Jo Garcia Interview: I'm A Gamer...Just Try To Prove I'm Not
See Full ImageIf you'd like to accuse definite gamer and Playboy model Jo Garcia of not being a true-blue gamer, feel free. We kinda did it. And you know what? The more you accuse her, the more she's gonna prove you wrong.
I just got off the phone with Jo. We spoke for about 75 minutes...it took all of 2 to know she has a gamer's blood. Much like me (and maybe you), she sits in one spot in an RPG until she can take down the enemies with one or two strikes. She keeps a gaming journal so she can remember exactly where she has been, and what she has already done. Her love and intricate knowledge of Final Fantasy was more than enough to convince me, but it didn't end there.
"My mom didn't want me to have a Nintendo, so I'd sit and watch my dad play. I've always wanted to be like my dad; he liked cars and playing games, and he was just cool. But I wanted to play, too. I had gone online to find out how to get past all the levels and everything, so the next time we played, I asked him to let me go first, because I said 'dad, I'll die quick.' But I didn't; I went through the entire game without dying."
That may be the first example, but it certainly wasn't the last. From a skeptical G4 to journalists at press events, everyone loves to assume that this girl doesn't know what she's doing. They think Playboy sent over their token representative, and the real gamers will scoff and think they have to coach her; i.e., where the buttons are, when to press them, etc. ...and then she clears the area faster than any other gaming journalist on hand to sample the demo, and everyone sits there, confused, shocked, and (admit it, guys) impressed.
See Full Image"I love RPGs; I'm an RPG girl, and I have to do everything. I have to do every side quest, I have to find everything, and I won't stop until I do. I love all the Final Fantasies, I love all sorts of games like Battlefield and Borderlands. I really liked Parasite Eve and Oddworld; two of my favorite games, I really thought Oddworld was way ahead of its time."
Here's where I kicked in my two cents; explaining how I had to farm up the 300 pieces of junk in PE to get the AK-47, primarily because I knew she would know exactly what I'm talking about. Hell, I don't think half the PSXE community would know what I'm talking about. And that was a common theme throughout our talk: gaming is a big part of her life and in some cases, it is her life.
So by all means, call her out. I've advised her to always respond; don't let anyone get away with it. She didn't let us get away with it, and that was the right thing to do. Just be prepared; if you do have the unmitigated gall to call down the thunder, expect to hear her talk like a gamer. And at the end, expect to be a little red in the face.
This is the first headline we will create from our talk with Jo. The second will involve her thoughts on the future of gaming and the upcoming generation (and what she wants to see), as well as her belief in the importance of storytelling. In the meantime, visit Gamer Next Door and check things out. She's welcome to throw things our way in the future, and if anyone wants to say she isn't a gamer, they can come deal with me first.
Pretty girls don't game. Guys like me who love to read, write, and work out, don't play video games. ...yeah, well, we anomalies have to stick together. And she has had to go through a lot more stereotypical nonsense, too. Guess it's time to toss it all out the window.
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12/6/2011 11:36:20 PM Ben Dutka
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Comments (135 posts)
Suapsycho
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 1:32:21 AM
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ImTheMan
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 3:10:12 AM
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Underdog15
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 6:44:54 AM
Imagine.... what life would be like if you were more "see a woman... strike up an intelligent conversation"
Yeah... sorry... that was probably a stretch. At least your sock will always keep you warm at night.
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kevinater321
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 6:56:40 AM
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OPHIDIAN
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 7:10:30 AM
So embarrassing.
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Beamboom
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 7:53:12 AM
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Highlander
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 9:59:56 AM
@OPHIDIAN
Exactly, the kind of comment made by 'Suapsycho' is an embarrassment to the entire community. :(
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79transam
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:09:10 AM
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coverton341
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:16:24 AM
It's a sad but true aspect of the gaming community that there are more than a handful of people like this. I think it actually speaks very highly of this particular community here though that his comment has received such negative responses and reprimanding.
You need ignorance in small doses to show the overall brilliance of this community.
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Underdog15
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:24:33 AM
No... I think most of us are big boys now and understand the importance of treating another intelligent person like an intelligent person and not a piece of meat. So, yeah... no, I doubt most people here were thinking that. Mostly because, while most of us appreciate attractive looks, it would be meaningless without the personality and brain power to back it up.
No worries though, you two... that sort of thing comes with maturity. (not age)
@Coverton
Excellent post. Very insightful. An approach I had not thought about before! Much appreciated!
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Highlander
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:30:48 AM
Get over what? This is a community, not just a transient bunch of random talking heads firing off one like 'first' comments or the usual misogyny under the guide of socially inept gamer talk. I don't see why we should get over anything at all in regards to this.
