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Rumor: Assassin's Creed III Tackles The American Revolution

Well, this ought to get people talking, right?

Assassin's Creed has allowed players to explore multiple beautiful locations, all in Europe and all historically important in some way. The atmosphere is part of what makes this series so amazing; the immersion offered is almost unparalleled. And we're pretty sure Ubisoft is tackling a new setting and protagonist for Assassin's Creed III; it's time for a change, after all.

There are a ton of possibilities, of course, but has the reality already been leaked? A Best Buy employee emailed Kotaku two images from the retailer's employee news section; one says Ubisoft will unveil the new AC title on March 5 (that's next week), and the other is a piece of promotional art. You see part of it here; click through the link to see the full photo. It's enough to give you goosebumps.

This supports the rumors that the game might take place during the American Revolution, which - if done correctly - could be downright incredible. In the background is a clear picture of the Continental flag, and the assassin is wearing an 18th-century military jacket. There also appears to be some Native American influence. If this is indeed what's going on in ACIII, color us pumped. Seriously.

Tags: ac3, assassins creed 3, assassins creed iii, assassins creed sequel

2/29/2012 8:54:01 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (90 posts)

sha4dowknight05
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 @ 9:11:36 PM
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SEEMS LEGIT.

Still awesome either way. Whoever drew the Assassin on this did an outstanding job!!

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Lord carlos
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 @ 9:16:46 PM
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NICE

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fatelementality
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 @ 9:20:27 PM
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Fable III much? Sorry, that was the 1st thing that popped in my head. Prey was actually the next. Hmmm......not sure what I think of this. Probably need to see more. I'm sure I'll end up loving the final product, but I'm waiting for badass futuristic AC. Guess they'll get to that by the next 6 or 7 sequels. I'm not even halfway through Revelations right now and a single player DLC just came out for it. I've only beaten the other games once each. Jesus Ubisoft, quit cranking titles out so freakin fast and let an aging gamer catch the f*** up. Please?

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fatelementality
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 11:58:29 AM

Guess nobody has a sense of humor anymore.

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Jawknee
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 3:06:32 PM

Fable sucks.

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fatelementality
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 8:43:21 PM

Never said it didn't. Well, the 1st one was good.

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Underdog15
Friday, March 02, 2012 @ 9:13:52 AM

I enjoyed the first one, as well. Never played the other 2, so don't know.

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RaYz89
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 @ 9:22:23 PM
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This look awesome, but I was hoping to have an asian (China/Japan) journey next after seeing AC Embers~

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ColTater
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 @ 9:28:59 PM
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I think an asian one would be cool as well, but then again it might have a Tenchu vibe to it. Although the AC series has a much better all around production value than Tenchu ever did. Would be nice if we had a current gen Tenchu to compare it too.

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Sogi_Otsa
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 @ 9:36:31 PM
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highly possible.
but the 3 part series hinges on Desmond's story coming to a close. i like this idea. but i want to see his story hit the floor front and center, he's learned a lot, let's see him use it for real.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 @ 9:48:10 PM

Don't worry Ubisoft will find a way to squeeze six or seven more games into his story somehow.

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Sogi_Otsa
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 7:34:41 AM

yeah i hate how they did that. this should cap the main series, but i doubt it will.

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bebestorm
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 @ 9:47:15 PM
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American Revolution would be good...
Im ready for a sweet trailer. UBI always makes sweet trailers.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 @ 9:47:29 PM
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That is a great idea, if there are enough changes made I might be willing to give this series a fourth chance. Maybe.

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telly
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 9:31:24 AM

I've yet to really get hooked on this one either, but this is such an incredible premise for a game I may have to get it another go too. Can you imagine sneaking around Revolutionary War-era battlegrounds, sort of an 18th century Old Snake? SUCH a great idea.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 2:33:40 PM

And, (I know I might get flak for this) they could even have long range rifle assassinations because they were experimenting with snipers at this time.

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dlte
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 @ 10:14:37 PM
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Scaling the churches of colonial Boston, New York, and Philly? Yes, please.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 @ 11:50:06 PM

Lame. Small, lame, and few and far between. Gimme some interesting European architecture. Seriously... that stuff's artistic to the -extreme-.

