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MGS5 Might Be Further Off Than Fans Want To Believe

When we heard that Hideo Kojima would be talking to OPM UK about Metal Gear Solid 5, we had assumed he'd be talking about an active project.

But that appears to be an unfortunate false assumption, as the magazine has offered a sneak peek at the upcoming exclusive interview.

When asked about a sequel to MGS4, Kojima replied:

"I think we’ll probably have to make it at some point, but what that will be, we have no idea."

Well, that isn't encouraging. Furthermore, Kojima may be less involved than he has been with past installments. In the original Metal Gear Solid, he said he made all the maps and enemy routes himself, "did everything hands-on." But he added- "that level I can't do again." So he might not really get involved in MGS5 until the team comes up with everything from the start. Added Kojima:

"I intended to take it to a certain point and then hand it off, but that didn’t work, because it’s hard to convey the concept to other people then have them take the reins and carry on and preserve that vision. That’s why it’s easier to have them come up with everything from the start and then take it to the end."

As usual, a little something might be lost in the translation, and we're sure Kojima will be involved in some capacity when MGS5 gets going. The only downside is that actual development may not start any time soon, which makes us once again wonder: might it be made for the PS4?

Tags: mgs, metal gear solid, hideo kojima, mgs5, metal gear solid 5

11/21/2011 10:19:30 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (30 posts)

Ultimadesires
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 10:38:07 AM
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I still cannot see what they could possible do with this series:
- Metal Gear Solid 4 is the conclusion.
- They have already done 3 prequels with Big Boss
- They're doing another prequel with Raiden in Uprising.
- It seems they're aiming at a new story driven title so a Metal Gear (Not Solid) 1 & 2 Remake seems out of the question.

What can they possibly do, give Raiden a tragic moment after MGS4, Please, he has earnt his peace, MGS4 ended his story too. There is nothing they can do that can avoid milking the franchise...nothing.

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Jawknee
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 11:26:52 AM

Why does this topic make you so irate?

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telly
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 11:28:49 AM

It's not like they couldn't make another game in the Metal Gear universe. They just need to let all the principal MGS characters GO. For Solid, Liquid/Ocelot, Raiden, and many more, it's over. Finished. Complete. Why not make -- gasp! -- a NEW lead character, new villains, a whole new story framework, that still uses the Tactical Espionage Action gameplay, that takes place, say, 10 years in the future after the end of Snake's tale? You could even have a cameo or two from some of the previous Metal Gear games. Heck, perhaps even Snake himself could appear in a flashback sequence or something?

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Jawknee
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 11:29:43 AM

What Telly said plus it doesn't have to take place after MGS4. It can pickup after Peace Walker.
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Ultimadesires
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 11:51:13 AM

telly, this is not CoD (Oh I went there) the characters of the Metal Gear Saga have been built up for decades now they have become so valuable. You can't just remove them willy nilly. They are part of the series, I would play the games to see where Kojima would lead them, and he did a might good job at that I must say. But, it's a fact when a franchise tries to move on to a new cast of characters it falls flat. They could introduce a character called Ralph and call him Radiens grandson, but the connection is invalid. Nobody cares.

As a story set after Peace Walker, well i cannot speak for that as I could not complete PW (Just did not enjoy the story and attempt at strategy.) But I pressume there really is not much to tell inbetween PW and Metal Gear 1. But come on, another Big Boss prequel, as I said before there has been enough already.

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telly
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 12:09:14 PM

Respectfully but completely disagree, Ultimadream. Does Final Fantasy have recurring characters every time out? Don't movies and TV shows and books cycle in new characters, and old ones out, ALL THE TIME? Don't new storylines based on old properties get made? I mean, are you familair with a science-fiction series called Star Trek? I mean, have you read or watched Game of Thrones? *SPOILER ALERT* The principal character literally gets axed! Kojima and Konami could absolutely move forward with new characters for the series if they chose to do so.

I'd be down for a PW sequel, too, though I'm more intrigued by a "next generation" kind of approach for Metal Gear...

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Ultimadesires
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 12:14:14 PM

Final Fantasy is in a gifted postition, where each numeral can lead onto a new world, characters and story. They have set up the series to do so from the get go. Metal Gear cannot do that, as each new games branches the story. If Metal Gear were to suddenly drop everything and start a new story in 'the same universe' i'd just ignore it, why bother you might aswell just make a fresh new game.

As for TV shows, many ongoing TV shows if they change the cast I tend to lose interest. I find after I have settled into a show and all teh characters I like leave most fo the new ones just arent interesting, but then again I dont really watch TV so that is not a problem for me.

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Fox hounder
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 12:28:25 PM

They could opt for a non canon MGS title. To this day one of the most popular MGS games is Metal Gear Ghost babel for the game boy color, that game set up an alternate universe after the first MG game.

@Ultimdream.
You should finish PW. There is in fact more story to explore between PW and the original Metal Gear, for instance a sequel could show how the Outer Heaven base came to be, how big boss saved naomi and grey fox, liquid and big boss meeting for the first time, how big boss was able to return to Fox-Hound, and much more. So yeah, there is plenty of room for a PW sequel.

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shadowpal2
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 12:39:18 PM

They can make a prequel to MGS3...that doesn't have Big Boss...but the BOSS.

BOSS with her Cobra Unit...winning WWII. Yes I want to play this and I would be very interested in this.

It's not Snake...but Kojima has done that before with MGS2. And besides...many of us liked the Boss after finishing up MGS2.