Oh, and no, he wasn't saying what everyone was thinking. I doubt any of the female readers or contributors were thinking what he wrote. I'm not female, but I can assure you I didn't think what he wrote, and I know that a number of my friends here didn't either. I realize that there are some socially inept and immature gamers in the world, as you and the OP prove. However, if no one tells you that you're being rude, crass or classless, how will you ever learn?
One day, perhaps, you will learn that respecting others means just that, respect. Comments like the one made by the OP here are not in any way respect.
Last edited by Highlander on 12/7/2011 10:35:13 AM
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79transam
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:32:54 AM
Perhaps I'm mature enough to be able to understand that.
Highlander ever heard of humor? Clearly that is what Suap was going for. Also I don't need a lecture about this site as I have been a commentator for a while on articles and have been reading the site for over a year(not long but long enough). Commentators on this site tend to take themselves a bit too seriously from time to time.
As for socially inept I guess my wife, child on the way, house, and masters degree are proof that I am just a buffoon amongst the rest of you.
Seriously lighten up, you will live longer
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Beamboom
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:45:46 AM
I mean, sure, tell him it was an idiot comment (anyone that's put their teenage years behind them will agree with that - myself included) but boys will remain boys until the end of time. That's just how it is.
Why do we all care if she is a gamer or not? Because she is beautiful, that's why. She's got a sexy body for all to see with one single search on Google (yeah don't act surprised now). If we want to intellectualize that or not is probably just a question of age. But endorphins are runnin' no matter how good we are at disguising it. She is, after all, an "endorphin machine" (Prince, anyone? ;)).
Last edited by Beamboom on 12/7/2011 10:54:24 AM
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Highlander
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:49:12 AM
I've heard of humor. Humor is this thing that uses wit, intelligence and cleverness. See the thing is, his comment doesn't seem humorous to me at all. There is no wit to it, it's nothing more than a crass remark.
Beamboom, if no one tells these 'boys' that this kind of expression is inappropriate, disrespectful or simply boorish, such 'boys' are doomed to remain immature boys rather than maturing to manhood. However, the larger point for me is that comments made on this site reflect on me, you and everyone else here, whether we made them or not. So why should we tolerate this kind of crap? I don't want anyone reading that kind of comment and imagining that it is somehow representative of me, it's not.
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79transam
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:53:03 AM
Highlander fair enough. I will agree that his comment was crass but the reaction to it was overboard IMO. People spend way to much time getting offended by things. I took the comment as an attempt to be funny and not reflection of his intelligence or standing in life.
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Ludicrous_Liam
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:55:16 AM
And, in all honesty, Suapsycho DOES make him/herself look like a 'baffoon' as you put it, with comments like "She could help me with my Dick's Balls... trophy! Yeah...". I mean what, were you expecting him to get 26 thumbs up with comments like "yeah lol!!!1!". I don't think so...he was always gunna get backlash for that kinda comment.
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79transam
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 11:10:24 AM
I was also not saying that she can't be a gamer nor be considered as anything other then hot. However I think you are foolish if you think that she cares what people on this website think of her. I 100% believe she is a "gamer" and I 100% believe that she wants badly for you and everyone else to believe that because it adds to the fantasy that she is selling and at the end of the day that is her job.
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Beamboom
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 11:18:17 AM
If I were a Chippendale in my spare time I'd not care one single bit if girls of all ages drooled all over me. Not a single bit. I'd laugh all the way to the bank.
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Underdog15
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 11:23:56 AM
You wanna be an idiot about this, go ahead.
And I'm positive I'll live much longer than you.
Much... much long.... and wealthier... and happier in a meaningful relationship with my hot, sexy, and brilliantly intelligent wife.
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Underdog15
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 11:50:11 AM
I just talked to my friend Kerri who modeled her way through university (in foreign affairs and women's studies, funnily enough). I told her about this conversation, and she says you guys are pigs. She also said it's frustrating that people can't see beyond the first layer in front of them (referring to how you see a model =therefore= only cares about what you think about how they look.) She says guys like you are part of the reason society will never be able to look at models, gamers, or "those of us that are both" as anything other than what those labels dictate. "God forbid we be 3-dimensional human beings"
She then called you guys a name I can't really repeat here.
yeah.... I'm gonna just disagree with you, laugh, shake my head, and move on now. lol
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jimmyhandsome
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 12:10:44 PM
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Underdog15
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 12:28:14 PM
So, her being attractive and a gamer is a "fantasy" she is selling?
.....
Am I seriously the only one that isn't blown away by her? I'm just glad someone is out on the forefront to do their part in battering down the stereotypes. I'm not buying into any sort of stereotype, nor do I contribute monetarily to playboy or any of her work.
I just think people shouldn't be defined by their occupation. Especially if all it does is draw out juvenile points of view on modeling.
