Gamers Attacking Ebert, Boone Is Somewhat Embarrassing
It began with a Capital article by Steven Boone, which escalated after Roger Ebert agreed with Boone's sentiment.
Unsurprisingly, gamers everywhere have responded, and that includes Forbes contributor Erik Kain, who says Ebert doesn't play video games and should consequently remain quiet. In most cases, I would be one of the first to stand with my fellow gamers on the front lines, facing down a seemingly insurmountable force that ignorantly craps all over this industry on a routine basis. However, this time...we may have to step back and retreat.
If we read Boone's article closely, he does appear to be selling Naughty Dog's The Last Of Us short, as we all know the game will be far more intelligent than your standard shooter. I actually think Boone does critics more of a disservice by insinuating that when all the journalists applauded like crazy for the E3 trailer, this meant we reward flash, titillation, and overt violence all the time. I have to point out, in defense of my position and all other critics in gaming, that the top-rated titles of 2012 so far are Journey, Mass Effect 3, and Xenoblade Chronicles.
But anyway, getting back to the point, I do think Boone doesn't give The Last Of Us enough credit because the final product will provide us with a great deal more than what we saw of that gameplay trailer at E3. But let's face it- Boone's assessment of that presentation is accurate. It really didn't leave anything to the imagination. We're not really going to try to argue that, are we? Anybody who knows anything about art in any format and on any scale would say that subtlety wasn't part of that E3 demonstration.
And if you keep reading that article, Boone basically concludes that there's a war on between "killers and poets," and it's impossible to deny that, as such a war exists in and beyond video games. You will also note that he cites ICO, Shadow of the Colossus, and The Last Guardian as examples of what this industry is capable of. And this really sums things up-
"A more relevant accusation is that many of those Westerners who persist in belittling games as mere 'games' are responding to the Call of Duty: Modern Warfare culture of loud and homicidal pageantry."
Again, something with which I wouldn't disagree. And Ebert agreeing with Boone doesn't seem like a bad thing nor does it appear inaccurate. What we saw at E3 of The Last Of Us doesn't leave anything to the imagination. Perhaps unfortunately, that presentation was like a brainless big-budget action movie teaser. We, the hardcore gamers, know the final product will be about much more. But those outside the industry wouldn't. It's true that Ebert doesn't play games and, apparently, doesn't think too highly of them. And maybe he shouldn't refer to this industry. However, his agreeing with Boone on the main points doesn't seem like a grievous crime to me.
We should pick our fights carefully. In an intelligent, even-minded debate, we might lose this one.
Tags: roger ebert, steven boone, gaming, video games, gaming culture
6/24/2012 9:15:20 PM Ben Dutka
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FxTales
Sunday, June 24, 2012 @ 11:04:13 PM
I know it's easy to focus on the violence and as an outsider you would but it wasn't what I was looking at.
Ludicrous_Liam
Monday, June 25, 2012 @ 5:21:09 AM
These things are always in ND's gameplay videos to make you think "what if [this situation happened]?". This Boone guy just didn't watch it properly, or has a really, (really) one-dimensionally way of thinking. Really annoying to see to be honest...
Neo_Aeon666
Sunday, June 24, 2012 @ 9:55:27 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, June 24, 2012 @ 10:15:12 PM
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Yeah, they want to fire up the customer base with flash but that's standard of advertising any entertainment (showing the most exciting parts).
I wouldn't rage on the dude, it's hard to be particularly angry at the ill-informed. You just feel sorry for them.
BikerSaint
Sunday, June 24, 2012 @ 10:22:38 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, June 24, 2012 @ 10:28:03 PM
Deleted User
Sunday, June 24, 2012 @ 10:27:26 PM
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Nas Is Like
Sunday, June 24, 2012 @ 11:03:19 PM
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, June 24, 2012 @ 11:16:38 PM
Nas Is Like
Sunday, June 24, 2012 @ 11:32:54 PM
bigrailer19
Sunday, June 24, 2012 @ 11:11:02 PM
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Trailers for games can leave a lot untold, and certainly there's more to The Last of Us then we probably know. I have a feeling we'll all be a bit surprised. As where movies you know what your going to get.
Havnt read the article but without reading it, that's all I can say.