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wackazoa
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 10:22:14 AM

Ah come on underdog..... didnt you ever see Last of the Mohicans ?

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maxpontiac
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 10:59:43 AM

Sorry Underdog, but the game series has been on that side of the world for how many games now?

Nothing wrong with spreading the love world wide.

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Beamboom
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 11:18:33 AM

@Max; Well then have them go Asian then. Or South American. Or African. Or Australian. Or ANYWHERE but yet another trip to the U.S. of the effing A!

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Underdog15
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 1:04:00 PM

I'm with Beamboom. One of the awesome things about Assassin's Creed is the world history, world architecture, and diverseness.

How many games in how many series have been about the US or at least praising their perceived abilities? Isn't it time we had a series spread the love?

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maxpontiac
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 2:32:18 PM

Beamboom/Underdog - That argument while valid with OTHER titles, doesn't work here for two reasons.

1 - The USA has never been featured in this series.

2 - By all means, point to a game that had our War of Independence as the backdrop. It's an experience I look forward to!

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Underdog15
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 3:10:57 PM

There's a lot of other wars I'd be much more interested in. Even the civil war would be more interesting as it has many more themes involving controlling people: a core theme in the way the Templars think.

At any rate, I think our points are more than valid.

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maxpontiac
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 9:01:06 PM

Underdog. Of course you do, and of course you didn't answer my challenge in pointing out a game that features the US War of Indepedence.

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Beamboom
Friday, March 02, 2012 @ 2:06:03 AM

@Max:

1 - Not in THIS series, no. This one, single, isolated case there's been little americans. And you apparently think that's an argument for bringing USA into this series TOO? "There's no american backdrop here, ergo it is missing"?

2 - I can't. Still, that's no argument either, in my opinion. This is the ONE series that takes place in Europe. The one quality series where we can enjoy a different backdrop than the american one. The single exception in a WALL of american content.


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SirLoin of Beef
Friday, March 02, 2012 @ 7:26:54 AM

"Not in THIS series, no. This one, single, isolated case there's been little americans."

"This is the ONE series that takes place in Europe. The one quality series where we can enjoy a different backdrop than the american one. The single exception in a WALL of american content."

Are you seriously saying the AC is the only series that is devoid of American content? Are you saying that with a straight face? If so, you really need to start playing video games more because there are scores of games out there that aren't American (other than the fact that the voice actors have a more American accent).

If you're searching for illusive, non-American content in video games for this generation, I can suggest some for you:
- God of War 3
- Sykrim (heck, Oblivion doesn't have any, either)
- Dragon Age: Origins
- Dragon Age II
- Uncharted 2 (yes, the "stars" are mainly American but all of the action takes place in non-American locales)
- Assassin's Creed
- Assassin's Creed II
- Assassin's Creed Brotherhood
- Assassin's Creed Revelations
- Bulletstorm
- Little Big Planet
- Little Big Planet 2
- Any NHL game. Sure, most of locations are in the US but a majority of the players are not so that's a bonus, right?
- Final Fantasy XIII
- Final Fantasy XIII-2
- Kingdoms of Amalur
- Yakuza 4 (or whatever number it's on)
- Most of the fighting in any of the Call of Duty games takes place outside of the US and in a few you also play as a British soldier, so bonus points there.
- Killzone 3
- Mass Effect 2
- Soul Calibur V

If you have an Xbox 360, you can also play the following that have no American content (other than some Americans playing roles in the game):
- Mass Effect
- Gears of War
- Gears of War 2
- Gears of War 3
- Halo 3
- Halo 3: ODST
- Halo Reach
- Halo Wars
- Fable II
- Fable III

There's more out there if you look. Don't fret! There's a lot of non-American content out there!!

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Underdog15
Friday, March 02, 2012 @ 9:17:11 AM

@Max
I didn't realize it was a challenge. lol

I thought you were making a point. A point I didn't detract from because you're right. Clearly, we all know there isn't a game that focuses on that time frame. At least not recently. (I don't know of one, but there's a lot of old games I don't know about)

But that's still of no concern to me. I still don't feel the best place to start is with the AC franchise for all the good points that have already been raised.

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maxpontiac
Friday, March 02, 2012 @ 10:26:29 AM

Underdog - Well it seems that you and I disagree on this subject.