But, if you know anything about the history of playboy, the most famous models use their looks to get noticed, but it's only a starting point. Because even 10 years from now, they need to rely on their brain power. So, the best strategy for any playmate is to be recognized for their work outside of modeling while using modeling to get noticed.
It's so in-your-face obvious, it's sickening that you would continue to think she doesn't care what people think about her OUTSIDE of modeling. Her caring what people think is the WHOLE REASON this entire thing was even started. Seriously, look at things 3-dimensionally like I've been saying this whole time. If people don't notice her for anything other than modeling now, then 10-15 years from now, she will not have an easy time remaining in media spotlight.
Most playmates use playboy to get an awesome degree at a prestigious and expensive university. It's naive to think they don't care what people think about them if it isn't related to their looks. It's almost laughable you would suggest as much.
Last edited by Underdog15 on 12/7/2011 12:35:40 PM
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jimmyhandsome
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 12:33:04 PM
Well, girls that look like her and play games are pretty few and far between. Fantasy? Maybe. Rarity? Yea, probably. I love the fact that she is completely destroying sterotypes and stigmas that are associated with gamers, but the entire reason Ben has been covering her is because it *is* a rarity that a model would be a gamer.
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Highlander
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 12:34:57 PM
You're right, there is no need to belittle the OP, but then, that's because his own comments belittle him far more than any of us can.
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Beamboom
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 12:46:23 PM
If I say "bouncer", what do you or your friend think of then? Or "lifeguard", "teacher", "programmer", "soldier", "stripper", "unemployed", "alcoholic", "smuggler", "priest", "muslim", "senior citizen", "cashier", "lawyer", "Scotsman", "politician"...
Don't try and give me the "we don't get any pictures in our heads until we get to know them, we believe everyone should be given the same chance to prove their <bla bla bla>"-speech. Of course you get one dimensional images, stereotypes in your heads. We all do!
This is nothing special just for good looking girls (nude or not). Lord knows a beautiful girl gains a *tremendous* much from her looks too (just like good looking men do - this is proven time and again: Beautiful people (girls AND boys) enjoys an easier life. People are more positive towards them, they get more mates to choose from, they are offered better jobs and better salaries).
So if your friend took off her clothes to get through the university years and then turn around calling the ones who enjoyed her nude body without worrying too much about her philosophical capacities "pigs" as soon as she's got a degree, well then that says a lot more about her than them. You go tell'er that. ;)
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Underdog15
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 12:46:36 PM
I still think the entire topic deserves a more brain-encouraged response than the OP and more respect than transam gives it.
I don't think her image means she deserves to be barked and howled at. I have never been with a woman and treated her with anything other than loving respect. There's no situation that calls for that. The whole, "She dresses sexy; therefore she deserves to be seen as a piece of meat and nothing else" gets under my skin. (For the record, Jimmy, I'm not referring to you in any of this)
Maybe I just value women too much....
@Beamboom
Well for almost all of those, I do not, but that has nothing to do with me being "honorable" or some crap. I'm an employment counselor by profession and see all sorts of professionals in all careers (although, most are youth). But I know exactly what you mean.
HOWEVER, it's stupid to think that I'm supposed to just accept every knee-jerk reaction because that's the acceptable stereotype. That's the whole point of this article. How can we discuss the idiocy of gamer stereotyping, then follow it up by allowing for stereotypical responses to everything else? It's just a giant mass of contradiction and hypocrisy. It makes far more sense to me to, if you get a 1-dimensional image in your head, to make a conscious effort to see more than what is in front of you.
Simply put... I hate when people make half-ashed justifications like that.
As for my friend... I said she was a model. I never said she was nude..... Why would you assume she posed nude? Your whole paragraph is a mass of assumptions I refuse to address.
How incredibly asinine.
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Highlander
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 12:52:46 PM
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79transam
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 1:03:12 PM
"I can agree with that Jimmy.
I still think the entire topic deserves a more brain-encouraged response than the OP and more respect than transam gives it.
I don't think her image means she deserves to be barked and howled at. I have never been with a woman and treated her with anything other than loving respect. There's no situation that calls for that. The whole, "She dresses sexy; therefore she deserves to be seen as a piece of meat and nothing else" gets under my skin. (For the record, Jimmy, I'm not referring to you in any of this)
Maybe I just value women too much.... "
The point you are missing is that there is a HUGE difference between a girl that dresses sexy and sells sexy. Sure down the road she may be the next Julia Roberts but as of this momment she is an individual who has resorted to selling naked/semi naked images of herself as her business. Hey good for her just don't buy that she gives a flying anything about what we think on this website.
