Mass Effect 3 Online Petition: Give Us A New Ending!

TheAgingHipster
Sunday, March 11, 2012 @ 9:46:49 PM
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*facepalm*

I haven't beaten it yet, but I imagine one of two scenarios--save the galaxy, or fail miserably. Pretty much the only ways it CAN play out. What the heck did these whiners expect?

Seriously, can we not just enjoy the freaking game?

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SmokeyPSD
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 1:03:50 AM

Haven't started it yet but this was supposed to have finality to it, in that all your choices from all 3 games were taken into account in the ending and a huge amount of variables would be on offer for you to shape your personal end. This was supposed to give them freedom to go all out in terms of shaping many different endings and variations as there was no need to think of a sequel for Shepard.

That's what Bioware talked about ages ago and was the concept. Understandable if this is what nothing like has happened then with fans (and me when I reach the end) upset. Mass Effect 3 deserved more of a personal journey for us all to just have that lame choice you put up there.

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TheAgingHipster
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 8:11:39 AM

It IS a personal journey. It gives you closure for everything you've done throughout the series. Every major decision you ever made (and several minor) plays out for you in Mass Effect 3. The entire game is the ending of the series, not the final 10 minutes of the final game. That's what I've loved about Mass Effect 3. Every character I've loved or hated has had his/her/its time in the spotlight. I've even been moved to tears on a couple of occasions. To hear people complain about the game because they disagree with the last 5-10 minutes not being more varied just irritates the crap out of me.

Seriously, can you imagine a third or fourth ending scenario beyond save the galaxy, or fail to save the galaxy?

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SirLoin of Beef
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 9:05:19 AM

I enjoyed most of the game but hated the endings. I don't even mind how dark they were (I expected them to be) but, in the end, the choices you made through the three games pretty much didn't amount to a hill of beans. It was a complete let-down. No, I've not written nastygrams to BW or plan on signing on any petition but I'm still irked about how the trilogy ended.

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Justwanttoreply
Sunday, March 11, 2012 @ 10:09:03 PM
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Up until the last 5 minutes of the game, I was just as optimistic as you. Yeah, I wish there were only 2 choices, and that was it. That would have made WAY more sense. Just wait dude. Just wait. You'll see what all the "whiners" didn't expect.

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TheAgingHipster
Sunday, March 11, 2012 @ 10:33:34 PM

If they give me more options than that, I'll be thrilled!

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ZettaiSeigi
Sunday, March 11, 2012 @ 10:10:24 PM
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If my decisions in the course of three (or 2 games actually) would hardly matter in the outcome of the game, then I could see why fans would be crying foul over it. However, I cannot say anything about the controversy yet since I just started playing the game two days ago and I'm really enjoying it.

Man, all this talk about the "supposedly terrible" ending is already putting ideas in my head that I'd rather not entertain this early in my playthrough.

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Lotusflow3r
Sunday, March 11, 2012 @ 10:44:17 PM
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This reminds me of The Sopranos ending backlash, but on a much smaller scale. I remember reading how it was awful and one of the worst endings in history.

It actually put me off investing time into the series. When i eventually thought, whatever, i'm going to watch it as i'm sure what's in between is amazing as is said.

Watched it, thought the series was a benchmark for American TV shows and then the ending came.....One of the most intelligent, cliché free, astounding, thought provoking endings in TV show history.
When i looked online after being speechless for about 3 hours, i was happy to find out there were others that thought so too and were dissecting it's meaning.

Point is, i will never listen to this type of stuff because you never know what you may miss if you follow. You have to remember that mainstream audiences want traditional methods, not a thinking game.

I have no idea how ME3 ends nor am i saying it's going to be as profound as something like The Sopranos ending, but it's food for thought.

Then again, one's a TV show, the other a game.