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maxpontiac
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 @ 10:47:54 PM
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That pic has me hooked !

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 @ 10:52:41 PM
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"Enzio, quickly now, wave the lantern...
the redcoats are coming, the redcoats are coming!"

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Qubex
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 @ 11:36:10 PM
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Could be an interesting subject and environment to play through. I have never done an Assassins Creed before... this may get me involved for the first time... we'll see...

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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Underdog15
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 @ 11:48:51 PM
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Lame. I couldn't possibly be less interested in the American Revolution. lol

But on a serious side of things in regards to gameplay...

what the heck do we climb on? lol... It's not like there was sophisticated, interesting, and diverse architecture like there is in Italy or heck... any European country. Do I air assassinate off a... like... tree maybe?


Based on the fact Ubi is a French developer, and the fact that you could pick... like... ANY European country for a better open world to run around (Architecture was nice in America at that time, but few and far between)... I'm gonna go ahead and say this is fake.

And if not? Well... I will be extremely skeptical about this one.

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Neurotoxiny
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 12:28:39 AM

I agree dude! I think that a French Revolution AC would be awesome... what if we got to storm the Bastille! :D

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Fane1024
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 2:31:46 AM

@ Uunderdog

At least it's not Canadian history: total snooze-fest.

;D

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Underdog15
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 9:35:27 AM

I agree Fane. Except for the war of 1812 we won when we fought off the US invasion and burned down their white house.

That was kinda cool.

Not enough political oddities that could be used as a link to Templars, though. You need to have that kind of political controversy.

Our country's far too peaceful and free-valued for that.

Although... we did harbor slaves. Pre-Civil War, thousands of slaves managed to escape the US to the free-thinking Canada for a better life.

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Teddie9
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 3:15:11 PM

I'm with you Underdog I'm actually extremely turned off by this.

I wonder if the protag is white or maybe aboriginal - (I think that might salvage it for me).

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Fane1024
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 6:00:40 PM

Yeah, I'm not bagging on Canada. I live here for a reason. But *nothing* has happened here.

Oh, and the underdog (!) Americans repulsed the invading British forces after Washington. The War was a draw, as you well know.

@Teddie

There do seem to be hints of an aboriginal background for the protagonist.

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Underdog15
Friday, March 02, 2012 @ 10:16:06 AM

If it comes down to a tie-break, "burned down the white house" is the deal breaker! :p

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Beamboom
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 2:14:55 AM
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Oh no...
One of the things that made this franchise such a genuine experience was that it was *not* taking place in the U.S.!

I can understand that this might be cool news for those of you who are US citizens, and I totally respect that. No offence intended.
But as a non-american I'm just so sick and tired of 9/10 games (surely it must be even more?) featuring American heroes, usually on American ground. Add to this the fact that the same kind of domination exist also in TV series and movies, and the US culture overload is pretty darn choking.

There are *so* many other fantastic and exciting locations and historical events in the history of the world, and it just feels so incredibly refreshing to play a game where the heroes are *not* from the USA, and the scenes are not yet another more or less historically incorrect recreation of a location in the USA.

And quite frankly, I think it's only healthy for *all* gamers to be introduced to the world outside the US borders, no matter how fictional the story they get served is.


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Fane1024
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 2:34:49 AM

As an American (expatriate), I concur with everything except the first sentence.

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Killa Tequilla
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 2:53:15 AM

I wanna play GTA in Mexico :(

Maybe someday!

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Kall555
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 5:08:47 AM

As far as game characters go (regardless of where they're from) my faves would have to be Miranda from Mass Effect 2 & Chloe from Uncharted. No bias here at all ;)

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Beamboom
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 5:50:52 AM

@Kevin5: Well, as far as favourite characters go - who kinda is a totally different topic but good topic nonetheless - my favourite character in recent times is definitely Mordin Solus from Mass Effect 2.
On second place comes pretty much everyone else in the crew of Normandy. (I suffer from a serious case of Mass Effect pre-release fever these days :) )



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SirLoin of Beef
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 9:41:15 AM

Yeah, I wish someone would release a game that didn't take place in the USA. That will never happen though.