Also best friend of mine was a male model, is dating a female model and another friend of mine dated a stripper for 3 years so I understand that there is a disconnect between job image and actual personality of the person. However my friends as models or my friends ex do/did not care what their customers thought of them as long as they paid the bills
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Beamboom
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 1:16:14 PM
But back to topic: If we lift this discussion to a wider perspective, to life and human relations in general, I personally believe all normal human beings are found somewhere in the middle, not to the far extremes on any topic (man it's hard to think in norwegian and write in english at times :D).
Meaning, I believe we all can both howl at a sexy girl as well as value and respect females. It is not disrespectful to think someone is sexy, or get turned on by someones physical attributes. I even feel pretty confident that most any person don't mind at all that others gets turned on by them.
It's perfectly possible to value a woman, and at the same time feel a pure physical attraction. There's no disrespect in that. It's pure chemistry. And this is where we ALL are. We are both caring, intelligent individuals and horny pigs. Not necessarily at the same time, but we are capable of being both. We are humans.
I even dare say that most people, regardless of age or sex, would not mind to be treated as "a piece of meat" now and then. I know I wouldn’t! :D
And if you choose to work as a stripper or a playboy model, well then you better be ready to get both barked at and howled at. Some would even call you a failure if you don't achieve that.
But does that mean the barkers and howlers don't respect her? Don't value her? Do you even think the stripper or soft porn model would prefer if they shut up and started discussing good backup routines and exception handing amongst themselves instead, while enjoying the needle work on their fine lingerie? Neeeh. howl! Bark! It's showtime!
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Underdog15
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 1:36:02 PM
If it were me, I'd take pride in what I do. I have a feeling she takes pride in her accomplishments as well.
Or maybe I just have too much faith in people. That's possible too. But seeing as the only thing she'll get from most of us is our opinions, and not dollars, AND the fact that she actually has read the comments here... tells me... that yeah. I would give credit where credit is due, if I were you.
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shadowpal2
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 1:46:17 PM
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AcHiLLiA
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 2:16:26 PM
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Underdog15
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 5:41:35 PM
You're just as welcome as the rest of us to start it up over there. If you think it belongs over there, start it there and suggest it stay there.
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Kev2579
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 5:47:40 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 8:21:22 PM
Just my two cents- I'm fairly certain she cares a great deal about what people think of her gaming status. It's a passion of hers and people who question that passion undoubtedly get on her nerves.
As for the inappropriate stuff, I figured there was no way to completely avoid it with this article (and the next). But I'm sure she knew it was unavoidable as well.
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PharaohJR
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 11:40:10 PM
when i clicked this article & seen this female i said damn smh....... boss lady (Jo Garcia) look here.... you something serious. while reading i said to myself "all right... who will be the 1st person to say something sexual about this female". sure enough.... you did lol.
look as a man i cant deny.... i thought of something just like you but you gave it to the community raw with no season & cooking so most having a hard time digesting your comment.
I believe & just my opinion cant speak for this feline.... that she has to deal with comments like this daily & she over-stands its normal. if not she woulndt take a career in the field of exposing the parts us men think of.
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Gamer_Josh
Thursday, December 08, 2011 @ 8:24:01 AM
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pillz81
Thursday, December 08, 2011 @ 4:02:15 PM
Eh. Men AND women will make their assumptions and voice their opinions of their sexual opposites based on outer appearance. The fact that new people are born everyday makes it certain that immaturity, stereotypes and superficiality will continue to live and flourish.
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kokoro
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 2:42:26 AM
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ImTheMan
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 3:08:34 AM
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Lawless SXE
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 3:29:58 AM
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Excelsior1
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 3:43:32 AM
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Hmm, let's see if we can nail her down on some specifics. It's easy to say one loves all the Final Fantasy games. but which one was her favorite? Why was it her favorite? Who was her favorite character in the FF series?
Let's see what else I can come up with. Okay, here's a good one I think. Most serious gamers have played the MGS series. Some thought MGS4 wrapped up the series pretty nicely and that Snake's journey is over. Having said that, where would she like to see the series go next? Any thoughts on MGS Rising?
Sorry if that's too many questions. Maybe there is a question in there she will respond to.
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ImTheMan
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 3:48:41 AM
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Killa Tequilla
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 5:51:00 AM
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Ultimadesires
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 6:51:46 AM
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Underdog15
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 6:57:33 AM
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BikerSaint
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 2:45:42 PM
Not positive but I would have to think that Ben probably did his Q&A with Jo already during that 75 minute phone call.
But it would be nice to know those answers too.
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Ultimadesires
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 6:50:18 AM
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I have never had any 'problems' with female gamers. My housemate, is always on Warcraft. Gaming in my eye has reached out to the majority this gen, it's now entering the same status as films, movies and books. So naturally more people will become interested female or not. Maybe now we'll start seeing more female leads in games with more than a heavy chest.