Last edited by Lotusflow3r on 3/11/2012 10:46:25 PM

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SmokeyPSD
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 1:16:56 AM

Agreed, found this too with L.A. Noire. It has a beautifully constructed ending in terms of noir narrative. Sorry if I offend some people but most people who complained about the ending probably didn't know a thing about noir and just was expecting it to pan out like any other game which it wasn't right from the beginning.

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Beamboom
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 2:19:21 AM

Thanks, Lotus! I kinda needed to read that. :) Gave me motivation and strength to continue avoiding reading into what this is all about.

In about 60-70 gaming hours into the future I'll be able to find out by myself. :)

Last edited by Beamboom on 3/12/2012 2:21:39 AM

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Underdog15
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 9:04:54 AM

@Smokey
It wasn't even necessarily "Noir" that they needed to expect either. (Although, I'm not disagreeing with you even a little bit!) People are almost expectant of the traditional melodramatic ending. Anything else is "bad".

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SmokeyPSD
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 1:49:25 PM

Yeah, I would agree with that too Underdog. I'm looking at it from a fan of the genre conventions but your completely right from that perspective too.

It's "out of the comfort zone" so I immediately don't like it. :(

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bigrailer19
Sunday, March 11, 2012 @ 10:47:33 PM
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I actually am the type of person who wants one ending. I don't mind multiple endings if they don't differ to much, because I like conclusions in the way I choose to play when I have choices. Normally I won't play through a game again to see a different ending. I do like choice in games, but I also like when a developer can deliver on the premise of the story they are trying to tell.

At this point I would rather Bioware not listen to those who want a different ending, because this is the way they wanted to tell the story! If Bioware changes that well then the whole game falls victim to what everyone is saying they hate anyways, and that's DLC, and further more, changing part of the original game. Just leave it good or bad!

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Fox hounder
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 12:09:53 AM

"this is the way they wanted to tell the story!"

Exactly!

These fans that are upset about the ending should go and right a fan fiction on the way they wanted it to end, lol.

Its pretty funny, i mean i can see why fans would be upset over gameplay changes (like with FF, or RE), but to be upset over the ending? seriously?

Story is one area where i don't want to see fan input. (There maybe exceptions to that though)

Last edited by Fox hounder on 3/12/2012 12:13:09 AM

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bigrailer19
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 2:20:00 AM

It's not our place to say "this is how the ending should be", or "change the ending because we didn't like it".

They told the story, not us. This is probably how they envisioned it ending for quite a long time. I'm actually more upset that there is multiple endings in such a story driven franchise. But I've heard it's more based on choice, and doesnt actually vary that much, and so I'm ok it. ;)

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Fox hounder
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 2:44:24 AM

I agree.

I try to view it from the perspective of the director, i wouldn't want to change my vision for the ending because a group of fans (as you mentioned) had their own idea of how it should end.

Folks, think of some of the great video game endings, (i think ben had a list sometime back, probably still on the site) i'm pretty sure those endings weren't shaped by fan opinions.

Just something to think about :)

Last edited by Fox hounder on 3/12/2012 2:47:48 AM

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Fox hounder
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 3:24:11 AM

Or to simplify it,

I just want the ending (and story in general) to be what the director wants it to be,

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SirLoin of Beef
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 9:10:01 AM

As I've mentioned, I didn't like any of the endings. However, I don't want them to patch in new endings, either. You're right. It is their story to tell and, for whatever reason, they decided to end it the way they did. Doesn't mean I have to like it.

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childs145
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 10:38:04 AM

Umm this game was built on and around the premise the players control what happens and the programmers failed at that. so ya they should listen to the fans, if this was a book or tv show sure we would not complain we would just stop reading or watching and never buy from those authors or producers again. But BW has a chance to keep our business and deliver what was the bases for many of us picking up the game in the 1st place

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bigrailer19
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 11:08:35 AM

Childs-

I'm sorry but these games were never built that way. They are not Heavy Rain where everything you do completely affects how something will turn out. Don't think that Bioware has accomplished that with any of these games. Regardless the player has control of his or her choice but never had control of the ending. You dont know what's going to happen no matter what choices you make, and those choices were never really had a huge impact. The developers had a story to tell and whatever you did do, it would still be played out the way they had planned, just maybe in a different circumstance.