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Beamboom
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 10:09:39 AM

/irony scanner ON

... searching...

/irony scanner OFF

@Sirloin: Uhm... The Assassins Creed games up until now didn't take place in the USA.

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maxpontiac
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 11:02:02 AM

Ah Beamboom, that's because the USA has the coolest toys!

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Underdog15
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 1:07:50 PM

I agree with Max in that the USA thinks the USA has the coolest everything. ;p

@Max
Maybe... but notice... when you turn those toys upside down, they all say "Made in China".

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maxpontiac
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 2:33:53 PM

Underdog - By toys I was referring to the fact that most games that feature the US Military do so because American military might is a thing to behold!

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Underdog15
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 3:15:39 PM

Alexander the Great, Joan of Arc, Atilla the Hun, the Romans, the Greeks.... all had greater armies and much more might for their times.

While the US has the cash and population to support a military, your best armored vehicles are made in Canada through a company called General Dynamics. (Shipped out of my country all the time) The US only tried to fight Canada once. I live on Canadian soil that used to be American. :p That's all I know. And our septic lines course beneath the earth.

But at any rate, thanks for the case in point. All jokes aside, it's that exact attitude I was talking about. No one outside the US cares. And the "OUR POWER IS A SIGHT TO BEHOLD" crap is exactly why people outside the US resent the US. And it isn't fair, because it's not an accurate representation of the people there. Most Americans are kind, good-hearted people with family values who, for the most part, value diversity and equal rights. It is a country that is a haven for people who's countries are not safe. Definitely a wonderful place to live.

But when you hear people unfairly painting the US with the same brush about being pompous, arrogant, and egotistical, it's in cases like that. The idea that your country is "the best" or not being able to understand how other people could possibly love their own country more... that gives you guys a bad rap.

I know it's not true. You know it's not true. But when I hear things like that, I can't help but at least understand where these people are coming from.

Do I think canada is the best? Well, I dunno. Maybe, maybe not. It's definitely my favorite country, and I have -ZERO- desire to live anywhere else (although I'd love to travel). But there are things about our country that need to change just as every country has things that need to change. There are things in Canada I despise, in all honesty, but there are things about the US (especially politics) that I -REALLY- despise. Because no place is perfect. *shocker* And I'm incredibly proud of who I am and where I come from. Just as other non-Americans on this site feel the same way about their countries (Australia, Norway, England, Ireland, and more).

Anyways, military might doesn't impress me. Plenty of other countries have stronger militaries than you think. Even Hollands war 60 years ago in India would have been cool to depict in a game. Or Canada's fight at Vimmy Ridge or a game that highlighted the feats of the RCAF in WW2 or the liberation of Holland... just... there's more than the US, you know... and that diversity is a huge selling point for the AC series. Especially since we ALL have some sort of tie to that age.

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Fane1024
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 6:09:42 PM

BTW Beam edited his first sentence down to "Oh no", making my statement seem to object to the second sentence, which I do not.

I can't really object, since I edit my comments all the time (including right now).


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maxpontiac
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 8:57:39 PM

Well Underdog, if you don't believe the US Military is head and shoulders above everyone elses, you must not know why I would even state that. Attitude? I fail to see how I was even doing such when I am nothing more then a proud American who's family heritage is of service to the United States of America.

I could go into to details about certain hardware the US possesses and I am sure you go through great lengths to find a sensor on the F-22 Raptor that was manufactured in Europe.

Of course most the world doesn't care. That is until Dictator "A" invades, and gets ready to over run a certain continent, which of course cries would follow for the USA to do something about it. Did you notice North Korea yesterday? They asked for US food help. A short time ago, they promised war. It's a two street that to many people in the world fail to acknowledge. For example, the great housing boom in the mid 2000's featured foriegn investors who wanted to make a quick buck in America. Hypocrisy it is, seriously.

I think "most" people in the world are kind hearted individuals, but unfortunately this world as a whole does not show it. It is inherently evil and the worlds love of money and selfish undertakings have begun to show as the planet continues it's plunge into an uncurable economic condition.

On topic...I disagree. A game with such a high budget such as AC is a perfect platform to explore the American Revolution.