But it seems Jo has being playing games for years, Is that really such an abnormality? At my university we have a gaming society which has plenty of girls there. In any case, I have no issue with it and it respect anyone that can appreciate Final Fantasy (Unless it's Ivalice's titles alone...)
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Underdog15
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 6:55:48 AM
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Ultimadesires
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 7:14:41 AM
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Underdog15
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 8:58:17 AM
I think you would agree if you get through it.
We agree about the story for FFXII, certainly.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 9:40:23 AM
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Highlander
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:02:52 AM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 11:39:53 AM
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Underdog15
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 6:59:29 AM
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We aren't anomalies. We're just not the stereotype that's been around for 20 years.
Most of my gaming friends aren't very "gamer-ish" either. Heck, some that aren't into games fit the stereotype better.
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TheAgingHipster
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 8:55:15 AM
Point is, we're not anomalies at all, we're just not what the media wants to paint us as being!
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Underdog15
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 9:00:12 AM
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Jutter
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 9:19:14 AM
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frostface
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 7:19:59 AM
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SolidFantasy
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 9:21:29 AM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 9:38:19 AM
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It's... unsettling that she might be "like us". It's better for me not to think I have anything in common with a Playboy girl. Trust me, it just is.
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Underdog15
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:06:39 AM
Now that I think of it, FF I-IV had very stoic leads, FFV was more carefree like Zidane or Tidus. FFVI didn't have a definitive lead male character. FFVII and FFVIII were both a little bit loner-ish or at the very least, gruff. Squall moreso than Cloud.
To me, I guess there isn't really a stereotypical FF lead. They seem to mix it up pretty well.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:19:15 AM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 11:42:42 AM
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Excelsior1
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 12:07:28 PM
Is there any chance you can pass along any of my questions I posted above? I wrrote the questions out a lot better above, but basicaly I would like to know what her FF game is and why. I would very much like specifics please.
Also, where does she think the MGS series should go next since it would seem Snake's journey has come to an end ?
Thanks
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 3:01:24 PM
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Ichigo40
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:08:45 AM
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That's why when I finally set up a twitter account she was one of the first and few people that I actually care to follow. There always instances where advertisers and companies slap on a beautiful face on a stereotype and say "look at our gamer/sports fan/anime fan/comic fan...so you should pay attention to us!"
Just like us gamers don't like to be stereotyped as lazy, fat, immature, and undateable I'm sure Joe doesn't like to be categorized as a "fake gamer"...that just my two cents! haha
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Highlander
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:21:30 AM
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I think it's funny - in a way - that people are still surprised because someone like Jo Garcia is a gamer. I mean, is it because she's a model? Is it because she's pretty, or cute, or 'hot'? Is it because she's a Playboy model? Is it because she's a 'girl'? Do any of those things negate the possibility of liking or playing video games? Does playing video games from a young age mean that a girl can't be pretty, or a model? Girl gamers have always been the subject of a lot of assumptions as have models, and especially 'hot' Playboy models. But as everyone knows when we assume, we make and ASS out of U and ME.
Is the gaming community still so primitive that it looks down on female gamers? Pretty, cute or 'hot' gamers? what about older gamers? Is the gaming community as a whole still so screwed up that it re-enforces the very stereotypes that have doomed it to be the butt of jokes for decades now? I can't imagine anyone accusing Jo Garcia of being a basement dwelling nerd or anything of the sort, she breaks a lot of the stereotypes. But really what is the stereo-typical gamer now?
All I know is that breaking stereotypes has always been a great thing. Is it a case of, as Worlds puts it "she might be like us, or is it a case of we're like her? Or perhaps it's simply that our definition of 'gamer' is sorely in need of review?
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:32:20 AM
She believes it's more about just girls in general, not pretty or hot girls. Even the gaming journalists just aren't ready to accept that she's one of them...probably due to the fact that when we were growing up, the idea of a girl playing the NES was just plain preposterous.
And I think she fully understands that, and is more than happy to shock the hell out of everyone when they make certain assumptions.
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Highlander
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:37:12 AM
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Highlander
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:57:06 AM
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wackazoa
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:29:39 AM
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Beamboom
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:33:56 AM
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... or is that just a myth too? ;)
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79transam
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:50:48 AM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:57:39 AM
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Beamboom
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 11:05:32 AM
... Can she cook? (bah, who cares... :D)
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AcHiLLiA
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 2:25:10 PM
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bigrailer19
Thursday, December 08, 2011 @ 12:50:56 AM
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Ludicrous_Liam
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 10:38:49 AM
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Relating to when she watches her dad play, I remember when I got into gaming, it was because I was at a friends house and he was playing a WWE game on the PS2 & I was playing tag-team mode with him. Bearing in mind me & my friend LOVED WWE back then (say what you want about it, it was good entertainment dammit), It's fair to say I had a sort of addiction to anything wrestling related - and games were no exception.