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Killa Tequilla
Sunday, March 11, 2012 @ 11:37:11 PM
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Jesus Christ, may the lord have mercy on their souls.

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Underdog15
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 9:05:38 AM

urs too?

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THEVERDIN
Sunday, March 11, 2012 @ 11:48:49 PM
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They should remember that they'll more than likely have to pony up $$ for their endings.

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WingusofDingus
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 1:05:00 AM

Bioware shaped ME2 based on what fans wanted.

They shaped ME3 gameplay on fan feedback.

When fans complained how a book conflicted with the game background fluff, Bioware issued an apology stating the book was not canon.

They listen.

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maxpontiac
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 12:16:47 AM
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People are sad. Really sad.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 12:49:37 AM
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A bad ending is bad PR. It's best if we can just say hey the game provided me with lots of great moments but I sympathize with them for wanting perfection. Bioware should take their licks and do better next time, but it's just plain silly for them to provide a different ending because people got mad.

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Maruf
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 12:51:43 AM
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So what am I to make of this? Is it a game for exclusively non-gamers? Or am I to conclude that most gamers are dim witted idiots that are incapable of understanding what Mass Effect is about.

I say so because in my opinion Mass Effect 3's ending makes it one of the greatest stories ever told and the greatest science fiction story ever. It exceeded my expectations and is a monumental achievement in the world of entertainment.

It is for such thoughts that I don't understand why such high percentage will want the game to be changed. The game shattered my expectations and achieved something I could never have imagined in my wildest dreams.

Then why are so many people so disappointed with it? Anything other ending would probably cause the same people to shout that it is very unimaginative ending and make a petition to change that.

Bioware are known to listen to fans but regarding this petition I hope that Bioware will make an exception. I'd like to know what number makes up that 87%

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SirLoin of Beef
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 9:13:38 AM

My dislike of the endings isn't really with the actual endings themselves (I've run through the ones I had access to to see how different they were) but with all of the questions that remain, questions that, in my opinion, shouldn't have been asked by the way they ended the game.

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childs145
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 10:44:51 AM

Then you are not paying attention to whats going on with the story or what is on the screen, maybe you have a short term memory and things escape you. look at the ending again if you don't have questions why certain things happened then it simple you like pretty pictures not for things to make sense at the end. the ending was pieced in like some mix matched puzzle it i'm trying to to spoil anything by giving example but email me i will point them out for you. Think about ME2 the simple fact you bought ship upgrades that determined who would survive in the end was amazing now look a ME3 they had one story about an upgrade that would save someone incase... but did getting that ship upgrade matter at the end of ME3?

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dillonthebunny
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 12:58:17 AM
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I'm all for multiple endings, but as a whole if there was even just one ending, people should just accept that this is the ending to the game how the Devs saw it fit. i just feel that we shouldn't feel its our right to change this.

would you change the ending of any long series of films? hey.. Darth vader shouldn't die.. noooooo. how about ico or sotc? should we change that because we don't agree with the way those master pieces played out?

i haven't finished me3 yet, but what ever ending i get, il just be happy with, i figure il either be disappointed because it was sloppy, rushed and left untidy or i will appreciate it because the game its truly magnificent and the devs wanted these endings...what ever they are.

if people want a blank sheet ending then maybe they should write Games rather than make petitions.

on a last note, the reviews that actually finished the game, i don't recall them knocking off points for a sloppy ending, so i say accept it and move on.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 1:09:35 AM

Adding Hayden Christenson to the ending of the original Star Wars was sad.

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Underdog15
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 9:07:15 AM

Yeah, I feel bad for that dude that got cut out.

