreachable. So I lose an arrow. I can steal one the next town I come to.

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Cuetes
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 1:10:28 PM

I think it's obvious you didn't play the game, I'm at least 30 hours in and the only thing I noticed was a mammoth that got stuck between two rocks. Compared to past Bethesda titles I'd say they did a damn good job.

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NoSmokingBandit
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 9:51:39 PM

Oh forgive me, I should compeltely ignore the hoards of complaints all over the internet because 3 people at PSXE haven't seen any major problems. Your experience is obviously more accurate than everyone else's put together.

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Devil_Dante
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 1:21:42 PM

Bandit, your argument is tired. When you have a good experience with just about anything, would you call a customer service rep to say how great it was? Now, if you had something wrong with your experience would you call a customer service rep? Obviously there are many popular threads on the internet about Skyrim being "broken", but if every person who has experiences 0 game-breaking bugs also made a thread, which one would outnumber the other, hmm?

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Underdog15
Friday, November 18, 2011 @ 12:52:13 PM

NoSmoking...

Even if you read 1000 people complaining about bugs, that is still rounded -UP- to like .02% of all games sold. People will not respond when it works well. Only when there are issues.

Just because you read a dozen other people complaining, doesn't mean there's more weight than here.

Most of us just asked you for examples of brokenness... I haven't played it. And you're the only one I've heard complain. Why would I believe you over the 20 others that say it's awesome when you fail to provide us with examples when asked?

Gimme a break, dude.

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Underdog15
Friday, November 18, 2011 @ 12:54:12 PM

I mean, really.... 20+ people tell me it's awesome with only minor issues that are essentially meaningless and don't affect them.

You say it's broken, but cannot give me a simple answer about what is broken about it.

Throw me a bone if you want me to believe you.

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Lotusflow3r
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 @ 9:45:55 PM
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I don't get it, i've been playing for 32hrs and have never come across any bugs that affect my gameplay.....i have only seen 1 or two animals get loaded up stuck in scenery...not a big deal at all considering the size of the game.

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Beamboom
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 4:25:35 AM

I don't get it either - here I was thinking that finally they've succeeded and released a game that seemingly has no severe bugs *at all*.

I can understand it when people complain about the Fallout games. There you soon learnt to save frequently, to put it that way.
But I have played Skyrim for days now and the game has not freezed or crashed once, not even stuttered, no broken quests, never even got stuck anywhere (and I try getting *everywhere* so that's actually quite impressive).

I've not even seen a stuck animal yet, all I've seen is a very few cases where enemies has behaved weird after getting killed, typically "shivering" when laying somewhere the game can't decide if it should slide a notch down or up. Totally ignorable stuff like that.


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Lotusflow3r
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 6:40:09 AM

Exactly. It almost makes me mad that people can be like that to people who have dedicated a huge number of man hours, their life, to bringing you such a game, for your enjoyment.

They should be praised for having succeeded in achieving what they have!

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friction
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 7:03:47 AM

GOY will shut them up lol.

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Norrin Radd
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 @ 10:21:34 PM
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Maybe it's just me, but nothing infuriates me more than being told to calm down! That being said, picked up Skyrim today and look forward to popping it in tomorrow. :)

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 @ 10:28:39 PM
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Well, well. I didn't even notice people complaining about these glitches and bugs. I was too busy playing Skyrim to notice.

However, I will say that I've run into my fair share of these little hiccups, but big whoop. The most they got out of me was a laugh. I jokingly told my friend as I was playing it and saw a mammoth twitch up and down as he was having some trouble getting up onto a higher ledge, "Ah! Glitch! This game sucks now!"
Laughed it off, then went on to finish my quest. I didn't think people would be serious about that.

Once again, the gaming community continues to grow picky. This game was made by humans, which we aren't without fault. So, people need to grow up, stop scrutinizing every little detail, and just play the game. I understand the need to point flaws out to improve, but really? Just chill.

