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Square Enix Essentially Confirms A FFVII Remake Is Impossible

For the first time in a while, a Square Enix executive has directly answered a question concerning the scant possibility of a Final Fantasy VII remake.

Unfortunately, those in the know realize that the answer is little more than an elaborate "no." During a recent Q&A session (as cited by GameSpot), Square Enix CEO Yoichi Wada said they'd deliver a remake for FFVII if...wait for it...

'deep breath' If they create a new Final Fantasy title that surpasses FFVII "in terms of quality and sales." Sadly, the hardcore fans know this leaves the company a couple outs: Even if they do make a FF that tops FFVII in sales, the "quality" part is almost entirely subjective. The only way to define it is to use a Metacritic review average or something; FFVII's average score is 92, which actually seems beatable...provided Square Enix could actually make a FF installment worthy of a higher score.

The most interesting part is that Wada said if they released a remake right now, "the series would be done for." Personally, I'd want some elaboration on that point but I'm afraid I'd actually get it. I'm not really sure how the company views this franchise anymore and at this point, I'm not sure I want to. Probably too depressing.

Related Game(s): Final Fantasy VII

Tags: final fantasy vii remake, ffvii remake, square enix, final fantasy

6/26/2012 8:53:49 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (70 posts)

WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:04:23 PM
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What it probably means is that it would be so popular and make so much money that it would prove this new direction that they refuse to change was always bullsh*t. And SE doesn't make mistakes, even if they have to double down on crap decisions.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:05:07 PM

I would do horrible things to ensure a remake is made.

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Nas Is Like
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:19:13 PM

lmfao @ Vertigo. Well said.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:23:04 PM

I would create a human centipede over there with Wada at the back.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:39:02 PM

Can I be the front!?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:56:37 PM

Yes you may.

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darxed
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 7:53:38 AM

@LV

You wouldn't have to do them alone...

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Killsignal
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 5:44:43 PM

Whats crazy is if they made a remake, it would probably surpass the original in quality and sales!!!! jerks...

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:04:38 PM
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FFVII is dear to my heart (my cold dark heart) and I believe one day we will see a remake of the game. The fact that SE would make a massive amount of money from it is enough proof for me to believe it's inevitable.

But it may be a long time before it happens. Until then I'd appreciate it if SE made FF games even half as good as FFVII.

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Nas Is Like
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:19:47 PM

I truly hope you're right, I'd pay in my blood and semen just to get a remake, preferably on the PS4 so that it's as amazing as it possibly could be.

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:41:38 PM

Oh please. As if paying in semen would be so hard for you! XD

(sry, couldn't resist!)

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Nas Is Like
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:56:08 PM

Well...first I have to grow some balls. Thats not as easy as they say it is.

:p

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:57:40 PM

Tribulus Terresta Nas, that's what a steroid user I know uses to regrow his nads.

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:59:21 PM

lol

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TheAgingHipster
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:08:41 PM
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Not to mention that, if they make a new FF installment that gets a Metacritic score higher than 92, they'll just make a sequel for it instead of FFVII.

I get the distinct impression that Wada just doesn't understand the goldmine he's sitting on. Squeenix is having financial trouble, and instead of investing in a remake that would only require code--no story work, concept art, just programming--and would be guaranteed to sell like crazy, they want to put full production effort into titles that aren't nearly as popular to buyers or critics. That just smacks of poor business planning and, well... stupidity.

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main_event05
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 7:22:51 PM

Maybe he does and is just holding it hostage. Now that you have me thinking, what I hear is him saying, elevate whatever crap we put out to FF7 status and maybe we'll remake 7. Almost kinda like a bribe.

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ZenChichiri
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:42:41 PM
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FFVII remake:

Na na na na! Na na na na! Hey hey hey! Goodbye!

I wish I lived in Japan so I could sit outside of Square headquarters and sing this song.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:48:23 PM

If I was there I would drive a bus loaded with stolen copies of FFXIII through the front door of their headquarters blasting the Crystal Theme.

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:51:27 PM

I'd never do something like that LV....







I'd be playing Jenova's theme song. It could easily double for a fast paced spy/ninja attack song.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:53:18 PM

Oh gawd that's a better choice! That's my ringtone!

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:54:51 PM

lol nice! For text messages, I have the victory fanfare.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:59:02 PM

I had the FFVII victory fanfare of as my ringtone but I hate answering my phone so I started to dislike it and had to change it the Sherlock Holmes movie theme.

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 11:02:13 PM

I change it back and forth myself. It eventually gets annoying. lol But right now, it's back.

