Report: New Xbox By End Of 2012, PS4 In The Mix

Bandit1
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 9:12:40 PM
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Hmmmm... As for the studio ceasing PS3 development, something makes me think it's either Polyphony Digital or Naughty Dog. Or at least I hope so!

Last edited by Bandit1 on 11/16/2011 9:15:32 PM

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AshT
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 1:53:00 AM

yeah that sounds about right, Uncharted 4 or GT6 for PS4 launch titles

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Beamboom
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 6:00:05 AM

I'd assume both but if it's just one it's definitely ND. Sony want a flagship to go with their ps4 launch, and uncharted has a much wider appeal than Gran Turismo.

Last edited by Beamboom on 11/17/2011 6:00:46 AM

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daus26
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 8:47:51 AM

Does DLC count as still supporting PS3 software development? ...cause PD still has plans to support GT5 with DLC at least.

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Ignitus
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 8:57:28 AM

I guess it's Naughty Dog but they must be working around the clock to get the PS4 new engine and development tools up and running for the rest of SONY studios. Just like on PS3.

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CaptRon
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 9:13:15 PM
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I wish I knew what was in that "target box".

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Geobaldi
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 11:22:50 PM

The only thing I've read about it so far says that it'll have a hex-core (aka six-core) CPU alongside an AMD graphics card and 2GB of DDR3 RAM. But it's still way too early to know for sure.

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Ignitus
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 8:58:29 AM

Yeah, me too. (Drooling) ;)

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faraga
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 10:12:34 AM

Why is there always so little RAM? My 1,5 year old laptop has twice that much! Just like the PS3 only has 256MB RAM (and 256 MB VRAM for a 512 MB total). Isn't that way to little?

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daus26
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 10:51:08 AM

My first gen, IBM laptop has 2GB ram. Yes IBM, not even Lenovo yet. I'd have to agree that 2GB ram is a bit outdated, but then again, not very many consumer computers out there have more than 4 cores on their processors. Perhaps, that's where the power will be made up?

It makes sense because when I look at a demanding game like GT5 or UC3, with only 512MB (256 VRAM), it can execute all that it did. No PC can do that I don't think? Is it thanks to the PS3's cell? It has like 7,8 cores? Sorry, I'm not a tech guy. I just go by what makes sense to me lol.

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firesoul453
Sunday, November 20, 2011 @ 10:05:38 PM

Why would they put more ram in it?

2 Gigs should be plenty for any game, ( I know of none that use 1 gig now)

lower ram keeps the cost down

higher bit (256 bit or 512 bit vs a 64 bit pc) basically (sorta in a way) faster transfer rate (so It all doesn't need to be loaded at once)

Plus these aren't Windows PC that have 30 plus background activities running that eat up a few megs a piece.

the amount of ram doesn't have much at all to do with the processor....

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CrusaderForever
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 9:14:32 PM
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Microsoft knows that it has to sprint to the 720 to have any chance against the powerhouse that is Sony. The dev kits aren't even available and they are using PC parts to match what the 720 will do! I smell fear and Sony can too. PS4 should still wait until Holiday 2013 and prove to the world that it doesn't care if Microsoft gets out of the gates first. PS3 has a lot of gas left in the tank.

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godsman
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 10:01:45 PM

I don't think PS4 will wait another year after Xbox. PS2 was the universal popular gaming machine, so PS3 can afford to be a year late and gain it's ground later.

PS3 lost most of it's market since PS2, so they do not have the luxury to wait again.

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SoulController
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 10:13:24 PM

@godsman
Everyone needs to stop forgetting that the reason that Sony lost so much ground was because of the high price point. That and the fact that there wasnt much software to speak of.

The Dreamcast came out a year before PS2 and that was a "headstart" alright. A headstart straight to the grave.