I don't see people picking the crap out of MW3's used engine, so why pick on Skyrim's brand new engine? Now, excuse me while I go play some more Skyrim, regardless of the bugs...

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Killa Tequilla
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 6:05:56 AM

The only bug I've encountered was a flying bow. It was a dragon-bow because it had the characteristics of a dragon.

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tes37
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 @ 10:36:27 PM
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The only bugs I've noticed were some ants running across a tree stump near Riverwood.

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Clamedeus
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 6:39:33 AM

I see what you did thar.

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fatelementality
Tuesday, November 15, 2011 @ 10:50:53 PM
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I've been playing hours a day for five days and the only bugs I've seen are the roaches that won't LEAVE ME THE HELL ALONE!!!!!

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mousekiks
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 3:36:18 AM
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I'm loving the game. Have 40 hours in it, however, I've encountered some pretty bad bugs. One, a quest was moved to the completed quests even though it was unfinished and now I am unable to complete. (annoying, but not a major quest so I'm okay). Two, the hollow man glitch. When wearing a Dragon Priest mask and the ArchMage robes and reequipping your mask, the character model has no face. http://kotaku.com/5859201/find-out-how-to-turn-your-dovahkiins-face-off-in-skyrim
Again, no big deal.
The glitch that is proving to be obnoxious is the save game file glitch (PS3 only). The further you get in the game, the larger the save game file gets. As it grows, the game becomes laggy and almost unplayable. Remedy: restart the console until lag comes back. :-P
That being said...my friend has put nearly 70 hours since the games release...never have we been sucked into a game before. Call of Duty will have to wait a little :-)

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___________
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 3:44:51 AM
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of course fans are pissed off, every god dam game bugthesda releases is riddled with bugs to the point their unplayable!
fallout 3, fallout new vegas, oblivion, skyrim, all those games had clipping, freezing, slow down and falling through the world issues for MONTHS after release!
so of course fans are pissed off!
we would not give a hoot if this happened every few games, but every single game just smacks of "i dont give a sh*t about my games i just want your money!"


thats it, im done buying bugthesdas games!
they cant be stuffed debugging them BEFORE they come out, then i cant be stuffed going down to the store and wasting 100 bucks on them.
how about this bugthesda?
will calm down and wait, but you have to give us our money back.
then when the patch releases, then you can have our money back.
deal?
i did not spend 100 bucks so i can have the game sitting here looking pretty!
i get to play the game in 2 weeks time, then you get my money in 2 weeks time.
i dont pay for games i cant play!

its impossible for them to release a well polished game, but how much you want to bet that would turn into the easily done if there was a governing board saying ok your games too buggy you can only charge 30% less until you fix them?
then all the bugs would magically disappear, and all of bugthesdas games would be as well polished as uncharted 2!

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Beamboom
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 4:29:46 AM

You can't PLAY this game? How about you stop buying games? Cause if you finds this game to be so buggy you can't play it, well then there are no games you can play.
Maybe a very simple oldschool psn game. Although, you quite probably will go bonkers of a visual glitch of a pixel or two there too. Maybe you even find a misspelled word in the credit roll. Refund time!

This game is an amazing achievement. It's full of both polish, care and so much content it quite possibly is the best game deal of the gen, counted in hours of play.


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Gordo
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 4:57:04 AM

No offence to Ben or anyone else but blanks rants are worth the price of admission by themselves...

Please tell me (from one Aussie to another), what video games do you actually like? What would be your top three this generation?

Mine are MGS4, Heavy Rain and Uncharted 2. With honourable mentions to ACII, GOW3, Mass Effect 2, and Nier.

Love your enthusiasm! Mad as a cut snake...

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friction
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 7:06:45 AM

Just ignore the troll and maybe he won't notice you... Oh shit he's charging at me :P health regenerating bastard

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Beamboom
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 7:34:47 AM

Gordo,
Oh I agree! I have nothing against mr Blank at all, it's just *sometimes*, a very very few times, he "gets on my tits" as a british friend of mine put it.
This is one of those times, cause there is no reason whatsoever to go that hard out on a game like Skyrim. Now to the conclusion that we should not sponsor buggy releases, well that I agree with. We should use our voice as consumers - and that voice is found in our wallets. It's just, Skyrim is NOT one of those releases!

