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PSXE Poll Update: Kara Tech Demo Has A Very Big Impact

It ran in real-time on the PlayStation 3 and it's a year old. And man, did it make gamers stand up and applaud.

Quantic Dream's "Kara" tech demo was one of the most impressive trailers we've seen this generation, and according to our most recent poll, it seems most of you would agree. It was special, wasn't it?

The vast majority said Quantic Dream is "amazing" and although the character of Kara won't be involved in the team's new game (or so we've heard), there's no doubt she will be remembered. As you might expect from such a talented developer, that piece was beautifully designed, extremely well acted, and brilliantly choreographed. It reminds us of just how progressive Heavy Rain really was and makes us all pine for information on QD's newest project. Here's hoping they lift the lid on that one some time soon.

This week, the uncertain state of the Japanese video game industry has been a common topic of conversation, so we thought we'd ask the readers: How do you view the situation? Do you think too much of the criticism is unfounded and there are plenty of great Japanese titles available? Or do you agree that Japanese developers are slipping and, when compared to their Western counterparts, the products simply pale in comparison?

Tags: quantic dream, quantic dream tech demo, kara, japanese games, gaming industry

3/18/2012 8:43:21 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (33 posts)

WYO1016
Sunday, March 18, 2012 @ 9:51:45 PM
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Is anyone else missing the poll? I'm using Chrome, and the poll hasn't shown up in the sidebar for a week or two.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, March 18, 2012 @ 9:55:55 PM

That happened last time too, I'm sure Ben will have it up in a few minutes.

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WYO1016
Sunday, March 18, 2012 @ 9:58:05 PM

It looks like the poll is up on the main page, but it doesn't show up within the articles anymore.

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BikerSaint
Sunday, March 18, 2012 @ 10:23:25 PM

I've been using Mozilla & all of the sudden, the poll's not showing up for me either

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 10:25:27 AM

It's on the main page for everyone, pretty sure.

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BikerSaint
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 1:57:26 PM

Ben,
Just an FYI,

OK, it IS showing up now, but it wasn't at the time(EST) of my prior post above.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, March 18, 2012 @ 9:55:34 PM
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Strange that they would go to the trouble of hiring that actress just to do a tech demo isn't it? Someone should keep an eye on her to see if she's going to any motion capture studios.

Aside from the bigger titles like GT5 and MGS4 I'd say Japanese developers are definitely slipping. They don't spend the money, they don't understand the audience, their technology isn't factoring in things like physics, and attempts to westernize are both hurtful to their games and are a terrible business plan. It just goes to show you what happens when folks don't stick to their own strengths.

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PC_Max
Sunday, March 18, 2012 @ 10:20:58 PM

Agreed. I thought the female voice/actor pulled it off perfectly and believably. AND the underlining subject of the demo is an interesting one to explore. Self-awareness, what is human, etc, etc.

Hopefully, if this demo is just that from a technical test stance, they follow something close to these lines. And hire the same actress for a similar role.

Of Heavy Rain did not satisfy everyones tastes but QD knows how to tell a story and pull you in to it. Hopefully they will reveal more throughout this year. Why would they show this if they were not going to announce sometime this year about their latest project.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, March 18, 2012 @ 10:25:08 PM

Not just her voice but her face too.

http://www3.images.coolspotters.com/photos/422061/valorie-curry-profile.png

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Lawless SXE
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 2:51:13 AM

Well, the sheila from The Casting tech demo played Lauren in Heavy Rain , so there's a precedent for the inclusion of the actress in the final game. Just sayin'

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Looking Glass
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 9:01:33 AM

@ WorldEndsWithMe

With regard to Japanese developers I think the terms you're speaking in are WAY too broad and general. Could you be more specific? For example the westernizing and lack of understanding of audience criticisms are plausibly applicable for Square-Enix but the same is not true for others like Gust and Idea Factory for example.

You also seem to be implying that a game has to be an expensive technological heavy-hitter to be good. I would have to disagree with that.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 3:10:22 PM

Gust and Idea Factory create some wonderful niche games, I have a few, but they are clearly on a shoestring budget. Pretty much any JRPG that tried to fuse turn based and action based gameplay found itself in hot water with the fans. But I think it's more important to examine Grandia IV, Suikoden VI, Legaia 3, Rogue Galaxy 2, and Shadow Hearts 4. We should look at them because they aren't there. Why?

As far as the tech goes, I'm not saying a game that isn't super advanced can't be great (hell I play sub-par games all the time) I'm just saying that yes, these devs are behind technologically.

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Looking Glass
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 3:20:53 PM

@ WorldEndsWithMe

"I'm just saying that yes, these devs are behind technologically"

But you also seem to be implying that that's a bad thing (saying that Japanese developers are slipping and citing that, more or less, as a reason). And I would disagree with that. I firmly believe that not being as technologically advanced as it's peers doesn't make a game or developer poorer, just different.

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maxpontiac
Sunday, March 18, 2012 @ 10:40:00 PM
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Quite simply one of the best things I experienced regarding my hobby. I sure hope a game comes of it someday.