So after playing it every time I went round, I decided to get myself a PS2 and alas, a new gamer was born :) It opened my mind to alot of things too, because, while I was perfectly patient enough to watch films and appreciate the inherent qualities (rather than look past all that and concentrate on the funny parts or something), I was still at a very young age and I didn't quite understand alot of it. However, with games I was able to really open my mind, and take things in much better. Maybe it's the interactive element that has that effect. I'm not too sure. But it sure did help me develop, despite the popular belief that video games have a negative effect on children.
Anyway, bit off-track there (then again I can't remember the last time I commented without doing that). I think it's great that you were able to contact her Ben, especially when you consider that, compared to the bigger sites, PSXE is pretty damn small (don't 20,000 sign up every day on IGN? xD). Looking forward to the next article.
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Oxvial
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 11:17:24 AM
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I miss Parasite Eve gameplay last one was just too much different :(
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maxpontiac
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 11:49:43 AM
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Great interview, and I am looking forward to part 2.
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Diabiblical
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 12:12:50 PM
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CaptRon
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 12:13:11 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 12:23:52 PM
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Highlander
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 12:49:01 PM
Let me try to understand. You used the phrase "White Knights" which is often a reference to people who's character leads them to defend others, because they see a lack of fairness, or an attack on someone that's done nothing to provoke it, or simply because it's the right thing to do. Such people tend to have a high moral code and tend not to be afraid to let it show.
You say that this site is full of White Knights, which I am guessing means that you think there are a lot of posters here who meet the above criteria. Hmmm.. OK, doesn't sound so bad.
Then you say it's disgusting, presumably because of the white knights. So you think that the values of defending those attacked without provocation, combating unfairness, doing the right thing and having a strong moral code is disgusting?
Or perhaps it's because you feel that the 'white knights' are only rushing to the 'aid' of Jo Garcia because she's a hot Playboy model. Maybe you think that the same people would not rush to defend her if she was not so hot? Perhaps you're therefore thinking it's pretty disgusting to have all these people thinking that they can ingratiate themselves with her by defending her? I'm pretty sure you'd be wrong, but whatever....
I get tired of people projecting their own motivations on the behavior of others. Perhaps the "white knights" simply have a higher degree of maturity and a moral code that causes them to speak up?
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Beamboom
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 12:55:39 PM
Not that I've ever seen "white knight" used like that, but I imagine that's what he meant. :)
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JMO_INDY2
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 1:08:25 PM
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Ichigo40
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 2:01:00 PM
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Riku994
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 3:12:55 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 3:36:00 PM
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Highlander
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 3:41:49 PM
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Underdog15
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 11:26:21 PM
"Oh shoot... lots of people who try to be decent human beings! ah damn! I'm soooo disgusted!"
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jimmyhandsome
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 12:19:08 PM
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fatelementality
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 7:56:39 PM
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frostface
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 1:12:33 PM
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Gamernextdoor Playboy's Jo Garcia
@frostface your awesome for saying that thank you.
Guess she read the comments last week? I dunno know.
Thanks Jo if you're reading the comments here now.
However, it's all done and dusted and bring on part 2 of this interview.
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Douchebaguette
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 1:37:37 PM
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My bad.
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Oxvial
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 3:09:42 PM
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CanadianGuy420
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 3:31:37 PM
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Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 2:59:25 PM
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La_Bete12
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 6:09:33 PM
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And no, I'm not just saying this because I'm a "white knight". My dad's a pastor, and I've been raised to be extremely respectful to the opposite gender. Women are people too, and they deserve the same amount of respect, praise and decency along with all races and people with different sexual taste.
Cheers to you Ms. Garcia, and cheers to all gamers in general. :)
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Beamboom
Thursday, December 08, 2011 @ 2:10:08 AM
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Underdog15
Thursday, December 08, 2011 @ 12:23:13 PM
Your only fault, Beamboom, is that you assume everyone is smart. True, everyone can teach you something. But "average" intelligence is extremely low. I'm pretty sure this is the root of all our disagreements.
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Beamboom
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 4:01:05 AM
My clear experience in my life so far, is that people are okay when you get to know them.
There is no relation between morale and intelligence, and the bad element here is morale, not intelligence. You can easily find unintelligent, high morale, utterly beautiful human beings.
Worst case scenario is intelligence paired with immorality. That's where you find the super villains.
So, the best way of teaching morale is by living it, not preaching it. To preach is using intelligence as the carriage of the message. "Women are people too" is a logical conclusion based on intelligence. But it is immoral to say so, because
a) It means that it's not obvious. Noone says the earth is round any more. It's just too obvious. To point out that women are people means there is a certain element of doubt, or an alternative *is* thinkable. This very way of putting things takes me back a hundred years, to a time and age I do not want to return to.