Friction
lol @ "regenerating". You're saying mr Blank is a BOSS? :D

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___________
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 9:01:31 AM

so falling through the world, and clipping into everything you walk past is a "amazing achievement"?
so then what does that make uncharted 2?
sorry, im just sick of buying bugthesda games and them being so buggy i spend more f*cking time redoing sh*t i already did, then doing new things.
kinda gets frustrating when you have to repeat something 5 times because the game keeps bugging out on ya!
no reason?
when a developer puts out oblivion, fallout 3 then this and all 3 of them are so buggy you can not play them, that does not warrant the complaining?
then what the hell does!?
how about if the game sets your house on fire, then would that warrant complaining?
hey, maybe you have a gazillion dollars to waste on games that dont work.
I DONT!
if i wanted to play a game that does not work, id go jump on steam!

O, and as for my favourite 3 games this gen id have to be heavy rain as 1, JC2 as 2 and portal 2 as 3.
ACR is close up there, just like skyrim too f*cking buggy!



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Geobaldi
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 9:14:02 AM

"if i wanted to play a game that does not work, id go jump on steam!"

Complete crap. My Steam account has 836 games on it currently, and every one of them work. Just takes some tweaking to get the really old ones, Quake for example, to work.

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Beamboom
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 9:17:40 AM

Blank,
I play the game too, so don't bullshit me. I know what state this game is in.
:/

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friction
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 10:45:44 AM

@______________
It makes Uncharted 2, (A superb game), a game with a singular path, with no world altering choices to make...
And seriously are you basing all these problems off it's predecessors? They rewrote the creation engine, so play the game before you bash it with a complete lack of understanding.


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BikerSaint
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 1:19:36 PM

I think that Mr.Credibility Zero, AKA _________,
really needs to go back to playing Pong to ever become happy again.

(but of course he'll probably find some kind of game-ending glitches there too).

Oh snap, I think I've finally figured out why he's having all these problems with games that nobody else seems to have......

....he still hasn't plugged that Etch-A-Sketch into a electrical outlet yet

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Fane1024
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 7:11:23 PM

I was unable to complete Heavy Rain due to a game-killing bug (apparently, identical to the "growing save file" one in ESV noted by mousekiks). Does that invalidate your #1 game as a great achievement?

Bugs happen. At least Bethesda is working on patching the game. I doubt QD will ever fix the bug in HR.


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___________
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 7:55:13 AM

so what HR is a little buggy, they have not released 3 games in a row that are unplayable now have they?
as i said no one would care if this was the first buggy game they released, but its not!
its ok for you, yous only throw away 60 bucks were forced to throw away 100!
i dont have 100 bucks to spend on a game i cant play!

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frostface
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 4:10:34 AM
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Compared to other Bethesda games, I've not encountered many glitchs at all.
I'm not saying Bethesda should get a pass because all Bethesda games are glitchy, but the small few I've seen in Skyrim were more funny and added even more character to an absolutely phenomenal game.

And if people are gonna bi*** about glitchy, talk about Uncharted 3. That game had a lot of glitches not to mention the Chapter 19 glitch that involves having to shut down your system and restarting again the start of the level.

Is Uncharted 3 a bad game? Hell no!!! it's fantastic but I've yet to see anything like it in Skyrim.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 9:21:25 AM

Uh...Uncharted 3 is hardly glitchy. Outside of the Chapter 19 thing - which, percentage-speaking, is exceedingly rare - there wasn't anything in there I've heard of as being commonly reported.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 9:45:40 AM
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It does have a lot of hitches on PS3 but having to restart my system now and then is a small price to pay for such a fantastic experience overall. Kind of wished they had mastered the PS3 by now but no such luck.