For regular incoming calls, it's different for all contacts. I have "Muhnamana" by the Muppets for when my wife calls, original super mario bros. for my buddy Brandon, James Bond for if my parents call, and the intro to Sephiroth's theme when the inlaws call. (lol)

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ZenChichiri
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 11:03:37 PM

I wouldn't even play a cool song for Square. They don't deserve Jenova. They're such a joke, I would just blast the Hamster Dance while maniacally laughing and scattering copies of FFXIII that explode when you open them.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 11:45:40 PM

haha, great pick for presaging doom.

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:50:15 PM
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This news is far more telling than one might notice at first glance...

Why haven't they figured out like... "gee, we sure do have to comment on this 15 year old game a lot." An exploded twitter page... all their staff routinely asked about it... best selling PSN release for a while... warm Crisis Core reception... like... seriously.

It is really weird. And now they won't do it until another FF surpasses it? Not gonna happen!


You know, last week, some friends and I were talking about their favorite games of all time.

Want to know just how unique FFVII is????? HOW LOVED IT IS?!?!?! My one friend's top 3 favorite games were "Red Dead Redemption, Flash Point, and FINAL FREAKING FANTASY 7"!!! His favorite games this generation so far are CoD, GOW, and Uncharted. He is not into jRPG's. But FFVII still managed to be in his top 3 of all time.


No... there is nothing they could ever do with the series to get the accolades they got with FFVII -except- make another damn one.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:55:15 PM

I imagine the entire process is just too daunting right now for the current idiots running SE. They've proven over the years to be pretty incompetent and so maybe we should be thankful they've failed to start the project.

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JaredRocks
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:58:34 PM

My brother is very similar to your friend! He owns and still plays his copy of FF7, even though he literally doesn't own other RPGs and plays Diablo III or Black Ops most of his days.

It is indeed a very powerful game that many, MANY people consider one of the greatest EVER. It seems obvious that a remake is more wanted than a broken MMO and a sequel to a fun "Final-Fantasy-in-name-but-not-in-gameplay" game.

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Phoenix
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 12:40:39 AM

Well, I honestly think FF7 has already been surpassed by FF8, FF9, and FF10. Now, I know most of u prolly dont think this way, and that nothing could ever be better then 7, but it has already been done =P. All 3 of those games, and a great many more, all have a better story, better graphics, better gameplay, and better characters.

Dont get me wrong, I think FF7 is a good game, and what it did for the RPG genre in NA was damn near epic, but it still remains a flawed game in the end, and in all honestly shouldnt get all the mad rabid fanboys it does.


On a side note, I would wish SE would get around to a remake, as I've lost all hope with the company to put out a decent new title, it seems all they can do right these days is to remake something, or just simply re-release a game. Ooooooooooo how I miss the Square-Soft days.........

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 1:33:12 AM

FFVIII is terrible. Squall is the biggest whiny pu*** EVER in the history of gaming.

FFIX is charming and very oldschool but every aspect of it pales in comparison to VII.

There is a reason VII get's such a following, it's that amazing.

IMO FFVII has the greatest soundtrack, the most interesting characters, MATERIA!!!!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 10:11:57 AM

FFVIII is far from "terrible." The Squall and Rinoa dichotomy is one of the BEST in gaming.

I wasn't a big fan of the Junction system replacing armor, but it was an interesting mechanic all the same.

The game was pure epicness.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 12:34:18 PM

I don't think Squall whined much at all. FF took a great step by allowing us into the hero's thought process, so we were reading his stream of consciousness a lot. Having troubled and negative thoughts isn't quite the same as whining like Hope does.

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Phoenix
Thursday, June 28, 2012 @ 12:05:09 AM

FF8 is my Fav of the series, loved the characters, it had a good story, great graphics for its time, and fun gameplay.

The Junction system did take a while to get use to, and then once you did it was kinda OP, but it was still a fun system to play with, far better then materia, imo.

Again, I dont think FF7 is BAD, but it isnt as good as most believe, and the fact that it was many of fan's first RPG experience doesnt help either I'm sure.

FFIX was a really good game aswell, again it has a nice cast of characters, amazing graphics, even better than FF8, very fun gameplay, and a good story to top it off.... infact I always found FF9's story to be similar to FF7s. It felt like an old school RPG, and I always find myself really enjoying 9 when I play threw it.

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JaredRocks
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:54:00 PM
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Quality: What a nice choice of words. He knows that the majority (or close) of FF fans believe VII is the best in the series. Any new Final Fantasy game being made would never top VII in quality as far as most fans are concerned, therefore leaving Wada with all the freedom of never making a remake but sprinkling us with false hope.

Sales: FFVII has sold something like 10 million units? They came close with XIII, but I think fans are no longer trusting of the FF name. Personally, I won't be preordering XV. It pains me to say it. Unless gameplay trailers can show me a true FF experience, I'll wait.