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Beamboom
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 7:15:53 AM
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It warms a sci-fi fans heart to read the enthusiasm this clip received. It's just so cool.

And if you like this you might also have liked some of the sci-fi movies and books that is out there - go on a discovery today! there are plenty of true gems waiting to be found.
Personally I would in particular recommend collections of sci-fi short stories. They often cover these classic, extensional questions with fascinating elegance. :)

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JackC8
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 9:00:06 AM
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How's the Japanese gaming industry? Well, I see Ninja Gaiden 3 just got a 3/10 from IGN.

I dunno, they seem to have their heads in the sand and are totally oblivious to what's going on in the rest of the gaming world. Their studio heads act like lazy rock stars and everybody else seems mired in corporate bureaucracy. Maybe one of those big companies like Square Enix needs to to go bankrupt to give the rest of them the kick in the butt they need to start competing instead of resting on their laurels.

Or maybe the publishers just need to outsource the vast majority of their game development to Western studios like Sony does.

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Looking Glass
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 9:11:55 AM

I think you're being WAY too broad and general. Could you be more specific?

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Highlander
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 11:49:34 AM

really? 3/10? CVG just gave it 8/10. Seems like someone somewhere must really be hating on specific games. That's one of the problems with gauging the state of Japanese games based on IGN reviews, don't you think?

:/

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Underdog15
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 9:25:17 AM
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I voted they are slipping. Only a couple worth playing. And even then, I'd only recommend them to jRPG fans.

I prefer jRPG's over any other genre. I even had more fun with the two Ateliers than most other games this gen. But I'm not an idiot, either. I look at them, and I -KNOW- they could be done better. Even if you love how it's done, it simply does not attempt to reach another level.

jRPG's used to be a benchmark for the entire industry. They certainly are not anymore. There's a lot of contributing factors, but the truth is, as much as I loved my WKC and Ateliers, they aren't exactly "cream of the crop"...

The gameplay mechanics work wonderfully. But the rest of it is rather underwhelming. WKC's story was pathetic. (LOVED the gameplay, though. Especially the vastly improved version in WKC2)

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Highlander
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 10:27:31 AM
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Vanquish, GT5, MGS4, The Atelier series, WKC/WKC2, and Hot Shots Golf. Some of my favorite games of this generation, all from Japanese developers.

Pure and simple I think this idea that Japanese developers are slipping is a steaming pile of bull crap that is being pushed by western developers who are to busing preening their egos to notice how utterly offensive their points of view can be. The same is true for the morons within the Japanese industry that believe this stupidity about westernizing their games. As for review sources in the west and their handling of high profile games from Japan...It seems to me that these reviewers heavily buy into the rather plain and obvious anti-japanese sentiment and are reviewing games from the point of view of how backward or outmoded they are compared to superior western games.

The whole things is xenophobic and makes me utterly ashamed. For a start, if games are an artistic medium, then the technology is not the point. The point is the game and the play. I have found over the last 10 years that more and more western gamers, developers and reviewers want realistic, gritty and violent 'games'. I put 'games' in quotes, because often times it seems more than people want an experience rather than play. Japanese games on the other hand have a greater focus (IMHO) on fun and play and are very much games in the truer sense of the word. They use art styles that do not heavily lean on the green and brown palette, and are unreal or surreal instead of realistic and gritty. It's a broad sweeping argument to be sure, but even games like MGS4 have an unreal, too clean look compared to western action games. So did Vanquish.

I honestly am coming to loathe and detest the game output of the western industry in general. If the game does not involve a shooting mechanic of some kind it is either a sports or driving simulator or there is some other realistic combat element to replace the shooting. This is less about the Japanese industry and more about the horrible direction that the western gaming industry has taken. The shooter behemoth created by MS and others has skewed the entire western gaming industry and game playing population towards these more realistic action games. It's not so much Japan that has refused to change, it's us that have moved away from them. They still play, 'we' experience.

:(

I await the thumbs down express with glee.

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Ludicrous_Liam
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 11:55:56 AM

Yeah - I see what you're saying with the whole 'guns, guns and more guns' thing. That really has become synonymous with pretty much every action game released this gen. However, I don't mind shooty shooty as long as it's not the main attraction of the game.

I think a game like Uncharted typifies this. Yeah, even this western game is also a culprit - you probably are shooting more often than not - but you're always more intrested in the the story and what's going to happen next in the game.

I can't truly explain it. The 'experiance' part is the 'looking forward to progressing in the game etc' and the 'game' part is the shooting/exploring/any other interactive elements. The guns part could just as well be replaced with spud guns for all I care - it's just that using a gun as the gameplay works really well when telling a 'believable story', if you get my meaning. If you're trying to tell a story that isn't particulary realistic or doesn't take itself too seriously - LittleBiGPlanet for example - then gun's aren't necessary. Of course, there's exceptions to the rule - Heavy Rain for another example - but y'know that's a different thing entirely.

Does anyone know what the **** I'm talking about or am I just rambling from the perculiar recesses of my odd little mind? xD

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Looking Glass
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 12:01:15 PM

Sorry to disappoint you. But I've got no thumb down for you.