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childs145
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 10:50:58 AM

again the game was built and developed as a player controls the ending and all decisions made in 1, 2 and 2 would effect 3 but they didn't so people have the right to be angry and demand the change. If you spent ours playing the game to get the perfect response to each mission in dialogue in the game you would be upset too. i think you played the game made a choice in the dialogue and stuck with it but the rest of us said nope i don't like the response reset and do the dialogue again.

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dillonthebunny
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 12:58:21 AM
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I'm all for multiple endings, but as a whole if there was even just one ending, people should just accept that this is the ending to the game how the Devs saw it fit. i just feel that we shouldn't feel its our right to change this.

would you change the ending of any long series of films? hey.. Darth vader shouldn't die.. noooooo. how about ico or sotc? should we change that because we don't agree with the way those master pieces played out?

i haven't finished me3 yet, but what ever ending i get, il just be happy with, i figure il either be disappointed because it was sloppy, rushed and left untidy or i will appreciate it because the game its truly magnificent and the devs wanted these endings...what ever they are.

if people want a blank sheet ending then maybe they should write Games rather than make petitions.

on a last note, the reviews that actually finished the game, i don't recall them knocking off points for a sloppy ending, so i say accept it and move on.

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WingusofDingus
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 1:07:36 AM

It's different because with the Star Wars endings they at least have closure. You know what happens to all the major characters. Mass Effect didn't.

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WingusofDingus
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 1:03:28 AM
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I was like you guys at one point.

I thought, 'Hey, they have multiple endings, one of them oughta be good.' Then I got to the end. Now I see where they come from.

It doesn't even feel like Mass Effect. It feels like Bioware just called up the Wachowski brothers and told them to make an ending, because each and every ending is basically the same thing with a different colored background. And none of them make sense.

Endings are about closing a story. And to close a trilogy like Mass Effect, you should have an ending that closes it properly. Instead of closing it, they left so many holes it feels more like a B movie than a AAA title.

Fans feel betrayed because Mass Effect had always been about everyone uniting under one banner, putting aside old hatreds to face a conflict together. In the all endings, no matter what you did in the previous games, nor how you played in this game

SPOILER! SPOILER!DO NOT READ FURTHER IF YOU DON'T WANT SPOILER!

Shepard dies. Alone.

Either you control the Reapers, and the Normandy crew crash land somewhere. Or you destroy all Synthetics, including Geth and EDI, and Normandy crash lands somewhere.

And at no point do they explain what happens to anyone. What about the other crew members. What about the other races that were part of the war? How will everyone get back home when all the Mass Relays are destroyed? If the catalyst built the Reapers, who built the catalyst? The endings answer none of this!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 1:10:35 AM

crap, I had to scroll up from the bottom and now there's no point in buying the game.

Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 3/12/2012 1:11:33 AM

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SmokeyPSD
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 1:30:59 AM

I managed to not read MUCH of it but this comment should not be here. What is the point of giving us specifics.

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dillonthebunny
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 2:09:09 AM

wings.. you're an idiot for spoiling it for everyone. that said, i read what you spoilt and i STILL don't have a problem with it.

maybe people like you want things in a particular way and can't handle 'change'? anyway, i feel that there probably will be a follow up in the from of dlc to perhaps to explain a few things because they planned to, and not cater for whiney gamers.

I'm hoping Ben or a mod here will delete that portion of your last post, again, you are an idiot and i refuse to read anything more that you have to say.

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Gabriel013
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 7:38:37 AM

To be honest, I don't mind the text in there, it won't stop me enjoying the game. I agree that they should have maybe given more detail about what happens in the years after the game ends.

For example, What happens with the Rachni depending on the action you took in ME1? Is it explained? It should be.

As for the pther elements of the ending, I'm fairly happy with them. Looks like they just needed to expand on the detail.

Last edited by Gabriel013 on 3/12/2012 7:39:10 AM

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Underdog15
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 9:09:30 AM

*Sigh*

Most people can read silently quite efficiently... spoiler alerts only work if you can somehow hide the text, either with some pop-down thing or white text...