LimitedVertigo
Sunday, June 24, 2012 @ 11:15:49 PM
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PC_Max
Sunday, June 24, 2012 @ 11:35:38 PM
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Let the guy do his thing, whether he is misinformed or not, whether we like it or not. He has the right to give his opinion. Really. Never stopped me from going to see a film based on his thumbs down reviews.
It won't affect the industry. Why? Because the gaming industry , the devs and the players bash criticism and get all defensive. Geez. You play right in to their hands, proving their points.
Let it go.... and keep playing!
Nerull
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 3:27:34 AM
bigrailer19
Monday, June 25, 2012 @ 12:04:25 AM
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He doesn't have a point at all. He has an unwarranted opinion. Yea there are a lot of CoD fans and you can say that game has given articles like this some kind of merit. But those people in the crowd watching the live demo, probably don't sit at home and only play CoD. I picture a crowd kind of like most the readers here.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 25, 2012 @ 1:28:16 AM
Ludicrous_Liam
Monday, June 25, 2012 @ 5:31:13 AM
bigrailer19
Monday, June 25, 2012 @ 10:08:25 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 25, 2012 @ 1:29:45 AM
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dmiitrie
Monday, June 25, 2012 @ 4:21:06 AM
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Ludicrous_Liam
Monday, June 25, 2012 @ 5:34:23 AM
dmiitrie
Monday, June 25, 2012 @ 12:52:59 PM
You and I may be able to look at the Last of Us trailer and know that it's more than that because we've seen and heard more about the game and have a lot of trust in ND. But to outside eyes, all that trailer is is a guy and a girl stumbling through the ruins of a city, going into some hotel, and killing a bunch of guys.
And when that's what the developers put out for people, some random guy saying, "No, you're wrong. You just don't get it." isn't very convincing.
___________
Monday, June 25, 2012 @ 5:30:39 AM
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ignorant idiots saying oh rog has said something on games we have to blow it WAY out of proportion!
something that really pisses me off with the media industry these days, they have to take a puddle and turn it into a dam!
however i have to say im not so sure the last of us is going to give us anything BUT a typical hollywood action movie.
uncharted really never has, so why will this?
im with the critics on this, gaming can do SO much more than what it has done everything is about big flashy graphics and tons of violence!
not to say there is no place for it, there certainly is i enjoy your mindless hack and slash gore fest as much as the next guy!
BUT when it comes down to how the industry is now, IE everything being directed by michael bay is when i take a problem!
we have had so many games that try and bring art and drama, emotions, things new into the industry in the past why have we left them?
id like to think david cage would be saying the exact same thing.
we have the ability to create games like the last guardian, ico, heavy rain, beyond good and evil, games that are not about blowing sh*t up, but about journeys and experiences.
so why does everything have to be about blowing sh*t up!?
we need more of the sophisticated story driven drama experiences in the industry and less of the mindless blowing sh*t up!
in other words more david cage and less michael bay!
br0d1n
Monday, June 25, 2012 @ 9:14:55 AM
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Elitist bullshit, if you ask me. Just because a game contains gritty, realistic action sequences does not mean it has nothing to offer intellectually or emotionally. Just because the little kid inside me remembers reading comic books and watching ninja turtles kick foot clan ass on Saturday mornings and still loves fast paced action scenes in movies and games, certainly does not mean there's nothing else going on behind the ol eyelids.
I can understand a knee jerk reaction to a very violent scene. I can understand the parents' point of view, that violence in our media is all too visible to children despite our best efforts to shield them from it. But I cannot understand classifying everyone who enjoys a dark story or a flashy action scene as an under-cultured "killer," hellbent on stamping out the graceful "poets" in our society. Human nature has a dark side, to ignore it and debase it is to turn a blind eye to much of the suffering that exists in our world. And that isn't something I think any self respecting artist or critic should be doing.
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, June 25, 2012 @ 9:51:20 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 25, 2012 @ 10:53:37 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 25, 2012 @ 3:01:08 PM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, June 25, 2012 @ 4:46:44 PM
DjEezzy
Monday, June 25, 2012 @ 10:49:41 AM
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Oyashiro
Monday, June 25, 2012 @ 12:31:08 PM
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Do people clap at the end of the play because the last line was really witty?
I hate to say this, but that guy is a moron.
EagerGamer
Thursday, June 28, 2012 @ 12:15:57 PM
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The Last Of Us









Rogueagent01
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Sunday, June 24, 2012 @ 9:54:21 PM