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Beamboom
Friday, March 02, 2012 @ 2:07:11 AM

That cleared things out, Fane. I didn't understand what you meant there. :)

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Underdog15
Friday, March 02, 2012 @ 9:27:18 AM

Again, max, as above, I didn't say you were wrong on a point you seem to think I object to. I never said I didn't think the US army is powerful. I don't even disagree that it is the most powerful.

But to think that it is the ONLY powerful army, is a fallacy. I really don't understand why you can't see how I might not be interested in American history/military. There is a lot of it in games. Many games I enjoy, by the way. It can hardly be held against me for wanting more variety, like the variety I mentioned above.

My point is that there are TONNES of great experiences that could be created out of the involvement of countries other than the US.

Not once did I say you were wrong about the things you seem to say I said you are wrong about....

Again... you really need to stop holding my disinterest in American history or military against me. It's not my country, and I do not have -any- ancestoral connections to it. To me, it's seriously just another country. It has things that interest me, sure. But I already get a healthy helping of USA in my media, so sue me for wanting more variety and wanting AC to stick to focusing on countries we rarely get to focus on!


Again... stop holding that against me. Be honest... could you even give two shits about Canadian history? Do you care about the civil war we had between north and south Ontario? Do you care about Luis Riel and the political BS that went on a few years before Confederation?

No. you don't. And I don't blame you either. Why should you care? You have no ties to Canada.

So until you start having an insane interest in Canadian affairs, you'll have to forgive me for not having an insane interest in American affairs.

How does that not make sense? How in the world does that make you angry?

THAT'S the attitude I'm talking about. The attitude that you just can't understand why I wouldn't care deeply about the USA. I love you guys. Heck, one of my groomsman lives in Boston and many of my friends are American. I have nothing against the USA. Not really. I just don't have a patriotic interest in it. That can HARDLY be held against me.

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SirLoin of Beef
Friday, March 02, 2012 @ 9:46:17 AM

"On topic...I disagree. A game with such a high budget such as AC is a perfect platform to explore the American Revolution."

Max, a high budget shouldn't be the number one concern here. The big question is how will this time period fit into the overall AC experience and story. Story-wise I think it can work. Experience-wise is where I think the issue lies.

Part of the fun I've had in the AC games (and I'm sure I'm not alone) is simply exploring all of the relatively historically accurate locations. Climbing the top of a huge tower overlooking Damascus, Rome, Vienna, etc. and looking over the huge sprawling city was downright incredible. Exploring the Roman ruins was pretty cool, too.

I just don't see how that same experience can be working into early America. Were DC, Boston or Philly huge, sprawling cities way back when? If not, how is the AC experience going to be played out?

If they can get it to work then I'll be all for it. The Revolution is one era of our history that isn't covered much in non-educational media. I'd love to see that time period done right in a game. I'm just not sure how an AC game would do that and still have the AC experience.

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maxpontiac
Friday, March 02, 2012 @ 10:52:07 AM

Underdog - For starters, I am not angry. I don't get angry over video game discussions, truth be told, no one ever should. It is easy to misunderstand and misinterpret what one is saying.

I am not holding anything against you. Not sure why you are so defensive. You must hold yourself to same standard you expect me to hold you to. Could it be that I am ready to play a game with AC's style that is relevant to me? Surely it can't be that hard to see!

You keep mentioning that you are sick of the US. To me that sounds like a personal issue.

As I mentioned earlier, I want to see the series visit the world over. I do not want another game set in Europe. I am happy that American history is going to featured. That shouldn't be hard for you figure out. And yes, if AC moved into Canada, I would have interest in it.

From a simple business perspective, moving AC to America makes sense. It is a huge market afterall. The series got a reboot, American style. You don't like. Fine. Don't buy it.

Beef - Those are valid concerns. But since little to nothing is known about this game, shouldn't EVERYONE have a wait and see approach with it if you don't find the historical backdrop interesting?

Personally, I see Mel Gibson's "The Patriot" coming into factor. Sure, the "climb tall building A" and "scale complex B" might be missing, but anyone who has played the previous AC games has done that already. Many, many times.

You have the right mindset though. If it is done correctly, AC3 could be amazing for all, and not just those from the USA!