I saw the spoiler and tried to skip it, but my eyes still caught what you wrote inadvertently.

Freakin' moron.....

Just like the time my cousin spoiled what happened to Aeris....

Well... ok, so it isn't as bad as that.

Last edited by Underdog15 on 3/12/2012 9:10:24 AM

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Ludicrous_Liam
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 10:45:38 AM

Calm down guys. He did put a spoiler alert there, so it's more your fault than his if you read it. He can't really conceal it any better...

That said, I read it too xD Only because I seem to be the only person who doesn't even like ME3. The demo was AWFUL. I thought the ME2 was ALOT better. I mean, the framerate was just appaulingly bad, the cutscenes were so drawn-out and the writing was so...average. Not to mention the gunplay was flat out boring. Maybe I really aren't an RPG person - be it 'PRG lite' or hardcore RPG's. Oh well. There's always uncharted! xD

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Underdog15
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 1:51:45 PM

@ludicrous
You don't put spoilers in even with alerts unless it can be hidden. When I read, I'm constantly slowly scrolling. I don't read silently the way I read out loud. Most people don't, I wouldn't think. It's not like you can see SPOILER and instantly stop... The words were directly beneath the warning, and my eyes caught it... Who read's word-by-word, anyways?

I dunno about you, but my brain doesn't work that way. There was literally nothing I could have done to have not seen that aside from not looking at the comments.

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CanadianGuy420
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 2:08:13 PM

what really pisses me off about it is that he's not even a regular here. its like he just made an account here to do that lame man totally lame.

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Ludicrous_Liam
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 5:05:01 PM

Well I read each comment very carefully, sometimes if you don't you just skim over things when you shouldn't really (I've done it before; in doing so I just repeat exactly what someone else had said before-hand. Whoops xD). But honestly, there was like 4 or 5 lines between the spoiler alert and the spoiler itself.

Kinda predictable too. I mean how many times does that happen in games that spans 3+ games (that are story-heavy)? Like

(Spoiler alert for you normal people who read top-to-bottom)
SPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILERSPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILERSPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILERSPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILERSPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILERSPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILERSPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILERSPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILERSPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILERSPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILERSPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILER

...in MGS4. For like half an hour anyway.

SPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILERSPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILERSPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILERSPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILERSPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILERSPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILERSPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILERSPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILERSPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILERSPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILERSPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILER
(Spoiler alert for you strange people who read bottom-to-top)

YEAH - thats how you do a spoiler alert. xD

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Ludicrous_Liam
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 5:24:43 PM

Awww. I was gunna add an improvement to my spoiler alert but the stupid scroller screwed up when I tried to edit it (Ben you should really switch the defaults, so scroller is an option). It would've looked like this:

SPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILER-SPOILER

S S
P P
O O
I I
L L
E E
R R

SPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILER--SPOILER

I would've done like a criss-cross too...but I don't have THAT much time to waste xD

EDIT: RAWR. The spaces between the two spoilers get deleted. Just use your goddam imagination. I'm going't bed. :L

Last edited by Ludicrous_Liam on 3/12/2012 5:28:23 PM

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CanadianGuy420
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 11:34:51 PM

damn L calm down take a breather your gonna blow a bloodvessel there mate xD

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Underdog15
Wednesday, March 14, 2012 @ 9:37:44 AM

... I think I'm probably just better at my reading comprehension skills, then Liam.

I'm not talking about skimming things over...

It's how I read notes, books, textbooks, study.... I get all the info and I see the complete sentence. I only slow down when I hit a complex or poorly constructed sentence.

There's a huge difference between skimming and reading. In a narrow thread like this when you don't need to stretch your eyes across the entire screen and just in a narrow box like this... I'm probably reading 3 lines at the same time.