Microsoft has hardly any first party studios capable of producing the quality of Sony's IP's. At this point I see M$ having no choice but to jump the gun again. Sony just has to make sure when its there time again, to give a decent price and good launch library

Last edited by SoulController on 11/16/2011 10:15:45 PM

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xnonsuchx
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 10:15:14 PM

Well, they used ~5000 PowerMac G5's as the first Xbox 360 dev units, and I believe just some standard PCs as the original Xbox dev units, so kludging together something to develop with is sorta MS's standard process.

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johnld
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 10:16:22 PM

well, we all knew microsoft is going to prematurely end this console war while its on top. since the difference is below 2mil a while back, they're going to have to release a new console soon. get ready for a new set of red rings..... or whatever the hell they use.

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jaybiv
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 2:46:09 AM

@Soul. Price was not the main issue with the PS3. Sony arrogance since it dominated the last gen had more to do with the PS3 laugh problems. Xbox was just as expensive when you included the add-ons to put the system on par with a PS3. Folks were paying for those accessories before Sony launched. People complained about the price, but for a few months after launch, it was a pain calling to see if any retailers had 60 gig PS3s.

As for Sega, the industry looked nothing like it does now. Sony's entry into the video game market was the catalyst for all that we have now. Sega made a series of hardware blunders that sealed their own fate. Had they had MS $45 billion in cash on-hand, they would still be in the game.

Sony cannot give MS another year headstart this next go-round. MS has the money and muscle to make Sony pay for coming to the party late.

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AcHiLLiA
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 12:37:09 PM

The sad part is that Sony lost money on every PS3 sold.

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LetoAtreides82
Sunday, November 20, 2011 @ 10:10:16 AM

I completely agree with those that say Sony should release the PS4 within a year after the Xbox 720.

The Xbox 360 proved to be a very strong contender (and still is) and that's why it won't be until early 2012 that the PS3 will finally pass the 360 in total sold units.

Unless Sony wants to deal with that mess all over again it should release the PS4 very soon after the 720.

Also Sony doesn't have to stop supporting the PS3, it can easily downgrade PS4 games to be playable on the PS3. Microsoft would be smart to do the same thing but they didn't do that for the original Xbox so we'll see.

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Killa Tequilla
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 9:24:44 PM
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I wonder what will happen when the next consoles come out, will devs stop development for 360 & Ps3?

Maybe PS4 & 720 are backwards compatible but what about Ps3 & 360?

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johnld
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 10:19:39 PM

dont care about that, as long as psn still works on ps3 when ps4 comes out i'll be happy. i'll still be playing games like battlefield and uncharted if i decide not to buy a new system by then. sad though, i was planning to get a new ps3 during the holidays or my birthday but with this news, i might just hold of and get a ps4 instead. i wanted to retire my 60gb ps3 but i guess its working overtime.

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AcHiLLiA
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 11:27:16 PM

Killa don't u own a PS3? 3 PS3 versions support PS2/PS1 backwards compatible . All the rest of the versions only support PS1 BC.
It will be smart for Sony's PS4 to be backwards compatible considering the fact the PS3 has so many good titles.

Last edited by AcHiLLiA on 11/16/2011 11:28:10 PM

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FatherSun
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 9:37:44 PM
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The next generation will be much more chaotic than this one. It is on the cusp of DD and other technological advances.

Last edited by FatherSun on 11/16/2011 9:40:33 PM

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Temjin001
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 9:40:27 PM
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Crazy. I was really hoping to see a PS3 Jak & Daxter done by Naughty Dog.. at least once. I thought the Jak HD trilogy sort of eluded to something there with that.. but maybe not. That's not to say it is absolutely ND, but I'd imagine Sony would be very desiring of such a move. I suppose it could be Evolution Studios with a new Motorstorm game. The first one seemed to be real well received. There's always Santa Monica, but I absolutely expect GoW4 to be PS3. THen there's PD. I sort of doubt it though. I'd imagine PD would want more pay out for all of those years designing a custom PS3 engine for GT5. But considering how laborious it is to create a GT simulator with tons of cars, maybe they have to get an early start, where GT6 for PS3 would have to be handled by some B-Team, or something. I dunno.Lots o' speculating

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johnld
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 10:20:58 PM

well, since naughty dog is pretty much one franchise per generation, a new jak game might be a ps3 launch game. thats not a bad thing right.