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Underdog15
Friday, March 02, 2012 @ 11:18:20 AM

But I don't even want AC to go to Canada. lol

The more I think about Russia in late 1800's the more I like it, but yeah...

When you say I keep saying I'm sick of the US, that makes it sound much worse that I feel.

I'm not sick of the US. But I do want more variety. Beamboom made an excellent comment in the forums about how modern media is dominated with stories in the US. It's not a bad thing, but for non-Americans, well... it's nice to hear stories from other places too. For me, it was a huge selling point for AC. Going to places like Constantinople, Italy, Jerusalem... that's really cool! We never get to see those places!

I'm not "sick of the US". Most of my media involvement will continue to be dominated with US stories, and I'm cool with that. But I really want AC to stick to it's major selling points in places we've never been to or hear about.

Lastly, I think it's good for Americans as well to get that diversity. Traveling to real life places you never get to go to... is a really awesome ordeal. (And it's a great point about why video games are so awesome!)

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maxpontiac
Friday, March 02, 2012 @ 11:29:37 AM

Underdog - Europe and the Middle East have been explored, and I see North and South America being the location for a few games. Oh, I don't know, I am sure something in Canada could be interesting.

Agreed, video games are great for experiencing things you might not get to do in real life.

We are just going to have to wait and see what AC3 is all about. For some like me, it represents a thrilling change. For others, it does nothing but spark concerns over. I believe the old saying of "you can't please everyone" is applicable here!

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___________
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 5:02:44 AM
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WTF!?
im lost.
isent this suppose to take place in current times?
the whole point of AC1,2,B,R was to train up desmond and learn the locations of these pyramids so we can save the world.
weve done both now, so why the %$#@ are we going back into the animus?
unless this is not AC3, and another crappy spinoff which im going to be SERIOUSLY pissed if it is!

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La_Bete12
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 7:18:26 AM
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I geeked out when I saw this picture on IGN for the first time, something tells me this is gonna be a vast improvement from Revelations. However...there's gonna be some controversy about this though, especially since it looks like the new guy might me a Native American. There was already a crapload of racist comments on IGN, and who knows that else is gonna come.

Anyways, I'm still totally excited, October 30th can't come soon enough :)

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Underdog15
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 9:53:05 AM

Are there really still that many racists out there?

You know... the only place I ever see racists is on the internet. Never in person... That tells me they exist... but only come out on the internet... which means it's definitely proof they are just cowards.

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SirLoin of Beef
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 10:05:01 AM

Sadly underdog, there are. There will always be people who think they're better than someone else simply because their skin color or ethnic background is different than someone else's.

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Underdog15
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 1:09:41 PM

But what's even more amusing is the -reasoning- behind that. I have a different skin color... therefore... yeah... it's a different skin color and that's it.

It's just so stupid that people don't even see the stupidity in their reasoning. I'll never understand it...

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Underdog15
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 9:54:22 AM
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I just noticed in the picture there are some faded letters across his chest. What does it stand for or say? Can anyone make it out?

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TheCanadianGuy
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 10:30:06 AM

its Kotaku

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wackazoa
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 10:16:45 AM
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meh. I like the European history angle because most of it was 600 - 1000 years ago and on a different continent. So you could play a little with the history and be fine. I dont know about the revolutionary war angle. Too close to home and we know most of the history. I'd hate to be playing the game saying " Thats not right, nope couldnt have happend, totally wrong, GOD I HATE THIS GAME ! "

Just simply because much of the history is already front and center for most americans.

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SirLoin of Beef
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 10:39:17 AM

If there's any era of American history I'd like to see more games about, it's this time period. We have way too many shooters from the various "modern" wars we've fought in. That being said, I'm not sure just how an AC game would work in this time period here in the US. Were the cities back then big enough to give the AC experience like running around in Damascus, Rome, etc.?

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wackazoa
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 11:11:29 AM

The time period is great. But my point is the "romantic" period of man was over by then. Sure we Americans look back at it with romanticized viewpoints but really the time period between the end of the dark ages and the start of the 1700's was where all the best stories come from.

Now Im intrigued sure... but I just dont think it can be done well enough to really send the series back to what it was with the first 2 games.

But also what you said about the towns, also proves the point. Europe had been built for a thousand years by that time. America only had European style settlements for about 50 years. I just dont see the way Ubisoft can do it like the first 2 games.