I get the impression that at least some western professional reviewers have become biased against Japanese games. I myself don't even bother looking at most professional western reviews anymore when it comes to Japanese games.

I also think technology is something that tends to get over-emphasized in video games. While there is certainly nothing wrong with being a technological heavy-hitter I firmly believe that this kind of thing should not be required for a game to be viewed as good.

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Highlander
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 12:14:09 PM

@liam

'The 'experiance' part is the 'looking forward to progressing in the game etc' and the 'game' part is the shooting/exploring/any other interactive elements. The guns part could just as well be replaced with spud guns for all I care - it's just that using a gun as the gameplay works really well when telling a 'believable story', if you get my meaning."

I get your meaning. But *play* isn't all about shooting. Playing is not about killing or pretending to kill, or fighting, or any other violence. It doesn't have to be that way. For that matter even if the 'play' does feature violence it doesn't have to be realistic, precisely because it's a game for people to *play*. Ratchet and Clank are great examples of this.

But the thing is, play doesn't have to be action, it can be so many more things than action. but the majority of western games offer little more than action when it comes to game*play*. I think that Japanese developers do a better job of providing toys to play with than western ones do, precisely because they are not wrapped up in providing a cinematic gaming experience.

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BikerSaint
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 2:00:33 PM

Highlander,

no downvotes so far, so no glee for you, LOL

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Beamboom
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 3:23:59 PM

It takes a stone cold heart to downvote your love and devotion for the Japanese, Highlander. Stone cold I say.

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Ludicrous_Liam
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 11:34:12 AM
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I watched I-Robot last night, and I think this 'teaser' definatly drew inspiration from it. I mean, it's not like that's a bad thing - the film was brilliant. I'd actually love for QD to have a spin on the concept of robots being incorporated into our world.

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Highlander
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 11:40:23 AM

lol, well i-robot was a travesty of a movie considering it's based on the Isaac Asimov classic by the same name. I say it's based on it, but it's less based on it than named after it...

If anything, the Kara trailer shares more with the Asimov original than the action movie.

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Ludicrous_Liam
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 12:01:02 PM

Well...throw out the fact that it's the americans again remaking something because they aren't orginal enough to come up with something else unique - then it was a bloody good film. xD

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Highlander
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 12:10:01 PM

I liked the movie, *after* I was able to separate it from the original Asimov story. I used to be a huge Asimov Fan, I still have almost everything he ever wrote - haven't read them lately. But I have to say I really don;t like movie adaptations of his stories and books because they invariably miss the mark. Bi-centennial Man makes me cry, but not because it's a sad emotional movie, it's because the Asimov original is so *very* much better. There was an opportunity in both cases to do more, and it was missed. That said, I-robot was a good enough movie in its own right.

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Ludicrous_Liam
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 12:51:05 PM

I don't think I'll ever watch any Stephen King films for much the same reason: they would totally destory the mental images I have from reading the books, e.g I would think about the film when reading rather than conjuring my own envisioning. Which reminds me - I really wanna read the 'The Stand' book again now. I don't think they made a film for that one either, did they? I'm not gunna look 'cause I'll wanna watch it then.

In fact, don't tell me. :P

Edit: ....heh.......THE B*STARDS! THEY DID IT!

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Beamboom
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 1:59:35 PM

Oh yeah, the movie is just *never* as good as the book. It's not possible. But I too think this movie is good. Great, actually.

And the teaser had obvious "inspirations" from that and other movies too. But to be fair, the idea of robots becoming human, and artificial intelligence starting to think for themselves, well that's just *THE* most used theme for sci-fi over the years.

I can't from the top of my head come to think of any other topic that is as common as that. It's probably *the* sci-fi cliche. But lovely topic still. :)

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Highlander
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 3:16:51 PM

Oh, while I remember to plug it again, please watch (if you have not already done so) Chobbits for an anime take on the impact of computational devices/androids with human appearance. It's more about the philosophical issues that such devices would bring, but it does a nice job of raising difficult issues that have to some extent already begun to appear in society with the technology we already have.

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Rogueagent01
Monday, March 19, 2012 @ 2:37:26 PM
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Highlander I don't really know why you would expect thumbs down for having a fairly accurate view. Another game/series to add to your list is the Yakuza games(at least for me). They have so many things to offer in the game and they are on par if not better then some of these so called western masterpieces. The great thing about the Yakuza games is though the main stories are very violent the rest of the game is about as far from violent as it can be, and that is why I love these games as much as I do. They offer up so many different levels of game*play*.

I actually just picked up Vanquish last week and have had fun playing it. I have yet to play the Atelier games but I keep hearing good things about them. MGS4 well nothing needs to be said about that one. GT5 and Hot Shots Golf I won't play just because they aren't my cup of tea, but WKC and the second one are fantastic games as well.

I also feel that the Japanese devs are doing fine with the obvious exception of SE.

EDIT: This was suppose to be a reply to your earlier comment, I have no idea why it didn't post there as I clicked the reply button on your comment.

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