I'm definitely not skimming over something as narrowly constructed as this thread on this site. I'm obviously not the only one that reads like that either, based on the other folks that had it spoiled. (It was more than commented here. People have mentioned it in later threads, too)

I think -most- decent readers probably would read the same way... assuming they went to their classes and read what they were supposed to read and read for enjoyment on the side.

It's not a special skill... it's normal.

EDIT: That's not how you do a spoiler alert. People need to know there's a spoiler either before they navigate to a page, or they need to do something specific, like highlight white text or click a box that will drop down the hidden text.

I thought everyone knew that......

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CanadianGuy420
Wednesday, March 14, 2012 @ 3:27:35 PM

yea dog thats pretty much how i am to.
generally speaking though i've made it a habit to just stay away from comment thread involving story driven games i plan to play. for instance when heavy rain came out i just totally stayed away from websites until i finished it (but i did it in like 2 days xD)
what gets me is how he just put.

********* dies alone

separately like that it just arrr so obvious if he put in in the middle of a sentence people probably would have stoped. but having it separated like just no way you could avoid it. totally lame

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Xzer0
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 1:43:35 AM
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I liked the ending. It was complete. I believe that all those fans wanted an happy enidng not some philosophical ending, whe you need to choose. Bioware might add an 4th ending.

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childs145
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 10:56:03 AM

no the fans wanted the decisions they made from 1, 2 and 3 to matter in the end. its not a movie or book its a player controlled rpg and the ending should reflect, but it does not.

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Gamer46
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 2:17:03 AM
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For the most part I agree with the complainers but now they're just going too far and are going to end up looking really stupid. They want Bioware to 'fix' the ending, well guess how that will happen? Yup, $10 DLC. So some of the stuff they're rallying against they're willing to throw out the window for a new ending? I'm sure EA and Bioware will be crying all the way to the bank. This is ridiculous. The ending sucks, be ticked off about it but accept it and move on. The easiest way to let EA and especially Bioware know that it screwed the fans over is to just not buy what they put out next, that simple. I'm disgusted with how Bioware closed this series and how they keep defending the idiotic decisions (like forced multiplayer, disc locked content and a putrid ending to set up more unneeded DLC after promising closure to the story) but it is what it is. I won't be supporting anymore of their nonsense and I hope others do the same. And yes, Ben, in this case the fans have to be pleased. There's many times I think listening to 'fans' is a terrible idea but this is one of the cases where every single complaint is legit. Bioware sold out to EA and is following all its deplorable business practices. In addition they crapped all over the fans who helped make the company a success by deciding to try to appeal to the online FPS gamers at the expense of those who were lining their pockets years before. This isn't the once great company that used to care about its fans and people need to let them know that they have to change their ways.

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childs145
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 11:00:05 AM

The thing is we know BW can do what they say and keep promises even if we have to pay for a DLC we want them to keep our business. ya we could just simply so f them and let the company fail in future games but we have faith in them maybe they will tell EA to F off and be the company we knew from the 1st dragon age.

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Beamboom
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 2:18:25 AM
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Can the ending really be THAT bad? No I don't really wanna know, just thinking out loud here.
If there is reason for this, then sure, speak up. But if not... Then this is an embarrassment and an ugly display of demanding fans.

As for me I don't want to read the petition or the BioWare forums, I haven't even fully read this article just skimmed it, nor have I visited the BioWare or ME3 pages on Facebook. I stay faithful to my promise of not reading *anything* on the web about ME3 that may in any way alter my enjoyment with this game.

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childs145
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 11:04:34 AM

The game was awesome up until the point you go after Cerberus headquaters do yourself a favor if you love the game stop there and leave yourself an open ending, because the endings are that bad it is not a joke. the 80% are right everything you did will not matter in the endings and it shows plus a whole bunch of added plot holes, How can and ending add plot holes that's how you know it is bad. I was hooked and in love until the end now i'm heart broken literally. i haven't had a GF cheat on me before but i imagine this is how it feels.