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b) It indirectly means that we should respect them only because they are human. If you catch my point. The entire way of arguing is simply wrong on a very, very extensional level. There is a logical breach here that I strongly dislike.
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OPHIDIAN
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 7:16:50 PM
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Exactly, it is the epitome of gamer generalisation. It's unfair to consider this community as part of that stereotype.
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@79trans:
This is advice from a lawyer. I hope this advice is helpful to you and like-minded people:
Get therapy or you could end up in jail.
If you go around telling people how much you would like help with your 'dick balls ...trophy' you have serious issues.
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Beamboom
Thursday, December 08, 2011 @ 12:46:15 AM
Secondly: "Get therapy or you could end up in jail"??? Dude, have you lost your mind? What we have here is a teenager trying to make a joke when he sees a pinup model!
Here I have been called everything from an imerialist swine to a provocative idiot and everything between without anyone caring much. And then a Playboy model shows up, a teen does a joke about how he'd like to shag her (or something) and all hell break lose?
What *has* this world come to?!Did *all* sanity get thrown out the windows here as soon as a Playboy model showed up?
Lol - this is totally... Totally twilight zone!
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OPHIDIAN
Thursday, December 08, 2011 @ 8:08:17 AM
Let's put this simply.
You walk up to a stranger at a bus stop and noticing her good looks decide to kindly inform her how much you would like to fck her. I very much doubt you will get a welcoming answer mate, and I will be surprised if the police are not informed. You get cases like this every day in England.
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I don't mean to be rude, but I will no longer elaborate on this matter, just getting plain boring now.
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Gamer_Josh
Thursday, December 08, 2011 @ 8:26:00 AM
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Underdog15
Thursday, December 08, 2011 @ 10:25:39 AM
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Beamboom
Thursday, December 08, 2011 @ 2:11:01 PM
If you have a problem seeing the difference between a guy uttering a comment about a Playboy model (being it funny or not) and harassing someone directly at a bus stop, if you can even think the thought of it having *any* kind of relation then... Well... That's...
... I'm out of words. That's it. I have edited and written at least ten different sentences in this comment but none does justice to it. If you lack the ability to put this into perspective then... This is scary. That's all I am able to say. I am scared now.
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OPHIDIAN
Thursday, December 08, 2011 @ 9:05:34 PM
...
Malicious Communications Act 1998
S.1(1)(a)
It is an offence to send a message to someone which is 'indecent or grossly offensive.'
Indecent in the Oxford dictionary is defined as:
"Not conforming with generally accepted standards of behaviour, especially in relation to sexual matters."
There are thousands of cases which make use of the law and all it would take in this situation would be for Jo to say the comment has made her upset.
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My advice from the very beginning to you, 79trans and psycho? Tread carefully.
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Beamboom
Friday, December 09, 2011 @ 5:13:55 AM
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Underdog15
Friday, December 09, 2011 @ 9:57:49 AM
Part of my job counseling youth and employment counseling is to advocate for youth. I also job develop, which means I am a liaison between employers and employees. This year alone, I have had 89 complaints of inappropriate advances/comments related to various workplaces. 82 of them were complaints from females about "jokes". It was all "light hearted fun", and in 2 workplaces (both mechanics shops), the bosses told me that this kind of joking is how the guys joke around, and it's not serious.
Of the 89 complaints, only 4 wanted some action taken on their behalf. 1 complaint is currently in court. 2 complaints resulted in firings. And another resolved itself through discussion.
I have 48 of these complaints where the complainer said they didn't want to make a big deal because they can't afford to lose their job. (In other words... backed down due to fear. Because "they can't take a joke")
What is important to notice, that in every single case this year, and in last year's 113 total cases, every single time the complainer decided to take action, it worked favorably for them. Of the 2 court cases from last year, only one has finished, and it resulted in criminal charges against the attacking individual (community service and parole. No jail time.) and the business was fined $500k for not taking minimum required steps to protect their employees under Canada's Bill 168, which addresses harassment and safe workplace laws. There is currently now a civil lawsuit underway where the abused is suing the business. There's a good chance she'll win. Bear in mind, this entire case is based on verbal advances. Nothing physical. Why? Because she's protected under Canada's Bill 168. Because she has the right to exist fairly and equally without unwanted advances or sexual jokes. (similar to Ophidian's malicious communication's act in his country, and I'm sure whatever act is in yours, Beam.)
Collateral damage for the business included their "Workplace Safety and Insurance Board" premiums to quadruple.
Basically, what I'm saying, is that Ophidian is dead right. You might not like it or think it should be that way, but it is the way it is most 1st world countries.
