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Rising Returns At Platinum With A...Revengeance?

Where did Metal Gear Solid: Rising go? A great many gamers have been asking that question for most of 2011.

Well, believe it or not, it has apparently moved and been renamed. A leaked video from the Spike TV Video Game Awards dropped briefly onto YouTube, and then promptly disappeared. Figures.

But most sources got everything they needed from that leak. It seems the game is now in development at Platinum Games (Bayonetta, Vanquish), even though the Kojima Productions label is still on the project. The adventure still features Raiden battling against swarms of futuristic enemies, but the title might now be "Metal Gear Solid: Revengeance." The trailer didn't give an estimated date or platforms, but that's okay for now.

If it really is Platinum cranking on this game, what do you think about a different studio working on a Kojima project? ...the fans probably have some interesting comments.

Related Game(s): Metal Gear Solid: Rising

Tags: mgs rising, metal gear solid rising, metal gear solid revengeance, platinum games

12/10/2011 8:46:09 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (66 posts)

OPHIDIAN
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 8:58:57 PM
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That is quite a surprise.

The question in my mind is, if KP are not developing this, what are they developing?

I dearly hope that they are making MGS5.

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Akuma07
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 4:34:04 PM

Might be why they changed devs for this game. To focus on the next MGS

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kris22
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 9:03:55 PM
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Zone of The Enders 3

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SolidFantasy
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 9:11:25 PM
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Well I sure did like vanquish... So it could be worse. Like any intellectual MGS fan I was hoping Kojima was going to grab this by the balls and give another "a Hideo Kojima game" seal of approval. But this will have to do. The story won't hold a candle to the latter, but I'm confident the gameplay mechanic (though nothing like other MGSs) will be very entertaining.

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Akuma07
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 4:35:56 PM

You can definitely tell that it has a Vanquish feel to it.

That scene with Raiden fighting MG Ray reminds me A LOT of the ATB fight scenes in Vanquish.

I loved Vanquish, but I admit that the original style of MGR had me a lot more interested.

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frostface
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 9:14:18 PM
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If the job was to be passed to another company. I think Platinum are the best guys for the job.

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sonic1899
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 9:34:51 PM

I literally said "What the hell??" when I saw that Platinum games were developing it. I didn't expect that at all.

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karneli lll
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 9:15:28 PM
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If that trailer could've been named bayonetta 2 or vanquished 2 i would've believed it. I dont know, the game so far feels like a joke and giving it to people with so little ps3 success (platinum games)says a lot.

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maxpontiac
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 9:15:53 PM
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Don't go in expecting a Metal Gear Solid game featuring Snake and you'll be fine.

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Spineshank
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 9:16:22 PM
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This is an awful name. Revengence? That sounds like some cheap B grade movie that no-one has ever heard of..

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Jawknee
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 10:49:50 PM

BINGO!

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GuyverLT
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 12:32:10 AM

You know what I help wondering with the original creator of DMC working at Platinum Games, how much you wanna bet he jumped on this opportunity so he could compete with the new DmC game being made Ninja Theory lol.

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FM23
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 11:20:06 AM

Gotta agree...the music was too...B-Grade action movie, but the action looks EXTREME...lol, very arcady looking game if I might say. Wonder if the story is prominent or the action takes centerstage?

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ImTheMan
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 9:22:04 PM
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Hmmmm... doesn't sound too good. Might have Kojima lost faith in the project? Or was disappointed with the overall direction so he gave up and sent it to another studio? Questions...questions. Ah well! I'll still play it! :)

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 9:24:16 PM
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Poor Kojima seemed to have trouble picking his words at the VGAs... I'm not much of a Metal Gear fan, but even to me that didn't look very.... Metal Geary.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 9:25:48 PM
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This game is going to be awful based on... everything we know.

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Geobaldi
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 9:26:09 PM
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Judging from the video at the awards tonight, I'll pass. A Metal Gear hack 'n slash is not what I'm interested in.

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556pineapple
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 10:45:13 PM

I was expecting a hack 'n' slash from the beginning, so it really didn't surprise me. Still not sure what to think of it though...

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Jawknee
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 10:49:23 PM

556, Except when they first revealed this game way back they promised it wouldn't just be a hack n' slash game. They promised to retain some stealth action as well as the story telling we have come to expect from the MGS franchise. It looks like that stuff went out the window when they handed development over to Platinum.

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GuyverLT
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 12:39:34 AM

I mean the over-the-topness looks cool and all..... For a Bayonetta game but here it just doesn't fit. The gameplay in the 1st trailer was much more smooth and fluent and was basically one hit kills with the slicing and while it was a different kinda gameplay for a MGS it still had some MGS feel to it. in my opinion, but now it just feel like Bayonetta with MGS skin over it. In the beginning of the 1st trailer Raiden was using stealth, but now it just looks like a straight up hack n slash; oh well I'm still gonna play it, buy it and probably love it but I'm just saying tho.

