Metal Gear Rising Incurs MGS Fan's Vengeful Wrath

Be careful, Konami. For the love of God...be careful.

We're not about to accuse you of becoming another Square Enix. No, it's far too early for that and after all, Platinum Games is the primary developer for the newly renamed Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance. Kojima Productions is still part of the project (apparently), but it's not like Hideo Kojima is making this game.

And with the "Solid" part of the title gone and the rumor that Kojima might be working on MGS5 or even Zone of the Enders 3, Konami isn't in a terrible position. Not yet. But they should be wary about the wrath of the hardcore fan; this new game does have "Metal Gear" in the title and if you check around the Internet, those die-hard fans feel a little betrayed. It's important that you listen and respond to those fans who have adored the iconic Metal Gear Solid franchise.

I'm not saying they should cancel Revengeance because contrary to the popular opinion, I think the game showed promise (strictly from an action-oriented standpoint), and Platinum knows what they're doing in this genre. But storytelling isn't their forte, and with zero stealth and virtually no resemblance to MGS (besides Raiden's presence), Revengeance is going to ruffle some feathers. No, don't cancel the game; just be warned: you're treading on eggshells, Konami. A few followers are a trifle concerned.

Your saving grace right now is Kojima himself. No way MGS5 will be anything like Platinum's game, and if anyone knows his fans, it's this guy. We're convinced MGS won't suddenly become a series the long-time lovers hate ('cough' Final Fantasy 'cough') but this can turn into a slippery slope very fast. So just take this as a PSA, Konami. Keep it in the back of your mind, okay?

Related Game(s): Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance

Tags: metal gear solid rising, metal gear rising revengeance, konami, mgs

12/11/2011 9:12:10 PM Ben Dutka

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flamefury42
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 9:36:47 PM
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It's essentially why this game is being made by platinum games and not by kojima productions. I already knew by when they showed the first trailer for MGS5 Rising that there was going to be some changes to it. However, I didn't know Platinum games was going to pick up the game to be developed. Is that a good thing? sort of, Vanquish was a hell of a good game and it had a lot of value and I think it be shown here with this new name being Metal Gear Rising. I can see why fans are not happy with that, then again good choice by those who made the decision to change it.

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flamefury42
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 9:40:15 PM

And who knows I mean, Hideo Kojima could be creating a whole new game for the PS4, most likely though Kojima Productions are developing for PS Vita. Most definitely at this time, that's what they are focusing on.

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Godslim
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 9:45:21 PM
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tbf we knew it was a hack and slash i mean yeh it doesnt look like mgs really but it still looks ok people should consider it more of a spinoff than sequel

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Jawknee
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 10:27:07 PM

No, they promised they would retain some stealth and story telling. Now it's straight up Dynasty Warriors on crack.

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daus26
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 6:09:05 AM

Yeah... E3 2010 Trailer > VGA 2011 Trailer

Wow, did the game change since then... for the worst!! Just my opinion.

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Godslim
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 7:01:47 AM

doesnt mean there wont be tho it looks like dmc lol

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main_event05
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 9:45:25 PM
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Not as fast as SE but I think the scale is just about the same. MG(S) is a series TWENTY-FOUR years in the making and has had a winning formula. Then all of a sudden they drop this on us.

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Akuma07
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 5:08:55 PM

So what, you think MGS should stay the same for the rest of the universe?

I know people don't like change, but this game is a SPIN OFF.

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main_event05
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 5:30:38 PM

If you wanna be so black and white about it, Yes it should stay the same.

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playSTATION
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 9:47:22 PM
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no snake = no purchase. my wallet has already made up its mind.

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maxpontiac
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 9:58:12 PM
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Some people need relax. Video games are nothing but entertainment for most of us.

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SolidFantasy
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 10:09:29 PM

That Kind of thinking could also be applied to the current fan boy console war.

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Jawknee
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 10:52:25 PM

Some view them as pieces of art. There for it's natural some would be more passionate than those who just see them as entertainment. MGS is like Van Gogh's Starry Night, Rising is like motel art.

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Buckeyestar
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 11:51:34 PM

And that is where your argument falls apart. Art is and always will be 100% subjective, one man's trash is another man's treasure. I don't like the idea of Rising any more than you, but it can still be high art to someone else.