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Underdog15
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:56:05 PM

I still haven't touched FFXIII-2. I'm waiting for it to dip below 19.99

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JaredRocks
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 10:59:09 PM

I'm with you on that one. Still waiting...

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 11:09:44 PM

I bought the collectors edition on Day1.



I'm an idiot :) I still haven't finished it and just thinking about finishing it seems like a chore to me.

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cLoudou
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 11:36:00 PM

I've actually seen it below $15 but I just can't bring myself to purchase it.

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shadowscorpio
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 12:05:40 AM

Same here. I think I saw a temporary price cut at Target for 29.99. Even if I bought all DLC for ff13-2, It would come up cheaper than $60 at that reduced priced. For some reason I still couldn't justify a purchase.

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Fane1024
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 5:51:09 AM

I'm waiting for the compilation package with FFXIII, FFXIII-2, FFXIII-3, FFXIII-4, and FFXIII-5, so I'll actually get the ending.

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Excelsior1
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 11:02:22 PM
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Wada sure the hell isn't going to greenlight it. That is almost certain.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 11:03:42 PM
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There's a free outfit for Serah on the network, gotta not-so-microtransact for everything else though.

Buy a bikini for the boobless? Might be a different story if it were Tifa ;)

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 11:10:17 PM

Serah is my type of girl. Looks like a kid but I might not get arrested!

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cLoudou
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 11:38:29 PM

Now hold on if anyone's your type I thought it would be Hope. Wait then you'll definitely get arrested.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 11:46:40 PM

You make a staggeringly good point LV. And Lightning's out of town.

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main_event05
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 7:26:51 PM

Rikku's still the only one I dream about.

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JaredRocks
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 11:13:21 PM
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I think they will remake FFVII in HD. On the Vita. Forcing millions to buy it (myself included) to play it. Too many people already own PS3s.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 11:15:31 PM

Nope. If/when they remake FFVII it will not be designed around a portable gaming system.

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JaredRocks
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 11:25:59 PM

Their other classic games (1-5 I think) were remade with improved graphics onto portable systems, weren't they? I imagine it as a possibility especially given the real power of the Vita.

If it was for a console, I think it would be released on PS4. In a couple years the next generation of consoles will be here. I don't think they would want to use their fail-safe sales rocket too early.

I just realized I'm thinking about it from a console sales point of view. Releasing it on PS3 would result in more game sales, but if it was confirmed on PS4 at launch, I would unload in pants and die.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 11:32:53 PM

All the FF games that have been released on portable consoles have had a minor facelift, not a true HD remake. Even the FFX port for the Vita is not a true remake since it's just a facelift.

There is NO WAY SE would remake FFVII as just a minor facelift, no matter how incompetent they are.

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 11:19:23 PM
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Just more proof of Wada a clueless POS SE's boss is.

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Hynad
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 11:19:35 PM
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It's not impossible...

Sure, for the heavily nostalgic guys around, it is impossible. But a new Final Fantasy game can still create an impact similar to the one FF VII made back in 1997. With new players, or those that don't have their memories of the series tied to the FF VII era or games, it is possible.

Now, I grew up with Final Fantasy, playing them in order of their US release from the very first game. And my favourite is still VI. So news that a FF VII remake isn't around the corner makes me hopeful that VI isn't out of the question. :D

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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 1:28:35 AM

All they need is to bring back three elements that made FF VII so successful...

1. turn-based combat

2. memorable characters with personality and history

3. a steampunk industrial dark setting within a bright and colourful fantasy world


The issues in FF VII could easily have been tied to reality, what with Avalanche being the Greenpeace of the FF universe. I'd love to see a Final Fantasy entry top THAT!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 11:49:49 PM
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I think they don't want to start a precedent (or make money). If SE did a good job on FFVII, since the new stuff isn't so good for fans then we would all demand an FFVIII remake and they would get mired in the wonderful past that they despise so much.

We say "This is Final Fantasy," and they go "Meh, nah, THIS is Final Fantasy."

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Rogueagent01
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 11:55:41 PM

Yeah god forbid they make a true fortune off of giving VII the HD treatment and use that money to finance a team to give the HD treatment to VI, VIII, & IX. What would they be thinking making the fans happy. While still having more then enough money to continue current projects.

It really feels like Wada wants to get the company to such a low point so he can sell it to a friend cheap and then have said friend make all these throwbacks. I don't know anymore the guy is freaking coo-coo for coco puffs.

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Rogueagent01
Tuesday, June 26, 2012 @ 11:50:10 PM
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I wish Wada would just realize he has failed in all manners of speaking and would just go commit seppuku, so that SE could at least save face and move on. But unfortunately he has no honor and would rather run the company into the ground than admit his failures.