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___________
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 2:31:50 AM
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sigh.
another awesome game spoiled by a stupid endings!
developers really need to start adopting the epic way and starting games from the end up.
wonder why epic always have kick a$$ endings to their games?
this has got to be up there with GTAIV, DMC4, and RE5 for the biggest disappointment of the generation!
and i havent even finished it yet!
i wanna stop playing ME3, trade it in and go grab ME2 again thats how disappointed i am in it!
sigh.
for once, just once, can we have a game as good as its predecessor?
pleeeeeeeeeeeease?

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Gamer46
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 2:40:33 AM
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Thanks to the wonders of DLC we will never again see good game endings. At least not for games like Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, Geas of War, etc which are popular, published by greedy corporations and have fan bases that will buy up anything that gets thrown at them. The only exception I can think of a concerning one of this gen's big franchises that has solid endings for all its games is Uncharted and that's because Sony is smart, backs off and just lets their teams do what they do best.

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Zen_Zarab
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 3:29:06 AM

Yet people still say Uncharted 3 was rushed... <.<

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Zen_Zarab
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 3:27:49 AM
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$5 says there will be a "Broken Steel" style DLC for ME3. :P

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WingusofDingus
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 3:42:18 AM
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Well it seems the petition is working. Apparently Bioware is starting to take notice. But if they are to do anything is up in the air.

Last edited by WingusofDingus on 3/12/2012 3:43:23 AM

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maia160
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 3:43:48 AM
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I've finished the game and I'm disappointed with the ending. I haven't signed any petitions and I'm not really sure exactly what the majority of the fans are asking for on those petitions.

Without giving away anything, for me personally, I was disappointed in the fact that the ending opened up a lot of plot holes, did not answer questions satisfactorily, actually opened even more questions, and it did not provide any closure as to what happened to the crew and to the rest of the galaxy. The brief scenes shown about their fates were confusing and, well, I'll say it again, opened up more questions and plot holes. All of the different endings have the same problem.

I don't expect DLC to change the ending but I would like to see something that answers some of the questions left hanging, corrects the plot holes, and gives us a bit more closure as to the fate of our crew members and the rest of the citizens of the galaxy. As it stands the ending is just depressing and confusing. Here's to hoping. If not, I still enjoyed the game but my subsequent playthroughs won't be filled with the same hope that I had before.

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WingusofDingus
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 4:03:37 AM

For the most part, many just want an ending that explains what happened. Like what happens to all the other characters that you spent all ME2 building up and only got to see 5 minute cameos of them in ME3.

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Gabriel013
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 7:41:54 AM

Wingus, There could be a whole spread of DLC focusing around each of the characters who survive ME3. Think of the revenue generating possibilities!

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Underdog15
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 9:12:32 AM

I still don't understand why endings need to explain -EVERYTHING- to people... A good story should develop characters well enough that the audience can discern their fate without hand-holding.

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SirLoin of Beef
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 9:17:48 AM

@underdog, it's not that everything was answered. It's that they asked all kinds of new questions that, in my opinion, shouldn't have been asked.

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Underdog15
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 9:53:42 AM

Yeah? Fair enough. Like I said, I don't really know as I didn't beat it.

What kinds of new questions? I think I would have a beef if say they had a to be continued thing, or if they left an argument unresolved or discussed, etc.

If they posed a metaphorical question about what so and so will do for the rest of their life or who Shepard will marry, or whether or not a certain character will go on some new adventure or they have to make some sort of decision, I don't really care so much as I should know the answer without being told.

I guess the only reason I get skeptical is because of how many people thought UC3 has plot holes... just because they lacked the ability to be the 2nd narrator. The answers were right there, but no one knows how to look beyond the dialogue.

But I get what you're saying, and I don't doubt you, as I don't know.

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SirLoin of Beef
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 10:16:20 AM

I started a thread about the endings in the forum as I don't want to spoil any more than has already been spoiled.

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Teddie9
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 5:16:14 PM

@Gabriel

You may have just hit the mark.