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Jawknee
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 12:13:46 AM

It doesn't fall apart because I don't agree that all art is completely subjective. You can wrap a turd in a piece of tinfoil, put some earrings on it and claim it's art but it's still a piece of crap.

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maxpontiac
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 10:34:12 AM

Jawknee - Of course. Some may view it as such, but the fact remains that those who admire gaming as art sure get entertainment out of it.

My point was that video games should never become such a serious part of ones life. If something like Metal Gear Rising makes you mad, it might be time to find a new hobby.

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AcHiLLiA
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 1:24:49 PM

I agree max.

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Jawknee
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 1:43:06 PM

It doesn't make angry. There's just disappointment. From a artists perspective.

Last edited by Jawknee on 12/12/2011 1:43:18 PM

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Nlayer
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 9:59:57 PM
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Taking the Solid out of it makes perfect sense to me. It's not like Rising is supposed to be a continuation of MGS. It's a spin-off.

Metal Gear had two games, then they started off with Metal Gear Solid that had four games. I'm sure this Metal Gear Rising will have a sequel later on. I don't understand the hate about the naming of the title.

It'll be just as good as the other spin offs, like Metal Gear Ac!d, which was a card game.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 10:01:24 PM
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No offense to they 'die-hard' fans, but you're being ridiculous. Every Game series has a spin-off at some point, and that's not anything other than what this is. If you don't like it, don't play it. Don't purchase it. It's not MGS5, it's not TRYING to be MGS5. It's not being made my Kojima Inc. (anymore), so go ahead and assume it's not going to be a 'masterwork', though obviously it'll be a great game, just not in the genre you like. The only thing you have to accept is it is yes, in the Metal Gear universe, well no duh, it's supposed to be. But that doesn't mean everything has to be exactly the same if it's not part of the 'main series'. Personally, I can't wait because I actually enjoy Hack'n'Slash games, like DmC or Bayonetta, hell I even love Dynasty Warrior (though I haven't bought one in years since they ruined the character I like.) KK :)

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Jawknee
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 10:35:29 PM

C'mon now. You're better than that to call people who hold a different opinion than yours ridiculous. Just because you think it's all good and fine doesn't necessarily make it so. MGS is synonymous with quality. Metal Gear Rising Revengence oozes generic. It doesn't even have a good name. Revengence? That's not even a word not to mention it's redundant.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 12:18:50 AM

Maybe that's the point of the name? And I'm not saying their opinion is ridiculous for being different than mine, I'm saying for them to just straight up hate the game because it's not what they like is ridiculous. It's just the same as any rpg fanboy hating on a fps, or vice-versa. And how does it ooze generic? It's going to be slick, smooth, and it still has that sweet slicing mechanic. You make it seem like the people at Platinum aren't great at what they do. And the comments about it being 'Dynasty Warriors on crack' is just plain wrong. The game mechanics are nothing like Dynasty Warrior. DW is all about repeatedly beating down a ton of weak easily beat enemies, filling the screen with a few mini and actual bosses throughout it. While this game is going to have a set amount of characters on the screen at once essentially, it's not much different than GoW in that point, and most people seem to think that's amazing. (I do at least).

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LegendaryWolfeh
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 12:23:34 AM

Reading your comment farther down, it's obvious you don't think Platinum is a bad developer, you just don't think they should be the ones making the game. Well that's not really fair is it? How do YOU know they won't make a good game, just because it's different than the rest. Sure Kojima isn't going to take a big part, if any at all, in the making. (I'm sure he HAS to have some say in what the game is exactly doing..it's his baby and he's pretty high up in Konami, no?) So, think of it like this. If Kojima is 'letting' it happen, and 'lets' it get released, obviously it can't be a terrible game or anything. There's plenty of people who enjoy the hack genre, DmC, GoW, Bayonetta, Dante's Inferno. It doesn't have to be a miserable thing that the spin-off isn't exactly like the rest of the games. (Sure I included never went, Oh I think this game should be more action oriented, I loved MGS4 just as it was, but that doesn't mean I think other games made for other people can't be created either.)

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Jawknee
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 12:24:04 AM

Look at what they showed at E3 in 2010 and compare it to the new trailer. The game looks terrible now by comparison. Has nothing to do with hating the game just because, has everything to so with what I have already pointed out. The gameplay does not look smooth. It looks choppy as all hell and gimmicky. It was much smoother when it was just Kojima Pro working on it.