But if they where to take Desmond and send him here in todays time.... that might make a pretty fantastic game.

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Underdog15
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 1:18:10 PM

@wacazoa

This is exactly what I'm trying to get at, too. The American Revolution is a cool time period with it's own nifty quirks, but for all the reasons you listed, I fail to see how it could have the same possible depth. Part of the attractiveness of the dark ages to 1700's is just how much is actually recorded in history. There's loads of wiggle room for conspiracy, etc. In American History, you can get lots of neat little ideas, like they had in the Subject 17 puzzles, but not a full blown story that wouldn't raise conflicts in recorded history.

Also, your point on architecture is what I think too. You're right... 50 years of settlement cannot compete with the thousands (sometimes more) of years that built these cities.

Look at Rome in brotherhood! The Colosseum was run down in the 1500's already! The Romans already did so much to Italy and it's architecture 1.5-2 thousand years prior. Greece would have some cool architecture as ANY point in history as well. France would be awesome any time around Ezio's time and forward, and countless other European times too. Heck, in AC2, Ezio visited a number of different cities... why not have the new assassin visit numerous cities in NUMEROUS countries? That would be fantastic!

EDIT: An additional note about European history in past AC's, is that most people have a distant link to these European historical pieces. Obviously, the European market is close to it, (lol), but most North Americans have ties to European history as well. It's just such a common thing for people that it easily accomplishes the diversity it sets out for.

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Fane1024
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 6:20:39 PM

The game *could* also feature the French Revolution, which would also fall within a character's lifetime. An American Assassin could easily have a reason to be in France.

Or London during the War Of Independence, for that matter.

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Underdog15
Friday, March 02, 2012 @ 9:29:16 AM

Spain would be a sick place to be to see what Ferdinand and Isabella were up to, as well.

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wackazoa
Friday, March 02, 2012 @ 9:58:20 AM

You guys are absolutely right.

Underdog your point about the history recorded is spot on. Most of what we know is not from history books written but from ballads and tales of what happened. King Arthur is not a history piece but a story book written to entertain. Sure now through investigation we have found the possible reign of King Arthur but we still dont know much about it.

And that is what makes these "stories" in games so appealing. We dont know if they are true but they COULD be. We can totallly see Altair running around Jerusalem and ancient Syria. We could see Enzio running around Italy and Turkey in the Age of Enlightenment. I could see someone running around Spain during the Inquisition (cause NOBODY EXPECTS THE INQUISITION !).

But an Indian assassin hanging with George Washington ? Helping Ben Franklin with his paper ? Catching Thomas Jefferson's runaway slaves ? Trying to kill Benedict Arnold ? We dont really have any history gaps for them to exploit to tell a story in my opinion.

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Underdog15
Friday, March 02, 2012 @ 10:21:14 AM

I'd love to see everyone's reaction if the Templars turn out to be the American fore-fathers.

Lots of complaining then, I bet.

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SirLoin of Beef
Friday, March 02, 2012 @ 11:29:53 AM

underdog, I can only speak for myself when I say I won't complain if the forefathers turn out to be Templars in the game. To be honest, I would be surprised if they weren't.

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Fane1024
Sunday, March 04, 2012 @ 5:08:04 AM

The Templars were the good guys in real life, anyway.

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unnavigated
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 12:57:38 PM
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That box art is amazing...looks very promising!

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Wendell
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 2:00:08 PM
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I hope the story of the ancestor protagonist starts as a teenage combatant in the "French and Indian" wars. The bow, axe, buckhorn and such would seem to imply interaction with the first nations.

I do wonder how they are managing to make the parkour elements compelling in this environment, though.

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SirLoin of Beef
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 2:01:37 PM
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If you head over to Amazon, you can see they're already allowing people to preorder AC3 and it looks the rumor is true. The cover art they're displaying is an assassin taking down a redcoat with an American flag waving in the background.

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Jawknee
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 3:09:41 PM
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My only interest in this lies in whether or not they will get the history right. Maybe I'll pick it up for the Wii U.

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Teddie9
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 3:18:53 PM

But for entertainment sake, do they want to get the history right?