Also does anyone else thinks that the graphics have taking a slight step back from the 1st trailer.

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Jawknee
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 12:46:23 AM

Yup I think they did too. I was just thinking that while I started reading your reply. They graphics definitely look toned down from the first time they showed this game.

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shadowpal2
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 10:11:06 PM
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It may be a good game...but it certainly won't be Metal Gear Solid. What I am glad about is how they changed the name to Metal gear Rising...but boy does this look a hell of a lot different compared to the previous E3 trailer.

Anyway...I really wonder what will come out of this...but I must admit...it looks silly...and unfortunately the Kojima styled silly that actually makes me laugh.

But again...it could be fun.

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Lawless SXE
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 10:17:21 PM
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Metal Gear Rising Revengeance... Odd. Thought the trailer wasn't too bad though. Still certainly looks like MGS4, and I got something of a similar feel from it, and Platinum are definitely good developers for it. Now I wonder what KojiPro is creating...

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Jawknee
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 10:26:07 PM

I don't know what is giving that similar feel other than it's graphics. The tone, the style, the direction, the animations, the dialog reminds me more of Bayonetta than MGS4.

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Lawless SXE
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 11:08:33 PM

The situation in the beginning reminded me heavily of MGS4, as did the art style and cinematic nature of the trailer. That battle at the end, I think, is also reminiscent of the more off-the-wall approach that KojiPro takes to bosses, but keep in mind that I've not played anything by Platinum yet. I'm not writing it off quite yet.

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Jawknee
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 11:12:18 PM

Yea I don't know. Having played Vanquish, some of Bayonetta and every Metal Gear Solid game, this bleeds Platinum more then Kojima or Konami in my mind.

I'll watch the trailer again tomorrow when GameTrailers is running better( it kept stopping)to see if I can spot what you're talking about.

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Jawknee
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 10:22:23 PM
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In all honesty...this looks terrible. Reminds me of that craptastic franchise Dynasty Warriors but with more blood, robots and better graphics. Also Raiden looks waaaaay too over powered in this. Is that really supposed to be the same Raiden chopping up Metal Gear Ray that had a hard time killing Vamp?

I'll wait for the reviews. The only reason this game might be fun despite the rest of its turnoffs is Platinum is developing it. Their games tend to be mindless but Vanquish was fun.

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Lawless SXE
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 11:11:42 PM

His decimation of Metal Gear Ray... As I recall, he did much the same to the GECKOs in MGS4. You have to consider that Vamp was able to fight back mano-a-mano, much as that guy at the end of the trailer there was able to. The balance of strength may indeed be a bit out there though...

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Jawknee
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 11:15:55 PM

True but GECKO's aren't Metal Gears. They appeared slow and rather clumsy compared to Metal Gear Ray. During that last fight between Metal Gear Rex and Metal Gear Ray, I would have never have thought that was something Raiden could do with just his sword. Just seems way too over the top I guess. But than again, it is Platinum. Vanquish was pretty over the top. I think it just doesn't click right with me since they are trying to merge VanquishishBayonettaish style of play with a Metal Gear game.

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Lawless SXE
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 11:30:07 PM

Yeah... I suppose you're right. Then again, Raiden did manage to stop that enormous ship by jamming his sword through his foot.

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Jawknee
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 11:38:21 PM

LOL! True.

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556pineapple
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 10:48:22 PM
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I'm not sure what to make of Platinum developing it. I know they're good, but are they as good as Kojima Productions? Or better yet, will working under Kojima make them better?

Oh well, I can wait to see, I'd rather play Peace Walker anyway.

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Jawknee
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 11:06:20 PM

"but are they as good as Kojima Productions?"

I don't think so. They are good at what they do but giving a game titled Metal Gear to Plarinum is almost like dragging it through the mud. I don't mean to insult Platinum because I did like Vanquish(didn't care for Bayonetta)but their games are kinda mindless and lack the depth and quality that Kojima Pro and Metal Gear are known for.

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Dancemachine55
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 11:20:34 PM

Agreed, I got into the Metal Gear Solid games for the mixture of great gameplay AND the fantastic story.

Platinum Games are great at making fun and fast games, but to take the reigns of a Metal Gear game? This leaves me concerned, but slightly intrigued.

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johnld
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 1:16:09 AM

kojima productions was only an amazing developer because kojima himself was handling the project. this project was handed to some other guy that konami implied that kojima trusts alot with the game. no kojima control means lower quality game.

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firesoul453
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 11:00:06 PM
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Did we ever learn what that one project was that was seen in that interview with Hideo Kojima?

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Lawless SXE
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 11:13:56 PM

We know nothing official on his current projects, but we know of Project Ogre, and the possibilities of ZOE3 and a Castlevania: LoS sequel (though that would likely again be done by MercurySteam, or another external developer).