Who knows if this is what Kojima wanted. He took a hands off approach from the beginning. And while I liked Vanquish, I hated Bayonetta. Platinum can make a good game but they're not even in the same league as Kojima Pro. Castlevania was a better hack n slash game than Bayonetta.

Last edited by Jawknee on 12/12/2011 12:29:31 AM

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LegendaryWolfeh
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 1:12:34 AM

I personally never played Bayonetta any more than the demo (which supposedly was horribly bad) And I really just don't understand how you say it's choppy. The game is perfectly smooth. You don't see his sword swing, then suddenly doa glitch thing or something and swing again. The action flows perfectly. After watching it again the only thing I'm assuming you're talking about is after each combo attacks when he goes to attack a different person it takes a moment. Well, wouldn't it normally? Realistically at least it Should lag between attacking one person to the other, but that doesn't mean it's choppy. The only thing I found annoying with it was when Raiden talked, his mouth didn't seem to...talk right, haha. But oh well. Either way, everyone likes something different, and everyone can't like everything. Luckily for me I'll get to love MGS4, this game, and MGS5 (if it's made). Though honestly I would throw Rising and MGS5 out the window for a ZoE3 ;D

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Jawknee
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 1:50:23 AM

I'm tellin ya, watch the game play footage from E3 2010. The game play is much smoother and flows a lot better. The sttutering in this is what reminds me of bad hack in slash games like Dynasty Warriors. And there really shouldn't be any lag when connecting hits considering Raiden sliced through GEKO's like butter in MGS4.

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Killa Tequilla
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 7:40:08 AM

Even I noticed as I was watching the trailer that the game is not smooth. So, as of now, the game is not smooth.

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slugga_status
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 9:29:01 AM

I really don't get why people are losing it. As LegendaryWolfeh said..it's not like it's trying to be MGS5 or a MGS game at all for that matter. The trailer looked pretty good it wasn't the greatest but you can see the direction they're taking. Saying it looks terrible is just going overboard..

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Jakintosh
Thursday, December 15, 2011 @ 12:35:41 PM

@ Jawknee

While yes, I know what you mean when you say the E3 2010 demo looked much smoother, but Kojima himself has already come out to say that THAT version of the game was terrible. It wasn't fun. There was nowhere to take the concept of being able to cut everything. It was a bad game mechanic wrapped up in a beautiful and well done trailer. Or, as you put it before, "a turd wrapped up in a piece of tinfoil with some earrings on it." That is why that game was cancelled.

And I really don't understand why everyone is freaking out. This game is basically already considered Non-Canon, and is being developed by Platinum games. I have not once heard a bad thing about Bayonetta until today, on these forums. So, Platinum's history paired with the fact that this game is not even part of the Metal Gear Solid brand shouldn't be upsetting anyone. If anything, I think it's cool that there is now a branch of the Metal Gear universe that will appeal to people who don't necessarily enjoy the stealth of the Sold branch, and want more action. Be happy that others may enjoy a game from a series you love, and if you don't want to play it, then don't.

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CrusaderForever
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 10:20:57 PM
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This is a stupid idea. Metal Gear should not even be in the title. Yes the character is interesting but don't make a whole game around him. It will sell, but come one MGS5 is what every single fan wants. Why waste time on this GoW, Ninja Gaiden, Vanquish hybrid. Disappointed and it looked like Kojima was a little nervous when he was announcing that they are ready to show more. It's almost as if he came to the realization that this is a mistake on national TV!!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 10:22:55 PM
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Well I'm glad they took "solid" out at least.

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AcHiLLiA
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 1:27:46 PM

haha, if they didn't their is going to be alot of hate.

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Jawknee
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 10:31:41 PM
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I would be stoked for the game had they continued on the path they were on. Looking at the 2010 E3 trailer the animations were a lot better, the gameplay looked smoother and the graphics were cleaner. Now it's all choppy and generic looking like Bayonetta. As I said I liked Vanquish and Platinum is not a bad developer but I think Konami a big mistake handing this over to them. As good as Platinum is, Kojima Pro is better all around. At storytelling, programming you name it. Plus I think the reason I liked Vanquish is because it had Mikami's hands all over it. He's not even there anymore.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 10:53:49 PM

I know a lot of folks dug Bayonetta, but I can't think of any Metal Gear fan saying "Hmmm, this series needs more Bayonetta in it."