I feel so bad for the employees having to put up with such ignorance.

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eLLeJuss
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 12:35:29 AM
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Dont worry guys its coming. I got this.

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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 1:22:22 AM
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Seriously?!?!? We'll never get that remake at this point!!!

The art direction, character design and story are all there!! If they apply all that to their new engine, the Luminous Studio engine, they would release one of the biggest selling Final Fantasy's on a next-gen platform!!!

Imagine, Clous, Barret, Tifa, Aerith and Sephiroth all in mouth-watering HD running on the PS4!!!

I would seriously buy it for $150 on launch day with the PS4 if that dream were to come true.

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Vivi_Gamer
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 2:05:30 AM
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How is this still going on....

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Vivi_Gamer
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 2:53:14 AM
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... No I will expand upon it. Look, I love Final Fantasy VII, I regard it as my favourite game of all time (Along with VIII ,IX & X.) But I still see no need for a remake. The PS1 version still plays perfectly. I am still satisfied with the PS1 experience that I see no need for a remake.

Yes, the FF games of the PS1 were of a higher standard than today, I fully agree. But I still want a new Final Fantasy instead of a remake. One of the joys of Final Fantasy is the sense of progression, that's what distinguishes the series over games like Dragon Quest which have stayed the same for years (Not that there's anything wrong with that, I am currently enjoying Dragon Quest IX!)

If anything, I which they would stop expanding on each numeral title. I really felt X-2 did nothing for X's story, the only notable thing about X-2 is the ending, the rest of the game felt like it sidetracked. Then XIII-2, I enjoyed it, but it was very convoluted with the whole time travel which made the original seem out of place.

Then there is the VII series, yes VII fan's after 10 years it is a series. You got a prequel which is fantastic BTW. You got a top of the range CGI movie sequel equally as good and a chance to see the world in HD glory. Then you had Dirge of Cerberus... Okay that was a mess, but is proof on what can happen when a series is expanded. What's worse is after DoC VII is official is not concluded so there needs to be another game to rap this mess up now. VII has had so much attention, how can fans really ask for much more other than that?

As for a remake... I just don't think it would live up to the expectations, yes I'd buy it. But it just wouldn't be satisfying. Have you played the Metal Gear Solid remake on the gamecube? While it takes the fantastic gameplay elements of MGS2 the atmosphere from the original vanished and the game felt really flat. I think adding more realism to FFVII would do that. So I personally don't think it should be made.

I just want a new Final Fantasy, for the series to go on and give me something new rather than replicate something I love and ruin it.

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Mog
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 3:21:41 AM
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"the series would be done for"

the series is already done for.

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___________
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 5:56:12 AM
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GOOD!
NOW FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CAN WE PLEASE GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
drives me bonkers almost every day i turn my PC on to read a article saying a little birdy told me a FFVII remake is coming.
its NEVER going to happen, so for the love of god can we please get that through our thick skulls!?

move onto dreaming about something else, like half life 3 or wardevil.
;)

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Nas Is Like
Thursday, June 28, 2012 @ 12:12:34 AM

Here's a hint that will prove helpful to all of us and yourself as well.

Don't turn on your PC anymore.

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ethird1
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 7:49:49 AM
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I'm beginning to get a little peturbed with the SquareEnix hierarchy, just a little.

There are several reason why they don't want to make this game.

One is that FF 7's main character is a male. The last few FF's it has been a female lead character or at least an implied female character lead, like FF 10. There are tons of potential gaming girls out there who would buy FF, as Square thinks more males, especially american males, are going to play FPS's. I didn't name the most famous fps here as to not rile the natives.

Another reason SquareEnix HATES Sakaguchi for whatever reason(jealousy or rivalry perhaps?) and doesn't want anything to do with his former projects. They have everything to lose if they fail big time with a remake or part two of FF 7. It is exactly why they made a movie instead of another game. They thought that would end the series forever.

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Cloud X Blue
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 10:39:08 AM
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Put out versus xiii already then....

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Ludakriss
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 2:43:40 PM
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Coool. Something we knew about a year ago?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 2:58:11 PM

now we know again

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Clamedeus
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 4:32:42 PM
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...Wada is he thinking? I don't get SE anymore.

>.<

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Akuma07
Wednesday, June 27, 2012 @ 5:43:35 PM
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Considering how long it is taking them to produce FFvsXIII. I am not sure I would want them too anymore.

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Amnesiac
Thursday, June 28, 2012 @ 10:20:10 AM
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Squaresoft is gone, been gone for a long time. All that is left is Enix and their bad decision making.

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