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Dancemachine55
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 11:17:10 PM
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Well... that looked pretty average, for a Metal Gear game anyway.

For a Platinum Games hack n slash, looks awesome!! If it didn't have the Metal Gear name on it, I'm sure it would be much more popular.

I'm not a big fan of the cheesiness levels being turned up to 11. Revengeance? Really?!?! The screaming guitars and outrageous over-the-top gameplay? Sorry, it might've worked for Bayonetta, but not for a MEtal Gear game.

No wonder Kojima was concerned.

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Jawknee
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 11:26:54 PM

That's my problem with this. When has Metal Gear ever been average? That is why I get this meh feeling from this. Every Metal Gear game has been stellar(yes I would even say MGS2 was stellar in it's own right even though I found it to be the worst in the series). I'm getting that Final Fantasy XIII feeling with this I think. High production values like Metal Gear but still not Metal Gear.

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GuyverLT
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 12:47:14 AM

In case you were wondering about the name Revengeance it means Revenge with a Vengeance which makes no sense what so ever, they can make fun gameplay but they're characters are so damn cheesy with little to no depth.

LMAO Man seeing this trailer and reading all the comment from facebook, twitter, and youtube, it's DmC all over again, this is like a serious deja vu.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, December 10, 2011 @ 11:41:41 PM
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Looks like a $20 action title to me.

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johnld
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 1:17:34 AM

black friday bargain bin for me. kinda missed yakuza 4 for $10. wanted to buy 3 then trade them in to best buy for $17.

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JohnnyKey
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 12:14:37 AM
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Ah damn, when I saw this, what hope I had for rising has gone. This just looks...bad. :(

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Jawknee
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 2:22:29 AM
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Goodness gracious, I looked up the 2010 E3 trailer, it looked a ton better. This looks absolutely wretched in comparison. What the hell happened?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtM3PGyiQUc

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Beamboom
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 2:48:20 PM

Oh wow - yes indeed that looked way better.
But also, that wasn't ingame footage, whereas this trailer here seem to be based on that. To judge a game based on pre-redered cinematics is risky business... We remember that Dead Island "family in reverse" trailer and how that turned out to have nothing to do whatsoever with the actual game.

In this trailer here it looks like the main character is just whipping air with his blades. I can't get over how silly it looks... :D


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Jawknee
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 3:27:19 PM

The second half of the E3 trailer was gameplay footage. They even had a live demonstration of Raiden chopping watermelons using that graphics engine.. They changed the engine for some reason. The graphics and animations look worse now. Especially the animations.

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Beamboom
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 4:08:45 PM

I am sorry, indeed it was. I thought the intro were so cool I probably had forgotten the second half by the time I started writing the comment. :D

Well then it most definitely looked better. How strange!

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Beamboom
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 3:51:00 AM
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Oh man that looked just stupid. Like a failed attempt on making an ironic joke about kung-fu movies. *Lame*.

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___________
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 3:51:06 AM
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oh the irony!
NT get put on DMC, a massive reboot for the franchise.
the creator of DMC leaves and forms PG, and they get put on this which like DMC is a massive change for the series, and it also looks allot like a DMC game.
looks really good however, i wish they could have severing limbs like NG2 had.
i hate it when sword games dont let you hack off limbs, you slice through a persons arm 1000 times and nothing happens.
i wish more games could have the deformation tech soldier of fortune payback had, every time you shot a enemy that limb came flying off in a fountain of blood!
now thats what a sword fighting game should be like!

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Vivi_Gamer
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 5:43:54 AM
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This is prcisely what I have been complaining about for over a year. I have told you all countless times that a MGS story after MGS4 will ruin it, I was willing to accept MGSRV Set inbetween MGS2-4 But this is completly unaceptable! This is why they can't continue using the Metal Gear Universe, its just going to become so far fetched! look at that metal gear robot, it was far to over the top to be a MG.

Raiden.... RAIDEN! His story was over! He deserved his peace after MGS4, Spoiler if you care But in MGS4 They even built his body back up again and he was left happy with Rose and his kid. Here they have ignored that done what I call a resurrection. What I am refering to is 'Alien Resurrection' Where they took a fully concluded story and bust it back open again. I can already tell I am not going to like the story and the redundant new characters.

And Platinum games, okay Bayonetta's gameplay was good for that title, but this is Metal Gear and just from that trailer alone I can see they have blown it out of proportion. I am so SO opposed to this, just as much as Ninja Theory (A company I actually like) working on this 'dMc' title.

THIS IS NOT METAL GEAR!

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Jawknee
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 10:31:54 AM

To be fair this isn't what we were told we were going to get when the game was first revealed. They changed it and now it just looks bad.