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Jawknee
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 11:02:03 PM

Exactly.

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enjoi
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 10:39:24 PM
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They should change the name to Raiyonetta: Lightning Cyborg.

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bebestorm
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 10:44:43 PM
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I don't understand why people are upset because this was always a spin off and going to be totally different than MGS. I loved Bayonetta and Vanquish. Kojima has been giving out more info since last night so Im cool with it. Im looking forward to see how this exchanged hands and why Platinum was chosen.
Now I would love the truth from Fumito Ueda and Sony about The Last Guardian!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 10:54:48 PM

the truth is a different producer left Team Ico... in order to make facebook games.

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cLoudou
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 11:09:24 PM
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Waiting on the Grey Fox spinoff.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 11:24:05 PM

Sunny

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LegendaryWolfeh
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 12:19:49 AM

Where's Scarecrow? He's still in love with a Sunny MGS I'm sure, haha.

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BikerSaint
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 10:45:35 PM

Meryl spin-off FTW

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CheddarClyde
Sunday, December 11, 2011 @ 11:52:42 PM
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Why do I have a strange feeling Metal Gear may be removed from the title before this is released. I'm fine with spinoffs and trying something different with the franchise, but when I saw the trailer for this last night I kept wondering if Dante would have a cameo in this somehow. Everything from the combat to the over-the-top nature reeks of DMC and while that's not necessarily a bad thing, it isn't true to Metal Gear. This could turn into a Metroid Other M, but I'll wait and see before I pass judgment.

Let this be a lesson to us all. If you have a game franchise that has a decades-long legacy behind it, NEVER outsource it to anyone.

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Jawknee
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 12:19:54 AM

Well, God of War was outsourced to Ready at Dawn for the PSP titles and those turned out great. Also Sony is having different studios do the Killzone and Uncharted Vita titles and those look promising. Not to mention Nintendo outsourced Metroid to Retro for the Prime series and those are phenomenal.

Outsourcing can work, I think it just depends on the direction the said studio takes the game.

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CheddarClyde
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 9:16:07 AM

I tend not to count the handhelds (I don't know why), but yeah good point about Metroid Prime. I also forgot about Donkey Kong Country as well.

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Neo_Aeon666
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 1:13:16 AM
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Bah the way I see it its just an action game in the metal gear universe. Nothing wrong with it. And if platinum games is making it... It will probably rock.

I dont think any fans should be angry. Maybe only the xbox crowd XD for only getting an action title and still missing out on mgs4 and maybe 5. Fans of games like Warcraft werent angry with World of warcraft. Same universe, different games. Dont see any kind of trouble.

On a side note: You talked about ZoE3 omg I hope he is working on that! Remember how people used to say ZoE2 was more fitted to ba called a PS2.5 title (since it kicked so much ass)? I hope its going to be the same for the 3rd one! So pretty and awesome it will be discribed as a PS3.5 title! lol

Last edited by Neo_Aeon666 on 12/12/2011 1:16:10 AM

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___________
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 1:43:23 AM
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despite not being a MGS game, and slapping the MGS title on it being a massive insult, im really looking forward to this!
i LOVE hack and slash games, we dont get any where near enough of them!
so in that aspect im really happy PG revived this.
look at it this way, if PG were not developing this we would not have it at all!
konami canned it and PG were so interested in it they came and saved the day.
no its not a MGS game, but id rather a descrace to the MGS title, then missing out on what looks like such a cool game!
if it means sullying the name a little, then so be it!

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AnonymousPoster
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 2:44:48 AM
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Soooo, by this logic, "Final Fantasy Mystic Quest" should have been called "Final Fantasy V"??

Have people not been paying attention? We've known from the very first day when Rising was revealed that it would be an action-y spin-off which is not helmed by Kojima. This is extremely old news. The only new thing is Platinum Games' involvement, and they're a fantastic developer!

I'm glad that "Solid" has been removed from the title. It's clearly a different type of product, and it always has been. Making it part of the Solid series would just cheapen what has been done there. Should they have called a couple of those PSP games "Metal Gear Solid: Card Battle Action"??

Let this game be its own thing. Sheesh.

