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Is Max Payne Just Too Old?

So the big news coming from Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter is that Max Payne 3 didn't do half as well as L.A. Noire in the same span of time. Is it a sign...?

That doesn't mean MP3 is a sales failure, considering that it was #2 on the May NPD charts and it was reported that Take-Two had shipped 3 million copies. But it does imply that after eight years, and given the ridiculous speed at which this industry advances, the name "Max Payne" might've fallen on too many deaf ears.

Back in September of last year, we wondered if the franchise's popularity had declined. Too many people between a certain age just aren't familiar with the series in question, despite its widespread popularity and high critical acclaim earned between eight and ten years in the past. In this day and age, unless you can keep a franchise name relevant by releasing new titles every few years or so, you're in danger of obsolescence. The competition is too stiff and too many new (or relatively new) franchises are dominating sales lists.

So the question is, did Rockstar simply wait too long to release Max Payne 3? We get the feeling that had it released back in 2006 or 2007, it would've been a huge seller; having a brand new IP like L.A. Noire - as great as it was - being so far ahead in terms of sales could be an indication of Max Payne's age. Let's not forget that MP3 didn't exactly have tough competition; only Diablo III and maybe Ghost Recon: Future Soldier really made any waves in May. But then again, maybe Max Payne just wasn't big enough to begin with...you could release GTAV in 2015 and it'd still hit huge, right? I mean, it's Grand Theft Auto.

Related Game(s): Max Payne 3

Tags: max payne 3, max payne sequel, la noire, rockstar

6/15/2012 12:08:03 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (21 posts)

Jawknee
Friday, June 15, 2012 @ 12:29:22 PM
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I'm waiting or a GOTY edition or a complete edition. Never again will I be fooled into buying a Rockstar game on Day One only to find that they are re-releasing the game with $50 worth of extra content. (L.A. Noir/Red Dead).

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firesoul453
Friday, June 15, 2012 @ 12:58:16 PM

I know what you mean! If I know a game is going to release a bunch of dlc (and that I will want the dlc) I will definitely wait for the complete game to come out on disk.

Especially since then all the game is on disk and not partly digital!

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AshT
Friday, June 15, 2012 @ 1:29:01 PM

I got them both few weeks earlier on sale on PSN

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MyWorstNightmar
Friday, June 15, 2012 @ 1:39:19 PM

I agree with you. But it will be hard to lay off of the next Red Dead for perhaps a whole year waiting for a complete edition (for me at least).

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Sol
Friday, June 15, 2012 @ 6:50:05 PM

Wait a sec though, don't they have to really sell well before they get a GotY Edition?

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Fane1024
Friday, June 15, 2012 @ 8:10:11 PM

I think I heard today (half-listening to a podcast) that Two Words 2 is getting a GOTY version, so...nope.


Last edited by Fane1024 on 6/15/2012 8:11:21 PM

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Sol
Saturday, June 16, 2012 @ 5:28:11 AM

Lol, I guess by Game of the Year they mean "game that came out in a particular year" instead of a game that's one of "gaming's most defining experiences of the year." :P

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firesoul453
Saturday, June 16, 2012 @ 10:50:07 AM

There are tons and tons fo different game fo the year awards, companies only need to win one for them to say its game fo the year.

And even if they don't win any (or don't accept some random website as official) they can always release an "Ultimate edition"

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, June 15, 2012 @ 1:07:06 PM
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Well I think L.A. Noire did better because it was so unique and sported some killer new technology. It may have been a Team Bondi production but Rockstar has an incredible eye for making a hit out of settings that people aren't already pumped for, just look at what they did for westerns.

On the other hand yes Max Payne was shelved for far too long. The 3 million copies represent faith in Rockstar plus the return of older MP fans to the series. I think that number will grow, but it missed a chance at being a huge release early this generation.

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frostface
Friday, June 15, 2012 @ 1:23:50 PM
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I didn't like the game. Traded it in for Ghost Recon and I'm having a great time. I never played another Max Payne game before so went into it open-minded. My gripes with the game are more personal opinion than technical (although the MP had severe connection problems). Slow-Mo just wasn't doing it for me.