The biggest problem now is that victims of harassment still are not likely to defend themselves out of fear for losing their jobs, not being liked, etc. etc. About 86% of harassment cases are purely vocal harassment. Only 14% of it is physical.
So yes... it should be taken seriously. And he's right. All it would take is for the one talked about inappropriately to take action. They would almost definitely win. Especially when it's etched for all eternity on a website.
Obviously, it won't happen. But Ophidian is right. It could. (It's why comments sections SHOULD have anti-harassment policies that are better enforced than they are. Just to protect the business of the website, let alone it's participants.)
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OPHIDIAN
Friday, December 09, 2011 @ 11:07:02 AM
I think in America the word used to describe this sort of thing is 'cyberstalking.'
As Underdog says, cyberstalking can have a profound effect on individuals and it should be prevented and those found to have committed an offence should be punished to prevent further offences.
Such ignorance of the law should not be forgiven.
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It being a teenage or young person's jest is not excusable, I am 23 and it is sickening to see this kind of behaviour.
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Beamboom
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 4:17:58 AM
You both seem to be intelligent beings but if you guys don't separate between direct person-to-person harassment and a guys comment to another regarding a third person then maybe your legal system must relate to that.
But if you really, really mean that this "oh I'd love to screw this gal" comment here is in ANY way relative to the things you describe, then you must also think that a crime is committed in this example:
Two guys sit outside a restaurant having a beer. A beautiful woman passes by. Short skirts, no bra, loose blouse dancing around basking in the wonders of gravitation.
One guy say to the other, "oh shit, check out the movements inside that blouse, man. Are they fake you think? Not that I'd care much if I were located between them...".
BANG! Crime committed! Red Alert! All morale police officers to the battle stations! These are two potential sex crime offenders that need to be told they are sick in their heads and need counselling!
... Or not? This is human nature we talk about here! And the difference between two buddies saying so to each other and to actually walk up to this girl and repeat the exact same sentences is like miles, miiiiles apart. It's like two different universes! They are not in any way related!
Men/boys will ALWAYS, forever and ever comment on tits&asses. That is NO crime, that is human nature!
And as shocking as it may sound: Girls are no better. Nope, this is not just a boys thing. They are not innocent, naive dolls floating around, "they are people too", you know. And people do these things. Girls are just a tad more discrete, out of purely social norm reasons. They are not supposed to howl, so they do it a bit more quietly.
But damn do they howl like single minded primitive species too. You would probably not believe the things I've heard (and seen!) from girls while working in a "public" job (I've been a DJ and TV host for several years).
They are no better at all. But again: This is human nature! To howl at a girl on a stripper pole and harass a colleague at work (or on their Facebook page) are to ENTIRELY different things!
And what this guy did here was equal to howling at a stripper club - NOT harass a colleague at work.
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fatelementality
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 7:51:37 PM
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PharaohJR
Wednesday, December 07, 2011 @ 11:46:38 PM
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Maeldun
Thursday, December 08, 2011 @ 10:58:55 AM
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You can see in her face and jerky ghetto movements she has no clue what she's talking about. If you can even take your attention off of her cleavage to look at her face lol WONDER why that is in there? =D
Thing is I don't really care....this is what the media does, they have been trying to do it for years....sell the idea of hot female gamers. Another example, Morgan Webb. And any of the other girls on G4, you think they're there for their leet skillz? lol
What I find funny is the people who find attractive gamer girls or just plain normal gamer girls some kind of rare commodity....my first thought is wow...these people probably don't know many girls lol Gamer girls, attractive and not so attractive are a dime a dozen...especially in my circle. I can think of 5 girls right off the top of my head of girls on my Xbox Live friends list that would have you drooling at your screen. They really aren't that rare....but then again like I said....silly media *sigh* Sorry for super long comment btw
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, December 08, 2011 @ 12:28:08 PM
I spoke with this woman. She lives and breathes gaming; she knows things YOU and many other people probably don't know about hardcore RTS, RPG, and classic gaming, all the way back to Mega Man and Mario.
As for your supposedly drool-worthy girl gamer friends, I'm not seeing any such thing at my local GameStop. In fact, nobody is.
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Underdog15
Thursday, December 08, 2011 @ 1:19:19 PM
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Maeldun
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 2:23:12 PM
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stgclawson
Thursday, December 08, 2011 @ 12:56:48 PM
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Maeldun
Thursday, December 22, 2011 @ 9:22:00 PM
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MrAnonymity
Thursday, December 08, 2011 @ 9:43:02 PM
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Not really much else to say, you know? Believe it or not - there are female gamers. *dun dun dun*
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Suapsycho
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 10:37:07 AM
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Harder Dick's Balls is a trophy in the game Pain. It was a double entendre. Call it crass if you want. I know you assholes looked at her pics and thought the same thing.
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Riku994
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