Are Video Games Stopping Our Children From Growing Up?
This is difficult to write, primarily because it's difficult to acknowledge as a distinct possibility.
Last year, The Atlantic published an intriguing and well-written feature (does The Atlantic produce anything else?) entitled, "The End of Men." It addressed a sociological shift in our society that involves women surpassing men in a variety of categories, from schooling to career success to general independence and even intelligence. Furthermore, one doesn't have to look far to find concerned editorials and even scientific studies that tackle a disturbing trend: Males in this country simply refusing to grow up.
Obviously, video games can hardly be pinned down as the sole culprit, but there's little doubt that games can be linked to our childhoods. And of course, indulging in a fictional fantasy world is also associated with child-like hobbies, such as comic books and cartoons. Furthermore, strictly from my own experience, I can indeed confirm that those who really get lost in fantasy universes as adults (cosplayers, D&D-ers, etc.) tend to exhibit more adolescent traits and haven't really advanced quite as far in terms of life achievements. They're just plain behind.
But I won't use anecdotal evidence to prove a point. I do, however, refer you to a recent Kotaku feature, where prominent game makers talk about the shockingly common receipt of death threats from disgruntled gamers. Of course, I am quick to blame the Internet more than the games - as we should all rightfully do - because the power of the anonymous voice is unparalleled. With little in the way of potential consequences, people can basically react however they wish without fear of any real reprisal. That's the nature of the Internet and reaches far beyond gaming.
But that's not what's concerning. What's concerning is the fact that the vast majority of such complaints are likely to come from males between the ages of 18 and 30, precisely the sex and age The Atlantic called out last year. Passion is one thing, but reacting to such extreme degrees and essentially getting away with such conduct is counterproductive. When immaturity meets immaturity online, the plague tends to spread; voices of reason and wisdom are quickly drowned out, and gamers are once again given a bad name. The most disturbing? This is entertainment. This level of insanity should be reserved for politics and life-and-death situations, yes?
What this tells me is that far too many people - and again, many of which are males of a certain age - simply aren't doing enough with their lives. The only way people get worked up enough to send death threats is if the subject in question dominates a fair portion of their day-to-day lives. The guy who works a normal work week and raises a family does not have time (or energy) to do anything like this, and would likely regard any such over-the-top reactions as, wait for it...childish. Thing is, when we regrettably grow up, our minds are occupied with things that actually matter. There simply isn't any room for mass hysteria over a video game.
Therefore, perhaps it's perfectly legitimate to suggest that interactive entertainment can have a negative impact on the development of children. One might argue that getting too "involved" in anything can result in such frightening passion that leaks out as immature hostility. But that really isn't true; kids who get lost in a book and learn to love reading probably won't be sending authors death threats in their teen and young adult years.
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4/23/2012 8:46:53 PM Ben Dutka
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telly
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 9:49:56 AM
Adulthood is frigging awesome. There, I said it. You get to dedicate your professional life to careers that are of interest and consequence to you, you learn more about yourself and what you really like, you learn to resolve conflicts better, things that used to bother you no longer do, romance becomes common, you learn to take care of yourself and not rely on other people to do it for you, which gives you FREEDOM to do what you want and when you want to do it, and on and on and on.
Oh yeah, and you have the money to buy all the damn video games you want :)
telly
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 9:50:34 AM
telly
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 10:00:21 AM
Jawknee
Monday, April 23, 2012 @ 11:02:42 PM
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Underdog15
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 8:28:23 AM
There's nothing wrong with continuing to build upon the hobbies you built skills in as a child, though. I still love playing soccer and baseball, and I still enjoy relaxing with video games.
But the difference is in the priorities. Obviously as a kid, the priority is to get to the hobby and have fun, exclusively. As an adult, the hobbies are more than welcome to stay, but they can no longer be the objective of a day. They become an extra, and I find that the harder I work anyways, the more likely I am to have time for hobbies. (And more money for it too!)
You hit the nail on the head when you said that hobbies begin to rule people's lives. When the hobbies become the only thing people think about all day, video games or otherwise, they need to re-prioritize. The only thing I would add is that bit about it being ok to continue having hobbies. Especially if it builds on the skills earned as a kid.
zard
Tuesday, May 01, 2012 @ 6:53:40 PM
Alejandro562
Monday, April 23, 2012 @ 11:39:22 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 12:27:11 AM
Palpatations911
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 12:34:50 AM
Underdog15
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 8:22:53 AM
AcHiLLiA
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 3:17:57 PM
On another note, everything was going good until u brought up ur cousin, I think that is a personal manner in way, but hope that ur cousin overcome's that issue someday.
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PharaohJR
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 1:11:49 AM
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if 1 teaches there offspring timely to seperate matters from pleasure & shows why as wisdom develops(common sense) the youth will situate whats important before indulging in pleasure. you will still have those that believe fun is more important then being serious but if time is taken to enlight the youth those of fun wont be that vast.
you see, its a dominoe effect thats been created some decades ago & i can asure you its not video games that triggered it......
inkme101
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 1:32:19 AM
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JUST KIDDING!