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Beamboom
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 11:55:11 AM

Seriously? You have had to restart the ps3 now and then? Well then I stand corrected cause I trust you when you say so.

All I can say is that I've not *once* had to restart the game, let alone the system. It's running silk smooth here. And I mean that, it's pure butter.
Could perhaps this be related to different hard drives? I got a rather fast and large drive, are you using the original drive?

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 1:42:24 PM

World,
"Hunterd: The demon's Forge" was that way too.

The game would just just freeze up & lock up my Slim , plus my controller too.

I had to shut down my Slim from the optional on/off power-cord adapter switch that I bought(I hated that the red light was "always on"), at 9 different stages of the game, just so I'd be able to restart my PS3 & then re-start the game back from the very beginning of that level I had already been through.
I loved the game, but that glitch was forever frustrating & a serious waste on my valuable time.

And I can't see a game that keeps locking up my PS3 & controllers as being very good for my consoles either.
I mean who really knows if those continual "console locked-up" glitches could even affect the inner workings of our PS3's & cause some undue, unknown, & unseen, damages to them either.

Maybe Highlander might have some thoughts and/or info on possible console damages happening from this type of serious glitch.

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Fane1024
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 7:24:47 PM

Biker,
It does cause wear-and-tear (perhaps minimal, but not inconsequential), which is why I'm so p***ed that Sony hasn't fixed the PS3 browser. Lord knows how many years of my PS3's life that broken POS has cost me (not to mention my own life).

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Draguss
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 11:18:19 AM
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Been waiting for this. Bethesda games are great but also very buggy, I always prefer waiting for at least the first patch before getting them.

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El Nino
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 8:14:33 PM
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i need a patch urgently because my one is stuffed up.

after completing diplomatic immunity, delphine tells me to go get esbern in the ratway tunnels in riften...etc, however the quest never starts and its not even the in the quest dialogue, ive been to Esbern but he doesn't open the door.

i have found out that this bug is caused by joining the thieves guild before getting to the quest "a cornered rat" very silly from bethesda.

if anyone knows a way to fix this let me know.

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Geobaldi
Friday, November 18, 2011 @ 5:47:27 AM

I've never done the diplomatic immunity mission so I can't see if I get the same issue, but I have finished the Thieves Guild story line.

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raib314
Friday, November 18, 2011 @ 2:10:48 PM
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Don't get me wrong, Skyrim is the best game to come out in quite a while, in my opinion. Once they get the bugs and glitches fixed, it will be even better. But it IS extremely buggy and slightly broken. 30+ hours in and the main story quest of returning the horn of Jurgen Windcaller to the greybeards and it glitched and wouldn't progress. I reloaded 5 saves back, way before I started the horn quest and it still happened again. When you invest 30+ hours into a game and it glitches so you can never complete it that is a game breaking glitch. Not to mention The staff of Jyrik that randomly decides to not shoot lightning on a whim, even fully charged. Also, you can win ANY fight by using a bow and arrow and just staying close to cliff walls. Again, amazing game...even though it should be called Skyrim v0.90 right now.

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gamer4lifexxx
Sunday, July 14, 2013 @ 1:30:42 AM
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All games by Bethesda are broken pieces of crap.. i played Fallout 3 and was only a little while in before the game crashed. i restarted my system, and played again only to fall through the world. i tried again and enemies just stood their not attacking and i was unable to damage them.. then the game crashed again. glad it was only a game i borrowed and im even more glad it didn't break my PS3. i'll never buy any game they put out.. their all garbage filed games with console crashing bugs.

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_matt_
Monday, November 18, 2013 @ 4:48:38 PM
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are they going to fix the esbern bug

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_matt_
Tuesday, November 19, 2013 @ 4:45:25 PM
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does anybody know how to fiz the esbern bug ps3

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What do you think of the Destiny beta?
It's awesome! Can't wait for September!
It's only good, but I'm having fun.
Eh, it's okay, but I expected more.
It sucks, period.

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