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Temjin001
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 10:00:17 PM
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Still more thoughts. I'm all for new consoles, I'm always that way, but there are some must happens on PS3 before PS4.
First, I want another GoW. GoW3 was great, but I know they could do even better on the second go around. ANd PS2 had 2 GoW's, where the first one launched like year 4 or 5 of it's life cycle. It's too early to migrate.

Second, there needs to be a full-on MGS sequel. Not some off shoot Raiden game, but the real deal.

Oh, and like I posted above, Jak and Daxter. That was one of Sony's best early PS2 games. In fact, I thought it was Sony's best platformer up to that point. The series was successful with great sequels.

And no full on WIpEout game? Like, made from the ground up on PS3 with cockpits and all? I like WipeOut HD, but it was largely the PSP games with a new coat of paint. Where's the true "next-gen" experience?

Anyway, maybe PS4 I suspect is still well over a year, maybe two years away. There's still time.

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taus90
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 5:43:10 AM

I want following games to PS3 swan songs in terms of exclusives, Jak & Dexter By Naughty dog, so i want Uncharted 4 on PS4. A new IP by Guerrilla Games, KillZone 4 on PS4. Heavenly Sword 2 from Santa Monica, and GOW4 on PS4. And the two title I Really want to see is Eight Days and Getaway 3.. and i m sure i m forgetting some more games

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xnonsuchx
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 10:12:50 PM
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"this new piece of evidence appears to corroborate that rumor"???

Rumors are evidence to support other rumors?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 10:18:03 PM

When devs say they are working with new hardware specs it isn't really rumor.

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xnonsuchx
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 5:04:52 AM

But it's more hearsay than verified fact, so still more rumor-ish. Many unnamed people or groups of people can say all they want, but as long as nobody's willing to speak on the record, it's essentially rumor.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 10:24:20 PM
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Prepare to replace your xboxes again!

The Xbox has been holding PS3 back this whole generation of multiplats so I don't mind if the PS3 holds the new Xbox back for a year. Since MS has lost most of their exclusives I don't think they would have a huge lineup to shock the world with at launch anyway. More Halo, maybe Gears, more Forza, another Fable...

I don't want Sony to push anything if they don't have to. Maybe I'm getting old but this gen just seems too brief.

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Shams
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 11:55:07 PM

Unfortunately, MS doesn't even need an exclusive to start shipping out their next line of boxes. All they need is COD, and a headstart, to win the masses. I hope Sony keeps that in mind, because they can neutralize it by releasing at the same time and marketing COD as well.

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 12:56:32 AM

Indeed World. Seems like the PS3 is just beginning to simmer. Now MS wants to force Sony to take it off the stove.

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Cesar_ser_4
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 2:56:47 AM

@world you're right just like the ps2 held the 360 back...

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 10:33:07 AM

nah, the last generation ended when the PS2 had been fully tapped out by everybody, this is not the case with PS3.

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Qubex
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 10:26:58 PM
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Actually, I feel rather sad about that news. The end of the PS3 seems to rushed for me. I am only settling down with the console now. What a shame. I was hoping we wouldn't see a PS4 until 2014...

What do I do now? I have 2 PS3's, and to have to purchase a PS4 will be crazy. There is only so much space underneath my TV set :(

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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AcHiLLiA
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 11:36:41 PM

2016, still plenty of time for the PS3.

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Beamboom
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 6:07:08 AM

Oh man do I hear you.
I can not picture the game that will make me rush out to get a ps4. Not with the backlog I got on the ps3 and the upcoming titles the year ahead.

I can *guarantee* that the ps4 will not be a d1p for me.