Seriously though i have enjoyed games my entire life but, i always managed to play in moderation. Ive turned out OK. 9 to 5 job, pay bills, spend time with the kids, hell i even game with the kids but i make them do it in moderation as well. If my son could he would play that damn cod all day long but i as a parent set boundaries and he follows them and apart from becoming a total mini D-BAG using words like epic, beast, and ninja! i really don't see any adverse effects! he pulls straight a's in school his homework and chores always come first, hes an avid football player (no call of duty comes b4 that) and an all around mature well rounded kid! my point being that regardless of games or whatever else it comes down to this YOUR CHILD WILL GROW UP BASED ON HOW YOU BRING THEM UP!!!!! its all in the hands of the parents!
shadowscorpio
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 2:36:35 AM
I think that there is an exception to everything. Anyone getting into gaming these days is experiencing something different than what we experienced when we started. Everything from the visual display to the connectivity. We grew along with the industry so we may have a better sense of how to deal with the current gaming environment maturely.
Anyone relatively new to the current gaming environment may get trapped into the "childish" gaming community. Again, like I mentioned earlier, there are exceptions to everything. I've read post by young'ns on this site that actually seem like they have a mature head on there shoulders. Though, we can't be so naive to think that childish gamers aren't a problem with the industry.
Lawless SXE
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 3:02:11 AM
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Even without games, I know a surprising number of people in their twenties and early thirties that are immature at best, but become almost unbearable when in contact with certain other people. It's not necessarily refusing to grow up, but desiring so much to retain the same carefree attitude of their youth. Mind you, some of these people are married, most all have full-time jobs and some are great to talk to when I'm alone with them. It's just bizarre that they're so easily dragged into puerility.
All of that being said, I contemplated writing a similar article some time back about the possibility of gaming leading to a generation of underachievers. While what you've written doesn't necessarily address that, it's far more coherent than my plans indicated the final product would be... but it's nice to see we think along similar lines :)
WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 3:27:04 AM
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My point? People's priorities are messed up. No need to grow up in the age of convenience. I can't believe nobody thinks its rude to mess around on their phone when you're with them. There's your breakdown of society.
Underdog15
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 8:45:18 AM
It's their prioritization over the things that matter that is to blame. And that blame rests solely on the shoulders of each individual. Not the medium or technology that hosts them.
Beamboom
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 3:28:47 AM
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There's no denying that there is something fundamentally childish about the concept of moving a wizard around throwing fireballs at monsters. It's an extension of playing with toys on the living-room floor.
Are we as gamers therefore slightly more immature than "the rest"? I think we probably are. But I keep the child in me alive with pride. It's how I want to be.
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Underdog15
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 8:43:10 AM
What I think matters is the shift in priorities. So long as people do grow up and fend for themselves in life and establish goals and seek to achieve them, while keeping family and friends important and before games, who's to say anything against those couple hours left over when you're by yourself? If everything else is taken care of, why not play video games? (or sports, or collect something, or build something, or whatever your hobby is/hobbies are)
Beamboom
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 9:10:43 AM
Cause it's not really a question about setting priority either - their priority sets themselves. "Want to keep your house? Then pay on your loan. Ergo get to work, you lazy sob".
But that doesn't change the factual properties of what we do when we play our games. I hate to over-intellectualize what we do, and what we do is play. Simple as that. :)
telly
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 9:59:36 AM
No question there's escapism involved in gaming, but for me, I think there's a major, major distinction between those of us who hold down good jobs, maintain healthy relationships and friendships, manage our finances well, and crucially, have other, "normal" adult interests and still like to blast aliens now and then, vs. those that blast aliens and obsess over blasting aliens at the expense of growing the hell up. The big question though -- how many of "us" are there, vs. how many of "them"? I just don't know.
Beamboom
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 11:48:42 AM
I don't think there's anything wrong in being childish when given the chance. Really, we should all play more, not less. But is it immature to play with little avatars who run around with magic abilities and big flashy armour, or dressing up our little sack boys with flower hats and funny masks? I mean... c'mon. Of course it is.
It's playing. And I feel no need to excuse it for being so.
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telly
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 11:55:47 AM
Underdog15
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 8:39:43 AM
But if there's an overall goal that requires you to have the education your getting, or you can justify it with a larger dollar sign following completion, then, yeah. It most definitely counts for a lot for the good guys!
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Sir Dan
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 7:35:16 AM
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Underdog15
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 8:34:45 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 2:38:32 PM
Cole
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 7:45:14 AM
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Russell Burrows
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 8:06:34 AM
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Underdog15
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 8:32:57 AM
I mean, you could say, what about those hooligans who break into homes and rob them blind, or the hooligans in real life who steal cars or old lady's purses.
You're comparing hobbies that contribute to learned behaviours with criminal activity. It's not really the same topic.