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Jawknee
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 3:27:10 AM

It being an action game or a spinoff is not what bothers me personally, it's that they went from this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtM3PGyiQUc

Which looks cleaner, smoother and awesome to the travesty that is now this:

http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/10335.html

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___________
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 8:38:54 AM

dude, you totally dont get it!
fans are so upset because when they first showed rising it actually still felt like a MGS game.
even koji himself said on twitter the other day that when it went to PG they changed it, it had slight MGS tendencies to it but since they got onto it there gone it now has nothing to do with MGS.
thats why fans are so pissed off, simply because they came out and showed this really cool game that still has roots back to MGS, then yanked the mat from under their feet!

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Neo_Aeon666
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 12:09:45 PM

Well I am a fan. I am not pissed about them making a spinoff heck Kojima is not even touching it and its not the same type of game.

But I agree with Jawk. The 2010 trailer was WAY nicer. This is just some Bayonetta/devil may cry clone with MG skins on it. I really loved how you could chop every one up in the previous version. The gameplay mechanics seemed fresh. Now it seems to only be in the finisher moves that you can cut people up... Kinda completely takes out the realism they put in it before. So I am angry they gave that to PG completely now but I don't give a crap about it being an action title. A new MG will be made at some point and by Kojima himself. I can wait.

Last edited by Neo_Aeon666 on 12/12/2011 12:11:29 PM

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AnonymousPoster
Tuesday, December 13, 2011 @ 4:09:59 AM

That's the trouble with initial concept trailers: things change. Things may even still change from this new trailer. Remember when MGS4 was criticized for having a terrible framerate?? I'm willing to bet that everything which was shown at E3 2010 was simply a proof-of-concept level. There was no story. No discernible setting. Just something that looked like a lot of MGS4 assets thrown in a blender with Raiden and a cutting mechanic.

Why do you think we hadn't heard from it in so long? I doubt very much of anything was firmly together at that point. Now it's been revealed that it was actually cancelled before Platinum came along. The team behind it didn't seem to know what they were making (shades of FF13, if you ask me).

I'll take some Metal Gear over no Metal Gear. Let someone with a cohesive vision take a whack at it.

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Fox hounder
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 3:50:45 AM
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Well, here is some good news, MG Rising in a non-canon Metal Gear game.

http://andriasang.com/comzba/mg_rising_details/#

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Fox hounder
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 10:14:01 AM

Or maybe i should say it "implies" that Rising in non-canon

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Buster
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 4:35:18 AM
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I think people need to look at the title more. Its not MGS game it a MG like branching.
Does this not happen in movies and other games ?
COD:1,COD:2,COD:2 Big Red One, COD:4 MWF, COD, World at War, COD: MWF2, COD, COD, COD, COD.
Battle Field does the same, Star Trek shows do the same each are different. Almost every TV show does this NCIS, NCIS:LA-this episode. Each of of them are different but related always some how.
Fact is I love the MG series but it is what it is a MG games. Raiden is there, Metal Gear Units are in there, there are references that link it to MGS. Regardless of game play and spin offs it is MG. There is nothing unrelated about it to disprove it.
Ever the military does it with everything. Medical, Engineering, sciences, books do it.
It it MGS NO!!! Is it MG YES!!!!
However Rising and Reverence need to be changed. Rising well that would imply a start of something farther then what they are showing and I dont think this games does that. Revengeance you are getting pay back for something that happen in the past. Unless this series wants to have a short life in one game then its ok.

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daus26
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 6:05:12 AM
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Nevermind the title. I'm just really furious on how the game has changed. The one from the E3 2010 trailer looks ten fold better. It has much better graphics, not too far fetched action, and plus, imo, "Lightning Bolt Action" is better fitting than Revenge+Vengeance = Revengeance.

I respect Platinum, but knowing their style from their past two games, and the VGA trailer, it just doesn't look like it's fitting for Raiden's character and the Metal Gear Universe. I'd have to agree with Jawknee that it just looks like Dynasty Warriors on crack.

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Ultimadream
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 6:50:31 AM
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I am going to be as honest as I can about this title. The gameplay... actually looks pretty good, I have absolutley no problem what so ever with the gameplay. I knew this would be more of a hack and slash styled game over MGS's espionage.

