Combat Sim Powered By CryEngine 3 Will Blow You Away
See Full ImageThe Army has been using video game technology in combat simulations for years. And as technology has gotten better, those simulated battlegrounds have appropriately started to leap off the screen.
Just look at what they're doing with the CryEngine 3. Here are two trailers from the new Dismounted Soldier Training System; bear in mind that you're looking at a $57 million project from RealTime Immersive, Inc.
The first trailer is called an "in-game cinematic" and it's rendering a very large area.
The second shows off the technology involved, and that includes combat and what appears to be a little convertible submarine.
No, sorry, this is specifically for training purposes, so you won't be able to "play" it. But at the rate we're going, Call of Duty will look like this in a few years time. ...okay, maybe not CoD with its 73-year-old engine that Activision refuses to upgrade, but some shooter might look like this.
Tags: army training sim, cryengine 3, combat simulator
12/23/2011 9:53:14 AM Ben Dutka
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rogers71
Friday, December 23, 2011 @ 10:33:34 AM
My worry comes from the fact that these kids are using strategic flanking methods and mimicing what they have learned from these war games.
You bring up a valid worry but at the same time, it is ultimately up to the parent(s) of the child(ren) to teach these kids right and wrong and real vs. fake. Great discussion Highlander.
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CrusaderForever
Friday, December 23, 2011 @ 10:49:56 AM
My son just turned 4 and I am going to introduce him to his first game soon. He has watched me play literally 20 minutes so far of his life, that's it. I always shut it off right after he comes in the room. The other day he saw me playing Trine 2 and was instantly in love with it. "Dad, I want to watch that" "Dad, that is so cool!". Even though I was in a beautiful looking area figuring out a puzzle with no baddies around I got nervous. It's up to us to do the right thing for our kids.
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Cesar_ser_4
Friday, December 23, 2011 @ 11:06:30 AM
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Qubex
Friday, December 23, 2011 @ 11:13:20 AM
I would say that CryEngine 3 and Frostbyte engines are pretty much on par. I am sure Frostbyte will be just as good or better when iteration 3 comes along in a year or so's time...
Nonetheless it does show how great the application of these technologies are to every day situations, especially situations of war.
It is a shame humanity has to go this route though. It would be best if we didn't have wars, killing and bloodshed like we have had in the past. 2011 itself, has been an incredibly eventful year, more so than what I can remember before.
It just seems global volatility has been extreme with some incredible events having taken place and are continuing to reverberate worldwide as we speak (or type in this case).
Q!
"play.experience.enjoy"
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Temjin001
Friday, December 23, 2011 @ 12:53:03 PM
If someone would mod a Dualshock 3 to a gun I'd be a real mean man. Better yet, get this, a keyboard and mouse to a gun.
"oh, you just wait until I find a flat surface to aim at you on, Al Queda scum!"
=p
anyway, yeah, there's not a enough Gospel games to balance out the military death games. I'd feel more comfortable seeing kids mimmicking Mormon missionaries than shooting thugs dead, yelling "EAT LEAD COBRA!"
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NiteKrawler
Friday, December 23, 2011 @ 4:34:24 PM
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SubjectiveTruth
Friday, December 23, 2011 @ 5:20:46 PM
I would say that you would be farther ahead to get out in real life and go hunting than sit inside and play MW3 or BF if you want to learn about killing and death. I live in a rural area and hunting is part of life here. I can tell you that when I kill someone in MW I feel good.I beat another person in competition. It has nothing to do with the actual thought of having killed someone. When I pull the trigger on a dear, foul or any other game animal it is an entirely different feeling. I can't imagine any way of simulating ending another living things life. If it is a simulation, you will always be aware that it is not really alive. Even if things get really matrix like, where you are unaware you are in a simulation until you exit it, you still won't be able to kill anything any easier once you exit the simulation and realize you've still never killed any other living thing. If virtual killing was the same as reality, you'd find all the worst serial killers at the top of the MW3 leader boards.
NOW what these simulations might actually be good at is teaching people battle tactics. The same way that a racing simulator could teach someone how to take a corner. Or how a flight simulator can teach you to fly a plane. You can put all the same controls into someones hands and simulate the physics by computer which makes the virtual plane or car behave like a real one. Physics and control values can be put into numbers and turned into a simulation but the emotion of killing and death can't be.
No matter how many plane crashes or car accidents a person virtually experiences, they will still be scared in the event that they find themselves in a real accident because they know that the virtual one wont really kill them but the real one might.