So there you go...that's my idea.

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Ultimadesires
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 1:00:48 PM

@ Fox Hounder, if that is the case PW is a let down, isn't that what the games was meant to describe? Are you telling me it does not depict the rise and control of Outer Heaven?

And as for a game focused on the Cobra Unit and The Boss this is precisely the type of nonsense I fear will become of another Metal Gear title, sure they're good characters, but the story as a whole will not benefit in the slightest having a game dedicated to it.

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Fox hounder
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 1:15:09 PM

PW depicts the origins of the army not the base. Outer Heaven is a 100 floor base in africa, the base in PW is an offshore plant in the caribbean.

I wouldn't say PW was a let down, it did show the creation of big boss's mercenary dispatch (the soldiers), and the beginning of the war between zero and big boss. Considering PW was designed so that newcomers could understand it i'd say it was really good sequel.
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shadowpal2
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 9:41:21 PM

Wow that's damn fantastic Ultimadream...can you please share some of those psychic powers you have predicting exactly how a story would be?

How on EARTH does it not benefit the overall Metal Gear Saga at all? It will give a better explanation of the Philosophers which caused everything to go haywire in Metal Gear in the first place, how the Boss raised Snake to become Big Boss and leave a legacy through his sons, and IT WILL give us a better explanation of what the BOSS learned through war and what she truly wanted to teach Snake in the end.

I can't say that this will all be in the game if Kojima does decide to do an MGS3 prequel...but these ARE POSSIBILITIES. How the hell is it nonsense when it gives the story a lot more depth by providing a deeper explanation of the origin of it all.

What still surprises me is how confident you are that someone like Kojima can't make an amazing story and wonderful addition to the Metal Gear series over the topic of the Boss and the Cobra Unit.

I found all the games MGS3, MGSPO, MGSPW, MG, MG2, MGS, MGS2, and MGS4 adding something quite remarkable to the whole franchise in general.

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Excelsior1
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 10:41:16 AM
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I now highly doubt we will MGS5 this generation. There does not seem to be enough time left in this gen considering the time it takes to make a MGS game. It's interesting that Hideo always talks about handing off the series but he always seems to step back in and take over. It makes sense...it's his baby after all.

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Jawknee
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 11:28:01 AM

It could be. Remember Sony said they are aiming for a 10 year PS3 life cycle. We're only in the 5th year.

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Excelsior1
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 12:34:43 PM

If there is even a whiff of a more powerful platform on the horizon I think Hideo would want to make MGS5 for it. Next gen will be on us in a couple of years. Not enough time to get a MGS title out unless they are going to release it on this generation of hardware after the next gen systems are out. I do not see them doing that.

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Akuma07
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 4:04:40 PM

But Kojima would want it to be on the leading console, so if the game released while the PS4 was out, he would want it to be on the PS4.

I think it is sad, that no-one in his company can seem to adopt his vision that he has for MGS.

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Kiryu
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 10:45:55 AM
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PS4 launch title please Kojima!

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main_event05
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 11:16:20 AM
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if they're gonna milk the series, they can make an RTS, what with all the PMCs and what not. I'd buy it.

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Jawknee
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 11:28:54 AM

Not really milking series considering there has only been 2 new games this entire gen. One of which was a handheld.

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main_event05
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 11:30:31 AM

I mean not now, just if Kojima is ever unable to fend off konami.

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Ultimadesires
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 12:01:31 PM

Well theres the HD Collection as well, but that is for a good cause (MGS2 & MGS3 in Widescreen!)

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Kiryu
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 11:19:10 AM
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jak and daxter collection trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hxzdniiOg0&feature=feedu

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shadowpal2
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 12:41:03 PM

Thought it is off topic...Jak & Daxter was my 2nd favorite action & adventure game of all time during the PS2 era.

It still is one of my most favorite action & adventure games. Naughty Dog is just the BEST.

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Jawknee
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 11:27:18 AM
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Nuoooooo!

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Lawless SXE
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 1:16:24 PM
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Ha... At least he's going to wait to do it. I definitely think that MGS will benefit from having been missed.

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trinichinese
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 4:08:42 PM
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it would be nice if they made a remake with mgs4 grafix i meen i would not mind playing the same story over but with new third person view that they have in part 4 with an aray of weapons and trow in some epic gun fight a little extra to expand the story but not to change it too much

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tes37
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 5:38:33 PM
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I was hoping MGS5 was going into production soon. We still have ZOE3 to look forward to.

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Snaaaake
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 6:37:10 PM
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Let it not be MGS5 please, if better, let it not be a game with Snake or any other major characters from MGS in it.

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ZenChichiri
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 7:48:28 PM
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They can do an MGS5. I've thought up of an idea that I think would be pretty cool actually. As practice I might actually put my thoughts down onto paper (err laptop rather). They can use some characters from the universe, but definitely a new protagonist. However, Solid Snake can still spiritually be there, and he can be involved in the story, just not as an alive character. Much like how Big Boss was an integral part of MGS1's story while being dead (supposedly at that time) as can Solid Snake be involved in this story. Flashforward a few years into the future and you can have yourself an epic game with current foreseen worldly problems.
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___________
Tuesday, November 22, 2011 @ 1:45:34 AM
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little too early, no?
they should wait for next generation systems and let it out on there, we dont need a new MGS yet.
id much rather him put his time to ZOE3, or maybe even a new different IP.
id love to see him do a murder mystery game, ive always thought he would do the perfect heavy rain styled game.

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