My problem is the story, and for a series which has been built up for 20 years, with some of the most memorable characters in gaming I would say it is very important. I was happy having thr story set between MGS2 & MGS4. Okay, I felt it was not really needed, but it was at least plausible. Having the game set after MGS4 is anything but plausible. Raiden's story is over, through MGS2 & 4 He went through a lot and transformed as a character and as a person. At the end of MGS4 he found peace, now with this they have just ignored that completely. I don't know why Raiden is back as a ninja or what tragedy has happened after MGS4 to get him into the position of this game, but I know it should not be happening.

My other problems is the visuals, they are just too over the top for a Metal Gear game, That Metal Gear with the sword was just silly and of course Raiden can just pick it up and chuck it where he pleases. Sure MGS is not exactly realistic, but just like Tekken, I can see it going towards that anime direction and I dont like it one bit.

I don't care about the title, they can say this is not a 'Metal Gear Solid' title, but in my opinion this really should not be a part of the series at all. All I want from Metal Gear now is a game that ties Peace Walker to MG1 (Which was the point of PW to begin with...) Heck, they could even go beyond that and let us replay an updated version of MG1 & MG2 How awesome would that be.

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Lotusflow3r
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 7:15:10 AM
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The new Rising trailer was hilarious. It felt like satire.....absolutely ridiculous.

Ahh dear....won't be long until mainstream gaming is as bad as mainstream film and music.

Last edited by Lotusflow3r on 12/12/2011 7:16:17 AM

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Beamboom
Tuesday, December 13, 2011 @ 11:11:44 AM

Satire - you nailed it. That's *exactly* what it looked like.

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Temjin001
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 9:58:14 AM
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I'm a long time MGS fan(yep, stayed up late playing the first PSX release on day one).
I've loved the series ever since. Maybe it's just not my character or behaviour to whine and be annoyed by feelings of being betrayed as a loyal prestigious fan whose entitled to better =p but I don't have any problem drawing the division in my mind that the existence of this game is clearly a spin-off and doesn't replace the ongoing series that's known for it's stealth action play and richly told story.
I'll pretend to be offended though... *puts on angry-whiney-loser-mask* "Argh can't stand the Metal Gear title font. LOOK AT IT! It's clearly ripping off Metallica!.. never buying this game. ARGH SO PISSED!"

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telly
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 10:38:23 AM
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I have absolutely no problem with this. The original MGS: Rising concept wasn't working out, so they went in a new direction. Seeing reports the game isn't even canon, they're just trying to make an interesting action game with Metal Gear characters and locales. I'm cool with that. It's not like we'll never get another proper tactical espionage action game ever again -- be it a "Next Generation" style reboot, a new series with the TEA gameplay, or a flat out sequel of some sort to MGS, we'll get more of the stealth we love, mark my words. I say just judge this one on its own merits. Maybe it will be terrible! But maybe it'll be fun. We'll know soon enough.

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Twistedfloyd
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 11:04:53 AM
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Even if it's a new direction it just has nothing that resembles MGS. And what the hell is Revengeance anyway?

At least Rising originally was an interesting thought with a story driven game with Hunter Stealth. This just isn't Metal Gear. It's not worthy of having that in its name.

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sha4dowknight05
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 1:57:15 PM
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They never occured to me that raiden was like snake and liked to hide and sneak around. Raiden goes guns (or swords should i say) blazing upfront action killing and swinging geckos killing machine kinda guy. Didn't we all learn that from the fight he had with VAMP??

This is a hack and slash and this is what should have been expected.

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Akuma07
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 5:13:24 PM
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People expected MGS5 with Raiden as the main character, Kojima heading the development, and Raiden using his sword alot.

Seriously, that is what people expected.

Sometimes, hardcore 'fans' are just babies. From the beginning we knew this was going to be a SPINOFF, we knew it was going to focus on action-adventure rather then stealth. You all knew exactly what to expect, but you still expected a full blown MGS. People like that, are exactly why Kojima isn't allowed to try something new, you all want him to keep cranking out MGS' or ZoE games for the rest of his life.

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Jawknee
Monday, December 12, 2011 @ 5:57:46 PM

I suggest you read the comments. Not on just this site but on others. The overwhelming complaint is that were are not getting the same game that was shown at E3 in 2010. It's been known from the beginning that this wasn't going to be a proper MGS title. No surprises there. But now we are getting something entirely different that what was first promised and many are not happy about that.

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