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firesoul453
Saturday, June 16, 2012 @ 10:50:56 AM

Not sure why people downcoment a comment like this...

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bebestorm
Friday, June 15, 2012 @ 1:47:00 PM
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I think its a combination of too old and the fact Rockstar developed the game instead of Remedy in oher words perhaps it would of been more successful if it was a Remedy game.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, June 15, 2012 @ 2:00:37 PM

perhaps

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5TAY3R
Friday, June 15, 2012 @ 3:39:53 PM
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Maxpayne3 is awesome, I don't give a rats ass to what other people think and buy, anyone who loves TPS, buy it now!

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PAKINIPS
Friday, June 15, 2012 @ 4:40:08 PM
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I haven't bought it because it will be £10 by years end

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Axe99
Friday, June 15, 2012 @ 5:09:42 PM
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There was a release by someone (Rockstar, maybe), that MP3 sold seven times as much in its opening week as MP and MP2 combined - I think another thing we're forgetting is that there's a much greater focus on sales and 'hits' these days. Back in its day, there weren't as many huge mega-hits like CoD and Halo, and Max sounds like it only sold 'normal' amounts for a game. Whereas this time around MP3 seems to have sold pretty well at launch, but because of a much greater focus on these things, people are wondering whether it's done well enough, despite selling far better than the earlier games in the series!

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DemonNeno
Saturday, June 16, 2012 @ 3:06:28 AM

That's untrue. There were plenty of awesome, home-run, games back in Max's earlier career. The problem isn't quite so much that 3 has come too late as much as it's become too... Vibrant. I loved it's dark, contrasting, vibe of the yesteryear. Now, I haven't played 3 yet nor am I aware of how much it has changed (or not) whatsoever. As a consumer, however, I've followed along to a certain extent before believing it has left it's original recipe.

On the other hand; I'm hoping I'm wrong for feeling less inclined to be ecstatic for it. Shooters (of any type) have to compel me towards game play that isn't entirely just a run, duck and gun type of feel. Time shall tell!

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Axe99
Saturday, June 16, 2012 @ 4:33:51 PM

Yes and no, there definitely wasn't the fixation with sales numbers last gen, and there weren't as many 'huge' games either (they were there - GTAs and FFs in particular - but selling 3 million last gen was seen as very successful, whereas now it's clearly not) - last gen selling 3-4 million was considered a great run, now it's considered to be just 'reasonable'.

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Bandit1
Friday, June 15, 2012 @ 10:54:51 PM
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I'd never played Max Payne before, but Rockstar always makes quality stuff, so I planned on getting it. But I bought the original Max Payne and played it before 3 came out. I was surprised how well the original played, and 3 is miles ahead. Amazing game, so much fun.

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___________
Saturday, June 16, 2012 @ 4:50:17 AM
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dont be ridiculous!
just because it has not seen a title in a while does not mean its the reason it did not sell well.
the ridiculously long development time, and the stereotype of games that are in development limbo for so long normally end up sucking would be more of a cause.
but mainly because just like everything else this year it was a massive disappointment!
unfortunately its a typical R* game, it has really boring repetitive levels, lack of enemy variety, uninspired level design and blows out all its smoke within the first few hours!
had so much fast paced action and set pieces up until max shaves his head than everything just slows down to a crawl!
the dreary self pity tone max has does not help either, its like the miserable 8 year old brat that is constantly complaining that shes treated so badly.
get over it, pull yourself together or put a bullet between your eyes!
story does not help either, its really hard to follow and really does not tie up very well.
THAT is why it has sold under expectations.

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Veitsknight
Saturday, June 16, 2012 @ 12:17:30 PM
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The lack of sales has got to do with Diablo III amd Dogma. People are kind of bored with the whole shooter sceene. If not, it had GRFS and Starhawk to Cotend with as well.

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