Last edited by Beamboom on 11/17/2011 6:08:39 AM

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daus26
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 9:18:44 AM

If the PS4 has no games for launch, then it'll probably rely on its other assets, e.g. multimedia features. I doubt that will do much though lol.

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Qubex
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 4:00:27 PM

Unlike the PS3, I highly doubt the PS4 will be a D1P for either. I could easily enjoy my PS3's for another good few years. If anything I will get some of the latest PC multi-platform releases for my laptop next year.

I will look at getting a PS4 around 2014/2015. Again though it really depends on how tempting PS4 hardware is...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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LegendaryWolfeh
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 10:27:25 PM
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Kind of sad to think about a new generation when Team Ico hasn't even given us a game yet this generation =\ where is my Last Guardian..

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sha4dowknight05
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 10:49:19 PM
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I really don't want this to happen. I mean there is just so much for the ps3 and xbox 360 left. I meant in games wise nothing developing or hardware wise since the xbox 360 is over and ps3 is done as well. The games are just so awesome. I mean the games what came out this year alone are to last the next 5 years for any gamer for sure.

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Warrior Poet
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 10:54:48 PM
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I don't think it's been long enough. There shouldn't be any new consoles until there's a serious leap in technology that makes them a necessity.

I mean...if there are new consoles and the gameplay isn't fundamentally different, I don't think I'll be getting one. I still need to round out my GBA collection after all!

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LetoAtreides82
Sunday, November 20, 2011 @ 10:20:43 AM

There's already been a leap in technology, years ago. Even today's best games on the PS3 and the 360 are noticeably not as good as what a top end PC can do.

Why settle for 30fps with some frame drops and some screen tearing when you can have silky smooth 60fps and no screen tearing?

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Russell Burrows
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 11:09:27 PM
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I heard a rumor that Last Guardian may be going to PS4.

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Ludicrous_Liam
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 9:55:28 AM

I heard a rumour that the world was gunna end about a month ago.

Last edited by Ludicrous_Liam on 11/17/2011 9:56:36 AM

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sha4dowknight05
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 3:10:19 PM

Is that your set-up? If that is that's wicked awesome!

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AcHiLLiA
Wednesday, November 16, 2011 @ 11:40:45 PM
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Technology is moving fast.

Last edited by AcHiLLiA on 11/16/2011 11:41:18 PM

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Clamedeus
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 5:58:50 AM

That's for sure.

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 12:54:29 AM
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I don't like this news. MS is rushing the next gen. They're probably going to release another crappy console that holds back the PS4. All so they can say they were first. In the end gamers get the shaft.

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79transam
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 1:36:10 AM

I disagree I think the next MS system will be nice and not face the same or similar quality issues gen 1 360s faced. I really think MS has learned their lesson and will start with a high quality product. I also hope Sony does bot wait to long. I bought a 360 when it first came out(no rrod I was lucky) and never bought a ps3 because they were to expensive and I already had my 360. Sony lost me as a customer for almost 3 years until my brother gave me his ps3 cuz he got a slim. If the next gen starts holiday 2012 I think its really only 6 months to soon

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 2:38:32 AM

Use Windows much? MS never learns. Their products have been crap for years. Everything from their OS to their software to their mp3 players to their consoles. All of it grade A junk.

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jimmyhandsome
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 9:32:26 AM

I don't think that MS or Sony will release their new systems for holiday 2012. It just doesn't seem to make sense since they just released Move and Kinect only a year ago, and they were supposed to "extend the life of the current gen considerably". 2 more years is hardly a considerable extension.

That coupled with the fact that Halo 4 is coming out for Holiday 2012 for 360. Why would they release their flagship title for the 360, while launching their new console a month or two later.

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Jawknee
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 11:02:49 AM

Sounds logical Jimmy.

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Zubair
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 2:40:00 AM
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Dont fall for the PS4 hype. Its here in 2014 earliest. Only but a few months ago Sony had publically stated that developers haven't yet pushed the PS3's limits, not even close and not until than would a new console be justified as the PS4 will look and play like current PS3 titles. The media has a way of playing the masses and by media I donot mean Sony but all these gaming websites misquoting or twisting words or reading way too deep into innocent comments. More so because they have no other news to report on.

