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Jaffe On PSN Pass, Demo, Patch For Twisted Metal

David Jaffe likes to put himself in front of the camera every now and then, and when he does, it's always worth watching. Trust us.

His latest vid is a good half-hour in length - see it below - and he has a lot to say about...well, a lot of things. But he eventually gets around to talking about various topics related to Twisted Metal, including the now-mandatory PSN Pass, the upcoming demo, and a day-one patch the team has planned.

Jaffe says he's sort of torn about online passes as he tends to support the idea. However, he didn't want it in his game, as he feels it adds another level of restriction that TM really doesn't need. Still, as he says, "it's Sony's game" and as they funded it, the PSN Pass really wasn't Jaffe's call. As for the patch, they wanted to fix a few things; specifically, the fact that the "Sixaxis Slam" (shaking the controller does more damage with a vehicle ram) was just too effective.

Here's the "epic-ass" ramble:

Man, February 14 can't get here fast enough.

Related Game(s): Twisted Metal

Tags: twisted metal, david jaffe, twisted metal demo, psn pass

1/23/2012 10:01:44 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (25 posts)

Temjin001
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 10:14:45 AM
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The next few weeks are already looking pretty packed. Let's see, FFXIII-2, SCV, Twisted Metal. Will any of these be early goty contenders?

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Temjin001
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 11:28:49 AM

hehe, oh man, 1 and 3. So are we saying neither of these games have a prayer? Okay, I know, SCV is a stretch. But FF(famitsu loves it) and TM... TM man, where's the love from the Sony fans?

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CrusaderForever
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 2:17:26 PM

Sorry Temjin001, these are going to be great games but not GOTY. I don't think "The" GOTY candidate will be released until 11/2012 TLOU! I honestly think KoA:R could be a candidate as well.

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Temjin001
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 4:54:39 PM

Oh, no don't give Kingoms an acronym just yet. After it goes obscure from sucking people will have to type the whole name out just to identify it properly for others.

SOrry, why does it seem I'm the only one here who thinks the game isn't fried rice? The menus are ugly, the art design is poor(Sorry, McFarlane, Spawn was cool, but leave the fantasy stuff to the other guys). No one is put off by the WoW'ish looking textures and and crappy animation? sigh, anyway, I hope the critics who actually play the game and give it more of chance find more value than I. 'nuff about that.

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CrusaderForever
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 5:07:46 PM

I will let KoA:R do the talking when it comes out next month. I enjoyed the demo and liked everything about it except the camera movement right and left. I fixed that though in the options. I thought the art design/graphics were great! I wouldn't get to down on a 4 month old demo either. Pass judgement on the final product. The combat alone is a breath of fresh air compared to my beloved Skyrim. I am just happy can enjoy both games.

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OptimusX
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 10:40:35 AM
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Jaffe is the man.

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Looking Glass
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 10:40:40 AM
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David Jaffe is one of the most interesting people in the industry. There's certainly no doubt about that.

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Excelsior1
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 10:44:30 AM
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One of the most frustrating experiences I have had this generation is with the online pass system EA put in Mass Effect 2. To gain access to the "definitive" PS3 version of ME2 which included all the add on missions and comic you had to enter a one time code. To do this you had to create an EA account, and then download the cerebus pack. Turns out the cerebus network was down for 4 freaking days so there was no download the cerebus pack. EA had many hours of SINGLE player game content locked out with that damn code. I knew I was screwed when I called EA and the automatic voice message startred off with a message about problems redeeming your ME2 code.

What was even more infurating is later finding out if I wanted to play those add on missions I would have to restart my game after I downloaded the cerebus pack. Mass Effect 2 is a single player game as well so that online pass was totally uncalled for.

Yes, any barriers that are placed in front of gamers to get a game up and running are bad in my opinion.

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Temjin001
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 11:00:51 AM

I share the pain, but Cerebus Network access is a bit different than standard Game Passes. I don't have a problem with an online play pass, like PSN Pass. I don't think it unfair for a publisher to ask for a service payment to host online servers for you to play your game, which comes free for a person who buys the game new. Now, EA, on the otherhand, as you've stated, is complicating the process with an unnecessary level of frustration just to access the core game's assets. Couldn't they just ditch the Cerebus Network and include that stuff as tradtional DLC from PSN or XBLM?

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jimmyhandsome
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 11:25:18 AM

Agreed. The Online pass, IMO, is the single worse thing implemented by publishers this generation.

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swapnilgyani
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 3:18:33 PM

@ Temjin001

Why do the publishers need extra money over the resale? If I sell my game to you, they'll have a new person playing on their servers, while a person who was already on their server now goes offline. Where's the justification for that extra money?

Honda didn't make money when I sold my old motorcycle!

