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DICE: Amazing Gamers Is More Important Than Being #1

We've always thought the guys at DICE have had their heads screwed on straight.

During a recent Edge interview with DICE general manager Karl Magnus Troedsson, we learn that when it comes to creating their games, they really push themselves. And why, because when it comes to first-person shooters, the fans have crazy high expectations. Said Troedsson:

"If they don't see some kind of new, if not revolutionary then at least evolutionary, step of rendering in every game they will start to lose interest. And I think that is what's happening. Because a lot of franchises out there don't take this seriously; to actually make sure that we don't just challenge ourselves on the gameplay aspect, or perhaps some other area like distribution method, but also how it [feels], how it looks and how it sounds.

DICE has a strong history, for good and for bad, of doing this. We constantly bash ourselves and say, 'We could have done that better'. It might just be a rendering feature but in the end it adds up to the complete experience of what we're doing."

As for the future of the genre, Troedsson believes more innovation is required, and the end result is a consumer that is appreciative of the product. It's not necessarily about better writing or creating emotional narratives and memorable characters, it's more about an extremely high level of technical accomplishment and delivering the very best product possible. Finished Troedsson:

"I think it's our responsibility as game developers to always push ourselves when it comes to the experience of games. To always make sure that when we put games in the hands of consumers that we are proud of what we've done.

I'm not saying we're going to build an FPS that will make you cry, or anything like that [laughs]. But we want people to be amazed when they look at our games. And I think this is more important than becoming number one in whatever way you look at it - though naturally part of that comes from a very high level of competitiveness here within DICE. We want to make the best game that we can, and we want that game to be the best one on the market. If gamers think that, then we've done our job. We're not there yet, but we're working on it."

He also said they won't develop a shooter that makes us cry...but we still say someone should try.

Tags: dice, fps, first person shooter, battlefield, gaming industry

7/5/2012 8:30:35 PM John Shepard

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Comments (22 posts)

WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, July 05, 2012 @ 9:44:32 PM
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Amazing gamers is very important :)

But I can't possibly see how it could hurt the FPS genre to create some characters that you connect with and strengthen the story instead of just being these soulless grunts whose boots you jump into.

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Temjin001
Thursday, July 05, 2012 @ 10:04:10 PM

didn't feel it deep when Sev got the shaft? (was it sev? shouldve been Rico, but whatever)

actually, I think there's been some effort done with BLOPS and BF3. Like there's some symblance of effort in making them more real.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, July 05, 2012 @ 10:12:11 PM

No because I still had no reason to feel connected to the man. I'll give a rare props to CoD though for using the flashback scene to humanize Price for instance.

I suppose the fans don't care but I'd like to know who these people are outside the military, like when Tom Hanks character in Saving Private Ryan admitted he was just a school teacher in the real world.

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trinichinese
Thursday, July 05, 2012 @ 9:50:48 PM
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dice u are already there but more power to u to keep on trying on makeing a game better and better ,and i cant wate to see what u guys have in store for us with battlefield badcompany 3 as far as campain story and multiplayer . on a side note the only thing i my self had a problem with is some cosmetic stuff as far as weapon design in battlefield 3 , some of your weapon designs with takeing off the iron sites when u put on a scope / red dot some of the weapons looked just silly , pretty much thats it other than that its a complete exprence

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BikerSaint
Thursday, July 05, 2012 @ 10:00:20 PM
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Hey Dice,

I actually want an emotional gut-wrenching war story that will make me cry.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, July 05, 2012 @ 10:13:59 PM

Hell yeah, war is a multi-faceted topic. Where's the FPS version of Apocalypse Now?

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Rogueagent01
Friday, July 06, 2012 @ 3:40:01 AM

You're far from the only one. This is one genre that could take emotion to a whole new level if they really tried. War is everything you can imagine rolled up into one long nasty experience and looking at the faces of some soldiers tells you more then words ever could. Someone needs to take the genre to its logical turning point and give it a real story.

I would love to take the final shot in a campaign and drop my controller thinking what did I just do! I mean seriously did Dice or any of the CoD developers play MGS4? You can have a strong story that takes people through a emotional roller coaster and still be successful.

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tes37
Thursday, July 05, 2012 @ 10:06:59 PM
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Just tonight I passed someone on the right while driving, and gave them the middle finger, and all of a sudden they decided my speed was the correct speed to be driving. They followed me closely, but there's nothing like being a leader in the industry and I stayed ahead. My point is being number 1 is important, ... to some people.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, July 05, 2012 @ 10:36:05 PM

I've done that. And if they're a big enough prick to ride my bumper after going 20 mph, somebody's gonna get hurt in a parking lot somewhere.

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tes37
Thursday, July 05, 2012 @ 10:44:48 PM

My middle finger was just a heartfelt expression and they obviously didn't appreciate it. You can't please everyone.

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Jawknee
Friday, July 06, 2012 @ 12:41:51 AM

I usually just waive and smile. :) They never expect it and it always seems to piss them off more than just giving them the finger.

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Underdog15
Friday, July 06, 2012 @ 8:47:30 AM

Haha, my friend and I had that experience a couple weeks ago while I was driving. A guy wasn't please with US, though. Still haven't figured out what I did wrong, but I'm sure I cut him off or something like that.

Anyways, we were going to a baseball game, and he had just passed us on the shoulder, flipping us off. Anyways, up ahead, we saw him pull into the same subdivision we were headed to. In fact, his house was right next to the baseball field. He backed into his driveway, and I drove slowly past him. He watched us, a bit nervously actually, while sitting in his car. We agreed to just drive by slowly sticking our tongues out at him. He just sort of sat there, watched us slowly roll past (and I really mean slowly) with our tongues stuck out at him the whole time. No reaction from him or anything. Just nervous staring. lol

Anyways, at our next practice, we drove by and noticed his house was for sale. Totally circumstantial, of course, but we've been joking ever since about how we scared him out of town.

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Clamedeus
Friday, July 06, 2012 @ 1:48:21 PM

LOL Underdog, that's the funniest thing I have ever heard. Haha.

That made my day.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, July 05, 2012 @ 10:14:46 PM
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Dice, pick up Six Days in Fallujah. Make it happen.

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tes37
Thursday, July 05, 2012 @ 10:17:48 PM

I would love to play that game.

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BikerSaint
Thursday, July 05, 2012 @ 10:28:19 PM

Agreed!
I know it will never happen, but.......
I'd love to see Cage's Quantic dream pick up "6 Days" & give itsome real emotional justice that it deserves.

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Jawknee
Friday, July 06, 2012 @ 12:40:30 AM
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Why people prefer the generic CoD over Battlefield, I will never understand.

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ulsterscot
Friday, July 06, 2012 @ 4:24:15 AM

Fan run servers have destroyed the BF3 experience for me

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Underdog15
Friday, July 06, 2012 @ 9:19:26 AM

Player hosted games in the absence of servers have destroyed CoD for me.

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Qubex
Friday, July 06, 2012 @ 10:50:45 PM

Yep, can't get enough of Battlefield when I have time to play it!

Q!

"play.experience.enjoy"

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ulsterscot
Friday, July 06, 2012 @ 3:42:35 AM
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characters you connect with?

I had to get counselling after Soap MacTavish died - still not over it.

I made that up

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___________
Friday, July 06, 2012 @ 4:46:29 AM
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gotta love this guy!
always says the right things, and the exact opposite to what there actually doing!
fans are number 1 which is why fans have been screaming for DICE run servers to come back and there still impossible to find!
fans are pissed that there constantly doing double XP events but only for paying premium members.
yup.
fans are totally number 1 for DICE, which is exactly why they keep giving us the finger!

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