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Rogueagent01
Saturday, December 24, 2011 @ 10:19:42 AM
The one thing I can say about this is no simulator/game teaches you too kill. Sure it teaches tactics, knowledge, muscle memory, and gives the ability to think without thinking. But in no way do they circumvent the conscious. Even when you sign up to the military and go through boot camp and even several other training courses you won't know if your a killer until the moment comes. Many soldiers have a mental breakdown after their first real kill, especially at close range. No simulator can duplicate this even real life training does not have that ability. I am not saying let you 5 year old play CoD or BF3 but if you bring them up right and limit their time with these games then they should be fine.
I myself was brought up around felons, played and watched violent movies and games at a really young age, and also played with every possible toy that resembled a real weapon. And the funny thing is as an adult I am Buddhist and a total passivist, reinforcing the fact that if your parents teach you right from wrong that you will LIKELY turn out ok. Don't get me wrong I was a violent little teenager, but I attribute much of that to sports and the coaches who encouraged it amongst our wrestling team. They would get us out of trouble within the schools and even with the cops if we got into fights. Those coaches were far more harmful then any movie, game, or toy ever was as they tried to brainwash us into being monsters. In their defense this area is known for turning out some of the worlds best wrestlers, thousands have gone on to Iowa and even to the Olympics from this area.
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CrusaderForever
Friday, December 23, 2011 @ 10:39:00 AM
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Temjin001
Friday, December 23, 2011 @ 11:22:16 AM
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Lairfan
Saturday, December 24, 2011 @ 4:18:13 PM
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Temjin001
Friday, December 23, 2011 @ 11:19:24 AM
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Maybe Crytek will take all of these hard earned assests and turn some sort of game out of them all while they're doing this military simulator stuff.
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Geobaldi
Friday, December 23, 2011 @ 11:21:35 AM
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Arma 3 next year is another that will bring some pretty good eye candy to the front lines.
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Teddie9
Friday, December 23, 2011 @ 12:08:46 PM
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JMO_INDY2
Friday, December 23, 2011 @ 12:37:14 PM
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Ultimadream
Friday, December 23, 2011 @ 4:10:41 PM
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SolidFantasy
Friday, December 23, 2011 @ 6:50:56 PM
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trinichinese
Friday, December 23, 2011 @ 9:07:58 PM
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trinichinese
Friday, December 23, 2011 @ 9:09:01 PM
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___________
Saturday, December 24, 2011 @ 2:44:48 AM
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makes id tech 5 and frostbite 2 look like childsplay!
crytek may be sell outs, but god dam do they know their way around hardware!
i cant wait to see what homefront 2 looks like!
if its anything like some of the mods popping up for crysis 2, that above trailer may not be as far off as we think!
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Lairfan
Saturday, December 24, 2011 @ 4:20:30 PM
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___________
Sunday, December 25, 2011 @ 7:40:45 AM
have you seen the titanic render?
a little trailer to show what that movie would look like if it was made today, in the CE3.
freaking mind blowing!!!!!!!
makes epics samaratan demo look like childs play!
and that was for a next gen engine.........
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Geobaldi
Sunday, December 25, 2011 @ 10:33:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_IKqjb9TRY
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Highlander
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Friday, December 23, 2011 @ 10:20:30 AM
If this is what a combat training system looks like and handles like, are the things that we call games really anything other than combat training systems? Or, to put it in the terms that a lawyer that is disliked across the gaming world would put it. If this training system designed to teach soldiers how to kill more effectively is how 1st person action video games can look in a short while, doesn't that really make the games the same - training systems designed to teach the user how to kill more effectively. Or to put it in the truly emotional terms that this particular lawyer is fond of, doesn't this suggest that out games are little more than murder simulators?
To be serious for a moment, because I don't fully buy into the line that particular legal eagle spins; doesn't it make you feel a little uneasy that what we call a video game is within a whisker of passing as a military training simulation? Does that not worry anyone? I mean, if the military is willing to pour millions of dollars into development and provisioning of this tool to train combat troops, there has to be something to this idea of using it as a combat training aid, right? So doesn't it more or less logically follow, perhaps inescapably, that Call of Duty, Battlefield 3 and other similar games are almost as effective as the 'pro' version?
I really find this a concerning thought. Millions of gamers playing something that 5 years ago *would* have passed as the 'pro' version of a combat training simulator. And these gamers are putting how many hours into these 'games'?
Yikes.