Ludicrous_Liam
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 10:21:29 AM
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When I was about 4, my mom got me a Sega Genesis. However, I don't really remember playing it much, because my main 'hobby' as it were, was - who am I kidding, still is - watching Scooby Doo! :P So yeah - gaming was definatly second-best in that regard.
Then, on my 5th birthday, my mom got me a PS1. Again, this wasn't the moment I started gaming - I got it so I could play "Scooby Doo & The Cyber Chaser" xD But I did play certain games quite extensively, now that I think about it; Crash Bandicoot, Abe's Oddysee, and some other images I have in my head that I can't remember the name of, were all games that practically warrented a purchase of...
A PS2! A bit late, around 2004/5, I had played enough games at friends to have the incentive to buy it (we had just moved house and we had to sell our previous house for less than it should've, so money was tight and £99 was a lot). And yet still this wasn't the turning point of me being a gamer! I mostly played PES 2005 because my main hobby at the time was football. Same as with my PS1, I did still play certain games - GTA, Scooby Doo (xD), Splinter Cell, and quite a few more (than my PS1 game collection, anyway) - moreso than a casual gamer might, but I'd say I was still a casual gamer.
And then came the PS3, and I didn't take a second notice xD "£450!? No way. I'm happy with my PS2, thanks." But eventually I saw the PS3 and some of the trailers, thought 'that looks good' and I was sold. That's right. I made my mom buy an object for £289 because it looked good. Hey, I was 12! So, I got my first game, GTA, and honestly, it wasn't as good as I expected. I don't know, at the time I just couldn't get into it. But after that, I got RE5, and that's probably when I became a 'gamer'. I know it's a strange game to start off with, but playing coop with a good friend of mine was just fantastic fun. Then I bought LBP, Killzone 2, & Uncharted 1 in quick succession and the rest is history.
Oh erm, yeah, back to the question: Looking back at my life story above, I think you can point out that I didn't play games as a 'real' hobby until I had matured a bit more. I think that can be applied to this topic, because if you were to take gaming as 'real' hobby at an earlier age by which stage you haven't yet matured, it may have some sort of negative effect on your growth. Maybe. Or maybe it's a accumalation of different factors, e.g. watching TV, that can have a negative effect, with gaming being one of them. Maybe. Nobody really knows, so it's all just speculation. And really, if you just pin it down to gaming...that's just a bit unfair.
Longest post EVAR!!! I should really stop binge-posting. xD
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Nick42
Tuesday, April 24, 2012 @ 8:27:52 PM
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The main study work of my PhD is Isotope and Elemental Fractionation Geochemistry. Studying the processes and controls on the chemistry of magma chambers under volcanoes with applications for the minerals industry.
And I still find time to dress as a Quarian and play Crash Bandicoot :D
Underdog15
Wednesday, April 25, 2012 @ 10:23:46 AM
Is there really a large variety of mineral deposits in magma, though? And is there any form of application that would allow us to "excavate" these resources relatively cheaply? And if so, are there any investors out there with the money to let go to make such research applicable?
Justover6
Thursday, April 26, 2012 @ 12:33:21 PM
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However look at movies with males, they are no different from the ones in the 70s almost, same bullies, same locker jokes, same women problems, EVERYTHING. There is no Emo kid playing football, because that's just IMPOSSIBLE. Even though to be a football player all you have to be is a bit masochistic and sadistic, but cutting yourself isn't, is it? You can always find out about women sex problems, 16 and pregnant. But what about guy sex problems, since the internet has been invented almost every 12 to 14 year old looks at porn. So why are they so ashamed of it. What about the 16 year old guys having sex with women for two years straight while breaking up and making up weekly throughout the relationship. How come the geeky guy can't get the popular girl without special powers. What about the male nerds and geeks that become indifferent to almost everything but what they like, until they get special powers.
The most guys get is a small pat on the back, like; hey look on TV there's a jock playing madden or a lawyer playing World of War craft, or a gothic girl as an awesome scientist everyone loves. And generally their almost always adults.
In society young males really aren't dealing with their social problems, and when you don't, you drown it out with stuff you like, be it poison or video games.
Nick42
Friday, April 27, 2012 @ 7:31:37 PM
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In terms of excavation it wouldn't be working on extracting from active systems. My work focusses on how the elements partition during their time in a magma chamber, the resource is available much later after the system has frozen. And in terms of investors, hell if there is a viable resource out there someone will go for it, just look at the launch of Planetary Resources this week - a company with the aim of extraction from meteorites in space!
Nick42
Friday, April 27, 2012 @ 7:31:39 PM
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In terms of excavation it wouldn't be working on extracting from active systems. My work focusses on how the elements partition during their time in a magma chamber, the resource is available much later after the system has frozen. And in terms of investors, hell if there is a viable resource out there someone will go for it, just look at the launch of Planetary Resources this week - a company with the aim of extraction from meteorites in space!
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