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Jawknee
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 3:41:22 PM

I would certainly think so. When dealing with history it should be accurate in my opinion. One of the reasons I disliked the other games so much was because of their nonsensical take on religion.

Take 300 for example. The history was accurate while still adding an element of fantasy to it for entertainment value.

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maxpontiac
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 9:52:24 PM

Uh oh Jawknee.. that wouldn't be flamebait now would it? ;)

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Jawknee
Friday, March 02, 2012 @ 11:24:52 AM

I would certainly hope not. Lol, I love Nintendo and Sony. Hope most people can understand that it's okay to like more than one company here. :)

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goldentinny
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 3:19:28 PM
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I don't believe this. First off - IT'S NOT EVEN LOGISTICALLY POSSIBLE.

It is a popular fanboy fantasy online for ACIII to be set in the American Revolution, but that setting does not fit with the style of the series. For AC to work it needs large cities with many high buildings, and cities like that did not exist in any way, shape, or form during the American Revolution. New York was still a tiny section of downtown Manhattan and Boston wasn't much either. America was still extremely rural at that time, it is the worst possible place you could set a sandbox style game.

Not to mention that Ubisoft has repeated time and again that they are not interested in the typical video game settings. Which means no China or Japan either.

I hope they keep to their word because half of what makes AC fun is its different environments.

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La_Bete12
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 4:09:19 PM

It may involve more with the environment itself than the architecture. You could possibly climb trees and do assassinations from there, or possibly more to do with all the presence of snow.

Idk, just throwing some ideas out there :)

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BikerSaint
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 3:44:09 PM
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OK, this game could get really interesting, because Washington was actually big on using spy networks against the British during that time.

You might want to check out the history of the "Culper spy ring"........

http://www.history.com/topics/culper-spy-ring


This period was also the time of American traitor Benedict Arnold, who tried to sell West Point to the British, but was discovered by the same Culper spy ring.

There's also the history of agent 355, code-name for a "lady" who aided the Culper ring, & historians say, she was the only woman ever hung as a spy by the British,

Then there was the 1778 "Battle of Monmouth" fought by Washington & his Continental Army troops, against British LT General Cornwallis in my own home state of New Jersey

Check it out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Monmouth

Anyway, just a few tidbits to help set the mood for an American AC3

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JRA696
Thursday, March 01, 2012 @ 8:11:58 PM
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Ubisoft released a statement: It's legit. And that picture is the cover for the March issue of Game Informer.

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Lairfan
Friday, March 02, 2012 @ 9:01:35 PM
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You know, instead of b*tching about this being in America, maybe we could stop for a second and realize that no other game has been in a colonial American setting yet (or for that matter, a Revolutionary War setting). Yeah, I've had enough of modern American settings in video games too (especially New York, its overused), but I find the prospect of colonial America interesting and something that's never been done by anyone before in a video game.

Oh, and to be honest, I'm tired of running around European settings. Give me colonial America, give me Asia, give me Australia, Africa, South America, just don't give me Europe again.

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Lairfan
Friday, March 02, 2012 @ 9:15:06 PM

And for goodness sake, we should stop complaining about how American architecture wasn't as good as European architecture at that time, and about how there's little wiggle room for conspiracies.

First off, there's plenty of wiggle room for conspiracies. Just because some people may think the ideas for such Revolutionary War conspiracies could only work as cool little things in the Truth puzzles doesn't necessarily mean they won't work. I can see them very easily writing in stuff that fits into history seamlessly. So I don't know why people are complaining about that.

And to be honest about the other thing (architecture), I really don't care that America didn't have huge buildings at the time. Maybe instead of confining it to one city like they have for the past two games, they'll open it to more than one again because of the more rural nature of America at the time. Plus, this environment could be really immersive given that no one's ever had a chance to play through anything like it before (and because of AC's painstaking detail in its environments). But no, instead of looking at that aspect, let's all b*tch about how there's no Vatican or Giotto Campanile or some other Palazzo in this game.

Well, you can all b*tch about it as much as you want. Meanwhile, I'll be anticipating another awesome game.

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BikerSaint
Saturday, March 03, 2012 @ 9:57:40 AM

Absolutely right, & the closest I can remember that any games got, was the History Channel's 2 game Civil War series.

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