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AcHiLLiA
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 12:22:43 PM

good comment dude.

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cthulhu_spawn
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 3:26:59 AM
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With the problems in the global economy getting worse daily and peoples disposable income being squeezed ever more tightly and all this expected to only get worse over the next 9-12 months according to most analysts, then both companies would be insane to launch next year. No company surely can look at consumer confidence and high street takings and expect to make any money on new hard ware at such a time. Then what will happen? people can barely afford to buy games for the consoles they have now (just look at the disappointing sales on many of this years biggies) let alone another 500-600 machine.

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___________
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 3:34:27 AM
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$ony and M$ would be shooting themselves in the foot to release new hardware next year!
no ones ready for it yet.
most developers dont want it, hardware is not ready for it, $ony and M$ are not ready for it they have both lost quite a bit this gen and would want to make it back before transitioning to next.
not to mention customers dont want it.
most people just bought a ps3 within the last 2 years because thats when games finally started coming out for it, and it reached a reasonable price.
now there expected to throw it away for a new system?

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Excelsior1
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 6:23:47 AM
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I can't think of any scenario where launching later than ms is a good thing becuase of the way the na market has played out.

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Ichigo40
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 3:19:20 PM

I couldn't agree with you more...that's why I'm sure MS is rushing this new console out so they can have a bigger starting base and try to say that Microsoft is better than Sony again...

PS its PS3's 5th birthday...long live play! \m/

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TheAgingHipster
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 8:24:30 AM
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Well bugger.

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Wissam
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 8:33:00 AM
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It has been long enough.but I do not think the next PS will be out next year. as for the next box
it will be out next year. with their wonderful next gen drive and shoot by your hands. and their very reliable hardware. and an innovative next gen cod.

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daus26
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 9:14:45 AM
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Can't wait for E3 2012. I just really want all this rumor talks to be official so I can get a clear head!

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Highlander
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 10:46:22 AM
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Considering how few major 1st party (or 3rd party exclusive) 360 games there were this year, it seems clear that their studios are focusing on something else.

Usually people look at what games were released on a platform to figure out whether the platform is being replaced. Wii was declining so rapidly a year ago, people were already betting on a replacement. The 360 this year has clearly been in that territory. With all the studios that sony has working on games, could they be trying to mask that situation for the PS3 so that they actually have the PS4 in the wings for 2012, but are continuing to release PS3 games as if there is nothing new on the horizon? Or could it be that the PS4 is indeed similar enough in architecture to the PS3 that PS3 software will run on it as well and so there is no need to worry about switching to PS4 in the same way that devs had to switch from PS2 to PS3, thus leaving PS2 behind?

Interesting times....again.

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daus26
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 10:58:07 AM

Interesting thoughts, but knowing Sony, they're not really good with keeping secrets. If they are somehow planning a surprise attack on 2012, it would be incredible on Sony's part, and a major attack on MS.

What I'm most excited about is Sony working closely with developers on the making of the PS4 and the graphics chip. If it's gonna be that close in architecture to the PS3, then I believe it's going to be an even smoother transition than the PS1 to PS2 days. Even if we don't get good games exactly at launch, we can have good ones very soon after.

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ace_boon_coon
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 1:01:27 PM
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I think ms needs to secure some first party studios because I think sony is coming to reclaim their spot back. ms will get blind sided next gen.

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KilloWertz
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 7:46:08 PM
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One thing that seems to be getting overlooked is the fact that the PS3 could still have a few good solid years left even after the PS4 is released. The PS2 did.

I'm all for whatever Sony feels they have to do. My PS3 doesn't necessarily have to be retired even if the PS4 is sitting right next to it.