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OPHIDIAN
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 7:10:44 AM
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Oh man, that trailer is just plain bad.

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FullmetalX10
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 7:25:27 AM
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This looks too over the top. I liked last year's E3 trailer better, it was more structured, but that was just to show off the mechanics I guess, oh well, not sure I'll look into this any further.

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BikerSaint
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 8:23:01 AM
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I don't know what to think about this whole change-over, it looks OK if it was a whole different IP, but not so much as either a MG or MGS title IMO.

But since KP is still producing it, I'm positive that Kojima will keep his fingers stuck in this MGR pie, so I'll just wait for more info, vids, & reviews to see whether it becomes either a "I want" for playing, or another used bargain binned "I need" later on, just for my collection.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 10:18:29 AM
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I think it'd be interesting to see the comments if "Metal Gear Solid" wasn't in the title. If this was just a new IP, developed by Platinum Games and produced by Kojima Productions, and this very same trailer arrived, I have a feeling a lot of people would be drooling. Or at the very least, they'd be willing to give it a chance.

...and this is what happens when you mess with iconic, beloved franchises.

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Jawknee
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 10:28:14 AM

These sword hack n slash games have never been my thing. Never could get into Devil May Cry, Ninja Gaiden or Bayonetta. God of War has always been the only hack n slash game I could get into. I was actually going to buy this based on that 2010 E3 trailer. But not anymore. The gameplay just looks too gimmicky now. :(

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Lairfan
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 11:07:32 AM

Ben, its actually not even a Metal Gear Solid anymore. According to that trailer and other sources, its Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance.

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weerd
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 11:35:27 AM
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It's fine that Platinum Games is developing it. They are very capable. But to me it doesn't really feel like an MGS related game at all anymore. It looks like Bayonetta or Devil May Cry with MGS characters and/or character design. After watching this, I have completely lost interest.

It seems like an awesome hack & slash, but not was I was hoping for with the whole "precise cutting" etc. that we saw in the tech demo w/ Raiden and the watermelons...

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Twistedfloyd
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 1:13:07 PM
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This looks like crap. As a hardcore MGS fan I knew Rising wasn't going to be like the other games, but this looks like a game on crack cocaine that was made for 12 year olds with Raiden being like let's just kill everyone and have a good old time.

Raiden isn't like that. He's thrown into a shitty situation in MGS2, and is trying to survive and is trying to help Snake in MGS4, and is having an existential crisis at the same time. He had actual motivations in those games, here he looks like he just wants to kill everyone and everything.

This ruins the ending of MGS4 as well when he tells Rose I'm done running and he's going to be there for her and Little Jack.

The original story seemed interesting because it was going after Sunny to get her back from the Patriots pre MGS4. It was the missing link. This just looks ridiculous and lacks any integrity that was left in this character.

I can't believe Hideo is letting this be made this way.

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Teddie9
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 1:33:53 PM
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-_-, well this is no longer on my radar, it definitely detroys everything Raiden is or was rather. Really "Jack the ripper"?

I guess Kojima never really cared about Raiden then......

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PharaohJR
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 1:55:52 PM
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hmmm.... looks crucial. played Devil May Cry 1 & 4 wish i played 2 & 3. played Baynotte demo & didnt enjoy it.... im just wondering what made kojima partner with another developer.

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BigBoss4ever
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 2:28:20 PM
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Raiden is a boring character in MGS to start with, let alone this has gone out of Kojima's hand. So to me, it is a 19.99 purchase in its 2nd years thing at best...

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Douchebaguette
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 2:39:36 PM
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The words "Vengeance" & "Revenge" were displayed in different variations 10 times within that trailer. Didn't even brother counting how many times "Re" was used.

The guy at 1:30 has probably seen better days.

Yep, my Metal Gear nutcase friend will not be happy with this installment. From Tactical Espionage to purely mechafied anime battle slice n' slash Lightning Bolt Action. How else could anyone have enough strength to manhandle a Metal Gear?

Well, people were complaining about the lack of traditional Japanese themed games nowadays, though perhaps not with this title. Ah well. I'll still consider this a purchase.


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Hynad
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 2:50:26 PM
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It's Metal Gear Rising... Not Metal Gear Solid Rising. ¬_¬

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Vivi_Gamer
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 3:18:57 PM
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So I take it that with Revengeance they plan to do more than one of these games...?

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Ninja_WafflesXD
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 5:32:24 PM
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I will say that I'm not the biggest fan of Metal Gear (I've only played 2 & 4), but even I can tell that this new trailer is waaaayyyyy too cheesy and over-the-top for a Metal Gear game.

While Rising was initially supposed to stray away from the norm, the first showing still had Raiden displaying some evidence of stealth and what-have-you....

Now....I'm not so sure :(

I'm not going to lie, I was looking forward to this game quite a bit...but now? Not so much.

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