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maia160
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 4:13:49 AM
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That sounds reasonable Wingus. I'll be honest, I'd be thrilled with something that allowed Shep to reunite with the crew but I'd also be happy with some of the questions answered and learning more about their fate.

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Whiskey
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 7:17:33 AM
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Well good afternoon all.

I completed ME3 yesterday, and believe you me.... after over 100 hours and 5 years....I was left gobsmacked. When you finish it, I'm sure you will understand the fans frustration. I certainly do

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Underdog15
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 9:14:26 AM
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Now, I'm not sure as I haven't beaten it, but I suspect, based on the fact the disappointment is -not- found with everyone, that this is another case of melodramatic expectations.

People -need- happy endings or every last detail explained. Why... I don't really know. I'm sure the ending is more than acceptable but fans are expecting some sort of perfect conclusion.

Sometimes a negative ending can be more potent and say more than a happy, fluffy one.

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Opinionz
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 10:13:45 AM

Why don't you idiots that keep saying - "Well I didn't beat the game yet but so and so" STFU and BEAT the game, or go Youtube the 3 EXACT SAME endings, before you talk.

Jesus, why do people comment on shit they have no idea about? I swear people just love to hear themselves talk.

Hey I am white, not black or jewish but I want to comment on slavery and the holocost. i wasnt there but i am sure it was just a bunch of melodramatic whiners. See how stupid that sounds? You sound JUST AS STUPID making comments about shit you have no idea about or experience with. Makes me laugh AT YOU.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 10:24:03 AM

Opinionz: Tone down the hostility. Now.

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Underdog15
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 1:53:20 PM

Well, I suppose when it comes to stupid comments, you do seem to know what you're talking about...

Also, I wouldn't bother asking Jesus about that. I'm sure he has often wondered the same thing. :p

Read some of my earlier comments in this exact thread, opinionz. I think I've been more than fair.

Edit: Did you seriously compare someone downplaying the horrors of the holocaust with a video game with aliens and spaceships?

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childs145
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 11:15:58 AM
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So now that i'm done actually reading everything you guys have written, you guys that have not beaten or seen the ending don't know how horrible this ending is so i won't judge you. those who beat it and are not upset are either playing the game in movie mode or just didn't spend hours in the previous game crafting a story the way you wanted it. which is the bases for mass effect its game where we control what happens in the middle and endings, this was the hype of the game and that was not the case at the end of ME3. if you walk into a ice cream shop who says they have 37 flavors and they only have 3 how would you feel. focus on the facts pls. I spent hours redoing dialogues in 1 and 2 to save as many people as i could and have as many races in a better situation than when i found them just for all of that to not mean anything at the end come on. if you have any back bone at all you will sign and demand ME to make good on there promise to the fans this is not a book, novel or linear rpg game its a game where player decisions are supposed to judge the outcome.

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Underdog15
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 1:55:43 PM

"players are supposed to judge the outcome"

They set themselves up for failure there... What an incredibly subjective idea, don't you think?

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childs145
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 7:51:47 PM

when i 1st heard of ME i thought making a game where players actions control the ending was insane but I've played PS1 rpg's that had over 60 endings just no where near the graphics so i thought it might be possible this game could work and ME1 pulled it off then ME2 did it again no they didn't change the major ending but it was obvious that the choices you made did something. that isn't in the end of ME3 at all. True the actions you made did show through out the middle portions of ME3 but we love the middle the ending was just so botched its hard to ignore. I'm slowly coming to terms by making my true ending the point after the illusive man dies and the rest is up to fan fiction and my imagination.

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hadouken
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 1:53:34 PM
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I assume the ending is something like Saints row the third.

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Darkkrow
Monday, March 12, 2012 @ 6:57:49 PM
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Some good arguments on here. This video sums up the deleted content, plotholes and the inconsistencies in the ending. Suffice to say there are spoilers, so beware.

http://youtu.be/UDSwW7jflAQ

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