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ulsterscot
Thursday, November 17, 2011 @ 9:58:51 PM
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Kind of hoping there is a break between both machines being released because I must have both - and that could be an expensive holiday season

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Deleted User
Friday, November 18, 2011 @ 10:46:17 AM
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I can't see either the PS4 or the new Xbox arriving in November 2012. They might talk about them at these trade shows this year but the actually product won't arrive until November 2013 at the earliest.

I'm guessing the Xbox Next will be another overpriced, optional accessory needed, poorly constructed, easy to hack/pirate machine that again forces players to pay for online and listen to mostly racist, sexist teenage boys from the Bible Belt who can't play fair and need stupid coloured avatars in hopes of impressing other adolescent boys. Of course, Microsoft will pay off everybody they need to in order to spread their BS to the idiocracies of the U.S. and U.K., where stupidity is rampant.

Last edited by n/a on 11/18/2011 10:47:06 AM

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Kabuki
Sunday, November 20, 2011 @ 10:46:38 AM
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I really don't care about the xbox. I've never owned an xbox and I probably never will. My PS3 however I've had for 3 years and it still runs beautifully. I understand that Sony will have to do something if they release a new xbox, but it just seems silly. The PS3 isn't that old and I feel like it hasn't completely tapped out on potential yet. I don't know about the xbox, though...and I don't really care.

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Caanimal
Sunday, November 20, 2011 @ 1:19:04 PM
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Just because a company is releasing "target boxes" doesn't mean we will see anything for the next couple years... If "reports" from shortly after the PS2/Xbox launched were correct when they said both companies were already working on the next thing then we won't see a console from either for the next 4 or 5 years considering this appears to be the very begining on the R&D phase...

Those of you whole believe micro&soft's "sales" numbers crack me up, it's been known for a long time they count "shipment" numbers, not actual store sales numbers like Sony does. If you look at sales starting at launch you'll see the PS3 overtook 360 sales after about a year. micro&soft also counts units shipped to replace crapped out units (NOT ACTUALLY SOLD) AND the repaired units sent out to others, I would like to see the REAL sales numbers for micro&soft....

Oh, and one last thing, game library WAS NOT a factor on the PS3 launch sales, the 360 launched w/ 6 titles w/ another 6 added w/in the first 3 months, the PS3 launched w/ 3 titles w/ another 6 coming in the first 3 months, that's only 3 titles difference after the first 3 months, not that big of a deal, especially if you count all the PS2 games that were released and able to be played on the PS3 in the same time frame, not to mention being able to play about 90% of all PS/PS2 titles at launch... The 2 biggest factors at PS3 launch was it's price point and shortage of units (something that didn't stop Nintendo's from sky rocketing selling) that really held sales back. About the only think Sony needs to do w/ the next gen of console is to keep the price point down, if they can do that and keep the quality of product up then they will be golden.

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tanner1
Tuesday, November 22, 2011 @ 6:55:33 AM
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I saw a video on virgin, i think its supplied by videgamer, that the new Xbox is called "Xbox Loop".

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DeathOfChaos
Tuesday, November 22, 2011 @ 9:48:54 PM

I'm reading up on the rumored specs for this 'Loop', and it seems that it will be pretty much on par with the PS3, it's gained a few more CPU cores to make it about even with the PS3, which the PS4 will most likely go above and beyond, lol. But this is just rumor, soooo.. lol

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DeathOfChaos
Tuesday, November 22, 2011 @ 9:43:22 PM
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If Voxels come into play with the Playstation 4 and higher density Bluray discs are accepted with the PS4, then I'd be completely ready for it :p

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SS4
Saturday, December 17, 2011 @ 3:22:17 PM
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About time!

Cant wait to see what games will be like on next gen :P

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Ride to Hell: Retribution preview	PS3
Call of Juarez: Gunslinger preview	PS3
Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon preview	PS3
Spartacus Legends preview	PS3
Payday 2 preview	PS3
DUST 514 preview	PS3
Dynasty Warriors 8 preview	PS3
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