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Temjin001
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 4:26:20 PM

And who pays for the road you drive your Honda on? Or do you expect the tennis court to be provided for you free of charge after having purchased your tennis racket and ball?
There was a time when online was a supplemental component, optional that added value to the already substantial single player offering. During that time gamestop was a much smaller entity. There wasn't a retailer who changed the landscape of profit margins. Now, because of the re-sell market, and the explosion of online gaming demand(which necessitate's increased server expense overhead), developers need to ask for more. You realize that if it wasn't for this, charging online game players more for online game play, there'd be a very real possibility of a MSRP price hike for everyone, even the game players who don't want the online?
Do people really tire from complaining and whining and thinking they're owed something? You're not being taken advantage of, so why don't you say thank you to the people who no doubt offer you a place to sink your entertainment. And if that's too hard to swallow, consider the more budget minded game platforms on the market, like handhelds.

btw, as you can tell, I spare little compasion for the addicts who complain. No offense, but the game development can be a cut-throat market and few will risk screwing you over. So people just need to get that out of their head.

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swapnilgyani
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 4:48:25 PM

In both your analogies, I already purchased "road" and the "tennis court" when I bought the console.

It's not about being owed something, it's about publishers being forever hungry for more of your $$$. Yes, that is just like any other company from any other industry out there, but does that make it right?

If you're happy to pay them more than they deserve, that's good for you. Not everyone is in the same boat though...

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Temjin001
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 5:04:04 PM

Sigh, no, your console isn't a service you silly goose. See, when you sold that Honda to the other guy, both of you all along were paying taxes out for the road you drive it on.

Just keep whining and keep paying out for the games. I've said it before, the worst kind of customers are those who moan and grown about injustice, where, in the end, they end up coughing up the money to the retailer anyway. Or is that the best kind of business? The business that still can take the money from those who are unhappy with thier product. Few, dare I say, will uphold their supposed values and do it justice by restraining their hand from partaking of the thing they claim to revoke.
Remember, Rage? Remember those on these boards who joined the feel good bandwagon of boycotting it. I have little doubt no less than one or two of them did in fact play it after their outcries of injustice. Anyway, I really need to focus on my homework, so if you think to disagree or come up with another analogy that fails a tautology table, don't expect me to respond.

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swapnilgyani
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 6:02:31 PM

Three things:

1. If you feel that paying for the console is not like paying for the road or the tennis court, then you are effectively advocating the fee that Microsoft charges their users to play online. Think about it.

2. Who is the worse type of consumer - the one who at least makes some noise about an injustice, or the one who just shrugs his shoulders and convinces himself that everything is fine and justified.

3. What's with getting personal?

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I do agree with one point you make, though. If I am convinced that a company is trying to rip me off, I should vote with my wallet, which I will.

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Temjin001
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 6:14:51 PM

I want to argue and explain all three of these and pretend to feel good about myself but I wont because I don't want to be awnry anymore.

But yeah, sorry for being so aggressive. I'll moderate my attitude going forward.

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firesoul453
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 11:37:13 AM
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The PSN pass thing is really dumb. It almost makes me want to buy used games and not purchase a pass so sony gets no money.

Ya I guess I'll still be getting this game but I definetly choose a game with no pass over a game with a pass when I have limited budget.







PSN pass can only lead to one thing, and thats paying (monthly or yearly) for multiplayer...

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Sir Dan
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 12:14:20 PM
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At 9:45 I became too exausted to go on so I stopped...

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PSTan
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 12:39:29 PM
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Buy new, there isn't really much of a difference. If you can't buy at that time, wait for a price drop. I only buy single player experiences used anyway. This online pass system is a way to prevent publishers from losing money, and it maintains their servers for both single player and multiplayer content.

If you think about it, PSN is fundamentally free when compared to Live. So in a way, these online passes are a way to keep this service free (for first party titles anyway), because those passes help pay for stuff we don't pay for. Besides, who doesn't want to support developers with their works? Game development is evolving into multi million dollar projects, and they need to get the money somewhere somehow.

In the end, buying a used game for $5 less isn't really worth it.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 1:44:41 PM
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Gaming has shortened my attention span, I can't watch all that :)

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CrusaderForever
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 2:30:25 PM
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Yeah, this dude is pretty cool. Very entertaining and obviously doing what he really loves to do. Twisted Metal will be huge fan service for all TM fans. I am so looking forward to experiencing TM for the first time. Uuhhhggg, if I could go back and change anything it would be to buy a PS1 and PS2. Better late than never I guess.

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maxpontiac
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 3:12:49 PM
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PSN pass or not, I pre-ordered it, and am looking forward to TM.

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dirdiggler
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 5:51:18 PM
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I also pre-ordered this game so the pass don't mean anything to me.BUT, i think with this online pass there needs to be a FREE 1hr trial. I recently payed 10$ for a online pass thinking i'd 100% get my money's worth. I played 15min an will never play it again idk bout anyone else, but i just got bent over an fleeced cause i drank the koolaid an bought into there scam. Never again..

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Twistedfloyd
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 7:16:49 PM
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Just seeing that game actually exists warms my heart and makes me go insane. I simply cannot wait much longer.

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___________
Tuesday, January 24, 2012 @ 1:07:39 AM
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meh.
really wanted to get this, but $ony going back to their usual tricks and making us wait till march has pushed it out of my preorder list.
cancelled it today and put the money towards the ME3 N7 edition instead.

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